November 5, 2025 • 14 mins
Preston talked with Ira Schoffel, Managing Editor of WarChant.com, about the recent win by the Noles and what it will take for FSU to be one the elite programs, again.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, five past the hour, third hour of the
morning Show with Rustin Scott Busy Monday morning here on
the radio program. As we are now into the month
of November, and thank goodness we are here, and we
are joined by the managing editor at war chant dot com.
He is Iras Chaffell.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Ira.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Boy, October, what a horrible month of football it was,
but we have something to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, they're calling it a new November, and price price
smart too. I'll latch onto the month of November because, yeah,
as you said, the month of October, some new Flordnesday
football team probably wants to forget about. We'll see if
it's totally in our rearview mirror, probably in these next
couple of weeks, but for at least one Saturday, we
can block that out of our minds.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Let's before we get into maybe a little bit more
of the microview macroview, what did you see Saturday night?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You know, I think the you know, the the big
question last week since the Stanford game, because there were
some reports that the players had checked out on Mike Norvel,
that they were tuning him out. You know, that became
the big focus. I think for a lot of people
is okay, we'll see that you're at home against Wake Forest,
and you know, one of the things I told some
people during the week was, you know, it's one thing
to look bad in the middle of the night across
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the country, but if you come back in your home
stadium on homecoming and look like you don't want to
be there, that's going to answer all the questions we
have about Mike Norvel. Well, the team answered them in
the affirmative that they still are together. For at least
a day, they still played hard. Mike Norvell and the
coaches say they had two great weeks of practice, So again,
that all flies in the face of the idea that
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the team had checked out on him. That doesn't change
the fact that they did lose four games. It doesn't
change the fact that they may not be good enough
to beat an average Clemson team on the road this Saturday,
or beat a Florida team without its head coach, or
a Virginia Tech with team without a coach. So to me,
it just kind of put a pause on everything. The
big concern everybody had apparently is not true. The players
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came out and spoke highly of Mike Norvel after the game,
they kind of rallied around him, and well, now we'll
see if that lasts. But you know, I don't think
it changed anything in terms of what the season has been.
Other than that concern, I think it has been a lead.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Is there anything that any of the individual players said
that you quoted in in some of your articles, Ira
in the wake of the game against Wake? Sorry, is
there anything that stands out, anything that surprised you?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The biggest one to me and I you know, and
a lot of it. You know, he loves us, we
love him, that kind of stuff. It's you know, it's
with every coach. Every player should think about their coach
if they like them and respect them, and a lot
of times they do. Even when coaches get fired. Even
when coaches should get fired, the players don't usually get
to vote. I thought one that kind of stuck out
to me was, you know, Tommy Caslano's talking about how
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consistent Mike Norvel has and then I think are a
Little said the same thing as either are a Little
or Jabill Rawls. One of them said, listen, when we
were down, he was the guy that was kind of
trying to lift us up. He never gave up on us.
And that is one thing to think about because what
happens in these relationships with coaches and players. And I
think you saw it on the sideline Saturday at Clemson
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where Dabo is screaming at his sideline, screaming at his players,
kind of embarrassing them, you know, listen. Well, it'll be
interesting to see how those players respond to that, because
what happened. Sometimes these coaches are making all this money,
sometimes they can turn it on the players and they
can roll the players, and the players see that, and
that's how you lose a team. The fact that they're
saying that even when they were down, Mike Norvel was
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lifting them up. He believed in them. That could be
a powerful thing. Now we'll see the results are you know,
are to be determined. That I think that's where, you know,
for the people that felt like Florida State should have
fired Mike after Stanford, and I think there's some people
in the administration and some people some other people who
felt like, let's let's see how this plays out. You know,
we're still going to see how it plays out. That
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game didn't change anything long term, but I do think
those comments and that approach might be worth watching.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Joining me Irischaffel from warchan dot com. He's the managing editor,
talking FSU football finally winning again after a very that
bad streak of four straight losses. You talked about the
Dabo Sweeney thing and that you beat me to the punch, Ira,
because man, you know, things have changed. Back when you
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and I were younger and maybe playing sports, coaches could
get on players rather routinely and that was part of
being coached. Then it just gradually changed where you don't
embarrass them on the sidelines if you want to keep
them around, especially now in the portal. What is your
hunch about I mean, we're talking about two very different
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approaches that Dabo Sweeney and Mike Norvell have taken with
their teams. What what do you think we're going to
see on Saturday?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, that's a great question, and I think we you know,
the answer is not to be determined. This is such
a whole new world, you know. And I had some
conversations with some people last week because you talked about
other coaching candidates that are out there and in different
styles and and and so you ask yourself, Okay, could
that guy work in this environment? Could that you know,
could could the way you coached. You know, Brian Kelly
just flames out at LSU and he's a guy that
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had unbelievable success in Notre Dame, and we thought, if
you give him LSU's talent, I mean, they're going to
be unbelievable, and then instead it goes very average and
he ends up getting fired in the year four. So
I just think there are no sure things, and so
when you look at you know, how how to predict
what Florida Sat Clemson looked this week? I think if
Florida State gets off to a decent start, I feel
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confident they'll play well. I feel confident they'll play hard,
and I think Clemson's defense, for whatever is wrong with them,
and it's apparently a lot wrong with them, I think
Florida State will score some points. What I don't know
about Florida State, and we have to see is when
things start going, if things go poorly on the road,
how are they going to play and how do they respond?
And that's the thing. You know, you go back to
the Alabama game, and my only concern about that game
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was everything they needed to go well went well. And
so it's easy to play well when you're ahead and
you're controlling the game. That Wake Forest game was very
much the same. When Wake Forest had a couple of
chances to put FSU under pressure, they get a holding call,
they drop a pass, they miss an open receiver. So
nothing really went wrong in that game, and we see
that this is how this team can play if things
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don't go wrong. What I don't know is if you
go to Clemson and things go poorly, you fumble early
like you did in some of those losses, or you
just have a costly mistake, how do you respond to that.
That's to me going to be telling, because that's where
this team has really struggled so far.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
When I watched the game on Saturday night, IRA, what
occurred to me was early on, I had to remember
this team had seemed to have a little bit of
rust from not having played, But as the game went on,
they just played a little better and a little better
and a little better. Now, granted, Wake Force, with the
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exception of their running backs, they're pretty bad offensively, their
quarterbacks not very good. But that said, this was a
fairly disciplined, you know game for Florida State on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, you know, and again it would would it would
have been interesting to see how they handled it if
Wake did make some of the plays that were there,
especially early in the game, because you know, it's it's
seven to nothing late in the second quarter, midway to
the second quarter, late in the second quarter. But yeah,
to your point, when FSU did get stopped on fourth down,
the defense came out and played well. Win FSU did
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you know, make mistakes, they didn't compound and so those
are all positive things. And as you said, they were
more disciplined. You didn't see guys running wide open. Even
when wake Forest quarterback got out and he's athletic, the
one thing he can really do is run yep, when
he got out on the perimeter, Forest it pretty quickly
and kept them to maybe a twelve yard game as
opposed to a thirty yard game. You think back to
(08:05):
the pit game or you know, I'd rather not we're
well in those games when the quarterback would get loose,
maybe you'd run for thirty yards. You didn't see that,
Like they rallied to the ball they hit. So those
are all, you know, definitely positive things. You know, I
don't like to leave a game where you played well
and point out that what you did wrong in previous games.
(08:27):
But but you know, that's the reality. We're looking at
a small window right now where they played the way
they were supposed to play.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
With the marching Chiefs in the background, we are back
with Irishchafellewarchant dot Com taking some time on Mondays to
talk a little Florida State football. Iras, I'm looking at
the schedule that October. Uh, well, I mean late September,
you got Virginia Miami Pitt Stanford Miami. Yeah, we kind
of got boat race there, but Virginian Pitt. Is it
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hard looking back and say at this point those were
bad losses. Florida State shouldn't have lost those games because
it looks to me like we were in those games.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, Virginia is definitely not a bad loss. You know,
you're on the road on a Friday night, on a
short week, playing a team that now is number twelve
in the country, had a six year starting quarterback. You
were playing your first road game. I mean, I think
you're going to double overtime, and it's a game where
even in double overtime, you know, or during that game,
you have a chance to win the game, where you know,
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a touchdowns overturned, and so to me, that game is
not a game you look back and it's a missed opportunity,
But to me, it's not a bad loss. Losing a
Pit to Losing to Pit at home is never good.
And you know, even though they're seven and two right now,
that's a game that you know you're gonna it's you
knows a Florida State fan and what you believe the
sport is and where Florida State should be. You don't
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feel like you should ever lose at home to Pit.
So that's a tough one to swallow. Even though they're
seven and two, they've got a really good quarterback, they're
a good football team. But you know, so those twos aren't.
But yeah, I think to the point you're probably going
to try to make is the Stanford game is completely different, right.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, Yeah, Stanford is the one that you have to
just scratch your head at. And that's really the one
that that is the one that might nag the decision
makers out there or even those that want to just
evaluate Mike Norvell because that's the one game that, under
no circumstances should this Florida State team lose to.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, and especially when it happened, you know, and again,
it would be one thing if you were seven and
to zero and went out to Stanford, who is bad
and they are they're not a good football team. The
week before you played them, they give up thirty four points,
the week after that they give up forty two points.
Then this past week they give up another ton of points.
So they're a bad defense, and they were there to
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get beaten and Florida stays offense just picked that day
to play. It's probably the worst game of the season.
They scored thirteen points, a ton of penalties, ton of
just mistakes and turnovers, just played terribly. And so that's
a game that you know, if you're having a good
season and you sleep walk through that game but then
pull it out at the end, nobody remembers it. A
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lot of teams have those kinds of games. But when
you've already lost two games or three games in a
row and you know that you've got to rally around
this coach and this team, and then you go out
there and play like that, it was just really just
not just disappointing, but kind of an indictment on this team. Now,
you did come back, you know, after the bye week,
and you look good again. And if you turn it
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around these next few weeks, maybe you can look at
that whole month in a different lens. But as of
right now, yeah, the Stanford game, to me is the
game that's the most inexcusable.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Regardless of who the head coach will be next season,
whether it's coach and Orvel coming back or whether they
go in another direction, what is needed for Florida State
to be in the world of the Ohio states of
the world, And I use Ohio State because they do
not have the biggest nil budget. It's a good one.
It's healthy, they're part of the Big ten, get a
lot of money. But they pick and choose their their
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portal recruits very very specifically and carefully. But what they
seem to do better than maybe anybody else is they
get them out of high school and they develop them.
Is that the secret sauce? And what has to happen
for Florida State to get to that territory.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, I think that's where everybody wants to be. The
challenge is if you weren't already there when the portal happened,
it's hard to navigate this and this is the you
know where Florida State though the land mines they've been
walking through for the last four or five years is
you know, Florida State wasn't in the position when Mike
Norvel got hired to just say, you know what, we're
going to take some time and recruit through high schools.
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Like he inherited a bad programs. They went heavy in
the portal and was rewarded for that. You went thirteen
to know, you won nineteen straight games, and so from
that standpoint, that felt like the right way to go.
But then you get married to it, and then you
can't get out of it. It's just hard to make
that transition now. I think whatever would whoever you know
and listen, it's even tard for Georgia and some of
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these other teams. They've had a hard time holding on
to the high school for recrus. Mario Christobalt Miami has
gotten a ton of credit for how he's recruited high schools.
They've lost a lot of these guys because what happens
is you sign them, but then if they're not playing early,
or if you bring in portal guys to play, they're
going to leave and go to other schools. So it's
a really tricky thing. I do think from a big
picture standpoint, Florida State really needs to look at what
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they need to do to get back to being great,
and I don't know if the portal's the answer to that.
Maybe there is a way to step back and say,
you know what, these next two years are not going
to be what we want to do. We're going to
play these young guys. We're not going to sign them
and let them transfer out. We're going to give it
some time and try to build for a run in
a couple of years. Otherwise you may just be kind
of stuck in this limbo. But it's easier to say
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that than it is to do it, because then you
have to actually take the losses to come with playing
those young guys.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I was just going to ask you, do fans have
the patients for that? Do administrators have the patients for that?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's the tough part, man. A lot of people say
they do until you get into it, and then you
don't want to actually watch the losses. So yeah, it's
it would take a commitment, it would take a you know,
a lot of forethought. But again, it's easy to say
that it's a lot harder when you go to the
city month Saturday. Yeah, and watch your team lose lose
to a bunch of older transfers from another team.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Iras always appreciate the insight. Thanks very much reading what
you do at war chant dot com. Thanks as always,
thanks pressing taking Ira Chaffel, Managing Editor war chant dot com.
When we come back, Ericadonald's will join us with America
First Policy Institute on the Morning Show
All right, five past the hour, third hour of the
morning Show with Rustin Scott Busy Monday morning here on
the radio program. As we are now into the month
of November, and thank goodness we are here, and we
are joined by the managing editor at war chant dot com.
He is Iras Chaffell.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Ira.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Boy, October, what a horrible month of football it was,
but we have something to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, they're calling it a new November, and price price
smart too. I'll latch onto the month of November because, yeah,
as you said, the month of October, some new Flordnesday
football team probably wants to forget about. We'll see if
it's totally in our rearview mirror, probably in these next
couple of weeks, but for at least one Saturday, we
can block that out of our minds.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Let's before we get into maybe a little bit more
of the microview macroview, what did you see Saturday night?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You know, I think the you know, the the big
question last week since the Stanford game, because there were
some reports that the players had checked out on Mike Norvel,
that they were tuning him out. You know, that became
the big focus. I think for a lot of people
is okay, we'll see that you're at home against Wake Forest,
and you know, one of the things I told some
people during the week was, you know, it's one thing
to look bad in the middle of the night across
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the country, but if you come back in your home
stadium on homecoming and look like you don't want to
be there, that's going to answer all the questions we
have about Mike Norvel. Well, the team answered them in
the affirmative that they still are together. For at least
a day, they still played hard. Mike Norvell and the
coaches say they had two great weeks of practice, So again,
that all flies in the face of the idea that
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the team had checked out on him. That doesn't change
the fact that they did lose four games. It doesn't
change the fact that they may not be good enough
to beat an average Clemson team on the road this Saturday,
or beat a Florida team without its head coach, or
a Virginia Tech with team without a coach. So to me,
it just kind of put a pause on everything. The
big concern everybody had apparently is not true. The players
(02:06):
came out and spoke highly of Mike Norvel after the game,
they kind of rallied around him, and well, now we'll
see if that lasts. But you know, I don't think
it changed anything in terms of what the season has been.
Other than that concern, I think it has been a lead.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Is there anything that any of the individual players said
that you quoted in in some of your articles, Ira
in the wake of the game against Wake? Sorry, is
there anything that stands out, anything that surprised you?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The biggest one to me and I you know, and
a lot of it. You know, he loves us, we
love him, that kind of stuff. It's you know, it's
with every coach. Every player should think about their coach
if they like them and respect them, and a lot
of times they do. Even when coaches get fired. Even
when coaches should get fired, the players don't usually get
to vote. I thought one that kind of stuck out
to me was, you know, Tommy Caslano's talking about how
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consistent Mike Norvel has and then I think are a
Little said the same thing as either are a Little
or Jabill Rawls. One of them said, listen, when we
were down, he was the guy that was kind of
trying to lift us up. He never gave up on us.
And that is one thing to think about because what
happens in these relationships with coaches and players. And I
think you saw it on the sideline Saturday at Clemson
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where Dabo is screaming at his sideline, screaming at his players,
kind of embarrassing them, you know, listen. Well, it'll be
interesting to see how those players respond to that, because
what happened. Sometimes these coaches are making all this money,
sometimes they can turn it on the players and they
can roll the players, and the players see that, and
that's how you lose a team. The fact that they're
saying that even when they were down, Mike Norvel was
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lifting them up. He believed in them. That could be
a powerful thing. Now we'll see the results are you know,
are to be determined. That I think that's where, you know,
for the people that felt like Florida State should have
fired Mike after Stanford, and I think there's some people
in the administration and some people some other people who
felt like, let's let's see how this plays out. You know,
we're still going to see how it plays out. That
(04:01):
game didn't change anything long term, but I do think
those comments and that approach might be worth watching.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Joining me Irischaffel from warchan dot com. He's the managing editor,
talking FSU football finally winning again after a very that
bad streak of four straight losses. You talked about the
Dabo Sweeney thing and that you beat me to the punch, Ira,
because man, you know, things have changed. Back when you
(04:36):
and I were younger and maybe playing sports, coaches could
get on players rather routinely and that was part of
being coached. Then it just gradually changed where you don't
embarrass them on the sidelines if you want to keep
them around, especially now in the portal. What is your
hunch about I mean, we're talking about two very different
(04:59):
approaches that Dabo Sweeney and Mike Norvell have taken with
their teams. What what do you think we're going to
see on Saturday?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, that's a great question, and I think we you know,
the answer is not to be determined. This is such
a whole new world, you know. And I had some
conversations with some people last week because you talked about
other coaching candidates that are out there and in different
styles and and and so you ask yourself, Okay, could
that guy work in this environment? Could that you know,
could could the way you coached. You know, Brian Kelly
just flames out at LSU and he's a guy that
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had unbelievable success in Notre Dame, and we thought, if
you give him LSU's talent, I mean, they're going to
be unbelievable, and then instead it goes very average and
he ends up getting fired in the year four. So
I just think there are no sure things, and so
when you look at you know, how how to predict
what Florida Sat Clemson looked this week? I think if
Florida State gets off to a decent start, I feel
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confident they'll play well. I feel confident they'll play hard,
and I think Clemson's defense, for whatever is wrong with them,
and it's apparently a lot wrong with them, I think
Florida State will score some points. What I don't know
about Florida State, and we have to see is when
things start going, if things go poorly on the road,
how are they going to play and how do they respond?
And that's the thing. You know, you go back to
the Alabama game, and my only concern about that game
(06:15):
was everything they needed to go well went well. And
so it's easy to play well when you're ahead and
you're controlling the game. That Wake Forest game was very
much the same. When Wake Forest had a couple of
chances to put FSU under pressure, they get a holding call,
they drop a pass, they miss an open receiver. So
nothing really went wrong in that game, and we see
that this is how this team can play if things
(06:35):
don't go wrong. What I don't know is if you
go to Clemson and things go poorly, you fumble early
like you did in some of those losses, or you
just have a costly mistake, how do you respond to that.
That's to me going to be telling, because that's where
this team has really struggled so far.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
When I watched the game on Saturday night, IRA, what
occurred to me was early on, I had to remember
this team had seemed to have a little bit of
rust from not having played, But as the game went on,
they just played a little better and a little better
and a little better. Now, granted, Wake Force, with the
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exception of their running backs, they're pretty bad offensively, their
quarterbacks not very good. But that said, this was a
fairly disciplined, you know game for Florida State on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, you know, and again it would would it would
have been interesting to see how they handled it if
Wake did make some of the plays that were there,
especially early in the game, because you know, it's it's
seven to nothing late in the second quarter, midway to
the second quarter, late in the second quarter. But yeah,
to your point, when FSU did get stopped on fourth down,
the defense came out and played well. Win FSU did
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you know, make mistakes, they didn't compound and so those
are all positive things. And as you said, they were
more disciplined. You didn't see guys running wide open. Even
when wake Forest quarterback got out and he's athletic, the
one thing he can really do is run yep, when
he got out on the perimeter, Forest it pretty quickly
and kept them to maybe a twelve yard game as
opposed to a thirty yard game. You think back to
(08:05):
the pit game or you know, I'd rather not we're
well in those games when the quarterback would get loose,
maybe you'd run for thirty yards. You didn't see that,
Like they rallied to the ball they hit. So those
are all, you know, definitely positive things. You know, I
don't like to leave a game where you played well
and point out that what you did wrong in previous games.
(08:27):
But but you know, that's the reality. We're looking at
a small window right now where they played the way
they were supposed to play.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
With the marching Chiefs in the background, we are back
with Irishchafellewarchant dot Com taking some time on Mondays to
talk a little Florida State football. Iras, I'm looking at
the schedule that October. Uh, well, I mean late September,
you got Virginia Miami Pitt Stanford Miami. Yeah, we kind
of got boat race there, but Virginian Pitt. Is it
(08:59):
hard looking back and say at this point those were
bad losses. Florida State shouldn't have lost those games because
it looks to me like we were in those games.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, Virginia is definitely not a bad loss. You know,
you're on the road on a Friday night, on a
short week, playing a team that now is number twelve
in the country, had a six year starting quarterback. You
were playing your first road game. I mean, I think
you're going to double overtime, and it's a game where
even in double overtime, you know, or during that game,
you have a chance to win the game, where you know,
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a touchdowns overturned, and so to me, that game is
not a game you look back and it's a missed opportunity,
But to me, it's not a bad loss. Losing a
Pit to Losing to Pit at home is never good.
And you know, even though they're seven and two right now,
that's a game that you know you're gonna it's you
knows a Florida State fan and what you believe the
sport is and where Florida State should be. You don't
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feel like you should ever lose at home to Pit.
So that's a tough one to swallow. Even though they're
seven and two, they've got a really good quarterback, they're
a good football team. But you know, so those twos aren't.
But yeah, I think to the point you're probably going
to try to make is the Stanford game is completely different, right.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, Yeah, Stanford is the one that you have to
just scratch your head at. And that's really the one
that that is the one that might nag the decision
makers out there or even those that want to just
evaluate Mike Norvell because that's the one game that, under
no circumstances should this Florida State team lose to.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, and especially when it happened, you know, and again,
it would be one thing if you were seven and
to zero and went out to Stanford, who is bad
and they are they're not a good football team. The
week before you played them, they give up thirty four points,
the week after that they give up forty two points.
Then this past week they give up another ton of points.
So they're a bad defense, and they were there to
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get beaten and Florida stays offense just picked that day
to play. It's probably the worst game of the season.
They scored thirteen points, a ton of penalties, ton of
just mistakes and turnovers, just played terribly. And so that's
a game that you know, if you're having a good
season and you sleep walk through that game but then
pull it out at the end, nobody remembers it. A
(11:08):
lot of teams have those kinds of games. But when
you've already lost two games or three games in a
row and you know that you've got to rally around
this coach and this team, and then you go out
there and play like that, it was just really just
not just disappointing, but kind of an indictment on this team. Now,
you did come back, you know, after the bye week,
and you look good again. And if you turn it
(11:29):
around these next few weeks, maybe you can look at
that whole month in a different lens. But as of
right now, yeah, the Stanford game, to me is the
game that's the most inexcusable.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Regardless of who the head coach will be next season,
whether it's coach and Orvel coming back or whether they
go in another direction, what is needed for Florida State
to be in the world of the Ohio states of
the world, And I use Ohio State because they do
not have the biggest nil budget. It's a good one.
It's healthy, they're part of the Big ten, get a
lot of money. But they pick and choose their their
(12:04):
portal recruits very very specifically and carefully. But what they
seem to do better than maybe anybody else is they
get them out of high school and they develop them.
Is that the secret sauce? And what has to happen
for Florida State to get to that territory.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, I think that's where everybody wants to be. The
challenge is if you weren't already there when the portal happened,
it's hard to navigate this and this is the you
know where Florida State though the land mines they've been
walking through for the last four or five years is
you know, Florida State wasn't in the position when Mike
Norvel got hired to just say, you know what, we're
going to take some time and recruit through high schools.
(12:42):
Like he inherited a bad programs. They went heavy in
the portal and was rewarded for that. You went thirteen
to know, you won nineteen straight games, and so from
that standpoint, that felt like the right way to go.
But then you get married to it, and then you
can't get out of it. It's just hard to make
that transition now. I think whatever would whoever you know
and listen, it's even tard for Georgia and some of
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these other teams. They've had a hard time holding on
to the high school for recrus. Mario Christobalt Miami has
gotten a ton of credit for how he's recruited high schools.
They've lost a lot of these guys because what happens
is you sign them, but then if they're not playing early,
or if you bring in portal guys to play, they're
going to leave and go to other schools. So it's
a really tricky thing. I do think from a big
picture standpoint, Florida State really needs to look at what
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they need to do to get back to being great,
and I don't know if the portal's the answer to that.
Maybe there is a way to step back and say,
you know what, these next two years are not going
to be what we want to do. We're going to
play these young guys. We're not going to sign them
and let them transfer out. We're going to give it
some time and try to build for a run in
a couple of years. Otherwise you may just be kind
of stuck in this limbo. But it's easier to say
(13:46):
that than it is to do it, because then you
have to actually take the losses to come with playing
those young guys.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I was just going to ask you, do fans have
the patients for that? Do administrators have the patients for that?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's the tough part, man. A lot of people say
they do until you get into it, and then you
don't want to actually watch the losses. So yeah, it's
it would take a commitment, it would take a you know,
a lot of forethought. But again, it's easy to say
that it's a lot harder when you go to the
city month Saturday. Yeah, and watch your team lose lose
to a bunch of older transfers from another team.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Iras always appreciate the insight. Thanks very much reading what
you do at war chant dot com. Thanks as always,
thanks pressing taking Ira Chaffel, Managing Editor war chant dot com.
When we come back, Ericadonald's will join us with America
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