August 26, 2025 • 10 mins
Preston was joined by radio and TV host, best-selling author Mark Levin about his latest book.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Cook them on in Friends, Ruminators. Thanks very much for
sharing time with us. We greatly appreciate it. You know
we do. Jose running the program in Studio one A.
I am here in Studio one B, and it is
the Morning show with Preston Scott Show five thirty nine,
enjoining me on the program. Where I had to read
his entire resume, it would take the entire segment, I'll
(00:25):
just simply say. Mark Levin is a radio show host.
He is a host on Fox News of Life, Liberty
and Levin, among many other things, and he's a very
accomplished writer several best sellers, including the current book On Power.
Mark Levin joins us once again, Mark, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
How are you my friend?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm doing terrific. I am always fascinated by what causes
someone to take on a topic, and in the case
of On Power, that is a very difficult topic to
put your arms around. First, what pushed you to do it?
And secondly, how did you get your arms around it?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
That is a great question. My wife says the same thing,
why do you always write books about these tough, tough topics?
And I said, that's the way my brain works. I
can't help it. So this topic. The reason I decided
to write it and get my hands around it is
because I started to really think about what I was hearing,
what I've read over the years. You know, I've got
(01:30):
a massive library my home here as I collect books,
not collect them, but read them and then put them
on the shelf. And I started to think, what is
what is politics? Government, society? What's it all about? Fundamentally,
it's about power, and power determines whether you live in
a free society or whether you live in a tyranny.
(01:51):
Power determines whether your voice is heard in a government
or not. Power determines whether you're free speech or not.
Power determines all of it. And then I went back
and looked at the Revolutionary War what was that about?
Ultimately it was about power, that is, representative government. They
revolted against the monarchy because the monarchy did not listen
(02:12):
to the voices of the people. And then I got
to thinking, Okay, well, really, what is the basis of
our government? We talk about these things, you know, separation
of powers and liberty, and it goes in one ear
and out the other for a lot of people, and
I thought, well, that's not exactly right. That's the endgame.
But what is it about? And it's this when you
(02:34):
go back and look at the founders the Revolution and
the founders, they believed in the sovereignty of God. They
believed in the Judeo Christian belief system. That doesn't mean
everyone else has to believe in it, but they did,
and they believe God was sovereign. And when you read
the Declaration, God is mentioned in different iterations, four different
(02:54):
times in a document that is declaring why we're revolting
and why did they do that? Well, God is the
sovereign and his children on earth. When it comes to
governing and the civil society, they are the sovereign. So
we the people that we talk about, we the people
that are mentioned in our documents, we are the sovereign.
That is where this comes from. And then when you
(03:17):
look at the Constitution, why is it written the way
it's written? Because they took the Declaration and they said,
what kind of government do we set up that creates
this civil society that Locke talked about and yet respects
the sovereignty of the individual and the community of individuals.
And they looked at the Enlightenment and so our founding
(03:39):
and our government is a fusion of this Judeo Christian
belief system and the Enlightenment. And what did the Enlightenment
tell them? Among other things, that told them the power
needs to check power, power needs to check power. With
the Enlightenment came the whole idea of Western democracy and
so forth. So I talk about this word power, I
(04:01):
break it down into a positive power and a negative power,
and then I compare it to Marxism and Islamism. Art
is am Americanism is the fusion of the sovereign in
this belief system, our faith with the Enlightenment. Marxism rejects
(04:21):
our faith, rejects all faith, it's just coercion. And Islamism
is the fusion of a very radical view of Islam
and coercion. And I go through it and break it
down and applied to the language liberty and rights, that
sort of.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Thing, carving out time, very busy schedule. Mark Levin with
us the book on power. Mark, how did you end
up arriving at the chapters you did and tackling the
different iterations of power that you write of, because it's
(05:01):
expressed in so many different ways, so many different levels
of humanity, society and government in the world and in
our history. What led you to this particular set of.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Topics, No pression. It sounds to me like you've written
a book or books, because this is what goes through
your head. Actually, this is very interesting. You raise these questions. Well,
first of all, you have to decide what you want
to prioritize, and then you have to decide what you're
not going to expand on, because you know the book
could be a thousand pages long. And I decided in
(05:37):
this book in particular, I wanted it to be very
concise and readable and understandable, and you have to take
on these very tough topics. And even at the end
of the book, I say, look, I could have written
about power and immigration, power and equality, power, this, that
and the other. But this is really a journey of
the mind. And so I write about power and language,
power and rights and power and liberty. I bought off
(05:58):
the what I think of the Time Office chunks and
I explain, among other things, that liberty without rights means nothing,
and rights without power mean nothing. And I explain in
the book. And you look at the Stalins Constitutional in
nineteen thirty six. It's brilliant he steals from our Bill
of rights, it even goes beyond it. And yet the
(06:19):
next year he was slaughtering the Ukrainians. He slaughter at
about seven to eight million Ukrainians. So what is that
all about? And what that's all about is what I
call the the use of language and a negative language
to support negative power. And I also explain that, you know,
rights without power power, the people in this case mean nothing.
(06:41):
And I try to compare those and explain those. And
I also explain in the book it's not all philosophy,
it's not all ancient history, it's not all American history.
I bring it to today. The Democrat Party believes in
an authoritarian democracy. And I know that sounds odd, but
it's true, which means they basically go through the process
of voting, and they go through the process of judging
(07:04):
and all the rest of it. But they're in favor
of centralized power. They reject the whole notion of the
American founding that God is the sovereign and therefore the
people of the sovereign. And so this is why they
created this massive bureaucracy at the fourth branch of government
that's not in the constitution. This is why they rely
on these trial courts and judges. If they win elections, great,
(07:26):
they try to make permanent changes to our system. If
they lose elections, they turn to the permanent party government.
So they're into what I call soft negative power. They
are the progeny of marx I wrote a book called
American Marxism. I don't need to get into that, and
then I said, we we spend our battle trying to
(07:46):
preserve individual liberty and the separation of power. So it's
a completely different mindset. Our viewpoint is completely opposite of
the view of the left, that is, the Democrats, or
the Marxists or the Islamists, and they are absolutely incompatible.
And I explained this is the battle of our time.
(08:07):
Their ideology which seeks to twist and turn our society
and culture inside out, and our belief system, which is
based in our founding and our constitution.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Mark I look at the makeup of Congress and some
of the newer elected members of Congress that are Republicans
that seem to have that ethos, that ideal of what
America was founded to be really part of their personal creed.
Are there enough conservative Republicans and are there enough citizens
(08:41):
of this country that are taking ownership of the apologetic
to advance it and to secure our future.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, here's the thing. When I write a book, I
don't know the answer to those questions. I try to
influence the outcomes. I try to I'm on a mission
as an activist. I'm an activist first, a radio host,
an author, and TV guy second, and so my view
is to take these positions, push them out as much
(09:11):
as I can, because I know the media will not.
And that's why I write books. Because there's tens of
millions of us who do, in fact share these values
in these belief systems. I want to encourage people to
learn more about them, to expand on them, to discust
them at the dinner table at church, at synagogue where
they are, to have the Thomas Pains and the Paul
(09:32):
Revers out there to counter what is I believe is
this growing darkness and it's very grave of this Islamist
Marxist ideology. I don't believe there are enough people speaking
out about this. But again, tens of millions of us,
we can circumvent the propaganda from the media and from
(09:54):
politicians and demand of them what we want demand of
our teachers and professors. What we want to push this out.
Whether you're a truck driver, an electrician, a plumber, whether
you're a surgeon or a lawyer, it doesn't matter. These
are ideas that we share as Americans.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Mark, thanks for writing the book and thanks for being you.
I appreciate you very much.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, thank you, brother God bless take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Thank you. Mark Levin with us this morning, and the
book is on Power and you can get up everywhere.
You can go to the bookstores. You can. You can
probably find this book at at Target or Walmart for
that matter. Okay, maybe not Target, but Barnes and Nobles
Books a million Amazon of course, and you can you
(10:41):
can order it from Simon and Schuster. Mark Levin our
guest here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott
Cook them on in Friends, Ruminators. Thanks very much for
sharing time with us. We greatly appreciate it. You know
we do. Jose running the program in Studio one A.
I am here in Studio one B, and it is
the Morning show with Preston Scott Show five thirty nine,
enjoining me on the program. Where I had to read
his entire resume, it would take the entire segment, I'll
(00:25):
just simply say. Mark Levin is a radio show host.
He is a host on Fox News of Life, Liberty
and Levin, among many other things, and he's a very
accomplished writer several best sellers, including the current book On Power.
Mark Levin joins us once again, Mark, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
How are you my friend?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm doing terrific. I am always fascinated by what causes
someone to take on a topic, and in the case
of On Power, that is a very difficult topic to
put your arms around. First, what pushed you to do it?
And secondly, how did you get your arms around it?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
That is a great question. My wife says the same thing,
why do you always write books about these tough, tough topics?
And I said, that's the way my brain works. I
can't help it. So this topic. The reason I decided
to write it and get my hands around it is
because I started to really think about what I was hearing,
what I've read over the years. You know, I've got
(01:30):
a massive library my home here as I collect books,
not collect them, but read them and then put them
on the shelf. And I started to think, what is
what is politics? Government, society? What's it all about? Fundamentally,
it's about power, and power determines whether you live in
a free society or whether you live in a tyranny.
(01:51):
Power determines whether your voice is heard in a government
or not. Power determines whether you're free speech or not.
Power determines all of it. And then I went back
and looked at the Revolutionary War what was that about?
Ultimately it was about power, that is, representative government. They
revolted against the monarchy because the monarchy did not listen
(02:12):
to the voices of the people. And then I got
to thinking, Okay, well, really, what is the basis of
our government? We talk about these things, you know, separation
of powers and liberty, and it goes in one ear
and out the other for a lot of people, and
I thought, well, that's not exactly right. That's the endgame.
But what is it about? And it's this when you
(02:34):
go back and look at the founders the Revolution and
the founders, they believed in the sovereignty of God. They
believed in the Judeo Christian belief system. That doesn't mean
everyone else has to believe in it, but they did,
and they believe God was sovereign. And when you read
the Declaration, God is mentioned in different iterations, four different
(02:54):
times in a document that is declaring why we're revolting
and why did they do that? Well, God is the
sovereign and his children on earth. When it comes to
governing and the civil society, they are the sovereign. So
we the people that we talk about, we the people
that are mentioned in our documents, we are the sovereign.
That is where this comes from. And then when you
(03:17):
look at the Constitution, why is it written the way
it's written? Because they took the Declaration and they said,
what kind of government do we set up that creates
this civil society that Locke talked about and yet respects
the sovereignty of the individual and the community of individuals.
And they looked at the Enlightenment and so our founding
(03:39):
and our government is a fusion of this Judeo Christian
belief system and the Enlightenment. And what did the Enlightenment
tell them? Among other things, that told them the power
needs to check power, power needs to check power. With
the Enlightenment came the whole idea of Western democracy and
so forth. So I talk about this word power, I
(04:01):
break it down into a positive power and a negative power,
and then I compare it to Marxism and Islamism. Art
is am Americanism is the fusion of the sovereign in
this belief system, our faith with the Enlightenment. Marxism rejects
(04:21):
our faith, rejects all faith, it's just coercion. And Islamism
is the fusion of a very radical view of Islam
and coercion. And I go through it and break it
down and applied to the language liberty and rights, that
sort of.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Thing, carving out time, very busy schedule. Mark Levin with
us the book on power. Mark, how did you end
up arriving at the chapters you did and tackling the
different iterations of power that you write of, because it's
(05:01):
expressed in so many different ways, so many different levels
of humanity, society and government in the world and in
our history. What led you to this particular set of.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Topics, No pression. It sounds to me like you've written
a book or books, because this is what goes through
your head. Actually, this is very interesting. You raise these questions. Well,
first of all, you have to decide what you want
to prioritize, and then you have to decide what you're
not going to expand on, because you know the book
could be a thousand pages long. And I decided in
(05:37):
this book in particular, I wanted it to be very
concise and readable and understandable, and you have to take
on these very tough topics. And even at the end
of the book, I say, look, I could have written
about power and immigration, power and equality, power, this, that
and the other. But this is really a journey of
the mind. And so I write about power and language,
power and rights and power and liberty. I bought off
(05:58):
the what I think of the Time Office chunks and
I explain, among other things, that liberty without rights means nothing,
and rights without power mean nothing. And I explain in
the book. And you look at the Stalins Constitutional in
nineteen thirty six. It's brilliant he steals from our Bill
of rights, it even goes beyond it. And yet the
(06:19):
next year he was slaughtering the Ukrainians. He slaughter at
about seven to eight million Ukrainians. So what is that
all about? And what that's all about is what I
call the the use of language and a negative language
to support negative power. And I also explain that, you know,
rights without power power, the people in this case mean nothing.
(06:41):
And I try to compare those and explain those. And
I also explain in the book it's not all philosophy,
it's not all ancient history, it's not all American history.
I bring it to today. The Democrat Party believes in
an authoritarian democracy. And I know that sounds odd, but
it's true, which means they basically go through the process
of voting, and they go through the process of judging
(07:04):
and all the rest of it. But they're in favor
of centralized power. They reject the whole notion of the
American founding that God is the sovereign and therefore the
people of the sovereign. And so this is why they
created this massive bureaucracy at the fourth branch of government
that's not in the constitution. This is why they rely
on these trial courts and judges. If they win elections, great,
(07:26):
they try to make permanent changes to our system. If
they lose elections, they turn to the permanent party government.
So they're into what I call soft negative power. They
are the progeny of marx I wrote a book called
American Marxism. I don't need to get into that, and
then I said, we we spend our battle trying to
(07:46):
preserve individual liberty and the separation of power. So it's
a completely different mindset. Our viewpoint is completely opposite of
the view of the left, that is, the Democrats, or
the Marxists or the Islamists, and they are absolutely incompatible.
And I explained this is the battle of our time.
(08:07):
Their ideology which seeks to twist and turn our society
and culture inside out, and our belief system, which is
based in our founding and our constitution.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Mark I look at the makeup of Congress and some
of the newer elected members of Congress that are Republicans
that seem to have that ethos, that ideal of what
America was founded to be really part of their personal creed.
Are there enough conservative Republicans and are there enough citizens
(08:41):
of this country that are taking ownership of the apologetic
to advance it and to secure our future.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, here's the thing. When I write a book, I
don't know the answer to those questions. I try to
influence the outcomes. I try to I'm on a mission
as an activist. I'm an activist first, a radio host,
an author, and TV guy second, and so my view
is to take these positions, push them out as much
(09:11):
as I can, because I know the media will not.
And that's why I write books. Because there's tens of
millions of us who do, in fact share these values
in these belief systems. I want to encourage people to
learn more about them, to expand on them, to discust
them at the dinner table at church, at synagogue where
they are, to have the Thomas Pains and the Paul
(09:32):
Revers out there to counter what is I believe is
this growing darkness and it's very grave of this Islamist
Marxist ideology. I don't believe there are enough people speaking
out about this. But again, tens of millions of us,
we can circumvent the propaganda from the media and from
(09:54):
politicians and demand of them what we want demand of
our teachers and professors. What we want to push this out.
Whether you're a truck driver, an electrician, a plumber, whether
you're a surgeon or a lawyer, it doesn't matter. These
are ideas that we share as Americans.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Mark, thanks for writing the book and thanks for being you.
I appreciate you very much.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, thank you, brother God bless take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Thank you. Mark Levin with us this morning, and the
book is on Power and you can get up everywhere.
You can go to the bookstores. You can. You can
probably find this book at at Target or Walmart for
that matter. Okay, maybe not Target, but Barnes and Nobles
Books a million Amazon of course, and you can you
(10:41):
can order it from Simon and Schuster. Mark Levin our
guest here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott
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