June 20, 2025 • 15 mins
Sports Editor of the Grand Forks Herald Tom Miller, talks to Tim and Paul about the details that often get overlooked in the new era of collegiate sports, due to the new parameters of the House Settlement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven thirty seven on Friday morning. Let's welcome to the program.
Sports editor of the Grand Fork Herald, mister Tom Miller.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Morning Tom, Good morning, guys.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Good morning Tom.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I just noticed did you ever go down to Omaha
with the Legion team?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, yeah, I went. I went down there with the
Royals when I was in high school. That was always
really fun. I mean, you know, I remember being able
to go watch Rice play Stanford. I think it was
the College World Series where Houston Street was a big
deal for Texas and Donald Clinton was was big for
Rice and cal State Bullerton was big at the time.
(00:43):
I don't know if they still are in baseball, but
that was that was a lot of fun to be
exposed to high end college baseball at that time. That's one.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
The other night, if you saw the LSU Arkansas game
in the final left field oh boy, well, actually I
go back to the play prior to that, where a
sharply hit ball is short, he takes a forced play
at third, you have a chance at a double play
to end the game like that to me is like.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'm gonna say a little bit, Paul. Then I don't
think it was that sharply hit and it was easy
double plays.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Put it that way, anyway, I thought it was sharply hit.
I I mean, you know that to me? Okay, Well, anyway,
I know I know Colin Hennessy would have made the play.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
There's no doubt I would have sailed that thing into
the right field.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
That's exactly right. So so there anyway, Hey, so Tom,
I was just reading some more here, you know, And
and Tim's gonna snooze here on this one. We talked
to Bill Shaves this week on our programs as they
were waiting for the more facts to come. I think
they got some of them, but they're more getting a
(02:05):
few more to Officially, they're still leaning opt in. From
my feelings in our discussions with athletic director Bill Chaves,
I think South Dakota has gone one further there. Their
ads basically said, yes, we're we're going to opt in
for the roster piece they I was just reading here
though that Montana. Uh, their ad has gone opposite. Ken
(02:28):
Haslam from over in the Big Sky now for the
Griss says they're still going to opt out because we
have soccer and softball that are both potentially going to
have rosters well above the roster limit from the House
settlement and that's causing the issue. So they're going to
be on an opt out side over at Montana. And
again you indeed, at least at last check that you
(02:50):
guys wrote about, I think Bill's still in that framework
leaning that direction, as did The university will look that
way if they continue to see this stuff like South
Dakota has so interesting where every school is getting it.
I think another ad said there's like been thirty nine
sports programs that have been cut already. They expect that
(03:11):
number to go up across the country due to this,
and so it's basically it's happening as we kind of
been foretelling in our visits here in recent weeks.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, you know, we've been saying for a long time
Olympic sports watch out, and we're already seeing some of
that take place. You know, like you said, I've seen
that Montana State's gonna opt in and Montana's going to
opt out, but almost indicated that they were just interested
in making sure their ducks were in a row too
before they opted in. Be curious to hear some more
(03:49):
about who elects to opt in and opt out. You know,
I think essentially it'll be a lot of the peer
schools of University North Kota opt in, which will then
you know, opting in and opting out is only, you know,
extremely surface level. Like we've said for a long time.
(04:10):
You know, there's revenue sharing of six bucks and there's
revenue sharing of twenty million, and where you land in
between is the real story, not whether you opt in
or opt out. I think that's kind of been covered
at such a surface level around the country that it's
frustrating because that's that's that's only the beginning of the
conversation really, But but I think in the end, you know,
(04:34):
if Montana State opts in, let's say, and if everybody's
at sixty three football scholarships, if they decide that they
want to get to eighty, that's where the next arms
race is at. Everybody's going to chase that because North
Kota STATEIA are going to be left behind, and then
the University North Code is going to look around and say, well,
do we want to let North Kota State leaves behind?
(04:55):
And then so who pushes towards one oh five? How
high is anybody willing to go? Will any league start
tapping that? I think that's the next very interesting conversation
that'll take place here.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And so it's the old domino effect, right, So what
you just said there, if the level is one oh
five for football and a Montana state decides to push
or whoever is the first one maybe to say, well,
let's see if we can push this domino because we
have room. But let's not forget that the title nine
piece does not go away, and that can really affect
(05:30):
some other things across campus and across your athletic department,
with your other sports, with your title nine numbers, and
that's where the game within the game that gets kind
of lost in this whole roster piece that. Yet, yes,
you could push the envelope and conferences could squash that
and say no, we're gonna stay at sixty three, or
(05:51):
maybe they won't do anything. And if you do, maybe
you've got room, but maybe the school down the road doesn't.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah. The University seltic I Own, an athletic director, was
interviewed by a website called Football Scoop and he was
talking about how, according to their math, they were thinking
that I think he said fifty two athletes would have
been cut if they would have decided to opt in
before the grandfathering effect. But I also think that that
(06:18):
the grandfathering of of roster spots has been covered in
an odd way to me, because it's almost like people
are viewing it like those roster spots are saved and
all is all is okay, and in reality there's just
a cant kick down the road, and that road isn't
that far, you know, if it's I can't remember if
(06:40):
it's three, four or five years, but you're still going
to have to reach the House settlement roster limits eventually.
So yes, you might save yourself that initial fifty man
cut that you were worried about, but it's coming eventually,
and so it's a it's a tough spot for for
(07:01):
people to be in if you're if you're a tennis player,
if you're a track and field athlete, it's going to
be a lot of lost opportunities for the sake of
big time college football.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, that that's the other Yeah, you just mentioned it,
so yes, you're right. I did see that that the
South Dakota A D made mentioned that had they opted
in under when it was going to kind of our
March date, the way they were thinking the settlement was
framing it. Uh, yeah, it would have been fifty two
athletes that would have lost a spot at that time
had they opted in under that framework. And but what
(07:34):
people don't understand sometimes a lot of those athletes are
actually paying tuition and so so it's it's those things get.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Lost in you. I mean, yeah, that's rollment like, yeah,
fifty people, you and d would spend a lot of
money to go attract fifty kids to come pay correct.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, And that's that's the thing that I think also
gets lost errors that if you know, when it gets
down to it, you said kicking the can down the road,
that's exactly what it ends up being. And they're gonna
have to address those things. It may not be this year,
it might be in three years, it might be in
four years, but it's getting addressed in a lot of
schools are gonna have to deal with it, from the
(08:11):
South Dakotas of the world to even some big time schools.
So there we go. There's our host settlement talk. Tim
can wake up again.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Thanks for humoring us, Tim, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Thanks Tim, Yeah, But anyway, but it's very real and
it's the world that we're living in currently. So but anyway,
all right, Tim, you you can dive in what what's
big on your hot No.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I talked about you talked about the students coming in,
paying tuition and stuff. That was the big part of
Remember Tom when baseball was eliminated here, And.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It still kind of bothers me that when baseball got
cut and they had what I can't recall exactly, let's
guess that they had a four man roster and you've
got four scholarships, you got thirty six paying customers, and
there there wasn't a lot of overhead. You know, we're
(09:10):
talking about a couple of coaches. Craft field had long
been built, turf put down in place. Yeah, you got
rid of a lot of paying customers, only because, to
be honest, athletics needed to bleed because other areas of
the university were seeing cuts and athletics needed to make
their cuts. And the way that the budget was constructed,
(09:33):
it didn't really count those baseball players as paying customers
is helpful to the bottom line of the university as
a whole. And I think that was a big mistake,
and that's it's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, and it's and it's a it's those types of
questions are going to happen elsewhere, and they already are
currently with this recent host settlement, and and the question
is how do you how do if they navigate? And
a lot of it is as you mentioned, Olympic sports
are gonna be taking the brunt of it, you know,
at various institutions depending on their setups and current setups here,
(10:12):
not only this year but in the years ahead. So
will be interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's it's a new it's a whole new world. As
we say in the business, it's fair time again, Tom,
We've got racing. We're racing. There was a great story
that I was reading I haven't had a chance to finish.
I got disrupted. It was about how Austin Pierre stepped
into a vehicle for a guy that's got cancer and
uh and and one with that vehicle with the in
(10:37):
the sprint car I believe. And it was a really
good story anyway, So I can't wait to finish it.
But yeah, that that's one. That's a great story, great
read in the Herald if you have a chance to
get to it. I can't wait to get back to
it here.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So yeah, Brash Lawson wrote about Shane Romling battling cancer
and his car he never uh never gotten a victory
lane and yeah, a friend of his race as equipment
and one last Friday, and so Brad wrote about that
a little bit. And like you mentioned now, it's Fair weekend,
which makes it a usually a kind of a unique,
(11:11):
unique classes and unique setup at the race track. Not
not your usual meter of events out there.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Just f y, I, Tom, You've got two little guys.
They seem about the right age to want, you know,
they to get them to the fair, do some things
and for you to spend some money on them.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
At the fair.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, Tim, Tim knows.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I won't say that.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I live. I live too close. I'm gonna take alternative
routes to drive my kids around so they don't see
any fairris wheels or anything.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
You know, do you So?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
In the so, I think we've had the have we
had like elite camp and and different things like that
for football and and different things. What are what are
the final thing I'll ask you today in what's going
to be the thing in the lead up here in
the days ahead before we open up camp for a
brand new season of U and D E football under
(12:09):
the direction of new head coach Eric Schmid, What's what's
going to happen in the countdown here?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, that's a good question. You know, yesterday they had
one of the elite camps where, you know, I think
it was like lineman in the morning, skill players in
the afternoon, and you're starting to see a few more
offers kind of trickle. I just wrote about a kicker
out of Brainerd who interesting fun kid to chat with,
that was kind of a fun conversation. He he committed
(12:38):
to North Dkota to become the fourteenth member of the
twenty twenty six recruiting class. You know, the twenty five
man recruiting classes that we've kind of become accustomed to
in recent years. You know, I wonder if that number
is a little bit lower these days than it used
to be, just with with the massive assumption of all
(12:58):
the movement that takes place in the train for portal,
perhaps you don't get up to twenty five. I'm not sure,
but you know, I do know that they're still kicking
around some offers and it's kind of wild that we're
I mean, we're running out of time here between July
first is right around the corner. In August first is
(13:18):
typically when fall camp starts, you know, taking off, so
only got about a month left here of the off season.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, I mean it will be here before we know it.
We know the guys are working out getting stronger.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I've talked to Tag and Feffer from Alexandria a little
bit this year. He says he's loving his opportunities on
defense and how his role may look different than when
he arrived here, just kind of with that new defensive look.
But I always told I said to him, I said,
you know, I asked him all workouts were going, but
I said, you know, the one thing I really like
from you is when you're healthy, you're one of our
(13:52):
best coverage guys. You're always in making tackles on kickoff coverage.
He's like, well, he's like, I like it when we're
kicking off that means we're So that's good.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
He's made some strides in the program. That was a
very raw player out of out of nearby Alexandria there
and he's certainly developed in his time. And that's kind
of player you need to you need. You need to
have af chefs level like North Dakota. You gotta take
kids that still need to put in the work.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
It's a yeah, no doubt about it. Hey, Tom, thanks
for running into us and making some time. I know
you were away and you still drop dropped in with
us last week, so appreciate it. Have a great weekend ahead,
and then we'll hopefully touch base before we get into
the holiday week at that time, because I know we
won't be here on the fourth of July, but next
week we will be look forward to our visit then
(14:44):
next week.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay, sounds good. Good to chat with you guys as always.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
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Seven thirty seven on Friday morning. Let's welcome to the program.
Sports editor of the Grand Fork Herald, mister Tom Miller.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Morning Tom, Good morning, guys.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Good morning Tom.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I just noticed did you ever go down to Omaha
with the Legion team?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, yeah, I went. I went down there with the
Royals when I was in high school. That was always
really fun. I mean, you know, I remember being able
to go watch Rice play Stanford. I think it was
the College World Series where Houston Street was a big
deal for Texas and Donald Clinton was was big for
Rice and cal State Bullerton was big at the time.
(00:43):
I don't know if they still are in baseball, but
that was that was a lot of fun to be
exposed to high end college baseball at that time. That's one.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
The other night, if you saw the LSU Arkansas game
in the final left field oh boy, well, actually I
go back to the play prior to that, where a
sharply hit ball is short, he takes a forced play
at third, you have a chance at a double play
to end the game like that to me is like.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'm gonna say a little bit, Paul. Then I don't
think it was that sharply hit and it was easy
double plays.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Put it that way, anyway, I thought it was sharply hit.
I I mean, you know that to me? Okay, Well, anyway,
I know I know Colin Hennessy would have made the play.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
There's no doubt I would have sailed that thing into
the right field.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
That's exactly right. So so there anyway, Hey, so Tom,
I was just reading some more here, you know, And
and Tim's gonna snooze here on this one. We talked
to Bill Shaves this week on our programs as they
were waiting for the more facts to come. I think
they got some of them, but they're more getting a
(02:05):
few more to Officially, they're still leaning opt in. From
my feelings in our discussions with athletic director Bill Chaves,
I think South Dakota has gone one further there. Their
ads basically said, yes, we're we're going to opt in
for the roster piece they I was just reading here
though that Montana. Uh, their ad has gone opposite. Ken
(02:28):
Haslam from over in the Big Sky now for the
Griss says they're still going to opt out because we
have soccer and softball that are both potentially going to
have rosters well above the roster limit from the House
settlement and that's causing the issue. So they're going to
be on an opt out side over at Montana. And
again you indeed, at least at last check that you
(02:50):
guys wrote about, I think Bill's still in that framework
leaning that direction, as did The university will look that
way if they continue to see this stuff like South
Dakota has so interesting where every school is getting it.
I think another ad said there's like been thirty nine
sports programs that have been cut already. They expect that
(03:11):
number to go up across the country due to this,
and so it's basically it's happening as we kind of
been foretelling in our visits here in recent weeks.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, you know, we've been saying for a long time
Olympic sports watch out, and we're already seeing some of
that take place. You know, like you said, I've seen
that Montana State's gonna opt in and Montana's going to
opt out, but almost indicated that they were just interested
in making sure their ducks were in a row too
before they opted in. Be curious to hear some more
(03:49):
about who elects to opt in and opt out. You know,
I think essentially it'll be a lot of the peer
schools of University North Kota opt in, which will then
you know, opting in and opting out is only, you know,
extremely surface level. Like we've said for a long time.
(04:10):
You know, there's revenue sharing of six bucks and there's
revenue sharing of twenty million, and where you land in
between is the real story, not whether you opt in
or opt out. I think that's kind of been covered
at such a surface level around the country that it's
frustrating because that's that's that's only the beginning of the
conversation really, But but I think in the end, you know,
(04:34):
if Montana State opts in, let's say, and if everybody's
at sixty three football scholarships, if they decide that they
want to get to eighty, that's where the next arms
race is at. Everybody's going to chase that because North
Kota STATEIA are going to be left behind, and then
the University North Code is going to look around and say, well,
do we want to let North Kota State leaves behind?
(04:55):
And then so who pushes towards one oh five? How
high is anybody willing to go? Will any league start
tapping that? I think that's the next very interesting conversation
that'll take place here.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And so it's the old domino effect, right, So what
you just said there, if the level is one oh
five for football and a Montana state decides to push
or whoever is the first one maybe to say, well,
let's see if we can push this domino because we
have room. But let's not forget that the title nine
piece does not go away, and that can really affect
(05:30):
some other things across campus and across your athletic department,
with your other sports, with your title nine numbers, and
that's where the game within the game that gets kind
of lost in this whole roster piece that. Yet, yes,
you could push the envelope and conferences could squash that
and say no, we're gonna stay at sixty three, or
(05:51):
maybe they won't do anything. And if you do, maybe
you've got room, but maybe the school down the road doesn't.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah. The University seltic I Own, an athletic director, was
interviewed by a website called Football Scoop and he was
talking about how, according to their math, they were thinking
that I think he said fifty two athletes would have
been cut if they would have decided to opt in
before the grandfathering effect. But I also think that that
(06:18):
the grandfathering of of roster spots has been covered in
an odd way to me, because it's almost like people
are viewing it like those roster spots are saved and
all is all is okay, and in reality there's just
a cant kick down the road, and that road isn't
that far, you know, if it's I can't remember if
(06:40):
it's three, four or five years, but you're still going
to have to reach the House settlement roster limits eventually.
So yes, you might save yourself that initial fifty man
cut that you were worried about, but it's coming eventually,
and so it's a it's a tough spot for for
(07:01):
people to be in if you're if you're a tennis player,
if you're a track and field athlete, it's going to
be a lot of lost opportunities for the sake of
big time college football.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, that that's the other Yeah, you just mentioned it,
so yes, you're right. I did see that that the
South Dakota A D made mentioned that had they opted
in under when it was going to kind of our
March date, the way they were thinking the settlement was
framing it. Uh, yeah, it would have been fifty two
athletes that would have lost a spot at that time
had they opted in under that framework. And but what
(07:34):
people don't understand sometimes a lot of those athletes are
actually paying tuition and so so it's it's those things get.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Lost in you. I mean, yeah, that's rollment like, yeah,
fifty people, you and d would spend a lot of
money to go attract fifty kids to come pay correct.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, And that's that's the thing that I think also
gets lost errors that if you know, when it gets
down to it, you said kicking the can down the road,
that's exactly what it ends up being. And they're gonna
have to address those things. It may not be this year,
it might be in three years, it might be in
four years, but it's getting addressed in a lot of
schools are gonna have to deal with it, from the
(08:11):
South Dakotas of the world to even some big time schools.
So there we go. There's our host settlement talk. Tim
can wake up again.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Thanks for humoring us, Tim, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Thanks Tim, Yeah, But anyway, but it's very real and
it's the world that we're living in currently. So but anyway,
all right, Tim, you you can dive in what what's
big on your hot No.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I talked about you talked about the students coming in,
paying tuition and stuff. That was the big part of
Remember Tom when baseball was eliminated here, And.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It still kind of bothers me that when baseball got
cut and they had what I can't recall exactly, let's
guess that they had a four man roster and you've
got four scholarships, you got thirty six paying customers, and
there there wasn't a lot of overhead. You know, we're
(09:10):
talking about a couple of coaches. Craft field had long
been built, turf put down in place. Yeah, you got
rid of a lot of paying customers, only because, to
be honest, athletics needed to bleed because other areas of
the university were seeing cuts and athletics needed to make
their cuts. And the way that the budget was constructed,
(09:33):
it didn't really count those baseball players as paying customers
is helpful to the bottom line of the university as
a whole. And I think that was a big mistake,
and that's it's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, and it's and it's a it's those types of
questions are going to happen elsewhere, and they already are
currently with this recent host settlement, and and the question
is how do you how do if they navigate? And
a lot of it is as you mentioned, Olympic sports
are gonna be taking the brunt of it, you know,
at various institutions depending on their setups and current setups here,
(10:12):
not only this year but in the years ahead. So
will be interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's it's a new it's a whole new world. As
we say in the business, it's fair time again, Tom,
We've got racing. We're racing. There was a great story
that I was reading I haven't had a chance to finish.
I got disrupted. It was about how Austin Pierre stepped
into a vehicle for a guy that's got cancer and
uh and and one with that vehicle with the in
(10:37):
the sprint car I believe. And it was a really
good story anyway, So I can't wait to finish it.
But yeah, that that's one. That's a great story, great
read in the Herald if you have a chance to
get to it. I can't wait to get back to
it here.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So yeah, Brash Lawson wrote about Shane Romling battling cancer
and his car he never uh never gotten a victory
lane and yeah, a friend of his race as equipment
and one last Friday, and so Brad wrote about that
a little bit. And like you mentioned now, it's Fair weekend,
which makes it a usually a kind of a unique,
(11:11):
unique classes and unique setup at the race track. Not
not your usual meter of events out there.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Just f y, I, Tom, You've got two little guys.
They seem about the right age to want, you know,
they to get them to the fair, do some things
and for you to spend some money on them.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
At the fair.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, Tim, Tim knows.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I won't say that.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I live. I live too close. I'm gonna take alternative
routes to drive my kids around so they don't see
any fairris wheels or anything.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
You know, do you So?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
In the so, I think we've had the have we
had like elite camp and and different things like that
for football and and different things. What are what are
the final thing I'll ask you today in what's going
to be the thing in the lead up here in
the days ahead before we open up camp for a
brand new season of U and D E football under
(12:09):
the direction of new head coach Eric Schmid, What's what's
going to happen in the countdown here?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, that's a good question. You know, yesterday they had
one of the elite camps where, you know, I think
it was like lineman in the morning, skill players in
the afternoon, and you're starting to see a few more
offers kind of trickle. I just wrote about a kicker
out of Brainerd who interesting fun kid to chat with,
that was kind of a fun conversation. He he committed
(12:38):
to North Dkota to become the fourteenth member of the
twenty twenty six recruiting class. You know, the twenty five
man recruiting classes that we've kind of become accustomed to
in recent years. You know, I wonder if that number
is a little bit lower these days than it used
to be, just with with the massive assumption of all
(12:58):
the movement that takes place in the train for portal,
perhaps you don't get up to twenty five. I'm not sure,
but you know, I do know that they're still kicking
around some offers and it's kind of wild that we're
I mean, we're running out of time here between July
first is right around the corner. In August first is
(13:18):
typically when fall camp starts, you know, taking off, so
only got about a month left here of the off season.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, I mean it will be here before we know it.
We know the guys are working out getting stronger.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I've talked to Tag and Feffer from Alexandria a little
bit this year. He says he's loving his opportunities on
defense and how his role may look different than when
he arrived here, just kind of with that new defensive look.
But I always told I said to him, I said,
you know, I asked him all workouts were going, but
I said, you know, the one thing I really like
from you is when you're healthy, you're one of our
(13:52):
best coverage guys. You're always in making tackles on kickoff coverage.
He's like, well, he's like, I like it when we're
kicking off that means we're So that's good.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
He's made some strides in the program. That was a
very raw player out of out of nearby Alexandria there
and he's certainly developed in his time. And that's kind
of player you need to you need. You need to
have af chefs level like North Dakota. You gotta take
kids that still need to put in the work.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
It's a yeah, no doubt about it. Hey, Tom, thanks
for running into us and making some time. I know
you were away and you still drop dropped in with
us last week, so appreciate it. Have a great weekend ahead,
and then we'll hopefully touch base before we get into
the holiday week at that time, because I know we
won't be here on the fourth of July, but next
week we will be look forward to our visit then
(14:44):
next week.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay, sounds good. Good to chat with you guys as always.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
All right, thanks Tom, all right. Tom Miller, a sports
editor of the Grand Forks Herald. Tell you the digital edition,
get the subscription. It's not that bad if you're gonna
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