October 1, 2025 • 16 mins
The Entertainment Editor at Breitbart.com and author of "The 50 Things...: books, Jerome Hudson ,joined Preston to talk Charlie, Jimmy Kimmel Live!, and Bad Bunny (yes, even him).
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Five minutes past the hour. It is the third hour
of the Morning Show with Preston Scott Tuesday on the
radio program. He's Osea. I'm Preston. Great to be with you,
and this is our friend. He is the author of
the Fifty Things books. He is the entertainment editor at
Breitbart dot Com. He is Jerome Hudson Hydrome.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Good morning, my brother.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh? Terrific? Pretty good?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I don't want to play You're sounding a little a
little echoey. I need the dulcet tones a little closer
to your microphone.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Is that better?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's a little better. Okay, tell me. Did you know
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I did get the opportunity to hang out with Charlie
a few times back totay Age at some Turning Point
USA events and then a couple I think there was
a sea pack and some other stuff. But anyway, there
was a presence about him, you know. I think the
(01:18):
first time I met him was twenty nineteen and just
he just hit me with the big, bright smile. I
think I was like introduced as like a bright bart
editor to him, but it didn't seem to matter, Like
he just hit me with that big, bright smile and
just like embraced. You know, he did the handshake and
pulled me in thing, and you know just I mean
(01:42):
the conversation was led by him just asking me what
it's like, you know, covering Hollywood, the entertainment industry at
Bright Bart. Yeah, just incredibly warm every time I bumped
into him. But beyond that, you know, just the people.
My colleagues just had a relationship where they text him
(02:06):
every day. And you know, all the good things you
heard about him just echoed throughout the last few weeks.
You know, it's just all true. It's all true.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So as a black male, you were not shunned or
laughed at, or belittled or called names or told how
stupid you were. You mean, none of that's true.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
No. Actually, I have a I have a colleague who's very,
very Italian who is still distraught. She was one of
the Charlie's first hires after he basically stood up turning
point out of a garage. And uh, I mean, yeah,
those are the times we live in, right, I guess
(02:51):
good people are taken and immediately. Uh. John Stewart's called
it the political gender reveal of our times. Right, It's
just you know, whatever, whatever team you believe you're on,
(03:12):
you you you, whether you're on TV or social media,
doesn't matter. You just you just you just have to
read from the script and say the worst things about
good people, regardless if it's true or not. It's it's unfortunate,
it's sad, it's not necessarily new. But in this case,
it it felt different. You know. Like I said, I
(03:34):
only spent a collective few hours with Charlie over a
six or seven year period, and I was distraught for days.
I haven't cried in years, and I mean I didn't
break down, but I was fighting back tears listening to
my boss, uh, Breitbart's editor in chief Alex Marlow, filling
(03:55):
in for Hugh Hewitt as the news was coming in.
I mean, it is just it was just your heart
breaks repeatedly. Right. But the other side of that coin
is just the revival, that the spiritual awakening that I
think was already happening in this country full of tilt.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Now, before we get to the revival side and the
side that was most important to Charlie, I asked a
lot of people this question, what is worse the assassination
of Charlie Kirk or the reaction by people on the
extreme left to it.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Definitely the latter, because I don't I don't know if
I've ever seen a reaction to a cold blooded murder
such a good man living out the First Amendment on
a college campus where you know, conservatives often need security,
(05:00):
and that's after they jumped through the hurdles of the
administration and the rabbit activists on student activists on campus.
It takes a lot to stand up the organization that
Charlie did, and to do what he was doing on
major in small universities, in these communities, and to be
and to be killed in that manner doing that, and
(05:25):
then to have in the in the moments as we
don't even know if he's alive or dead, people like
you know, Matthew Dowd on MSNBC just making flipped remarks,
but even worse than that, people just dancing on his graves,
celebrating his assassination. There was a little bit of that.
(05:49):
When Andrew Breitbart passed in February twenty twelve. We were
in the social media age, but we had not sort
of accelerated to the to the point where I mean,
just we're talking about school administrators physicians, doctors, teachers, healthcare professionals,
(06:10):
members of the Department of Defense just either outright celebrating
Charlie's death, are saying well, good riddance. You know. The
actor Dwight Route from the office telling on his podcast
telling Mark Ruffalo a story, Rain Wilson says, I went
(06:33):
to a party in Hollywood, and let's just say, some
of my celebrity friends their reaction to Charlie's death was
I'm not shedding any tears. Again, I don't know how
we got to this place exactly, because again, like it
just wasn't like this. Andrew Bidepart was the first to
retweet the left's hate on social media, right to hold
(06:54):
up that mirror and show just how much contempt they
had for ordinary Americans. But this was, this was a
lot worse. But at the same time, you know, sun sun,
sunlight is the best disinfectant, and you certainly don't want
people working in our federal government security agencies who harbor
(07:16):
those feelings. You don't you don't want people who have
the responsibility of giving unbiased treatment healthcare, and you know,
teaching children to have that much hate in their heart.
And I think all of these people signed contracts to
work at these jobs, and I think it's the it's
(07:37):
the duty of an employer to separate that person from
that from their profession and their company.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
We could talk a long time about the reaction to
all of this, the Jimmy Kimmel Live thing, the lack
of apology is outright dishonesty, and his statement, which we
highlighted here. I'd rather take a minute here and get
your thoughts on what's the state means this revival beyond
the Holy Spirit, because Holy Spirit obviously has to have
(08:05):
willing participants. Will will this move be sustained for any
length of time? Do you think?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, I think I think if anything has
happened in the last decade, and you can, you can
you can lay it on you know, Trump or whatever,
you think the impetus was for just sort of a
political awakening that sort of, in my opinion, undergirds a
spiritual awakening that I think was already happening. I just
(08:36):
think that the hunger and the yearning is just there
on a level that can be nothing but celebrated. You know.
I often talk about how it's no accident that so
many of our major and mid size cities in this
country are just overwrought with crime and have these paprological issues,
(09:01):
failing schools, And it's no accident that the common denominator
is those cities are oftentimes run by Democrats, the mayor,
the city council, the county council. But I bet if
you look at those cities also, there is a broken
relationship between the church and the community leaders, and the
(09:22):
church and the political leaders in those cities. And that
is so we're seeing that that relationship be built on
a grassroots level of all places, cities like Chicago, those
people showing up present to those city council meetings, you know,
saying this isn't right. I mean, these people shouldn't even
(09:44):
be in this country, let alone having our tax dollars
be used to subsidize their lifestyles. While we have homeless
people who've just been failed one time after another in
this city, or or even worse, veterans who come back
from theodos of war and fall out of the mainstream,
(10:04):
their their faith leaders leading the charge and and and
and asking for more accountability from their political leadership. And
so it was there, and I think you know, Charlie
didn't want to die, but I think he was prepared
to die. He wanted to save the country, but he
certainly wanted to save souls even more. And I think
(10:27):
in his death, both of those those things will be
done at an even more extraordinary level.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
He is the entertainment editor at Breitbart dot Com, has
been for a long time, but he's been a friend
of mine longer. Jero Mudson with me, and uh, let's
change gears for a second. I learned over the weekend
that the Super Bowl was going to hand over its
(11:01):
halftime show to a guy that doesn't rap in English. Yeah,
a Puerto Rican name Bundy born, Yeah, Benito Jerome. Explain
this to me? Explain what is this because it's in California.
(11:24):
Is this because the NFL just wants to certify its
woke credentials? What the heck?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The first thing is the NFL five years ago was
a nine billion dollar brand. I think it's a fifteen
billion dollar brand today. The NFL, the Shield as it
is referred to, is all about growth. That means having
your first game this year played in Brazil, but you
(11:52):
put the game on YouTube so hundreds of millions of
people can watch it. There are games in Spain now
that they're pursuing. They just played games in Germany and
London last weekend. They've been in London, uh for over
a decade, and so the brand of the NFL is,
bottom line, we are going to grow our audience and
(12:14):
we are going to do it by engaging the Latin America.
We're going to push back against football in Europe and
so bad Bunny the most streamed artists on the planet's Yes,
he is besides having a like hold your hand, Grandpa
(12:36):
and explain this to you.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I mean, no, seriously, what besides having a crappy name?
What what is the is it? Because he's rapping in
Spanish and so many people speak the language, I mean,
what is it? What's what's special about him?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
His music? No, his music sort of has the hints
and notes of reggaeton and salsa, you know, and so
you know he's he's making music that young, old like
a billion people are into and really, yeah, I know
his shows. I mean he does the pyrotechnics, he kisses
(13:13):
men on stage, he wears dresses on Instagram. I mean,
he's hitting every little button.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So he's playing the androgynist thing. He's he's playing the
everything to all people kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Now, I'm told by Francis Martel, bret Part's international editor
that you can't be a Latin pop star and come
all the way out of the closet. So what bat
Bunny's basically doing is queer baiting for clicks and likes
and social acceptance. But Ricky Martin came out, yes, but
(13:47):
he was already fifty five years old and had a
blossoming career. So that's that part of it. But if
you're the NFL you want global domination. You've had Kendrick
lam are the biggest rapper, most streamed rapper. Before that,
you had Rihanna, who's done stadium shows. You know, hadn't
(14:09):
really been popular, hadn't really been putting out a lot
of music in the last few years. But Rihanna, but
she's she's the goat in many many people's eyes. Before that,
you had The Weekend Again, The Weekend did stadium shows.
He's Canadian, he's massively international, and so that and so well,
(14:33):
as long as jay Z is on the board that
that that basically decides who is performing at these halftime shows,
You're going to continue to get this. Now, I will say,
Metallica from San Francisco, not as far as I can tell,
going to be participating in this halftime show. And this
(14:54):
is the second time I think in a decade that
the halftime Super Bowl halftime show has been in San Francis.
Go And I mean, but that's the point though, Like
the NFL looks at Metallican says, are what kind of
audience are they going to drive in? What kind of
new eyeballs are they going to bring to the game.
It's the biggest it's the biggest advertising event of the
(15:16):
year by far, and he's the He's Bad Bunny. You
may not like the name, but people like the music.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Will the super Bowl have the audience Charlie Kirks memorial had.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Wow? I don't think so. I really don't, But you know,
I don't want to let that detract from the fact that,
you know a lot of people were mourning and to
see the Yankees on September tenth, the day he was taken,
honoring him in the way that they did, and then
(15:50):
most of the NFL teams and other MLB teams, international
teams honoring him. Credible. Charlie was in South Korea and Japan.
South Korea two days Japan one day before his his murder.
You know, I mean the guy was loved in all
(16:12):
four corners of the planet. But yeah, I don't I
don't think that's going to happen. But stranger things.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, we'll say good to talk to you, friend, be well,
love you, thank you by love you too. Jerome Hudson
with Me Our Friend. Morning Show with Preston Scott
Five minutes past the hour. It is the third hour
of the Morning Show with Preston Scott Tuesday on the
radio program. He's Osea. I'm Preston. Great to be with you,
and this is our friend. He is the author of
the Fifty Things books. He is the entertainment editor at
Breitbart dot Com. He is Jerome Hudson Hydrome.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Good morning, my brother.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh? Terrific? Pretty good?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I don't want to play You're sounding a little a
little echoey. I need the dulcet tones a little closer
to your microphone.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Is that better?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's a little better. Okay, tell me. Did you know
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I did get the opportunity to hang out with Charlie
a few times back totay Age at some Turning Point
USA events and then a couple I think there was
a sea pack and some other stuff. But anyway, there
was a presence about him, you know. I think the
(01:18):
first time I met him was twenty nineteen and just
he just hit me with the big, bright smile. I
think I was like introduced as like a bright bart
editor to him, but it didn't seem to matter, Like
he just hit me with that big, bright smile and
just like embraced. You know, he did the handshake and
pulled me in thing, and you know just I mean
(01:42):
the conversation was led by him just asking me what
it's like, you know, covering Hollywood, the entertainment industry at
Bright Bart. Yeah, just incredibly warm every time I bumped
into him. But beyond that, you know, just the people.
My colleagues just had a relationship where they text him
(02:06):
every day. And you know, all the good things you
heard about him just echoed throughout the last few weeks.
You know, it's just all true. It's all true.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So as a black male, you were not shunned or
laughed at, or belittled or called names or told how
stupid you were. You mean, none of that's true.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
No. Actually, I have a I have a colleague who's very,
very Italian who is still distraught. She was one of
the Charlie's first hires after he basically stood up turning
point out of a garage. And uh, I mean, yeah,
those are the times we live in, right, I guess
(02:51):
good people are taken and immediately. Uh. John Stewart's called
it the political gender reveal of our times. Right, It's
just you know, whatever, whatever team you believe you're on,
(03:12):
you you you, whether you're on TV or social media,
doesn't matter. You just you just you just have to
read from the script and say the worst things about
good people, regardless if it's true or not. It's it's unfortunate,
it's sad, it's not necessarily new. But in this case,
it it felt different. You know. Like I said, I
(03:34):
only spent a collective few hours with Charlie over a
six or seven year period, and I was distraught for days.
I haven't cried in years, and I mean I didn't
break down, but I was fighting back tears listening to
my boss, uh, Breitbart's editor in chief Alex Marlow, filling
(03:55):
in for Hugh Hewitt as the news was coming in.
I mean, it is just it was just your heart
breaks repeatedly. Right. But the other side of that coin
is just the revival, that the spiritual awakening that I
think was already happening in this country full of tilt.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Now, before we get to the revival side and the
side that was most important to Charlie, I asked a
lot of people this question, what is worse the assassination
of Charlie Kirk or the reaction by people on the
extreme left to it.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Definitely the latter, because I don't I don't know if
I've ever seen a reaction to a cold blooded murder
such a good man living out the First Amendment on
a college campus where you know, conservatives often need security,
(05:00):
and that's after they jumped through the hurdles of the
administration and the rabbit activists on student activists on campus.
It takes a lot to stand up the organization that
Charlie did, and to do what he was doing on
major in small universities, in these communities, and to be
and to be killed in that manner doing that, and
(05:25):
then to have in the in the moments as we
don't even know if he's alive or dead, people like
you know, Matthew Dowd on MSNBC just making flipped remarks,
but even worse than that, people just dancing on his graves,
celebrating his assassination. There was a little bit of that.
(05:49):
When Andrew Breitbart passed in February twenty twelve. We were
in the social media age, but we had not sort
of accelerated to the to the point where I mean,
just we're talking about school administrators physicians, doctors, teachers, healthcare professionals,
(06:10):
members of the Department of Defense just either outright celebrating
Charlie's death, are saying well, good riddance. You know. The
actor Dwight Route from the office telling on his podcast
telling Mark Ruffalo a story, Rain Wilson says, I went
(06:33):
to a party in Hollywood, and let's just say, some
of my celebrity friends their reaction to Charlie's death was
I'm not shedding any tears. Again, I don't know how
we got to this place exactly, because again, like it
just wasn't like this. Andrew Bidepart was the first to
retweet the left's hate on social media, right to hold
(06:54):
up that mirror and show just how much contempt they
had for ordinary Americans. But this was, this was a
lot worse. But at the same time, you know, sun sun,
sunlight is the best disinfectant, and you certainly don't want
people working in our federal government security agencies who harbor
(07:16):
those feelings. You don't you don't want people who have
the responsibility of giving unbiased treatment healthcare, and you know,
teaching children to have that much hate in their heart.
And I think all of these people signed contracts to
work at these jobs, and I think it's the it's
(07:37):
the duty of an employer to separate that person from
that from their profession and their company.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
We could talk a long time about the reaction to
all of this, the Jimmy Kimmel Live thing, the lack
of apology is outright dishonesty, and his statement, which we
highlighted here. I'd rather take a minute here and get
your thoughts on what's the state means this revival beyond
the Holy Spirit, because Holy Spirit obviously has to have
(08:05):
willing participants. Will will this move be sustained for any
length of time? Do you think?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, I think I think if anything has
happened in the last decade, and you can, you can
you can lay it on you know, Trump or whatever,
you think the impetus was for just sort of a
political awakening that sort of, in my opinion, undergirds a
spiritual awakening that I think was already happening. I just
(08:36):
think that the hunger and the yearning is just there
on a level that can be nothing but celebrated. You know.
I often talk about how it's no accident that so
many of our major and mid size cities in this
country are just overwrought with crime and have these paprological issues,
(09:01):
failing schools, And it's no accident that the common denominator
is those cities are oftentimes run by Democrats, the mayor,
the city council, the county council. But I bet if
you look at those cities also, there is a broken
relationship between the church and the community leaders, and the
(09:22):
church and the political leaders in those cities. And that
is so we're seeing that that relationship be built on
a grassroots level of all places, cities like Chicago, those
people showing up present to those city council meetings, you know,
saying this isn't right. I mean, these people shouldn't even
(09:44):
be in this country, let alone having our tax dollars
be used to subsidize their lifestyles. While we have homeless
people who've just been failed one time after another in
this city, or or even worse, veterans who come back
from theodos of war and fall out of the mainstream,
(10:04):
their their faith leaders leading the charge and and and
and asking for more accountability from their political leadership. And
so it was there, and I think you know, Charlie
didn't want to die, but I think he was prepared
to die. He wanted to save the country, but he
certainly wanted to save souls even more. And I think
(10:27):
in his death, both of those those things will be
done at an even more extraordinary level.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
He is the entertainment editor at Breitbart dot Com, has
been for a long time, but he's been a friend
of mine longer. Jero Mudson with me, and uh, let's
change gears for a second. I learned over the weekend
that the Super Bowl was going to hand over its
(11:01):
halftime show to a guy that doesn't rap in English. Yeah,
a Puerto Rican name Bundy born, Yeah, Benito Jerome. Explain
this to me? Explain what is this because it's in California.
(11:24):
Is this because the NFL just wants to certify its
woke credentials? What the heck?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The first thing is the NFL five years ago was
a nine billion dollar brand. I think it's a fifteen
billion dollar brand today. The NFL, the Shield as it
is referred to, is all about growth. That means having
your first game this year played in Brazil, but you
(11:52):
put the game on YouTube so hundreds of millions of
people can watch it. There are games in Spain now
that they're pursuing. They just played games in Germany and
London last weekend. They've been in London, uh for over
a decade, and so the brand of the NFL is,
bottom line, we are going to grow our audience and
(12:14):
we are going to do it by engaging the Latin America.
We're going to push back against football in Europe and
so bad Bunny the most streamed artists on the planet's Yes,
he is besides having a like hold your hand, Grandpa
(12:36):
and explain this to you.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I mean, no, seriously, what besides having a crappy name?
What what is the is it? Because he's rapping in
Spanish and so many people speak the language, I mean,
what is it? What's what's special about him?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
His music? No, his music sort of has the hints
and notes of reggaeton and salsa, you know, and so
you know he's he's making music that young, old like
a billion people are into and really, yeah, I know
his shows. I mean he does the pyrotechnics, he kisses
(13:13):
men on stage, he wears dresses on Instagram. I mean,
he's hitting every little button.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So he's playing the androgynist thing. He's he's playing the
everything to all people kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Now, I'm told by Francis Martel, bret Part's international editor
that you can't be a Latin pop star and come
all the way out of the closet. So what bat
Bunny's basically doing is queer baiting for clicks and likes
and social acceptance. But Ricky Martin came out, yes, but
(13:47):
he was already fifty five years old and had a
blossoming career. So that's that part of it. But if
you're the NFL you want global domination. You've had Kendrick
lam are the biggest rapper, most streamed rapper. Before that,
you had Rihanna, who's done stadium shows. You know, hadn't
(14:09):
really been popular, hadn't really been putting out a lot
of music in the last few years. But Rihanna, but
she's she's the goat in many many people's eyes. Before that,
you had The Weekend Again, The Weekend did stadium shows.
He's Canadian, he's massively international, and so that and so well,
(14:33):
as long as jay Z is on the board that
that that basically decides who is performing at these halftime shows,
You're going to continue to get this. Now, I will say,
Metallica from San Francisco, not as far as I can tell,
going to be participating in this halftime show. And this
(14:54):
is the second time I think in a decade that
the halftime Super Bowl halftime show has been in San Francis.
Go And I mean, but that's the point though, Like
the NFL looks at Metallican says, are what kind of
audience are they going to drive in? What kind of
new eyeballs are they going to bring to the game.
It's the biggest it's the biggest advertising event of the
(15:16):
year by far, and he's the He's Bad Bunny. You
may not like the name, but people like the music.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Will the super Bowl have the audience Charlie Kirks memorial had.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Wow? I don't think so. I really don't, But you know,
I don't want to let that detract from the fact that,
you know a lot of people were mourning and to
see the Yankees on September tenth, the day he was taken,
honoring him in the way that they did, and then
(15:50):
most of the NFL teams and other MLB teams, international
teams honoring him. Credible. Charlie was in South Korea and Japan.
South Korea two days Japan one day before his his murder.
You know, I mean the guy was loved in all
(16:12):
four corners of the planet. But yeah, I don't I
don't think that's going to happen. But stranger things.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, we'll say good to talk to you, friend, be well,
love you, thank you by love you too. Jerome Hudson
with Me Our Friend. Morning Show with Preston Scott
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