December 12, 2025 • 11 mins
Barack Obama, Democrats, and an activist Chief Justice of The U.S. Supreme Court gave us ObamaCare. Florida U.S. Senator Rick Scott is trying to undo some of the damage.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome friends. Final half hour of the program for the day,
thirty five past the hour. It is a show fifty
five oh nine, and I am pleased to add back
with US former Florida governor and now US Senator Rick Scott.
How are you, Senator?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh, I'm good to Chiley up in DC. We're trying
to figure out how are we actually going to reduce
the cost of healthcare by fixing Obamacare? And are we
going to stop wasteful earmarks? That's what's on the agenda
this next two weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Let's start with the Unaffordable Care Act because Obamacare has
been a train wreck. You and I both know it
was really designed to be that. It was never designed
to do anything but a certain control and try to
push us into a single payer system. So how do
you fix something that is so abjectly broken.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, you start to stop and say, okay, what do
we Let's focus on what we care. I grew up
in a family that you know, my parents didn't have
money for health care. So when my brother had a
significant disease, nobody would take care of him in our town.
So my mom finally found a charity hospital about four
hours away. That's super take him to So we got
(01:23):
to give people health care. Now, that's step one. How
do we get people health care? Now? Step two is
let's don't make people dependent on government, right, And step
three is how do we get this at a price
that you can afford? So how do you do that?
If you have a safety net, you say, okay, if
we're gonna help you, we're gonna give you cash, just
like we do food stamps, right, and then you're going
(01:45):
to buy health care because we know you'll spend the
dollars better than if we give it to an insurance
company or somebody else. And we're not gonna we're not
gonna have you know, insurance company right the rules or
government right the rules. You probably know what's best for
your family. So I've got to build that basically does
that but the money if we're going to if we're
going to subsize you because you know your income you
(02:06):
can't afford it, then we're going to give you cash.
You're going to go buy what you want to buy.
You can buy directed in health care, that's called healthcare.
Not getting healthcare insurance with the ten thousand dollars deductible
is probably not healthcare because you might not be able
to afford that ten thousand dollars. So you're going to
be able to buy healthcare directly, you're gonna be able
(02:28):
to buy a plan. You're going to be able to
pay co payments, deductibles, and then. But we're not going
to make people depend If you're making five hundred thousand
dollars a year, we're not going to subsize your health care.
It's not right. We're not going to ask somebody making
twenty bucks an hour is paying their taxes to pay
for somebody's rich, rich person's health care plan. So that's
what we should be doing, and we didn't need. The
(02:50):
industry needs to start telling us prices. When I when
I was in when I, I did a lot of
stuff in healthcare, built the largest hospital company and then
build the urgent care company, urge care company. All the
prices are up on the wall. Walk in and you
know what things are costing. You should know what costs
to go to a hospital. You should know what'll get
cost to go to a doctor. There are all the prices
are to be up there. You are to know I
(03:10):
want that, I don't want that. That's too expensive.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Should everybody have some skin in the game, even if
it's five dollars. Should everybody, even if they're getting some help,
still have some skin in it.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
They have to. Here's because here's when they don't. Here's
what happens what Biden did during his year when he
did these extended subsidies. No, they'll have to put up
any money. So we probably have somewhere between four and
six million people in this country right now. They're paying nothing.
They might not even know they have the insurance because
(03:47):
guess what, you know, rogue agents and the rogue insurance
companies could sign you up. If they just knew your
your name, your birthday, and your ZIP and where you lived,
they could sign you up. Then there's millions people and
the money goes correctly to an insurance company. Know, you
don't even know you have coverage. So if people don't
have skin in the game, it's called fraud. Right, everybody
(04:10):
has to be you know, it has to pay something
Like I want people to get health care. I don't
want fraud. I mean we have an impressed We've got
two trillion dollar year deficits going on right now. How
can we be subsidizing people making five hundred thousand dollars
a year. It could be millionaires. How can we subsidize
(04:31):
their healthcare? It sounds nice. I don't get how we
think we can do that, Like, who's money? Yeah, it
was going to borrow more money to do that. This
stuff's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, that's part of the problem, Centator, As you well know,
people just think that the government just has this money. Well,
it's our money, it's all of our tax money. It's
that's the only place that they get the money. In
the House, you've already got a group of alleged Republicans
that are waving a white flag after the whole standing
together on during the government shutdown on this Obamacare subsidies stuff,
(05:06):
expanding the subsidies again, they're waving the white flag. And
then you've got colleagues like Wisconsin Senator Tammy Baldwin in
essence doing the same. How do you get any kind
of I guess, momentum for doing the fixes you're talking
about when even people in your own party and then
colleagues in the Senate are just fighting.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, first off, every American's got to say what they want.
You know, we're elected, we represent people. So the people
that care about this stuff, they call your house members
and call your senators and say if you think that
everything's free, then you call them and say, hey, look
everything's free. I don't care if interest rates at Clayton,
(05:49):
flation goes up, the cost of living goes up. I
just want my free stuff. You should do that, that's
what you believe. But if you're rational, you should say,
I am not is not fair that somebody making two
hundred and fifty or five hundred thousand dollars a year
gets subsidies from the federal gunment for healthcare. That doesn't
make sense. We have to borrow. This is all borrowed money.
(06:14):
So as is. Think about this. We already have thirty
eight train dollars death. We already have a training dollars
of interesting in a year. Grocery prices aren't coming down,
gas prices, home prices, None of the stuff comes down
if we keep running deficits, because that's what causes inflation. Right,
So it's I mean, maybe there's some I mean, I
(06:36):
don't know any other way to do it. You got
to just be vocal say I am I didn't elect you, right,
I didn't elect you to bankrupt this country. I didn't
elect you to take care of a whole bunch of
rich people. I elected you to make my life better.
I want less inflation, Okay, I want safety nets. You
don't need a safety net for somebody making a half
(06:56):
million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Why won't be RNs see cobble together some resources which
they have in abundance of, along with some of the
think tanks that are conservative and reliable, and start messaging
the American people. Not winning elections, not trying to win
an election, but to explain to people why Obamacare is
killing us and why some of these common sense solutions
(07:20):
you're offering, Senator will work. Why aren't we seeing that
kind of messaging just by the time on TV?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You know, I you know, but you know all all
the other the rn C, I mean, they're focused on
winning elections and that's that's how that's just the mentality
they have.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But if they don't win the argument, they can't win
the election.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Oh, I know, I agree that, you know, it's not
a bad idea. I cain't talked to Joe Gruder's but
the but you know, this stuff is not that hard.
I know. I mean my parents, I mean my parents,
my mom had a leventh grade education. My dad had
sixue education. They I remember when remember under George W. Bush,
they gave they gave like the fife hundred and fifty
(08:04):
dollars bonus checks to everybody. My mom laughed and she said,
that is the stupidest thing. We're gonna We're gonna turn
around the economy by by just giving each of us
one hundred and fifty bucks. Now, they gave it to
my brother, who unfortunately has passed away. And they didn't
give any to me because I was making too much money.
But they gave it to my brother who spent the
money on drugs. So, but because he wasn't making much money.
(08:25):
So and then remember when they did the crazy thing, Oh,
we're going to give you money if we'll if you'll
throw away your car something like this stuff we can't.
Gunman has got to get out of our lives, not
do more stuff in our lives. We let's have us
safety in that. I mean, I will, but the stuff
that what we're doing is causing everybody's cost health care
(08:46):
to go up. I mean, it's just like it's just
like Medicaid, the gut Federalgram pays more for able bodied
single adults under the medicaid program for somebody that's disabled.
Why what incentive does that create. I mean, you look
at this stuff and think, nobody in their right mind
(09:07):
will create a system like this. But you're right, there's
a lot of Democrats. All they want is they want
government to control every part of your life exactly, want
to make all your decisions.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And they have the not poking at the president, they
have the trump card. And the trump card that government
has is taxes. You know, if if the rest of
us can't borrow any more money because the bank says, sorry,
you're leveraged too far, you need to reduce your debt
to obtain more credit, the government says, screw that, will
print more money or we'll just tax people more.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Right, Well, it's going to end. This is not going
to I mean, it's already happening. I mean, inflation is
not under control until we balance the budget, agreed. But
I know the president's busting is about to try to
get the costs down. I know he is, and man,
talk to him about it. He's doing it. Congress controls
(10:01):
the purse, not the president, and so so what so
what what Congress has to do is live within our means.
The President's all. I mean, I talked to Hi about it.
He would like to balance about it. It's very difficult
when you have an administration, I mean Congress that doesn't care.
They don't I mean, I mean, i'm I'm like, I'm
(10:22):
finding remarks. We are we are doing. We're giving in
this proporations package one hundred I think one hundred and
nine million dollars to Josh John ossof of just stuff
in this state. Why that has no nexus to federal
problems none? Why are we doing that? Why? Why is
that our job? Our job is to be responsible. They're
(10:45):
federal things we got to do, take care of the
ohtaways and things like that. But local projects don't make sense.
I mean, why are we doing that? We have Look,
I hear that all the money in the world, you
should do it, right, I mean, all the billionaires and
gazillionaires out there, give your money away. You You got
to see you can't take it with you anyway. Our
government doesn't have billions of dollars
Welcome friends. Final half hour of the program for the day,
thirty five past the hour. It is a show fifty
five oh nine, and I am pleased to add back
with US former Florida governor and now US Senator Rick Scott.
How are you, Senator?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh, I'm good to Chiley up in DC. We're trying
to figure out how are we actually going to reduce
the cost of healthcare by fixing Obamacare? And are we
going to stop wasteful earmarks? That's what's on the agenda
this next two weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Let's start with the Unaffordable Care Act because Obamacare has
been a train wreck. You and I both know it
was really designed to be that. It was never designed
to do anything but a certain control and try to
push us into a single payer system. So how do
you fix something that is so abjectly broken.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, you start to stop and say, okay, what do
we Let's focus on what we care. I grew up
in a family that you know, my parents didn't have
money for health care. So when my brother had a
significant disease, nobody would take care of him in our town.
So my mom finally found a charity hospital about four
hours away. That's super take him to So we got
(01:23):
to give people health care. Now, that's step one. How
do we get people health care? Now? Step two is
let's don't make people dependent on government, right, And step
three is how do we get this at a price
that you can afford? So how do you do that?
If you have a safety net, you say, okay, if
we're gonna help you, we're gonna give you cash, just
like we do food stamps, right, and then you're going
(01:45):
to buy health care because we know you'll spend the
dollars better than if we give it to an insurance
company or somebody else. And we're not gonna we're not
gonna have you know, insurance company right the rules or
government right the rules. You probably know what's best for
your family. So I've got to build that basically does
that but the money if we're going to if we're
going to subsize you because you know your income you
(02:06):
can't afford it, then we're going to give you cash.
You're going to go buy what you want to buy.
You can buy directed in health care, that's called healthcare.
Not getting healthcare insurance with the ten thousand dollars deductible
is probably not healthcare because you might not be able
to afford that ten thousand dollars. So you're going to
be able to buy healthcare directly, you're gonna be able
(02:28):
to buy a plan. You're going to be able to
pay co payments, deductibles, and then. But we're not going
to make people depend If you're making five hundred thousand
dollars a year, we're not going to subsize your health care.
It's not right. We're not going to ask somebody making
twenty bucks an hour is paying their taxes to pay
for somebody's rich, rich person's health care plan. So that's
what we should be doing, and we didn't need. The
(02:50):
industry needs to start telling us prices. When I when
I was in when I, I did a lot of
stuff in healthcare, built the largest hospital company and then
build the urgent care company, urge care company. All the
prices are up on the wall. Walk in and you
know what things are costing. You should know what costs
to go to a hospital. You should know what'll get
cost to go to a doctor. There are all the prices
are to be up there. You are to know I
(03:10):
want that, I don't want that. That's too expensive.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Should everybody have some skin in the game, even if
it's five dollars. Should everybody, even if they're getting some help,
still have some skin in it.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
They have to. Here's because here's when they don't. Here's
what happens what Biden did during his year when he
did these extended subsidies. No, they'll have to put up
any money. So we probably have somewhere between four and
six million people in this country right now. They're paying nothing.
They might not even know they have the insurance because
(03:47):
guess what, you know, rogue agents and the rogue insurance
companies could sign you up. If they just knew your
your name, your birthday, and your ZIP and where you lived,
they could sign you up. Then there's millions people and
the money goes correctly to an insurance company. Know, you
don't even know you have coverage. So if people don't
have skin in the game, it's called fraud. Right, everybody
(04:10):
has to be you know, it has to pay something
Like I want people to get health care. I don't
want fraud. I mean we have an impressed We've got
two trillion dollar year deficits going on right now. How
can we be subsidizing people making five hundred thousand dollars
a year. It could be millionaires. How can we subsidize
(04:31):
their healthcare? It sounds nice. I don't get how we
think we can do that, Like, who's money? Yeah, it
was going to borrow more money to do that. This
stuff's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, that's part of the problem, Centator, As you well know,
people just think that the government just has this money. Well,
it's our money, it's all of our tax money. It's
that's the only place that they get the money. In
the House, you've already got a group of alleged Republicans
that are waving a white flag after the whole standing
together on during the government shutdown on this Obamacare subsidies stuff,
(05:06):
expanding the subsidies again, they're waving the white flag. And
then you've got colleagues like Wisconsin Senator Tammy Baldwin in
essence doing the same. How do you get any kind
of I guess, momentum for doing the fixes you're talking
about when even people in your own party and then
colleagues in the Senate are just fighting.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, first off, every American's got to say what they want.
You know, we're elected, we represent people. So the people
that care about this stuff, they call your house members
and call your senators and say if you think that
everything's free, then you call them and say, hey, look
everything's free. I don't care if interest rates at Clayton,
(05:49):
flation goes up, the cost of living goes up. I
just want my free stuff. You should do that, that's
what you believe. But if you're rational, you should say,
I am not is not fair that somebody making two
hundred and fifty or five hundred thousand dollars a year
gets subsidies from the federal gunment for healthcare. That doesn't
make sense. We have to borrow. This is all borrowed money.
(06:14):
So as is. Think about this. We already have thirty
eight train dollars death. We already have a training dollars
of interesting in a year. Grocery prices aren't coming down,
gas prices, home prices, None of the stuff comes down
if we keep running deficits, because that's what causes inflation. Right,
So it's I mean, maybe there's some I mean, I
(06:36):
don't know any other way to do it. You got
to just be vocal say I am I didn't elect you, right,
I didn't elect you to bankrupt this country. I didn't
elect you to take care of a whole bunch of
rich people. I elected you to make my life better.
I want less inflation, Okay, I want safety nets. You
don't need a safety net for somebody making a half
(06:56):
million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Why won't be RNs see cobble together some resources which
they have in abundance of, along with some of the
think tanks that are conservative and reliable, and start messaging
the American people. Not winning elections, not trying to win
an election, but to explain to people why Obamacare is
killing us and why some of these common sense solutions
(07:20):
you're offering, Senator will work. Why aren't we seeing that
kind of messaging just by the time on TV?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You know, I you know, but you know all all
the other the rn C, I mean, they're focused on
winning elections and that's that's how that's just the mentality
they have.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But if they don't win the argument, they can't win
the election.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Oh, I know, I agree that, you know, it's not
a bad idea. I cain't talked to Joe Gruder's but
the but you know, this stuff is not that hard.
I know. I mean my parents, I mean my parents,
my mom had a leventh grade education. My dad had
sixue education. They I remember when remember under George W. Bush,
they gave they gave like the fife hundred and fifty
(08:04):
dollars bonus checks to everybody. My mom laughed and she said,
that is the stupidest thing. We're gonna We're gonna turn
around the economy by by just giving each of us
one hundred and fifty bucks. Now, they gave it to
my brother, who unfortunately has passed away. And they didn't
give any to me because I was making too much money.
But they gave it to my brother who spent the
money on drugs. So, but because he wasn't making much money.
(08:25):
So and then remember when they did the crazy thing, Oh,
we're going to give you money if we'll if you'll
throw away your car something like this stuff we can't.
Gunman has got to get out of our lives, not
do more stuff in our lives. We let's have us
safety in that. I mean, I will, but the stuff
that what we're doing is causing everybody's cost health care
(08:46):
to go up. I mean, it's just like it's just
like Medicaid, the gut Federalgram pays more for able bodied
single adults under the medicaid program for somebody that's disabled.
Why what incentive does that create. I mean, you look
at this stuff and think, nobody in their right mind
(09:07):
will create a system like this. But you're right, there's
a lot of Democrats. All they want is they want
government to control every part of your life exactly, want
to make all your decisions.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And they have the not poking at the president, they
have the trump card. And the trump card that government
has is taxes. You know, if if the rest of
us can't borrow any more money because the bank says, sorry,
you're leveraged too far, you need to reduce your debt
to obtain more credit, the government says, screw that, will
print more money or we'll just tax people more.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Right, Well, it's going to end. This is not going
to I mean, it's already happening. I mean, inflation is
not under control until we balance the budget, agreed. But
I know the president's busting is about to try to
get the costs down. I know he is, and man,
talk to him about it. He's doing it. Congress controls
(10:01):
the purse, not the president, and so so what so
what what Congress has to do is live within our means.
The President's all. I mean, I talked to Hi about it.
He would like to balance about it. It's very difficult
when you have an administration, I mean Congress that doesn't care.
They don't I mean, I mean, i'm I'm like, I'm
(10:22):
finding remarks. We are we are doing. We're giving in
this proporations package one hundred I think one hundred and
nine million dollars to Josh John ossof of just stuff
in this state. Why that has no nexus to federal
problems none? Why are we doing that? Why? Why is
that our job? Our job is to be responsible. They're
(10:45):
federal things we got to do, take care of the
ohtaways and things like that. But local projects don't make sense.
I mean, why are we doing that? We have Look,
I hear that all the money in the world, you
should do it, right, I mean, all the billionaires and
gazillionaires out there, give your money away. You You got
to see you can't take it with you anyway. Our
government doesn't have billions of dollars
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