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November 5, 2025 16 mins
U.S. Congresswoman Kat Cammack (R-FL.3) joined Preston for another no-holds-barred chat. 
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Spiriting our way through another radio program known as The
Morning Show with Preston Scott. Common sense amplified in your
ears yet again, wherever, however you are listening to us,
Thank you very much for sharing time. We consider it
a privilege, and indeed it is a privilege to share
time with this lady. She is the congressional representative for

(00:26):
Florida's third district. US Congresswoman Kat Camick. Kat, how in
the world are you and your family?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Good morning Greens from Chiley, Washington, DC, our nation's capital,
and we're doing all right.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
How are you doing, Creston, I'm doing well. We missed
our last visit because you were on the left coast.
What's it like visiting the communist Republic of California?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, the crazy part is is that in Orange County alone,
they have more registered Republicans, I think than some states,
just in one county. But they're so outnumbered. They're basically,
you know, in their front lawns in rocks, putting so
os and you know they're doing the smoke signals please

(01:12):
send help. And it's crazy. It is every bit as
bad as you see on TV. We drove through an
ice protest crashed a No King's Rally while we were
out there. We've done all kinds of things. But I
think at the end of the day, and I mean
this legitimately, I think California can be saved. I really

(01:33):
do believe it. And if we can do that, then
anything is possible. I think the Republic has a shot.
But as things go in California, that's kind of how
the rest of the country goes. And so it's important
that we're keeping our eye not just on Florida, of
course in our backyard, but look across the country at
what's happening, because there's so many things that can happen

(01:56):
and impact us if we're not paying attention. So always vigilance.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
We have not spoken since the shutdown really got rolling
here and unfurled. So let me get your thirty thousand
foot view of things and then tag onto that your reaction.
Ted Cruz predicted Sunday on Fox News he thinks the
shutdown will end. The Democrats will vote amazingly, interestingly enough,

(02:22):
coincidentally enough, once the elections end today across the country
that they'll vote to open things back up. So give
me your thoughts on all of it.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
You know, I don't think anyone really knows. Candidly, I
saw a handful of my Democrat colleagues in the House
last night kind of roaming around Capitol Hill. But to
that point, I've also seen an equal number of my
Republican colleagues roaming around the Hill. Of course, I think
today's elections are going to have an impact of where

(02:53):
things go and the outcome of those elections. But we've
heard this since the shutdown. Again, it was Oh, we're
waiting for this moment. Then it was the No King's rally.
Then it was oh, no, we're going to wait for
November one for snap benefits to roll out. At the
end of the day, the only thing that people need
to really understand is that the Democrats, particularly in the Senate,

(03:17):
are willing to starve Americans, and they are willing to
shut down the government, hold hostage the government for a
one point five trillion dollars shakedown with the highlight, the
highlight of the whole thing being free healthcare to the
tune of two hundred million dollars to illegals. That's what
it is. They're willing to put American glass to keep

(03:40):
illegals first. That's what it comes down to, and they
can't run away from their record, and they can't run
away from the fact that they are demanding these things.
It's in black and white, page fifty seven, section twenty
one to forty one, where they are demanding premium healthcare
for illegals. And at the end of the day, they
really can't say that they didn't vote to shut the

(04:03):
government down, that they're keeping the shut it down. They did,
and they're going to have to answer for that. So
it'll be interesting to see.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Kat. I want to pick up on this Obamacare subsidy
issue a little bit more because I've been trying to
remind everybody on this program as often as possible that
this is a problem created in part. If we set
aside the Supreme Court ruling, which was ridiculous that allowed
it in the first place, this is still, if not

(04:32):
the most subsidized healthcare program or program of any kind
that government has out there. It is now the additional
subsidies that we're talking about, which are in the grand
scheme of things minuscule that they're doing this for. And
this was all authored by Democrats. They put the COVID
subsidies in place, they put the expiration date in place.

(04:54):
This is their program, this is their baby. They own
all of this.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I mean, let us not forget that it was
in fact the Democrats that obviously created Obamacare. We all
remember that. And then through the years they have continued
to increase the cost of the program. As healthcare quality
has gone down, access has been more restricted than ever.
And the answer that the Left has is throw more

(05:22):
money at it, Throw more money at a broken program
that perpetuates a sick care system. That's really what it was.
And we said back then, you know, twenty ten, twenty eleven,
twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, all those times you said, this
is just a stepping stone to single payer systems.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Absolutely, this is where they.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Want to head to. They want socialized medicine. And then
they'll always point to Canada. Of course, I always have
to then remind them that Canadians are the ones that
are coming to the United States for their procedures because
they can't get them in Canada. You know, you look
at the UK that everyone has a private plan on
top of their subsidized plan because it is such a
broken system. But the thing is, if you just look

(06:04):
at the politics of what is going on here, because
part of what this shakedown is is four hundred billion
dollars not to people, but to insurance companies. Insurance companies,
by the way, that are making two hundred and thirty
seven percent profits. That's what they logged last year. And
so I cannot anything good conscience vote to throw more

(06:27):
money at a broken system that is literally propped up
by insurance companies that God bless them, they're they're making
an incredible amount of money, and yet premiums are still
going to increase, and so it is something that we
have to get fixed, because single payer isn't the answer.
Throwing money a broken system isn't the answer. There are

(06:49):
real reforms that we could do to bring down those costs,
but the Democrats don't want to hear it because they
would have to admit that Obamacare or the Affordable Care
Act isn't so affordable. It's actually unaffordable, and it's a
broken system with worse outcomes. And they set this whole
thing up. They couldn't make them permanent, the payments, the
subsidies to insurance companies permanent. They set up this deadline.

(07:12):
It's totally artificial and concocted by the Democrats. So this
is a crisis of their own making and they're leaving
it to us to fix it. But we actually have
to get the government hoping in order to do that.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
One of the things we've talked about this morning is
Center for Immigration Studies talked about the numbers of the
illegal immigrants that are on one form of a US
subsidy or another, and they estimates fifty nine percent of
illegal alien led households are using one or more welfare program.
I likened it to break it into your house, taking

(07:44):
up a room in the spare bedroom and using all
of your resources in your home and not being charged
for it. This is absurd what's going on. But yet
we don't see an end to what to me is
low hanging fruit. Just stop giving them benefits. Why are
the Democrats so insistent? Is it the victim class that

(08:06):
they need for voters?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, I mean it makes you this is one of
those things that again you put it all together and
it just kind of makes you cock your head a
little bit and say huh, Because let us not forget
it wasn't too long ago that Nancy Pelosi had made
HR one I believe of the one hundred and seventeenth Congress,
which was the first year that I got in, which
was twenty twenty one, to serve. They made the number

(08:33):
one priority of the Democrat agenda for those two years.
For the one hundred and seventeen Congress. They made before
the Politicians Act hr one, And what it did was
it completely eliminated voter ID in order to vote, no
mention of having to be a citizen. They wanted publicly

(08:54):
funded campaigns, so six to one match, so you and
I would be on the hook to finance AOC or
Bernie Sam campaigns and match small dollar donations. It was
an absolute play in order to make it legal for
non legal individuals to vote. And then you couple that

(09:14):
with open borders and you start to say, well, they've
got the borders wide open, they don't want voter ID,
they're giving away all these programs. What is it that
they're after? And I come back to this time and
time again. This is not a conspiracy and there's not
a single policy that the Left is holding up. It
is a combination of things that add up to one mission,
and that mission is dependency and control. The Left has

(09:36):
always been about growing the size of government to make
people dependent on government programs so that they the big
government program advocates stay in charge. And they started seeing
people waking up around the country with the election of
President Trump and saying, we don't like this big government
thing that tells us how we're going to live our
lives and then make us pay for it. Right, So
they just import their voters and you see it in

(09:59):
states and cities across the country. Dependency and control. That's
what's always been about.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Back with you, as congress Woman Cat Camick, and I
promised discipline, and so I want to stay with a
topic that I know is very important to you, Cat,
and it is something I talked about last week and
it is from zero Hedge, And the question is what
can we do about the agrarian collapse? And the argument

(10:28):
being made is it's you got to support the local farms,
you got to support the farmers' markets, et cetera, et cetera.
But the federal government, whether we like it or not,
has to play a role in saving small farms. And
the question is is there any any discussion in Congress
to help save small farms in this country?

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Who I'm going to try to be as concise as
humanly possible. And if I'm out of breathas because I
was just dancing for the baby, making her smile. So
a couple things here. Yes, the Farm Bill, which happens
every five years, that is a huge part of establishing
certainty in the AG community. The problem is is that
we've got chicken craft politicians that won't advance a bill

(11:13):
that is actually for our producers, for our farmers and ranchers.
They're more concerned about rocking the boat. Because eighty three
percent of the Farm Bill is the SNAP and EDT program.
The nutritional side is married to the actual food production side,
and that is a and that has been a longstanding

(11:35):
thing with the Farm bill. And so there's things within
the Farm Bill that, of course are meant to support
our producers. But when you look at input costs across
the board, you're seeing high diesel, high fertilizer, labor costs,
lack of labor. We aren't at a place where you
can mechanize everything across the board. And the regulatory regime,

(11:57):
the regulatory regime, and this is not just for AG
but the entire economy of the United States, that is
what is going to either make or break us because
as taxpayers were paying two point five trillion dollars every
year in enforcement and compliance of regulations, and those regulations
are strangling us. They are literally crushing us. If we're

(12:18):
going to survive as a republic for the next two
hundred and fifty years, we have to have a major
overhaul of the regulatory regime. That is, in fact, how
you drain the swamp. And in the ag industry, you
have a crushing amount of regulation that make absolutely no sense.
It doesn't make food any safer, it doesn't improve anything. Really,
it's just giving jobs to bureaucrats that are sitting on

(12:40):
their hands. So you have that element. Another part of
it is I dropped a bill called the f FA Act,
a nod to the future farmers of America. The farms
are going under, but what it stands for is farmers
feeding Americans. If you are on snap and EBT and
you're using taxpayer dollars in order to purchase your food,

(13:01):
it should be American food that you're consuming, So not
any of the imported fruits and vegetables from Mexico or
Canada or anywhere else abroad. It should be domestic produced fruits, vegetables,
dairy products, meats, things like that. And when I went
to the USDA to get the data of how much
of the food we're importing is going towards the SNAP programs,

(13:22):
guess what, they wouldn't give it to me. And then
the grocers didn't want to give me that information. And
everyone is up in arms saying we can't do this,
and I'm saying we have to do this because a
nation that can't feed itself is not secure.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Absolutely, it's very close.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
To teetering on the edge of not being able to
feed ourselves because they're all going under.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
At the end of this particular piece, they offer this
Fanny May and Freddie Mack allow first time home buyers
to purchase homes with as little as three percent down.
Veterans can access zero percent down, no mortgage insurance, and
low interest rates. As a society, we've decided that helping
families in veterans is worth supporting with government backed loans.

(14:03):
Why don't we have a product like this for farmland.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's one of the things that I've been meeting with
a lot of young farmers around not just our state,
but the country. It is virtually impossible to compete now
with the high price of land because the final crop
in Florida is looking more and more like it's going
to be a housing development. Right, We've got multi generational

(14:29):
family operations where one of the kids is now turning
into a real estate agent or a broker and selling
off pieces of the family farm. Because why wouldn't you
do that when you can get fifty thousand an acre
for a developer from a developer versus all the input
costs and labor just to break even or even take
a loss if you are going to farm that acre.

(14:53):
It's a sad state of affairs. But I agree with you.
We have to do something pretty radical if we're going
to turn this around. And I do think you're one
hundred percent right, there needs to be some acknowledgment and
adjustment in the program. I don't want more money going
towards spending on this because we just crossed over into
the thirty eight trillion dollars threshold of national debts. But

(15:15):
we should be able to reshuffle and make it so
that there is a way for young farmers and ranchers
to actually purchase farmland and make it productive. Right, they
have to actually they have to put it into production.
But it should be a lot easier than it is now,
because right now it is virtually impossible.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
You're the best, Kat, Thanks very much, and I hope
we'll get a chance to talk again this month. If not,
Happy Thanksgiving, appreciates.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
It so much. Happy Thanksgiving and appreciate the time as always.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Thank you. Kat Camick with US US Congress Wring from
third Congressional District of the Sunshine State, our guest twice monthly. Again,
we're hoping for another visit this month, but sometimes things happen,
so we'll have to see how the month unfolds. It's
The Morning Show with Preston Scott m
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