June 4, 2025 • 16 mins
The Entertainment Editor with Breitbart.com and the author of "The 50 Things" books, Jerome Hudson called in for his May visit.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
And here we go third and final hour at least
for today at the Morning Show with Preston, Scott, Grant
Allen in for me tomorrow and Monday, I will be
doing a speech tomorrow, I will be delivering remarks. But
great to be with you today, Jose over there in
Studio one A. I am here in Studio one B,
and I am joined on the phone line by our friend.
(00:26):
He is Jerome Hudson. He's the author of the Fifty
Things books as well as entertainment editor for Breitbart dot Com. Hello,
my friend, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh? I'm terrific, just trying to figure out where this
magnificent speech is going down at.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I cannot say on the air at this point in time.
It is a private gathering, but I will share with
you in the break. Hey, we were just talking before
the top of the hour about the WNBA doing a
little investigation of the claim of Angel Reese, who I
(01:04):
find to be a remarkably arrogant, average talented young lady
that has a massive problem with Caitlin Clark and her popularity,
but that she claimed that she was being racially attacked
verbally assaulted at a game in Indiana. But the w
(01:28):
n b A after a thorough investigation interviews, video, audio,
found no corroboration.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Stunning, Well, but but is it?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, I don't know, I I have It's been a
couple of years since I've attended an NBA game, and
I mean you hear just about everything, uh paniply forejoratives
if you will, and but the but the the w
n b A not being able to find evidence of it.
(02:03):
I thought that was interesting because usually when a player
certainly a star, which regardless of what you think of
Angelisi as a star, and that w n b A
is even huh, I agree, yeah, yeah, Usually when a
start makes a complaint and you see this more often
than the NBA, to the league, the ownership, wherever the
(02:27):
game is played, it's a they it's all hands on deck,
and usually they identify the culprit. They're either band for
life or reprimanded in some other way. I so that
was interesting to me. I love this because Caitlin Clark,
(02:47):
I think he is certainly sort of the nexus, the
spark if you will, that lit this fire of just
basically NonStop w n b A talk like the w
nb agment around for decades, but it's never been in
the culturalite guys like this. I love the feuds. I
love I love it for commerce. I think Jacksonville is
(03:09):
getting a w NBA team in a couple of years,
like which is a sentence. I've only been here almost
a decade. I know people who've lived in this town
for forever, and that sentence is just unfathomable and so
but but I love the Angel Reese, uh Caitlin Clark
(03:30):
a few because it does date back to college, you
know what I mean? In that sense, it's sort of uh,
magic bird if you will. But no, I mean, Andrew
Reese is nice, but but she's she just doesn't have
the skill set of Caitlin Clark. And I love that
the media coverage for the both of them is different.
I don't appreciate the racial aspect of it being put in,
(03:54):
but I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And that's what I wanted to I wanted to drill
into that point for a second, and and we'll do that.
We've got to take a break here, but I want
to do that, Jerome. I want to ask if this
story needs to get more coverage for just that reason,
the fact that the claim was made and it has
not been corroborated. We're gonna we're gonna touch on that next.
(04:17):
Jerome Hudson with me, always a fun conversation. We have
no idea what we're talking about until we just start talking,
because that's what friends do, they just start talking. Jerome,
I remember back number of years ago because I would
spend time talking about the claims of racism that were unfounded.
(04:39):
And this goes back to Duke Lacrosse, right, I mean,
this goes back, and they are these constant accusations made,
and frequently, too frequently, they are found to be made
up or if if that perpetrated by the very people
claiming to be racially attacked. And I've always believed that
(05:03):
it denigrates the true racism that needs to be called
out wherever and whenever it exists. So is there a
responsibility on the part of the media to cover the
fact that this claim was made and there is nothing
to it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh that the media coverage should be equal right to
the thorough investigation again yep. And I don't know if
I've seen any conspiracy theories around this. You know, all
of the w NBA's just trying to cover it up
because they want to, you know, protect Caitlin Clark and
(05:43):
make Angel Reeves look like the boogeyman. It is that again,
I haven't seen it, but I'm sure it's probably out there.
It is completely non cypsical. The w n B a
again is on a meteoric rise, I mean the arrow
or the Q score. It's all going straight up. And again,
(06:04):
ader Reese is a star like she's on podcasts's on runways,
d w NBA. It is in the w NBA's interest
to protect its assets.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, it's about time the NBA made some money off
of it, because they've been backrolling this as a I mean,
it's been a lost leader since it started. It hasn't
made any money, and it's showing signs of making some.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I'm just I laugh because there are a lot of nameless,
faceless like sort of non celebrity billionaires who've just who
just I mean, they they would have they would have
gotten more out of just burning the millions of dollars
that they've thrown at this league. But no, it's a
it's an absolute just there's nothing. I mean, I just
(06:48):
for the reasons that she pointed out, like just talking
racism or looking for it behind every tree and under
every rock just does us no good as a society large.
And the fact that this, like she claimed that racial
epithets were her old at her, makes it a race story,
(07:13):
which I just just it's just gross to me, right, Like,
I don't even really feel comfortable talking about it, because finally,
the league has so much more to offer, right. I
say this as a person who fell in love with
women's basketball. It wasn't pro level, but watching the FSU
women's girls team play, we're talking circle two thousand and eight,
(07:35):
nine to ten. You know, here's my thing. President, Like,
I was showing up to see the boys play, right
because they were kind of on a run those years,
but getting to the games, getting to the men's games
before they started, the women were playing, and it just
felt like a completely different sport almost, to see the
(07:57):
women compete like that. And so I I love, you know,
for for for deeper reasons, to see the w n
B a thrive. I just hate that it sort of
has this this weird specter over it because I know
people want to see the feud singing Clark uh and
Read and rees, but the Rachel stuff just well.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Some want to see the feud.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I just want them to just play basketball, and and
and for the w n b A, and for some
of these girls to realize that the rising tide of
the w n b A is due to Caitlin Clark
and they should be grateful and accepting and then compete
like crazy to beat her.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah. No, we we we don't. We don't deserve nice things.
I think is a is a long running beame. It's
like one of the longest memes out there, you know,
or what is it? Don't let a gift horses the mouth?
We get we we have these true talents that come
(09:05):
from around every now and then, and for a lot
of reasons. I mean, sports is just different, right, Like
I mean, you just it's inherently tribal, I guess. And
so I don't have a dog in the race, which
is why, like I'm I think I'm coming at it
from the same place you're coming at it. This is
just we should just enjoy this, this greatness, I.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Agree or not, right, I just want to be embraced
in the NBA where I've got a shot at making
a team.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So Alexander Marlow, the Bretbart News Entertainment editor in chief,
he wants like a d one basketball team Preston to
just put a bunch of dudes in wigs and just
just run the table there in the in the women's
college champions I just want, but basically.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I just want fair rep presentation in all sports of
white old males. Twenty two past the Hour, JOm Hudson
Brightbart dot Com entertainment editor. We never ever have enough time.
The only chance we're going to ever have enough time
(10:19):
is if you just come back into town and we
just sit in the studio and.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Talk yes, yes, which will happen certainly, God will will.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
You say that to all the talk show hosts. I think.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's see your phone.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Your phone broke. Your phone broke down right then when
I said.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
That, And so I didn't catch what you said because
I don't think God wanted you to say that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, it was it true. I just remember to have
a standing date on Tuesday morning with the Liz Cowily
show out in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and they've been
trying to get me in person to do a show.
So so you.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Just backhandedly told me you're seeing another talk show host.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well, oh my goodness. I did two dadits Thursday and
Friday last week man.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Just stab me, buddy, Just go ahead and take out them,
Just drive it in and twist it. Hey, let me
ask you this. How is it possible that Jean Paul
Gautier mm hmm hires a dude to sell women's perfume?
(11:37):
And we're not talking about a guy dressed as a man,
who's who's walking through a room and tries to discern
what is that scent? Right, We're talking about someone pretending
to be a woman.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
How is this possible?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
How is it that women are not just fuming at this?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I think there is that. I think there's a part
of society. I've had questions with countless women, and the
responses vary. Right, there's confusion because if you're a woman
in you know, a lot of them are millennials, right,
so like born basically mid eighties. This is this you're
(12:21):
still processing this because you know, a transgender person was
sort of a thing that comedians joked about or or
they played them on TV. Jamie Fox on and Living Color,
Martin Lawrence on his shows you know what's his name? Witherspoon,
(12:44):
the comedian back to the sixties and seventies, you know,
like cross dressing, was it it was like transvestite was
a person who really took it seriously. And so this
is still a phenomenon newly to just normal regular women
out there, but for industry, for corporations, this is a
big money grab. I mean, to be transgender, to be
(13:04):
a transgender model, which Jean Paul Gaultier hired. It's a
cottage industry and it's I can't believe I'm about to
say this, but it's a growth market.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
No and no, no, Look, I don't want it to
be true, but you have to face facts like there
there's a s section of society.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
But who is going to buy this perfume for a
woman sold by a man.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's that's not the question that I think these high
powered attorneys and accountants and pr flax are asking press
and I think they're asking who won't buy this this
this perfume? Who would have otherwise bought it anyway if
we if we hired I don't know Serena Williams.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Did they did? They not look at what happened to
bud Light. Now I understand that bud Light is it.
I mean, we're talking about reaching out to men versus women, right, and.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's a completely different product. Right, it's a it's American
college rush.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Beer, but it's a dude selling a women's perfume by
pretending to be a woman.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So so so, Dylan mulvaney is maybe a part of
this campaign. It's unclear. I haven't really completely dug into
it with my OGAI RESEARCHERR Brain, but Dylan mulvaney has
at least attached himself to Gean Gultierra and this perfume.
(14:35):
But I'm just, I'm just I'm just telling you right,
Like most of the people listening to us right now
don't get it. They don't understand it. But what I'm
telling you is that major corporations have run the numbers
and it is advantageous. Levi's just rolled out their Pride
Month gene set like I have. I've had this thing.
(14:59):
We have two editor calls every day at break part
and I'm just when I talk about the Pride stuff
and the LGBTQ pregnant man emoji stuff, I preface it
by saying I have some Pride Month every month content,
because that is that's just the way I look at it.
No one listening to me has to see it that way.
(15:21):
But I'm sort of an always on News Knows entertainment editor,
and so I'm either always looking for this stuff or
it's always finding me. And it's Pride Month every.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Month, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Whatever, Get on board, baby, No, no, I will not
get on board. I will never ever, in fact, in fact,
I will go. I will go so far as to say,
I can promise you those letters are in are in
the Book of Revelation.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Just saying all right, buddy, love you pal, thanks for
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I love you all right.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Jerome Hudson with us this morning in the Morning Show
with Preston Scott
And here we go third and final hour at least
for today at the Morning Show with Preston, Scott, Grant
Allen in for me tomorrow and Monday, I will be
doing a speech tomorrow, I will be delivering remarks. But
great to be with you today, Jose over there in
Studio one A. I am here in Studio one B,
and I am joined on the phone line by our friend.
(00:26):
He is Jerome Hudson. He's the author of the Fifty
Things books as well as entertainment editor for Breitbart dot Com. Hello,
my friend, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh? I'm terrific, just trying to figure out where this
magnificent speech is going down at.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I cannot say on the air at this point in time.
It is a private gathering, but I will share with
you in the break. Hey, we were just talking before
the top of the hour about the WNBA doing a
little investigation of the claim of Angel Reese, who I
(01:04):
find to be a remarkably arrogant, average talented young lady
that has a massive problem with Caitlin Clark and her popularity,
but that she claimed that she was being racially attacked
verbally assaulted at a game in Indiana. But the w
(01:28):
n b A after a thorough investigation interviews, video, audio,
found no corroboration.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Stunning, Well, but but is it?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, I don't know, I I have It's been a
couple of years since I've attended an NBA game, and
I mean you hear just about everything, uh paniply forejoratives
if you will, and but the but the the w
n b A not being able to find evidence of it.
(02:03):
I thought that was interesting because usually when a player
certainly a star, which regardless of what you think of
Angelisi as a star, and that w n b A
is even huh, I agree, yeah, yeah, Usually when a
start makes a complaint and you see this more often
than the NBA, to the league, the ownership, wherever the
(02:27):
game is played, it's a they it's all hands on deck,
and usually they identify the culprit. They're either band for
life or reprimanded in some other way. I so that
was interesting to me. I love this because Caitlin Clark,
(02:47):
I think he is certainly sort of the nexus, the
spark if you will, that lit this fire of just
basically NonStop w n b A talk like the w
nb agment around for decades, but it's never been in
the culturalite guys like this. I love the feuds. I
love I love it for commerce. I think Jacksonville is
(03:09):
getting a w NBA team in a couple of years,
like which is a sentence. I've only been here almost
a decade. I know people who've lived in this town
for forever, and that sentence is just unfathomable and so
but but I love the Angel Reese, uh Caitlin Clark
(03:30):
a few because it does date back to college, you
know what I mean? In that sense, it's sort of uh,
magic bird if you will. But no, I mean, Andrew
Reese is nice, but but she's she just doesn't have
the skill set of Caitlin Clark. And I love that
the media coverage for the both of them is different.
I don't appreciate the racial aspect of it being put in,
(03:54):
but I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And that's what I wanted to I wanted to drill
into that point for a second, and and we'll do that.
We've got to take a break here, but I want
to do that, Jerome. I want to ask if this
story needs to get more coverage for just that reason,
the fact that the claim was made and it has
not been corroborated. We're gonna we're gonna touch on that next.
(04:17):
Jerome Hudson with me, always a fun conversation. We have
no idea what we're talking about until we just start talking,
because that's what friends do, they just start talking. Jerome,
I remember back number of years ago because I would
spend time talking about the claims of racism that were unfounded.
(04:39):
And this goes back to Duke Lacrosse, right, I mean,
this goes back, and they are these constant accusations made,
and frequently, too frequently, they are found to be made
up or if if that perpetrated by the very people
claiming to be racially attacked. And I've always believed that
(05:03):
it denigrates the true racism that needs to be called
out wherever and whenever it exists. So is there a
responsibility on the part of the media to cover the
fact that this claim was made and there is nothing
to it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh that the media coverage should be equal right to
the thorough investigation again yep. And I don't know if
I've seen any conspiracy theories around this. You know, all
of the w NBA's just trying to cover it up
because they want to, you know, protect Caitlin Clark and
(05:43):
make Angel Reeves look like the boogeyman. It is that again,
I haven't seen it, but I'm sure it's probably out there.
It is completely non cypsical. The w n B a
again is on a meteoric rise, I mean the arrow
or the Q score. It's all going straight up. And again,
(06:04):
ader Reese is a star like she's on podcasts's on runways,
d w NBA. It is in the w NBA's interest
to protect its assets.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, it's about time the NBA made some money off
of it, because they've been backrolling this as a I mean,
it's been a lost leader since it started. It hasn't
made any money, and it's showing signs of making some.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I'm just I laugh because there are a lot of nameless,
faceless like sort of non celebrity billionaires who've just who
just I mean, they they would have they would have
gotten more out of just burning the millions of dollars
that they've thrown at this league. But no, it's a
it's an absolute just there's nothing. I mean, I just
(06:48):
for the reasons that she pointed out, like just talking
racism or looking for it behind every tree and under
every rock just does us no good as a society large.
And the fact that this, like she claimed that racial
epithets were her old at her, makes it a race story,
(07:13):
which I just just it's just gross to me, right, Like,
I don't even really feel comfortable talking about it, because finally,
the league has so much more to offer, right. I
say this as a person who fell in love with
women's basketball. It wasn't pro level, but watching the FSU
women's girls team play, we're talking circle two thousand and eight,
(07:35):
nine to ten. You know, here's my thing. President, Like,
I was showing up to see the boys play, right
because they were kind of on a run those years,
but getting to the games, getting to the men's games
before they started, the women were playing, and it just
felt like a completely different sport almost, to see the
(07:57):
women compete like that. And so I I love, you know,
for for for deeper reasons, to see the w n
B a thrive. I just hate that it sort of
has this this weird specter over it because I know
people want to see the feud singing Clark uh and
Read and rees, but the Rachel stuff just well.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Some want to see the feud.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I just want them to just play basketball, and and
and for the w n b A, and for some
of these girls to realize that the rising tide of
the w n b A is due to Caitlin Clark
and they should be grateful and accepting and then compete
like crazy to beat her.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah. No, we we we don't. We don't deserve nice things.
I think is a is a long running beame. It's
like one of the longest memes out there, you know,
or what is it? Don't let a gift horses the mouth?
We get we we have these true talents that come
(09:05):
from around every now and then, and for a lot
of reasons. I mean, sports is just different, right, Like
I mean, you just it's inherently tribal, I guess. And
so I don't have a dog in the race, which
is why, like I'm I think I'm coming at it
from the same place you're coming at it. This is
just we should just enjoy this, this greatness, I.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Agree or not, right, I just want to be embraced
in the NBA where I've got a shot at making
a team.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So Alexander Marlow, the Bretbart News Entertainment editor in chief,
he wants like a d one basketball team Preston to
just put a bunch of dudes in wigs and just
just run the table there in the in the women's
college champions I just want, but basically.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I just want fair rep presentation in all sports of
white old males. Twenty two past the Hour, JOm Hudson
Brightbart dot Com entertainment editor. We never ever have enough time.
The only chance we're going to ever have enough time
(10:19):
is if you just come back into town and we
just sit in the studio and.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Talk yes, yes, which will happen certainly, God will will.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
You say that to all the talk show hosts. I think.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's see your phone.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Your phone broke. Your phone broke down right then when
I said.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
That, And so I didn't catch what you said because
I don't think God wanted you to say that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, it was it true. I just remember to have
a standing date on Tuesday morning with the Liz Cowily
show out in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and they've been
trying to get me in person to do a show.
So so you.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Just backhandedly told me you're seeing another talk show host.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well, oh my goodness. I did two dadits Thursday and
Friday last week man.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Just stab me, buddy, Just go ahead and take out them,
Just drive it in and twist it. Hey, let me
ask you this. How is it possible that Jean Paul
Gautier mm hmm hires a dude to sell women's perfume?
(11:37):
And we're not talking about a guy dressed as a man,
who's who's walking through a room and tries to discern
what is that scent? Right, We're talking about someone pretending
to be a woman.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
How is this possible?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
How is it that women are not just fuming at this?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I think there is that. I think there's a part
of society. I've had questions with countless women, and the
responses vary. Right, there's confusion because if you're a woman
in you know, a lot of them are millennials, right,
so like born basically mid eighties. This is this you're
(12:21):
still processing this because you know, a transgender person was
sort of a thing that comedians joked about or or
they played them on TV. Jamie Fox on and Living Color,
Martin Lawrence on his shows you know what's his name? Witherspoon,
(12:44):
the comedian back to the sixties and seventies, you know,
like cross dressing, was it it was like transvestite was
a person who really took it seriously. And so this
is still a phenomenon newly to just normal regular women
out there, but for industry, for corporations, this is a
big money grab. I mean, to be transgender, to be
(13:04):
a transgender model, which Jean Paul Gaultier hired. It's a
cottage industry and it's I can't believe I'm about to
say this, but it's a growth market.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
No and no, no, Look, I don't want it to
be true, but you have to face facts like there
there's a s section of society.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
But who is going to buy this perfume for a
woman sold by a man.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's that's not the question that I think these high
powered attorneys and accountants and pr flax are asking press
and I think they're asking who won't buy this this
this perfume? Who would have otherwise bought it anyway if
we if we hired I don't know Serena Williams.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Did they did? They not look at what happened to
bud Light. Now I understand that bud Light is it.
I mean, we're talking about reaching out to men versus women, right, and.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's a completely different product. Right, it's a it's American
college rush.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Beer, but it's a dude selling a women's perfume by
pretending to be a woman.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So so so, Dylan mulvaney is maybe a part of
this campaign. It's unclear. I haven't really completely dug into
it with my OGAI RESEARCHERR Brain, but Dylan mulvaney has
at least attached himself to Gean Gultierra and this perfume.
(14:35):
But I'm just, I'm just I'm just telling you right,
Like most of the people listening to us right now
don't get it. They don't understand it. But what I'm
telling you is that major corporations have run the numbers
and it is advantageous. Levi's just rolled out their Pride
Month gene set like I have. I've had this thing.
(14:59):
We have two editor calls every day at break part
and I'm just when I talk about the Pride stuff
and the LGBTQ pregnant man emoji stuff, I preface it
by saying I have some Pride Month every month content,
because that is that's just the way I look at it.
No one listening to me has to see it that way.
(15:21):
But I'm sort of an always on News Knows entertainment editor,
and so I'm either always looking for this stuff or
it's always finding me. And it's Pride Month every.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Month, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Whatever, Get on board, baby, No, no, I will not
get on board. I will never ever, in fact, in fact,
I will go. I will go so far as to say,
I can promise you those letters are in are in
the Book of Revelation.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Just saying all right, buddy, love you pal, thanks for
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I love you all right.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Jerome Hudson with us this morning in the Morning Show
with Preston Scott
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.