July 1, 2025 • 14 mins
TheGunWriter.Substack.com, Lee Williams, shared the latest on the case of "Tate" Adamiak who, to the shame of ATF, is sitting in prison.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, let's get right to it. Five past the hour,
second hour, Friday, June twenty seventh, Here on the Morning
Show with Preston Scott, Please to have with us. He
is known as the gun Writer. His work is found
at Thegunwriter dot substack dot com. You can subscribe and
get his columns, investigated pieces sent directly to your email box.
(00:27):
And it's as simple as just going to the website.
And he's Lee Williams. Good morning, Lee, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Good morning? I'm doing well. How are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I am doing great. You and I both are compared
to Patrick Tate Adomiak. Let's catch everybody up who is
Tate and tell us about his life, what he was doing,
what he was involved in before he came into the
crosshairs of the ATF.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Tate was a maybe E six. He was their version
of an MP in military's He had been accepted to
go to seal school as an officer. He had a degree,
has a degree, and he was going to go to
basic bugs as a seal officer. Just getting there is amazing.
(01:17):
In the meantime, he had another life where he had
a website where he sold military surplus. I'm not talking guns.
I'm talking gun parts, and that was thriving. He would
buy junk basically the way I look at it and
sell it. Guys would buy parts for their guns. The
ATF got a tip that he was selling all kinds
(01:37):
of illegal stuff, so they hit his house, nine separate
law enforcement agencies. They didn't find a damn thing illegal,
So they bring in this kid. The first time he
ever testified in court. He made everything illegal illegally. I
took a RPGs that he had bought rocket Republican Aid
(01:58):
launchers that he had bought at some darre in California.
They were do what They had never fired a rocket.
They were made for training. He paid one hundred bucks
for him. They turned those into rockets. He had a
toy submachine gun, a toy you can buy one right
now and haven't sent your home out of Spain. They
made that into a machine gun. I mean, they just
went absolutely crazy. I think at this point in their
(02:21):
career the ATF was tired of looking like buffoons for
trusting their wrong informants, which they did. In this case,
Tait was the prosekers warned him sentenced to thirty years,
but Q and A, I'm sorry, a special agent, a
senior special agent, Daniel Kelly, who was hired by his
(02:43):
defense team, talked about a ten yere So he was
only sentenced to twenty years in prison. He's on his
fourth year right now, out of prison up in New Jersey.
I got to tell you, I've been doing this for
a long time. I've never talked to anybody who has
eaten that much time that did not do anything wrong.
And I tell you, brother, I've gone through everything that
he's done. There's not a crime there.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
You've literally searched out and found everything that was in
the ATF's case and shown that all of those items
are available for purchase legally online in stores in secondhand
marts all over the country right now.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, And some of them were very high dollar items.
These were not items yet for sale. These were items
you had in a safe like mac ten the fires
from an open bolt semi automatically. If you want on
right now, Preston, you're gonna pay about six to seven
grand for that. He had several of those, which, of
course the idiot from the ATF called machine guns. He
(03:49):
had nine hundred and seventy seven flat pieces of metal
that were cut, but they were flat pieces of metal
that needed to be bent and termed. They wanted to
charge him with possessing and seventy seven machine guns. Again,
they're flat pieces of metal that need to be bent
and tooled, and I don't know what to make them
(04:09):
many machine guns. That's what our great guy, Dan O'Kelly
was able to talk to judge out of doing, thus
saving him ten years in prison. Now I interviewed Dan O'Kelly.
He's spent twenty four years in the ATF as a
senior official. I mean he joined in ninety eight having
(04:33):
got a cop. For ten years, ran the ATF in Delaware,
ran the Atlanta Tampa Field Division. Was a hell of
an instructor in the National Academy, wrote a technology course
for ATF personnel, which they're still using. This is the
guy that the defense brought in. This is the guy
that the prosecution wouldn't allow to testify except for those
(04:57):
nine and seventy some flat piece of metal they wanted
to call a machine guns. This is the guy that
got him ten years. And I asked him, I said,
should a Domiak be in prison? He said no, No,
I mean, did the ATF covet forerjury, and he basically said, yes.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Lee, when you talk about the prosecution wouldn't let him,
didn't want him to testify, referring to retired ATF senior
special Agent Daniel O'Kelly. Well, how do they have say
in that? I mean, how is it that his entire
testimony was not allowed?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
They control the issues, They agreed to the issues that
he was there to talk about, so therefore they rendered
him moved. It was, Oh, it was not the best
defense in the world. Let me say that, say that
about his attorneys. But he's got a good crew getting
(05:58):
ready for his PA and I think they're going to
do if it gets that far. Now here's what I've
been dying to tell you. We're getting movement on Tate.
My boss, Alan Gottlieb, head of the Second Amendment Foundation,
said Sunday that that Tate's case has reached d C.
They've talked about it in the White House. What Alan
(06:20):
wants to do is for Tate to be released immediately
and then given some money. I mean, his life has
been up ended. He I don't know if he's going
to file suits or I don't know if the Trump
administration will just give him some money for the basically
four years that he's spent in prison for no damn reason.
But that's where we're at. We've got people in New
Jersey that are having a huge event tomorrow for Tate.
(06:45):
They're setting up there having people come in and sign
papers that they're going to present to the court. You know,
it's taken off around the country and I've never been
followed like this. I've never seen my stories turnout like
this before. I think people are angry that, you know,
here we got a kid who basically committed himself to
(07:06):
the military, committed his life to the military, and then
he was taken out by this damn atf What are the.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You've shared just a fraction, but of what you've covered,
what are the most egregious fabrications and anomalies that took
place in the trial and the sentencing.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Basically, the toy submachine gun, you're buying a toy they put,
they took it apart, They put a reel barrel in
a real action in it.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, let me again, I've got to stop you. I
gotta stop you right there. How was that allowed as
evidence when they took quote the evidence and then cut
it apart? And remanufactured it. I mean that is in
my mind and helped me out because I'm not the
sharpest knife in a drawer here, Lee, That to me
is taking a clock and some fertilizer that's separate and
(08:01):
then somehow pulling it all together, adding a detonator and
say see it's a bomb.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, exactly. Well you'd have to ask firearms enforcement officer
Jeffrey Bodell why he did what he did, because he
got that toy submachine gun. Again, this metal costs you
a couple hundred bucks and everyone sent your home in
a couple of days. It's made in Spain. He turned
that and he got it to fire one round. It
wouldn't take around from the magazine. It wouldn't take around
(08:30):
to the magazine. You had to put one in there,
one at a time. What did he call it? Of
course he called it a machine gun.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
All that proved is that he's a crappy fabricator.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, this was his first time and he went completely
nuts on everything. Why because they were sick of these
type of warrants where they have bad investigators who work
in bad seiyes, who kick down doors and don't find
anything legal and let me tell you something. Tate was playing.
He was playing with his career in the seals. He
(09:02):
was extremely cautious about what he had and about what
he offered for sale. He had nothing illegal because he
didn't want to screw up his career in the Navy
or break the law.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, you mentioned the appeal and the movement that seems
to be happening around the case of tatea domiac. Any
sense of time here, do we know how? Because I
mean sometimes the lethargy of the judicial process is agonizing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's a very polite way of putting it. I would
say his appeal is scheduled for September. I hope that
he's pardoned before then. I think he's the buzz around
the certain circles in DC right now. They're trying to
figure out how to help this kid. Getting him out
of prison would be the first step. He's in a
cell with eleven other dudes. The whole prison knows the Tate,
(09:56):
and as he's in a federal prison New Jersey, the
whole prison knows he's innocent. So let's get him out.
Let's get him out first thing. And I think we're
getting close to that, brother, I really do.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Is there a chance this is so egregious, that's the word.
I keep circling back to how the charges were fabricated
out of thin air, how the evidence was even more
so fabricated, literally fabricated and poorly done. Is there any
chance that members of ATF, namely the one member of
(10:31):
ATF you mentioned, is there any chance they face charges?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I hope so, I think. If you know, Dan O'Kelly
was considered to run ATF, they went another direction. He's
a guy interviewed. I asked him hard questions whether he's
lost faith in the ATF, and he said he's lost
faith in the ATF for years because he's seen these
(11:00):
firearms enforcement officers testify about things they knew were not
true under oath. That's a huge issue that is going
to kill you. You know, ATF, the agents go out
and make an arrest, they arrest the guy, they throw
him in prison, he gets a trial. The firearm enforcement
officers the one who testifies about what he had and
(11:20):
why it was illegal. And if you can't trust that part,
that huge part of the organization, why do you have
an organization?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Did Dan O'Kelly sense was there anything that a Domiac
did that was even remotely against the law.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
No, no, And I asked him that five different ways,
and no, there was nothing he did wrong. I mean,
he's he's strong. I said, what should happen to the
ATF who falsely testified in the Domiac's case? He said,
any FEO testified to something different, and it's a wilful
falsehood that there's supposed to be the gun experts of
(11:58):
the gun police. He said they should be charged with
perjury and jailed. Not to mention being fired. He said,
this is the worst case he's ever seen.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I suppose you could maybe push back on that and
say the case of the guy in Arkansas who lost
his life is maybe worse.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, another case of someone who did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Boy, this is this is the best and the worst
of what you do for a living lee. The best
is uncovering digging. The worst is having to uncover and dig. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Well, gladly give it up. As long as ATF promises
to leave people alone.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Is there a role for ATF?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
No, not in my opinion. I mean, I know the
Trump administration wants to pair ATF with DEEA, my employer.
Second Amendment Foundation opposes that would actually give ATF access
to more money and more agents, and they don't need
that right now.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Brother, ATF has not shown itself as a whole I'm
sure there are individual people within the agency that are
good people, but the bottom line is as a as
a whole entity, they've not shown themselves trustworthy enough to
have the authority it has no When I was.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
A cop years ago, there were something we used to
especially when I was a detective, we used to talk
to ATF occasionally and they were good guys. They were
all extremely pro gun. There were fun guys to go
to the range with. They knew what their job was.
Their job was not harassing's in people. They were there
as kind of a well, we made this arrest and
(13:47):
we caught it with this gun, what's going on here?
And then they would bring in their experts and they
would do a fantastic job. Nowadays, they want to spotlight.
They want to go out there and commit the big
case and find somebody who's doing something wrong. Unfortunately they
don't know how to do that, so that's how we
end up with Tata domniacs.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, it'd be fine if they found the right people
that are actually doing things that are wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
They're not doing that unfortunately. Lee.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
As always, thank you thanks for the hard work on
this case and hopefully we'll soon be talking about it
in a rearview mirror sense and repercussions coming to ATF
as a result.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So hopefully you can have Tate on your show soon.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That would be lovely, all right, Lee, thanks very much, brother,
Talk to you all right. Lee Williams with us The
gun Writer dot substack dot com.
All right, let's get right to it. Five past the hour,
second hour, Friday, June twenty seventh, Here on the Morning
Show with Preston Scott, Please to have with us. He
is known as the gun Writer. His work is found
at Thegunwriter dot substack dot com. You can subscribe and
get his columns, investigated pieces sent directly to your email box.
(00:27):
And it's as simple as just going to the website.
And he's Lee Williams. Good morning, Lee, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Good morning? I'm doing well. How are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I am doing great. You and I both are compared
to Patrick Tate Adomiak. Let's catch everybody up who is
Tate and tell us about his life, what he was doing,
what he was involved in before he came into the
crosshairs of the ATF.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Tate was a maybe E six. He was their version
of an MP in military's He had been accepted to
go to seal school as an officer. He had a degree,
has a degree, and he was going to go to
basic bugs as a seal officer. Just getting there is amazing.
(01:17):
In the meantime, he had another life where he had
a website where he sold military surplus. I'm not talking guns.
I'm talking gun parts, and that was thriving. He would
buy junk basically the way I look at it and
sell it. Guys would buy parts for their guns. The
ATF got a tip that he was selling all kinds
(01:37):
of illegal stuff, so they hit his house, nine separate
law enforcement agencies. They didn't find a damn thing illegal,
So they bring in this kid. The first time he
ever testified in court. He made everything illegal illegally. I
took a RPGs that he had bought rocket Republican Aid
(01:58):
launchers that he had bought at some darre in California.
They were do what They had never fired a rocket.
They were made for training. He paid one hundred bucks
for him. They turned those into rockets. He had a
toy submachine gun, a toy you can buy one right
now and haven't sent your home out of Spain. They
made that into a machine gun. I mean, they just
went absolutely crazy. I think at this point in their
(02:21):
career the ATF was tired of looking like buffoons for
trusting their wrong informants, which they did. In this case,
Tait was the prosekers warned him sentenced to thirty years,
but Q and A, I'm sorry, a special agent, a
senior special agent, Daniel Kelly, who was hired by his
(02:43):
defense team, talked about a ten yere So he was
only sentenced to twenty years in prison. He's on his
fourth year right now, out of prison up in New Jersey.
I got to tell you, I've been doing this for
a long time. I've never talked to anybody who has
eaten that much time that did not do anything wrong.
And I tell you, brother, I've gone through everything that
he's done. There's not a crime there.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
You've literally searched out and found everything that was in
the ATF's case and shown that all of those items
are available for purchase legally online in stores in secondhand
marts all over the country right now.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, And some of them were very high dollar items.
These were not items yet for sale. These were items
you had in a safe like mac ten the fires
from an open bolt semi automatically. If you want on
right now, Preston, you're gonna pay about six to seven
grand for that. He had several of those, which, of
course the idiot from the ATF called machine guns. He
(03:49):
had nine hundred and seventy seven flat pieces of metal
that were cut, but they were flat pieces of metal
that needed to be bent and termed. They wanted to
charge him with possessing and seventy seven machine guns. Again,
they're flat pieces of metal that need to be bent
and tooled, and I don't know what to make them
(04:09):
many machine guns. That's what our great guy, Dan O'Kelly
was able to talk to judge out of doing, thus
saving him ten years in prison. Now I interviewed Dan O'Kelly.
He's spent twenty four years in the ATF as a
senior official. I mean he joined in ninety eight having
(04:33):
got a cop. For ten years, ran the ATF in Delaware,
ran the Atlanta Tampa Field Division. Was a hell of
an instructor in the National Academy, wrote a technology course
for ATF personnel, which they're still using. This is the
guy that the defense brought in. This is the guy
that the prosecution wouldn't allow to testify except for those
(04:57):
nine and seventy some flat piece of metal they wanted
to call a machine guns. This is the guy that
got him ten years. And I asked him, I said,
should a Domiak be in prison? He said no, No,
I mean, did the ATF covet forerjury, and he basically said, yes.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Lee, when you talk about the prosecution wouldn't let him,
didn't want him to testify, referring to retired ATF senior
special Agent Daniel O'Kelly. Well, how do they have say
in that? I mean, how is it that his entire
testimony was not allowed?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
They control the issues, They agreed to the issues that
he was there to talk about, so therefore they rendered
him moved. It was, Oh, it was not the best
defense in the world. Let me say that, say that
about his attorneys. But he's got a good crew getting
(05:58):
ready for his PA and I think they're going to
do if it gets that far. Now here's what I've
been dying to tell you. We're getting movement on Tate.
My boss, Alan Gottlieb, head of the Second Amendment Foundation,
said Sunday that that Tate's case has reached d C.
They've talked about it in the White House. What Alan
(06:20):
wants to do is for Tate to be released immediately
and then given some money. I mean, his life has
been up ended. He I don't know if he's going
to file suits or I don't know if the Trump
administration will just give him some money for the basically
four years that he's spent in prison for no damn reason.
But that's where we're at. We've got people in New
Jersey that are having a huge event tomorrow for Tate.
(06:45):
They're setting up there having people come in and sign
papers that they're going to present to the court. You know,
it's taken off around the country and I've never been
followed like this. I've never seen my stories turnout like
this before. I think people are angry that, you know,
here we got a kid who basically committed himself to
(07:06):
the military, committed his life to the military, and then
he was taken out by this damn atf What are the.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You've shared just a fraction, but of what you've covered,
what are the most egregious fabrications and anomalies that took
place in the trial and the sentencing.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Basically, the toy submachine gun, you're buying a toy they put,
they took it apart, They put a reel barrel in
a real action in it.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, let me again, I've got to stop you. I
gotta stop you right there. How was that allowed as
evidence when they took quote the evidence and then cut
it apart? And remanufactured it. I mean that is in
my mind and helped me out because I'm not the
sharpest knife in a drawer here, Lee, That to me
is taking a clock and some fertilizer that's separate and
(08:01):
then somehow pulling it all together, adding a detonator and
say see it's a bomb.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, exactly. Well you'd have to ask firearms enforcement officer
Jeffrey Bodell why he did what he did, because he
got that toy submachine gun. Again, this metal costs you
a couple hundred bucks and everyone sent your home in
a couple of days. It's made in Spain. He turned
that and he got it to fire one round. It
wouldn't take around from the magazine. It wouldn't take around
(08:30):
to the magazine. You had to put one in there,
one at a time. What did he call it? Of
course he called it a machine gun.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
All that proved is that he's a crappy fabricator.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, this was his first time and he went completely
nuts on everything. Why because they were sick of these
type of warrants where they have bad investigators who work
in bad seiyes, who kick down doors and don't find
anything legal and let me tell you something. Tate was playing.
He was playing with his career in the seals. He
(09:02):
was extremely cautious about what he had and about what
he offered for sale. He had nothing illegal because he
didn't want to screw up his career in the Navy
or break the law.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, you mentioned the appeal and the movement that seems
to be happening around the case of tatea domiac. Any
sense of time here, do we know how? Because I
mean sometimes the lethargy of the judicial process is agonizing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's a very polite way of putting it. I would
say his appeal is scheduled for September. I hope that
he's pardoned before then. I think he's the buzz around
the certain circles in DC right now. They're trying to
figure out how to help this kid. Getting him out
of prison would be the first step. He's in a
cell with eleven other dudes. The whole prison knows the Tate,
(09:56):
and as he's in a federal prison New Jersey, the
whole prison knows he's innocent. So let's get him out.
Let's get him out first thing. And I think we're
getting close to that, brother, I really do.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Is there a chance this is so egregious, that's the word.
I keep circling back to how the charges were fabricated
out of thin air, how the evidence was even more
so fabricated, literally fabricated and poorly done. Is there any
chance that members of ATF, namely the one member of
(10:31):
ATF you mentioned, is there any chance they face charges?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I hope so, I think. If you know, Dan O'Kelly
was considered to run ATF, they went another direction. He's
a guy interviewed. I asked him hard questions whether he's
lost faith in the ATF, and he said he's lost
faith in the ATF for years because he's seen these
(11:00):
firearms enforcement officers testify about things they knew were not
true under oath. That's a huge issue that is going
to kill you. You know, ATF, the agents go out
and make an arrest, they arrest the guy, they throw
him in prison, he gets a trial. The firearm enforcement
officers the one who testifies about what he had and
(11:20):
why it was illegal. And if you can't trust that part,
that huge part of the organization, why do you have
an organization?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Did Dan O'Kelly sense was there anything that a Domiac
did that was even remotely against the law.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
No, no, And I asked him that five different ways,
and no, there was nothing he did wrong. I mean,
he's he's strong. I said, what should happen to the
ATF who falsely testified in the Domiac's case? He said,
any FEO testified to something different, and it's a wilful
falsehood that there's supposed to be the gun experts of
(11:58):
the gun police. He said they should be charged with
perjury and jailed. Not to mention being fired. He said,
this is the worst case he's ever seen.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I suppose you could maybe push back on that and
say the case of the guy in Arkansas who lost
his life is maybe worse.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, another case of someone who did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Boy, this is this is the best and the worst
of what you do for a living lee. The best
is uncovering digging. The worst is having to uncover and dig. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Well, gladly give it up. As long as ATF promises
to leave people alone.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Is there a role for ATF?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
No, not in my opinion. I mean, I know the
Trump administration wants to pair ATF with DEEA, my employer.
Second Amendment Foundation opposes that would actually give ATF access
to more money and more agents, and they don't need
that right now.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Brother, ATF has not shown itself as a whole I'm
sure there are individual people within the agency that are
good people, but the bottom line is as a as
a whole entity, they've not shown themselves trustworthy enough to
have the authority it has no When I was.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
A cop years ago, there were something we used to
especially when I was a detective, we used to talk
to ATF occasionally and they were good guys. They were
all extremely pro gun. There were fun guys to go
to the range with. They knew what their job was.
Their job was not harassing's in people. They were there
as kind of a well, we made this arrest and
(13:47):
we caught it with this gun, what's going on here?
And then they would bring in their experts and they
would do a fantastic job. Nowadays, they want to spotlight.
They want to go out there and commit the big
case and find somebody who's doing something wrong. Unfortunately they
don't know how to do that, so that's how we
end up with Tata domniacs.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, it'd be fine if they found the right people
that are actually doing things that are wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
They're not doing that unfortunately. Lee.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
As always, thank you thanks for the hard work on
this case and hopefully we'll soon be talking about it
in a rearview mirror sense and repercussions coming to ATF
as a result.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So hopefully you can have Tate on your show soon.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That would be lovely, all right, Lee, thanks very much, brother,
Talk to you all right. Lee Williams with us The
gun Writer dot substack dot com.
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