December 15, 2025 • 13 mins
As always, Florida's 3rd district Representative to Congress speaks her mind. A terrific visit!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're doing great. It's a rainy day up here on
Capitol Hill, but we've got a three week sprint to
get a lot of stuff done. And then the docket
is full, whether it is appropriations, whether it is name,
image and likeness, nil, the big package that everyone's been
(00:22):
talking about in college sports. If you're watching college sports,
which of course is a good Southerner, of course you
are on Saturday. What else are you doing? You've seen
the advertisements for the Score Act. And then of course
we've got today and next week a lot and this
is in my Committee of Jurisdiction, a lot dealing with
online safety for kids. And so we've got a full
(00:46):
plate on our hands up here.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Preston, this is Congress when Kat camra Kat.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We haven't had a legitimate budget in this country for
the government since the mid nineties, I think it is.
And there's not a business on the planet that could
operate that way, And I guess that explains why we
are where we are financially in our country as far
as the government.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, I mean, I would say thirty years, I believe
is the actual number that we have gone without putting
forward a budget and then subsequently appropriating all twelve of
the appropriations, and just for everyone's refresher, we're going to
take everybody back to Civics class. You have a budget
(01:30):
that is passed out of the Budget Committee in the House,
and then you have twelve appropriations that cover everything. Now,
the trick here is you have the authorizing Committee, So
in order for something to technically be appropriated, you have
to have it authorized by Congress. Well, we've got a
mess because we've never done all twelve appropriations and not
(01:52):
well thirty years and currently you have about nine hundred
billion dollars eight hundred and ninety two billion to be exact,
that has not been authorized by Congress. But for years
under these crs, they continue to get appropriated, and so
there's a huge push amongst US fysical conservatives. We want
(02:12):
all of these programs to be audited, go line by line,
and we want to have a real budgeting, appropriation and
authorization process put forward. That's what we're fighting for and
we've been fighting for. It's going to be a real
fight because government funding runs out on January thirtieth, and
(02:32):
we're still in this doom loop of crs and omnibuses,
and it's got to end because our children, little baby Aggie,
every child, every kid under the age of eighteen today
has five hundred thousand dollars of national debt on their
shoulders as a result of this broken process. So that's
why it's so important.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We know Democrats are going to oppose this because they
don't have and I'm going to be charitable as I
say this, Kat, Democrats don't understand economics.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
They just don't.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Every community, virtually, sorry, every community run by Democrats in
this country is in a fiscal tailspin. So who's blocking
this on the Republican side.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well, the thing that you find out when you get
up here is that there really aren't Republicans and Democrats. Right.
You have the Party of big Government, and then you
have the Party of little government. Okay, some people call
it the Uni Party. I'm agnostic to that term, honestly,
because it really comes down to something much simpler for me,
which is, either you believe as an individual that you
(03:37):
can be responsible for yourself and your family and you
don't want government interfering in your life. You want low taxes,
less interference, or you think that the government should be
supplying all these programs and things, right, little government versus
big government and the parties. They tend to ebb and
flow in between these titles, and so I think it's
the people who have been here the longest who In
(03:59):
a cross example was yesterday I was having a conversation
with a colleague and they said, Kat, you just don't understand.
This is how it's always been done. And I said,
and that is exactly why Congress has a fourteen percent
approval rating. People would rather go get a colonoscopy than
deal with Congress because y'all don't do anything. You don't
do your jobs. You run roughshot with people's money and
(04:21):
their livelihoods, and you treat it like monopoly money. And
I'm sick of it. And that's what we're fighting for.
In fact, today I have to go testify. I don't
say I have. I get to go testify because I'm
very excited about this in front of the Budget Committee
on some ideas that we have about bringing down our
national debt, things like a structured debt repayment plan, and
(04:43):
why we should go to zero based budgeting because we don't.
We do the opposite, We don't zero based budget and
why we need to authorize these programs before we put
money into them. It's just common sense we should be
auditing these programs and we're not, and it's frustrating. And
this is where the American people, knowing the process and
how it's done and how it's not done, sometimes that's
(05:05):
the difference maker, because then we the people can demand
change and we can push our leaders in Washington to
actually help get a budget and a process finished and
across the finish line.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
US congress Women Kat Camick with me. Cat stand by,
folks listening on iHeartRadio all over the country, call your
congressional representative, tell them to support the idea of you know,
this zero based budgeting, the auditing, the appropriations process.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Be amazing. What would happen?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Okay, you can just imagine how that conversation in the
break went. She is a big Florida Gator fan, and
obviously Florida played Florida State over the weekend, and of
course I'm a Florida State fan, and all of our
teams are on the bench the rest of the football season,
and we both bask and misery, but they're not quite
(05:58):
as miserable as we are because they and so Kat
and I were having that discussion, but.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You know what, you were a great sport and I
like to think that I was an okay sport about it.
Let's be honest. The game was like a race to
see who was going to be second worst. You know,
it was a fun game and it was it was
great that we ended the Gators. We the Gators, the collective.
We ended on a high note. But yeah, if we
(06:28):
lost to Florida State, that would have really put a
damper on on things for us.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Now, now, now listen to this cat. This is a
professional radio segue. If you've ever heard when you're ready
speak speaking of the swamp hr one, you're going to
go to bat and try to get it done in
the swamp.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yes, yeah, so you you tied me up perfectly on
this question. Today I will be testifying in the Budget Committee,
well simultaneously in another committee here. It's amazing how we
schedule up here. It's like, you know, we think we
can spend time. And I am going to be pushing
for Congress to reauthorize all of the programs and agencies
(07:14):
before they receive money. And I know that's a novel
idea and it's probably the least sexy topic that we
could be talking about. But here's why it's important. And
you had mentioned this earlier. Everyone listening, call your representatives
and ask them to support co sponsor HR one p
forty three, the USA Act, the Unauthorized Spending Accountability Act.
And again, the reason why this is so important is
(07:37):
because on autopilot, all of the crs, all the omnibuses,
all the things that Congress keeps doing, just exactly what
it's doing. We will spend. We the people will. We'll
out of our tax dollars, fund eight hundred and ninety
two billion with a B dollars of unauthorized programs and agencies,
(07:57):
and it'll just come out of our pockets like nothing happen.
And here's the scary part. You've got agencies like the
EPA never authorized by Congress. There's so many pet projects
that have been created that have never had an audit,
Congress never approved them, and they're still getting funding. And
I don't know about you, but whether you're Republican or Democrat,
(08:19):
you should care about where your tax dollars are going.
And you would hope that somebody somewhere has got some
oversight on them. And so HR one three, the USAC,
this will fundamentally change how Congress operates. And at the
end of the day, that's what I am in Washington
to do, disrupt the status quo and drain the swamp
(08:40):
and put power back in the hands of we the people.
This does just that because it holds people accountable to
the programs that they're funding. And so while it is
not the sexiest work, it is very important work. And
this is what can help us get on track to
keep us a republic for the next two hundred and
fifty years.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Kat Horn, A foundation for a house isn't sexy. It
doesn't make the house look pretty, but it allows the
house to stand. And what you're talking about here is
critical infrastructure type stuff that I mean when you said EPA,
the EPA is an agency that has no congressional authorization.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Nope, it has never been officially authorized or approved by Congress.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Roughly how many such agencies departments do we have that
have never been authorized and we're spending.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Money for.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
One thousand, two hundred and sixty four good yeah, yeah,
one two hundred and sixty four programs and agencies have
no congressional authorization. In fact, forty nine percent of all
of the funding that government does expired over a decade ago,
(09:57):
and the oldest was nineteen eight that last got any
sort of look.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
At Doesn't that make these organizations illegal?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You would think. But if they're illegal, why are we
sending money to them? And that's where the courts are like, well,
you guys keep sending money to these what do you
want us to do? And the last thing that we
need is more activist judges, right, yeah, because Congress, we
set our own rules and we're violating our own rules,
and so we have to do the work of holding
(10:31):
Congress accountable. And nobody up here in Washington wants to
take a look at cleaning house. That's why it's such
a fight for us to tackle the regulatory regime and
you know, do background checks for members of Congress and
their staff, Like nobody wants this accountability. They don't. But
(10:52):
it's it's really sad because I think if they if
they were forced to actually play by the book book,
no insider trading, background checks, no dual citizenship, things like this. Yep,
if we were forcing members to do it, the trust
would slowly start to be rebuilt in the system in
(11:13):
our government. And I think a healthy amount of skepticism
is always good, but when you've got a fourteen percent
approval rating on a good day, that's a sign that
you're not doing things in the best interest of the people.
And so we've got it. Like I say, it goes
back to longevity, and are we going to be a
republic for the next two hundred and fifty years? Not
at this rate. Certainly the physical situation will answer that
(11:36):
for us. But if we want to continue to be
this wild, crazy experiment in freedom, we have to start
cleaning up the house in HR one forty three. It's
one of the big important steps we've got to take.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Kat you got to get on Fox, even though we
talked about the limitations of television, but you also have
to get on Glenn, and you've got to get on
Clay and Buck, and you've got to get on Sean,
and you got to get on Mark Levin.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You need to be beaten the bushes on this because
this is really good. I'm proud of you. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Thanks, well, I will be on I'll be on Harris
Faulkner today at eleven o'clock. Okay out, okay, This and
a bunch of other things. And Lord knows. I try
to do as much media talking about these issues as possible,
but man, we really need the people. Like this is
where the power of the people is so important. Call
your representatives because there's nothing that a chicken crat politician
(12:25):
fears more than when their constituents start lighting up their
phone lines and saying, Hey, I want you to sponsor
this bill, Hey, please sponsor this bill. They all of
a sudden start paying attention because they're thinking reelection, right,
and so that's where I need the people's help.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Kat, you're the best.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Hopefully we'll talk again in a couple of weeks before
the Christmas break, but if not, Merry Christmas and thank
you for all you're doing.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Hey, appreciate you more than you know. Everybody, have a great,
great holiday. If I don't see you or talk to
you before then, and make God continue to bless these
United States.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Kat Cammick with us this morning on the Morning Show.
We're doing great. It's a rainy day up here on
Capitol Hill, but we've got a three week sprint to
get a lot of stuff done. And then the docket
is full, whether it is appropriations, whether it is name,
image and likeness, nil, the big package that everyone's been
(00:22):
talking about in college sports. If you're watching college sports,
which of course is a good Southerner, of course you
are on Saturday. What else are you doing? You've seen
the advertisements for the Score Act. And then of course
we've got today and next week a lot and this
is in my Committee of Jurisdiction, a lot dealing with
online safety for kids. And so we've got a full
(00:46):
plate on our hands up here.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Preston, this is Congress when Kat camra Kat.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We haven't had a legitimate budget in this country for
the government since the mid nineties, I think it is.
And there's not a business on the planet that could
operate that way, And I guess that explains why we
are where we are financially in our country as far
as the government.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, I mean, I would say thirty years, I believe
is the actual number that we have gone without putting
forward a budget and then subsequently appropriating all twelve of
the appropriations, and just for everyone's refresher, we're going to
take everybody back to Civics class. You have a budget
(01:30):
that is passed out of the Budget Committee in the House,
and then you have twelve appropriations that cover everything. Now,
the trick here is you have the authorizing Committee, So
in order for something to technically be appropriated, you have
to have it authorized by Congress. Well, we've got a
mess because we've never done all twelve appropriations and not
(01:52):
well thirty years and currently you have about nine hundred
billion dollars eight hundred and ninety two billion to be exact,
that has not been authorized by Congress. But for years
under these crs, they continue to get appropriated, and so
there's a huge push amongst US fysical conservatives. We want
(02:12):
all of these programs to be audited, go line by line,
and we want to have a real budgeting, appropriation and
authorization process put forward. That's what we're fighting for and
we've been fighting for. It's going to be a real
fight because government funding runs out on January thirtieth, and
(02:32):
we're still in this doom loop of crs and omnibuses,
and it's got to end because our children, little baby Aggie,
every child, every kid under the age of eighteen today
has five hundred thousand dollars of national debt on their
shoulders as a result of this broken process. So that's
why it's so important.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We know Democrats are going to oppose this because they
don't have and I'm going to be charitable as I
say this, Kat, Democrats don't understand economics.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
They just don't.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Every community, virtually, sorry, every community run by Democrats in
this country is in a fiscal tailspin. So who's blocking
this on the Republican side.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well, the thing that you find out when you get
up here is that there really aren't Republicans and Democrats. Right.
You have the Party of big Government, and then you
have the Party of little government. Okay, some people call
it the Uni Party. I'm agnostic to that term, honestly,
because it really comes down to something much simpler for me,
which is, either you believe as an individual that you
(03:37):
can be responsible for yourself and your family and you
don't want government interfering in your life. You want low taxes,
less interference, or you think that the government should be
supplying all these programs and things, right, little government versus
big government and the parties. They tend to ebb and
flow in between these titles, and so I think it's
the people who have been here the longest who In
(03:59):
a cross example was yesterday I was having a conversation
with a colleague and they said, Kat, you just don't understand.
This is how it's always been done. And I said,
and that is exactly why Congress has a fourteen percent
approval rating. People would rather go get a colonoscopy than
deal with Congress because y'all don't do anything. You don't
do your jobs. You run roughshot with people's money and
(04:21):
their livelihoods, and you treat it like monopoly money. And
I'm sick of it. And that's what we're fighting for.
In fact, today I have to go testify. I don't
say I have. I get to go testify because I'm
very excited about this in front of the Budget Committee
on some ideas that we have about bringing down our
national debt, things like a structured debt repayment plan, and
(04:43):
why we should go to zero based budgeting because we don't.
We do the opposite, We don't zero based budget and
why we need to authorize these programs before we put
money into them. It's just common sense we should be
auditing these programs and we're not, and it's frustrating. And
this is where the American people, knowing the process and
how it's done and how it's not done, sometimes that's
(05:05):
the difference maker, because then we the people can demand
change and we can push our leaders in Washington to
actually help get a budget and a process finished and
across the finish line.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
US congress Women Kat Camick with me. Cat stand by,
folks listening on iHeartRadio all over the country, call your
congressional representative, tell them to support the idea of you know,
this zero based budgeting, the auditing, the appropriations process.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Be amazing. What would happen?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Okay, you can just imagine how that conversation in the
break went. She is a big Florida Gator fan, and
obviously Florida played Florida State over the weekend, and of
course I'm a Florida State fan, and all of our
teams are on the bench the rest of the football season,
and we both bask and misery, but they're not quite
(05:58):
as miserable as we are because they and so Kat
and I were having that discussion, but.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You know what, you were a great sport and I
like to think that I was an okay sport about it.
Let's be honest. The game was like a race to
see who was going to be second worst. You know,
it was a fun game and it was it was
great that we ended the Gators. We the Gators, the collective.
We ended on a high note. But yeah, if we
(06:28):
lost to Florida State, that would have really put a
damper on on things for us.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Now, now, now listen to this cat. This is a
professional radio segue. If you've ever heard when you're ready
speak speaking of the swamp hr one, you're going to
go to bat and try to get it done in
the swamp.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yes, yeah, so you you tied me up perfectly on
this question. Today I will be testifying in the Budget Committee,
well simultaneously in another committee here. It's amazing how we
schedule up here. It's like, you know, we think we
can spend time. And I am going to be pushing
for Congress to reauthorize all of the programs and agencies
(07:14):
before they receive money. And I know that's a novel
idea and it's probably the least sexy topic that we
could be talking about. But here's why it's important. And
you had mentioned this earlier. Everyone listening, call your representatives
and ask them to support co sponsor HR one p
forty three, the USA Act, the Unauthorized Spending Accountability Act.
And again, the reason why this is so important is
(07:37):
because on autopilot, all of the crs, all the omnibuses,
all the things that Congress keeps doing, just exactly what
it's doing. We will spend. We the people will. We'll
out of our tax dollars, fund eight hundred and ninety
two billion with a B dollars of unauthorized programs and agencies,
(07:57):
and it'll just come out of our pockets like nothing happen.
And here's the scary part. You've got agencies like the
EPA never authorized by Congress. There's so many pet projects
that have been created that have never had an audit,
Congress never approved them, and they're still getting funding. And
I don't know about you, but whether you're Republican or Democrat,
(08:19):
you should care about where your tax dollars are going.
And you would hope that somebody somewhere has got some
oversight on them. And so HR one three, the USAC,
this will fundamentally change how Congress operates. And at the
end of the day, that's what I am in Washington
to do, disrupt the status quo and drain the swamp
(08:40):
and put power back in the hands of we the people.
This does just that because it holds people accountable to
the programs that they're funding. And so while it is
not the sexiest work, it is very important work. And
this is what can help us get on track to
keep us a republic for the next two hundred and
fifty years.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Kat Horn, A foundation for a house isn't sexy. It
doesn't make the house look pretty, but it allows the
house to stand. And what you're talking about here is
critical infrastructure type stuff that I mean when you said EPA,
the EPA is an agency that has no congressional authorization.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Nope, it has never been officially authorized or approved by Congress.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Roughly how many such agencies departments do we have that
have never been authorized and we're spending.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Money for.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
One thousand, two hundred and sixty four good yeah, yeah,
one two hundred and sixty four programs and agencies have
no congressional authorization. In fact, forty nine percent of all
of the funding that government does expired over a decade ago,
(09:57):
and the oldest was nineteen eight that last got any
sort of look.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
At Doesn't that make these organizations illegal?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You would think. But if they're illegal, why are we
sending money to them? And that's where the courts are like, well,
you guys keep sending money to these what do you
want us to do? And the last thing that we
need is more activist judges, right, yeah, because Congress, we
set our own rules and we're violating our own rules,
and so we have to do the work of holding
(10:31):
Congress accountable. And nobody up here in Washington wants to
take a look at cleaning house. That's why it's such
a fight for us to tackle the regulatory regime and
you know, do background checks for members of Congress and
their staff, Like nobody wants this accountability. They don't. But
(10:52):
it's it's really sad because I think if they if
they were forced to actually play by the book book,
no insider trading, background checks, no dual citizenship, things like this. Yep,
if we were forcing members to do it, the trust
would slowly start to be rebuilt in the system in
(11:13):
our government. And I think a healthy amount of skepticism
is always good, but when you've got a fourteen percent
approval rating on a good day, that's a sign that
you're not doing things in the best interest of the people.
And so we've got it. Like I say, it goes
back to longevity, and are we going to be a
republic for the next two hundred and fifty years? Not
at this rate. Certainly the physical situation will answer that
(11:36):
for us. But if we want to continue to be
this wild, crazy experiment in freedom, we have to start
cleaning up the house in HR one forty three. It's
one of the big important steps we've got to take.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Kat you got to get on Fox, even though we
talked about the limitations of television, but you also have
to get on Glenn, and you've got to get on
Clay and Buck, and you've got to get on Sean,
and you got to get on Mark Levin.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You need to be beaten the bushes on this because
this is really good. I'm proud of you. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Thanks, well, I will be on I'll be on Harris
Faulkner today at eleven o'clock. Okay out, okay, This and
a bunch of other things. And Lord knows. I try
to do as much media talking about these issues as possible,
but man, we really need the people. Like this is
where the power of the people is so important. Call
your representatives because there's nothing that a chicken crat politician
(12:25):
fears more than when their constituents start lighting up their
phone lines and saying, Hey, I want you to sponsor
this bill, Hey, please sponsor this bill. They all of
a sudden start paying attention because they're thinking reelection, right,
and so that's where I need the people's help.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Kat, you're the best.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Hopefully we'll talk again in a couple of weeks before
the Christmas break, but if not, Merry Christmas and thank
you for all you're doing.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Hey, appreciate you more than you know. Everybody, have a great,
great holiday. If I don't see you or talk to
you before then, and make God continue to bless these
United States.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Kat Cammick with us this morning on the Morning Show.
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