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October 6, 2025 • 15 mins
Ira Schoffel, the Managing Editor of WarChant.com, joined our host to review the loss to Miami and preview the visit by Pitt. They also discussed whether there was any real chance for FSU to make the college football playoff.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Five past the hour, third hour Morning show with Preston
Scott Show and sixty six Thank you very much. He
is Jose I am Preston. Great to be with you.
The Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins at the bottom of the hour,
but we got to talk about things that really matter,
and that's Footbaul college football to be more specific. And

(00:26):
we're joined by the managing editor at war chant dot com.
He is irishchaffel Ira.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
How you doing. I'm good, Preston, How are you.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm doing fine after you've had a weekend to digest
perhaps even look at the game again. I mean, looking
at it with your own eyes is one thing. Looking
at it on TV seems to be another. What are
your thoughts on the game Saturday?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know, I think from a big picture standpoint, you know,
going into it, I think we all thought Florida State
needed to play really well. I thought they would play well,
and that you know Miami, He's very talented, and you
probably needed Miami to not play very well, not have
a terrible game, but you just needed them to maybe
not look super sharp, which we kind of expected might

(01:11):
happen because it was their first road game, but instead,
you know, Florida State did not play very well obviously offensively,
and Miami played great offensively. They did a great job
of kind of taking the crowd out of it, and
I thought Florida State didn't execute as well as they
could have on offense, and so that's how you get
into a big hole. So, you know, I don't think
that it, you know, was totally shocking that they lost

(01:34):
the game, but I was surprised that Florida State didn't
do better on offense and that Miami was able to
go on the road for the first time in front
of a great crowd and just kind of execute their
offense pretty flawlessly.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, you know, I walk away thinking, okay, at least
they showed a little fight in that fourth quarter. But
it's been pointed out, well, you know, Miami was rotating
some players, but you know, Mario Cristobal, he's a decent guy,
but he wants to beat Florida State bad late. How
deep were his rotations? Did we just make hay with
their backups and scrubs?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, I don't think so. I think they still had
a lot of their guys in there. In fact, you know,
even down to the stretch. But I thought that. You know,
they definitely were going to play softer, and they played
kind of soft all night. You know, really that's kind
of what their approach was. They really tried to, you know,
get pressure after Tommy Caslano's get after him, but then
drop a lot of guys in the coverage and force
him to take the checkdowns. And I think that's kind

(02:28):
of where maybe he got into some trouble, is trying to,
you know, go for some big plays, because that's what
Forestate's done. They've run the ball and then take big
shots down the field. The big shots weren't there because
they Minmi was playing pretty deep, but in those those
drives at the end, like I don't know how many
times I've ever seen a team in a huge deficit
trying to make up scores late going on nineteen play drive,

(02:50):
but that was you know, they had to take the
things underneath and earlier in the game. They just didn't
do a great job of doing that.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
You know, you and I both know we followed this
game for a long time. Quarterbacks get too much credit,
quarterbacks get too much blame. But somewhere in the middle
is a fair evaluation. And while Tommy Castellanos took a
lot of responsibility for the loss. It isn't all his,
but there are some things to be said about your
senior quarterback making throws like he made off his back

(03:18):
foot into a cover three, and he should know better
not to do that and to take those check downs.
So what is your impression on lessons learned or at
what point do you think Florida State says, you know,
we can't, we can't do this with a guy who's
only here one year.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, it's a tough situation from that standpoint. On the
one hand, you know, you knew you're going to have
some of this with Tommy Castalanos. You know, he's a
guy that's had turnovers throughout his career, but he looked
so good early this season. It seemed like he had
made a lot of strides. But yeah, I think that's
the biggest thing, is just not understanding the magnitude of
these moments. And if you think back to his career,

(03:57):
he's never really dealt with this this. That's kind of
one of the challenges of the transfer portal eras. You know,
you you bring kids in from one program that maybe
has one set of expectations and you think they're going
to fit in well athletically, and I think Tommy does
fit in well athletically with what gos Malzan wants to do.
But from a standpoint of the moment that you know

(04:18):
how important this drive is, how important this possession is.
We saw it last week in Virginia. You fall behind early,
you go straight down the field, you have a chance
to tie the game, and you throw an interception on
first down. Then in this game, you know, you have
the fourth and eight interception. You know, you can't get
too mad about it was fourth down anyway, he had
to throw it. He didn't have a checkdown available, but

(04:38):
he took the shot and he was intercepted. But later
it's it's a you know, it's still basically the game's
still within reach. It's fourteen to three and you have
a first down inside Miami's forty and you throw an
interception to the probably the player're talking about where he
just drifts to his right and just throws it rolling
and just throws it up for grass, basically to a
guy who's double covered. That's the kind of play that

(05:00):
can't happen. Well, Tommy has not been in the system
for you know, three years, he's not played for GUS,
he's not played to a school like Florida State. So
you know, these are the things that can happen. The
one question I think when in terms of the big
picture is I still think there's a question about whether
or not he's going to be eligible next year or not.
So the question is does Florida State look at him

(05:22):
as a two year option or a one year option?
And that may play into the decisions.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Before we look ahead, we're doing our post mortem on
the Miami game. Irishafell, Managing editor at warchan dot com
great place to get content, outstanding writing and reporting on
all things Florida State Athletics. IRA, your colleague Corey Clark.
This kind of suggests that these are moments that seem
to happen and that maybe there's some lessons needing to

(05:53):
be learned by head coach Mike Norvell on when to
go forward and when not to go for it. Your
thoughts on what Corey had to say and just the
overall idea that maybe the coach needs to learn a
few lessons on the proper time to gamble.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, you know, I mean I think that clearly that
one didn't work out, you know, and I think that
it's a it's a it's a it's a weird situation again,
kind of going back to what we finished the last
segment with, is in these compressed basically one year since
situations where you have all these new pieces, you know,
it's it's your I think the coaches are still learning

(06:31):
the players. You know. We talked to Tony White, floor
State's defensive coordinator yesterday, and that was one of the
things I asked him, and he said, yeah, that is
a real thing, because you know, he's you know, these
coaches have been with these players and for the most
part for you know, four or five games, four games
going into this game, and this was the first home game, uh,

(06:51):
you know since that big Alabama game, and and so
maybe some things you expected in that game you're gonna
expect to see in this game. But the circumstances are
different and guys handled moments different, and I think the
coach has clearly thought that. I think Tommy would you know,
I think there were a couple options on that play
where that play could have been successful, but Tommy didn't
get rid of it in time. He got a little

(07:12):
bit pressure, pressure from the outside and then he ends
up kind of forcing it as he's getting hit, and
he gets picked off and then gets run back and
then the flea flick or the next play, next play.
So it was a disastrous event there. But again, you know,
I just think that they're going on limited information sometimes
it would I'm not trying to make excuses for them,
but it's just different when you've coached guys for several

(07:33):
years and gone through processes with them, as opposed to
you just bring somebody in and you have to figure
this all out on the fly.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
You mentioned Tony White, the defensive coordinator. What were his
thoughts on the secondary getting really beat by two wide
receivers that are really fast.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
You know, he really put a lot of it to
mistakes in terms of alignment again, you know, and again
like the Malachai Toni, the receiver from Miami that's super fast,
and also the other receiver Daniels that had those two
guys at the big games. He said, you know, in
certain situations, for example, there's a play where the corner
is supposed to be ten yards off the ball, Well,

(08:12):
the corner for whatever reason, lined up seven yards off
the ball or seven and a half yards line off
the ball. Well, that makes a tremendous difference the way
the play comes out. And now maybe you're beat by
a couple of steps as opposed to being running with
the receiver. And again, you know that's not to say
it's all on the player's fault, and Tony White took
the blame for it and said, we've got to coach
them up better. But again, I think this is where

(08:33):
you get into you know, one of the corners involved
a lot of those plays. Jerry Wilson, who's a Houston
transfer and you know, played very well early this season. Well,
this is a big game against Miami. He's an in
state kid, and you know, maybe emotions play into it.
Maybe the stakes are so much higher now. Again, I
think what's interesting about that Alabama game is the stakes

(08:54):
weren't really high for Florida State because nobody expected them
to win. I mean, everybody thought Alabama was going to
I'm in here in steamroll. Then, well, you shocked the
world win that game. Now you're top ten in the country,
there's a lot of pressure on you. Miami comes to town,
they're number three in the country. I just think that
it was a much bigger moment, and I think you
saw a lot of guys weren't really ready for that moment.
Now that's the blame goes to the coaches and blames

(09:16):
goes to the players. It's not an excuse, but I
do think that that's part of what happened.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Twenty one past the our final segment. Irishafell from war
chan dot com. Now to look ahead, Ira, let's go
first to Pitt. What are the expectations with the Panthers
coming to town.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, I mean I think that they certainly caught everybody's
attention last week by just throttling Boston College. Now, bust
College is not any good, but Pitt beat them forty
eight to seven. It was over at halftime, and they
played a freshman quarterback. They benched their starter, Eli Holstein,
and they played a freshman and the kid was awesome.
He threw over three hundred yards, really pressive. So that's

(10:00):
kind of a it's they don't have a lot of
information on this kid, so that's going to be interesting
to see how how they handle it. And then him
it'll be his first road start against you know, a
Florida State defense, which will be a big step up.
From Boston College. So for state favored by ten points,
but it'll be an interesting game. Pitt is uh you know,
they certainly uh you know again, we're impressive this past weekend.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
A little bit of a negation of a home crowd
advantage though with a noontime kickoff, don't you think.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, and especially you know, if you if you, if
you lose some steam from the out of town fans,
I think the students will show still show up. They'll
roll in. They'll roll in about you know, maybe five
six minutes into the first quarter, but they'll I believe
the students will show up. They've been great the last
few years for sure. But I think that yeah, yeah,
some of the out of town folks might not make

(10:48):
their way in. But but I do think, you know,
I still think there's some people that are there's there's
still some I don't know. I don't know that people
have abandoned ship yet. I would say that, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
I was going to say I'm bullish. I'm a homer.
I admit it. I am absolutely a homer. I'm not
you know. I try to be as analytical as I
can and give myself good reasons to be a homer.
But the fact of the matter is, I've been making
the argument that with the schedule that's ahead, with maybe
the best two teams three teams on the schedule in
the rearview mirror, you lost two of them, you won

(11:21):
one of them, this team could find itself back up
in the rankings and significantly enough that they could be
considered for one of the at large picks for the
twelve team playoff. Am I being an outlandishly optimistic homer?
Or is there a path there?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Ira? Oh? The path is definitely there. And you know,
the team we thought this team was three weeks into
the season, especially after that win over Alabama, could certainly
have done that. You know, you look at these last
you know, six seven games. I mean there are all
games that Florida State might be favored in and certainly
can and maybe should win. The challenge is going to be,

(12:01):
you know, can they get back to that form because
there's some losable games too. You know, obviously you're going
to Clemson, you're going to Florida, going to NC State
on a Friday night, like those will all be really
challenging games, and you know, if you don't play well,
you can lose to other teams as well, But no,
the path is there. They're they're right now. They're still
in the top twenty five, which I think is huge

(12:21):
because now you're still in the in the public consciousness,
you're not in the also receiving votes where you're kind
of out of the mindset. And then I think when
you looking back at the year, if they were to
run the table, and if those were your only two
losses and one of them is Friday night in double
overtime to Virginia, looks pretty good, and the other one
is at home to Miami. That's, you know, by six

(12:41):
points on paper, that's going to look pretty good in
a couple of months. Yeah. Now, I think they'll have
a great argument if they can get there. The question
is can they get there?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Is that the selling point for Mike Norvel? Guys, tough loss,
We've got to play better, you know, we can play better,
but all goals are still in front of us. That's
got to be a sales pitch, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah? And I think that this that's why this game
is so huge, because if you if you lose the
pit at home, yeah, you're you're gonna have a tough
time with that but if you beat Pitt, the next
game is at Stanford, who's not good at all. You
should win that. Then you get Wake for us at home.
You should win that. You'd be sitting at six and
two going into that Clemson game. And you know I

(13:22):
mean again, so that now that gets you back in
a position where you had an opportunity this past weekend,
a big stage. Here's your chance to make your statement
and get this big win, set yourself up. You didn't
come through, that would give you a kind of a reset.
So yeah, but this Pick game is huge. You need
this win to kind of propel you into that stretch.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Tell me this, let's you and I both go back
to the days of the Kentucky Derby, you know kind
of offense where we had the red shirt junior getting
ready to play and run a series or two. Do
you see a scenario if if it's determined that Tommy's
going to be a one year game and he's not
going to get that second year, is there a scenario

(14:03):
where you see wisdom in playing Kevin Sperry and getting
him some series out there, not maybe starting him, but
getting him out there in real time with the ones.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
You know, it's Actually, I hadn't really thought about it, Preston,
but I actually think that's a pretty good idea because
the big thing it would do is, first of all,
you see what you have with Kevin Sperry. He may
have something special. Gus Malzan loves the kid, no question,
And you're seeing freshman play around the country, and this
is an offense where you should be able to play
as a freshman because it's not one of these it's
not Jimbo Fisher's offense. This is an offense that you

(14:35):
should be able to run when you're a younger quarterback.
The other thing I think it might do is it
might take pressure off of Tommy. I think Tommy Castalanos
because of that Alabama win after last season. I think
he felt like he's got to carry this team. I
think he feels like he's got to be the hero.
And I think you saw him the way he talked
about after the game that he told the team this
was on me. This is all my fault. I'm going

(14:55):
to make it up to you. He feels I'm sure
the weight of the world, the weight of this program
on his shoulders. If you were to show him that,
hey man, we have another guy that can play too,
take a second and watch this and take some pressure
off yourself. I think it could work well. Now, obviously
if Kevin Sperry does well and Tommy doesn't, now you
have a decision to make, but that may be the
best decision to make for the team. So yeah, I

(15:18):
hadn't really given much thought pressing, but I actually think
that's something they should really consider.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Iras always, I enjoy our visits. We'll talk again next week.
Thank you, sir, You too, sir, Thanks all right. Iras
Chaffelle with Usrowarchant dot Com. When we come back. Florida's
Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins joins US
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