July 23, 2025 • 15 mins
Greg Wrightstone, Executive Director of the CO2 Coalition, checked in on the progress being made fighting the lies and fraud of "Gorebal" warming.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good nay mates, and welcome if you're just joining us.
It's the third hour of the Morning Show with Preston
Scott and we do have a podcast of the program.
We've had it for a very long time, so if
you missed the first two hours, just look up the
podcast on the iHeartRadio app and there you go. You'll
get caught up. But you've tuned in at the right
(00:24):
time because I am joined by a friend of the program.
We have known Greg Wrightstone for a number of years.
He's chairman of the CO two Coalition. He's author of
a couple of books, Inconvenient Facts, The Science that Al
Gore Doesn't want you to Know and a very Convenient Warming,
How Modest Warming and CO two are Benefiting humanity. He
(00:44):
is Greg Wridstone.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hi, Greg, good Marning, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I am terrific For the benefit of those that have
missed our previous visits, do a quick reset here. You're
you're a geologist by profession. What was it that you
finally had your popeye moment and you've stood all you
could stand and you couldn't stand anymore, and you decided
you were going to take this challenge on?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, well, as a scientist. I knew that some of
what this goes back to. About twenty fifteen is when
I really started getting very interested to learn the truth.
And I heard the things as a geologist that we
were being told that I knew were just false. In
particularly that's that oceans are becoming acidic. You've probably heard
(01:32):
of ocean acidification. That just a terrible thing, And I
knew that that was actually incorrect. It cannot happen. We
won't go into the science of why it can't happen.
We could do that on a different show. But I
knew that, And so I said, they're lying to me
about this. What else are they lying to me about?
And so I did it? I didn't. I'm going to
(01:53):
do my own research. I'm going to do a deep
dive into various claims that are being made of in
using wildfires, sea level rise. You've heard them all.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Can I ask you, did you start this process of
researching through the lens of as a professional, trained, academic geologist,
or were the claims so much that you pushed yourself
outside of your normal silo into other areas well.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
If we look at climate change, there are probably thirty
or forty different disciplines that are involved climatology, geology, chemistry, meteorology,
all of those things combined are part of this. And
so I took this just as a scientist. It was
with my geologic and scientific background, and I started going
(02:48):
into these and frankly, what I found anchored me is
that most of what we're being told about the climate
crisis is just false and that this is my own
personal search for the truth. It led me to this
because I went back to the base date. I said,
I'm not going to trust anyone. I'm going to look
at my own through my own research. And that led
(03:08):
me to write my first book, which was Inconvenient Facts,
which was a runaway bestseller, and it was it was
that that and then my most In that book, I
pretty much I documented that there is no climate crisis
and in fact, Earth is getting better. My second book
that was just published is the name is a very
Convenient Warming, Now modest warming and more co two are
(03:32):
benefiting humanity, and it's the story about the facts of
what's actually happening. We see by almost every metric we
look at, Earth's ecosystems are thriving and prospering, and humanity
is benefiting from increasing CO two and modest warming, and
it's I call it the greatest untold story of the
(03:52):
twenty first century, that of a thrift and the thriving,
improving of the human condition. And we should celebrate that.
It's just it's it's man life is good in getting better,
and it's it's because of more CO two modest warming.
Means that it's the greatest advantage we're seeing from the
(04:12):
two of those. Or agriculture that's breaking records year after
year after year from the coldest countries to the hottest
countries like India, their agricultural spector and productivity or outpacing
population growth. Isn't that a good thing that does a really,
really really good thing. We should celebrate that.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Is it an oversimplification to say the Earth is simply
being the Earth?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
No, that's that's probably the truth because if we look
at the facts, let's let's get to the heart of this.
Is it all goes around carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide or
CO two, And this is the other people pushing this
climate alarm called the demon molecule, we call it the
mirror cale molecule. And so everything they're doing for net zero,
(05:04):
their regulations that were systematically stripping your listeners from their freedoms,
their freedoms to die. Now, bear with me when I
said I'm a big, very big proponent of I'm strongly
pro choice. And by saying that, I mean your listeners
should have the choice of what kind of car to drive,
how to heat their home to, what temperature to heat
(05:28):
or cool their home. If you look around, look around
you right now you're in the comfort of your home
or your office. Everything you look at, it's based on
the electricity has been regulated under the bidener orma EPA
or Department of Energy. For just your your ceiling fan,
no more incandescent white bulbs. They're they're limiting what kind
(05:51):
of washer and dryer you can buy, what dishwasher you
can buy, and so they're telling you, for the most part,
they're much more defensive, they don't use as much energy, probably,
but they're telling you you should not have the choice
to buy a dishwasher that can clean your dishes in
forty minutes and get them clean instead of a dishwasher
(06:14):
that takes an hour and a half like ours does,
and they're not so clean. Or flush your toilet two
times instead of once and so that's what they're using,
is all is revolving around carbon dioxide and limitations, and
so carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. It does have
a warming effect like other greenhouse gases, over which the
main one is water vapor, but it's very, very very
(06:36):
small and overwhelmed by again water vapor and natural forces
that have been heating and cooling and driving temperatures since
the dawn of time. And it's just thank god now
we're seeing in the Trump administration they're rolling these restrictions back.
They're taking away these limits of your freedom, allowing us
(06:59):
the ability to choose what to buy.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Greg, you and I have talked about this a couple
times over the years, but I am still convinced that
the rank and file American does not understand the distinction
between carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide. They know that one
is used to off yourself. You know, you want to
(07:23):
kill yourself. You take the gas pipe and you put
the exhaust pipe rather in your car and you turn
it on, and you'd kill yourself. And I don't think
there's enough understanding of the benefits. You call it the
miracle molecule. I don't think enough people understand This is
carbon dioxide, not monoxide.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It doesn't there's
no direct harm with increasing carbon dioxide. Carbon monoxide is
a poison. It's a balluton that can kill you. So
carbon dioxide that's what we're breathing out. It was every
you breathe out, you're exhaling about forty thousand parts per
(08:04):
million the ambient airror and that if you walk outside
right now and if there's a bit of a wind,
you're going to see about four hundred and thirty parts
per million and you're exhaling forty thousand. There's no direct
harm even if above five thousand parts per million. So
we could carbon diox that could get fifteen to twenty
(08:27):
times as high as of this right now, and there's
still will be no direct harm. In fact, submarines, I
believe there they limit. There is usually over six thousand
parts per million for the sailors or the submariners that
are there, because of course you've got forty or fifty
men in a submarine and they're all exhaling forty thousand
parts per million, and so the air in the submarine
(08:52):
they need to keep cleansing the co two in the
sub but again during over Earth's history, the average of
CO two in the atmosphere is twenty six hundred parts
per million, six and a half times what it is today.
Life thrive, Plants love more CO two, they do, and
they do. All life thrived at much much higher CO
(09:14):
two levels, And so we're actually in a period of
CO two starvation. We don't have too much CO two,
we don't have enough, and that's really what is not understood.
The other big point that they failed to mention is
that in my new book, A Very Convenient Warming, I
have an entire section devoted to this. One of my
(09:37):
favorite subjects is the strong correlation between a relationship between
human history and climate temperature history. And we find that
each of the previous warming periods, and we are in
a warming period, by the way, thankfully each of the
previous warming periods, which is hugely beneficial to humanity. Great
(09:58):
empires arose and civilizations arose. But dating back to the
very first in the Bronze Age, the Manilan Warm period, Babylonians, Hittites, Assyrians,
the Horopic Empire in the Indus River Valley. All these
first civilizations rose up during a really, really warm time.
In fact, it was so warm they were growing a
(10:20):
crop called millet in Scandinavia would be grown in subtropical areas,
so we know it was a lot warmer and life
was good. And then it started getting cold and mad.
It was horrific every time throughout Earth's history, and it
started getting cold. It led to crop failure, famine, pestilence,
and masty population.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Greg let's catch everybody up. What is the CO two Coalition?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, the CO two Coalition. We're now nearly two hundred
of the top experts and scientists in the world that
are skeptic. We pushed back and tell the truth about
what's actually happening by climate change. With on our board.
We've got doctor Patrick Moore, who was a co founder
of greenpa Peace believe it or not. We have doctor
(11:07):
John klaus or Sits on our board. He was the
twenty twenty two Nobel Laureate in physics. So it's hard
to call us science deniers. I would call these other
people pushing this climate scam. We just talked about human history.
I call them history deniers because they deny what human
history tells us. And so it's our mission to promote
(11:29):
the truth about the benefits mostly of carbon dioxide, but
also of modest warming. And so we're pushing back against this.
We're fighting for your freedoms, for your listeners' freedoms, and
we've been active. Our office is based in the DC
area Fairfax, Virginia, and we are actively promoting our politicians
(11:55):
to enact sound scientists, science based policy, which they haven't before.
UH again, and we're providing that information directly into the
hands of people like Lee Zelden at at e p
A Environmental Protection Agency, Chris Wright and Energy Doug Bergham
(12:15):
an Interior, Sean daff Duffy at Transportation UH. And there
they've been bold. They've been just refreshingly aggressive and pushing
back against the climate hoax laws and UH, it's it's great.
For example, at e p A, two days before Lee
Zelden was sworn in as EPA administrator, they fired every
(12:37):
single one of the members of their scientific Advisory Board.
And we were contacted not long after asking us because
we're we are the I'm not going to say again
we basically, of course, we're the pre eminent scientific organization
in the world fighting back against this. UH. And we
got a little Birdie whispered in my ear that we
(12:59):
should make a list of experts that we could populate
these panels with, and so we've provided a list last
month of almost fifty highly qualified experts to sit on
these EPA Scientific Advisory boards. We've written a number of
reports by doctor Richard Lindzen of MIT, Steve Coonan who
(13:23):
was physics PhD. He was Obama's science advisor, Doctor William Happers,
our chairman. We published these provided this information to Congress,
to EPA, Energy Interior and the others to give them
the information they need to make decisions. And they've been
(13:44):
again just almost it's not maybe on a daily basis,
but almost every week there are new just tremendous either
executive orders or things proposed by these agencies, these regulatory
agencies to again roll back these restrictions on your listener's freedoms.
And we're proud to do it. It's it might be
(14:06):
the most important thing I've ever done in my life.
And we're not stopping. We're moving forward. And in fact,
we've got a series of two sixty second ads right now,
we're doing polling right now, We're going to be running
national television, so hopefully you put on put it on
when you tile up Fox. I don't think anybody of
(14:27):
your listeners is going to be watching MSNBC unless they're forced.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, but that's where they need to be. The ads
need to be there.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yep, exactly. And so we're doing polling right now. Hopefully
within thirty days we'll be able to roll this out.
I'm going to be starting. It's not cheap, it's not
inexpensive to do these We're talking about millions of dollars.
But I think people would be motivated to get that
truth out. Surely there's a billionaierror or billionaierrors out there
(14:57):
that would love to say, look what I you know,
here's here's X dollars. I want this. I want this
information out in the public. I wanted on MSNBC. I
want it on CNN. UH. And we're well also the
other uh, non standard, tell, Hulu whatever. We're going to
get it out there. And I believe when I talk
(15:18):
to people, I find that people are just thirsty for
this information that we provide as thirsty because they've never
heard it, and we need to. Once we get this
information out there, it's game over for the climate crisis.
Climate industrial complex is what I call it.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Greg, I gotta go. We're up against the news break.
I appreciate the time this morning and friends, the executive
director CO two Coalition CO two Coalition dot org. You
can donate and support the cause right there, Greg Ridestone,
my guest here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott
Good nay mates, and welcome if you're just joining us.
It's the third hour of the Morning Show with Preston
Scott and we do have a podcast of the program.
We've had it for a very long time, so if
you missed the first two hours, just look up the
podcast on the iHeartRadio app and there you go. You'll
get caught up. But you've tuned in at the right
(00:24):
time because I am joined by a friend of the program.
We have known Greg Wrightstone for a number of years.
He's chairman of the CO two Coalition. He's author of
a couple of books, Inconvenient Facts, The Science that Al
Gore Doesn't want you to Know and a very Convenient Warming,
How Modest Warming and CO two are Benefiting humanity. He
(00:44):
is Greg Wridstone.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hi, Greg, good Marning, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I am terrific For the benefit of those that have
missed our previous visits, do a quick reset here. You're
you're a geologist by profession. What was it that you
finally had your popeye moment and you've stood all you
could stand and you couldn't stand anymore, and you decided
you were going to take this challenge on?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, well, as a scientist. I knew that some of
what this goes back to. About twenty fifteen is when
I really started getting very interested to learn the truth.
And I heard the things as a geologist that we
were being told that I knew were just false. In
particularly that's that oceans are becoming acidic. You've probably heard
(01:32):
of ocean acidification. That just a terrible thing, And I
knew that that was actually incorrect. It cannot happen. We
won't go into the science of why it can't happen.
We could do that on a different show. But I
knew that, And so I said, they're lying to me
about this. What else are they lying to me about?
And so I did it? I didn't. I'm going to
(01:53):
do my own research. I'm going to do a deep
dive into various claims that are being made of in
using wildfires, sea level rise. You've heard them all.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Can I ask you, did you start this process of
researching through the lens of as a professional, trained, academic geologist,
or were the claims so much that you pushed yourself
outside of your normal silo into other areas well.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
If we look at climate change, there are probably thirty
or forty different disciplines that are involved climatology, geology, chemistry, meteorology,
all of those things combined are part of this. And
so I took this just as a scientist. It was
with my geologic and scientific background, and I started going
(02:48):
into these and frankly, what I found anchored me is
that most of what we're being told about the climate
crisis is just false and that this is my own
personal search for the truth. It led me to this
because I went back to the base date. I said,
I'm not going to trust anyone. I'm going to look
at my own through my own research. And that led
(03:08):
me to write my first book, which was Inconvenient Facts,
which was a runaway bestseller, and it was it was
that that and then my most In that book, I
pretty much I documented that there is no climate crisis
and in fact, Earth is getting better. My second book
that was just published is the name is a very
Convenient Warming, Now modest warming and more co two are
(03:32):
benefiting humanity, and it's the story about the facts of
what's actually happening. We see by almost every metric we
look at, Earth's ecosystems are thriving and prospering, and humanity
is benefiting from increasing CO two and modest warming, and
it's I call it the greatest untold story of the
(03:52):
twenty first century, that of a thrift and the thriving,
improving of the human condition. And we should celebrate that.
It's just it's it's man life is good in getting better,
and it's it's because of more CO two modest warming.
Means that it's the greatest advantage we're seeing from the
(04:12):
two of those. Or agriculture that's breaking records year after
year after year from the coldest countries to the hottest
countries like India, their agricultural spector and productivity or outpacing
population growth. Isn't that a good thing that does a really,
really really good thing. We should celebrate that.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Is it an oversimplification to say the Earth is simply
being the Earth?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
No, that's that's probably the truth because if we look
at the facts, let's let's get to the heart of this.
Is it all goes around carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide or
CO two, And this is the other people pushing this
climate alarm called the demon molecule, we call it the
mirror cale molecule. And so everything they're doing for net zero,
(05:04):
their regulations that were systematically stripping your listeners from their freedoms,
their freedoms to die. Now, bear with me when I
said I'm a big, very big proponent of I'm strongly
pro choice. And by saying that, I mean your listeners
should have the choice of what kind of car to drive,
how to heat their home to, what temperature to heat
(05:28):
or cool their home. If you look around, look around
you right now you're in the comfort of your home
or your office. Everything you look at, it's based on
the electricity has been regulated under the bidener orma EPA
or Department of Energy. For just your your ceiling fan,
no more incandescent white bulbs. They're they're limiting what kind
(05:51):
of washer and dryer you can buy, what dishwasher you
can buy, and so they're telling you, for the most part,
they're much more defensive, they don't use as much energy, probably,
but they're telling you you should not have the choice
to buy a dishwasher that can clean your dishes in
forty minutes and get them clean instead of a dishwasher
(06:14):
that takes an hour and a half like ours does,
and they're not so clean. Or flush your toilet two
times instead of once and so that's what they're using,
is all is revolving around carbon dioxide and limitations, and
so carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. It does have
a warming effect like other greenhouse gases, over which the
main one is water vapor, but it's very, very very
(06:36):
small and overwhelmed by again water vapor and natural forces
that have been heating and cooling and driving temperatures since
the dawn of time. And it's just thank god now
we're seeing in the Trump administration they're rolling these restrictions back.
They're taking away these limits of your freedom, allowing us
(06:59):
the ability to choose what to buy.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Greg, you and I have talked about this a couple
times over the years, but I am still convinced that
the rank and file American does not understand the distinction
between carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide. They know that one
is used to off yourself. You know, you want to
(07:23):
kill yourself. You take the gas pipe and you put
the exhaust pipe rather in your car and you turn
it on, and you'd kill yourself. And I don't think
there's enough understanding of the benefits. You call it the
miracle molecule. I don't think enough people understand This is
carbon dioxide, not monoxide.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It doesn't there's
no direct harm with increasing carbon dioxide. Carbon monoxide is
a poison. It's a balluton that can kill you. So
carbon dioxide that's what we're breathing out. It was every
you breathe out, you're exhaling about forty thousand parts per
(08:04):
million the ambient airror and that if you walk outside
right now and if there's a bit of a wind,
you're going to see about four hundred and thirty parts
per million and you're exhaling forty thousand. There's no direct
harm even if above five thousand parts per million. So
we could carbon diox that could get fifteen to twenty
(08:27):
times as high as of this right now, and there's
still will be no direct harm. In fact, submarines, I
believe there they limit. There is usually over six thousand
parts per million for the sailors or the submariners that
are there, because of course you've got forty or fifty
men in a submarine and they're all exhaling forty thousand
parts per million, and so the air in the submarine
(08:52):
they need to keep cleansing the co two in the
sub but again during over Earth's history, the average of
CO two in the atmosphere is twenty six hundred parts
per million, six and a half times what it is today.
Life thrive, Plants love more CO two, they do, and
they do. All life thrived at much much higher CO
(09:14):
two levels, And so we're actually in a period of
CO two starvation. We don't have too much CO two,
we don't have enough, and that's really what is not understood.
The other big point that they failed to mention is
that in my new book, A Very Convenient Warming, I
have an entire section devoted to this. One of my
(09:37):
favorite subjects is the strong correlation between a relationship between
human history and climate temperature history. And we find that
each of the previous warming periods, and we are in
a warming period, by the way, thankfully each of the
previous warming periods, which is hugely beneficial to humanity. Great
(09:58):
empires arose and civilizations arose. But dating back to the
very first in the Bronze Age, the Manilan Warm period, Babylonians, Hittites, Assyrians,
the Horopic Empire in the Indus River Valley. All these
first civilizations rose up during a really, really warm time.
In fact, it was so warm they were growing a
(10:20):
crop called millet in Scandinavia would be grown in subtropical areas,
so we know it was a lot warmer and life
was good. And then it started getting cold and mad.
It was horrific every time throughout Earth's history, and it
started getting cold. It led to crop failure, famine, pestilence,
and masty population.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Greg let's catch everybody up. What is the CO two Coalition?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, the CO two Coalition. We're now nearly two hundred
of the top experts and scientists in the world that
are skeptic. We pushed back and tell the truth about
what's actually happening by climate change. With on our board.
We've got doctor Patrick Moore, who was a co founder
of greenpa Peace believe it or not. We have doctor
(11:07):
John klaus or Sits on our board. He was the
twenty twenty two Nobel Laureate in physics. So it's hard
to call us science deniers. I would call these other
people pushing this climate scam. We just talked about human history.
I call them history deniers because they deny what human
history tells us. And so it's our mission to promote
(11:29):
the truth about the benefits mostly of carbon dioxide, but
also of modest warming. And so we're pushing back against this.
We're fighting for your freedoms, for your listeners' freedoms, and
we've been active. Our office is based in the DC
area Fairfax, Virginia, and we are actively promoting our politicians
(11:55):
to enact sound scientists, science based policy, which they haven't before.
UH again, and we're providing that information directly into the
hands of people like Lee Zelden at at e p
A Environmental Protection Agency, Chris Wright and Energy Doug Bergham
(12:15):
an Interior, Sean daff Duffy at Transportation UH. And there
they've been bold. They've been just refreshingly aggressive and pushing
back against the climate hoax laws and UH, it's it's great.
For example, at e p A, two days before Lee
Zelden was sworn in as EPA administrator, they fired every
(12:37):
single one of the members of their scientific Advisory Board.
And we were contacted not long after asking us because
we're we are the I'm not going to say again
we basically, of course, we're the pre eminent scientific organization
in the world fighting back against this. UH. And we
got a little Birdie whispered in my ear that we
(12:59):
should make a list of experts that we could populate
these panels with, and so we've provided a list last
month of almost fifty highly qualified experts to sit on
these EPA Scientific Advisory boards. We've written a number of
reports by doctor Richard Lindzen of MIT, Steve Coonan who
(13:23):
was physics PhD. He was Obama's science advisor, Doctor William Happers,
our chairman. We published these provided this information to Congress,
to EPA, Energy Interior and the others to give them
the information they need to make decisions. And they've been
(13:44):
again just almost it's not maybe on a daily basis,
but almost every week there are new just tremendous either
executive orders or things proposed by these agencies, these regulatory
agencies to again roll back these restrictions on your listener's freedoms.
And we're proud to do it. It's it might be
(14:06):
the most important thing I've ever done in my life.
And we're not stopping. We're moving forward. And in fact,
we've got a series of two sixty second ads right now,
we're doing polling right now, We're going to be running
national television, so hopefully you put on put it on
when you tile up Fox. I don't think anybody of
(14:27):
your listeners is going to be watching MSNBC unless they're forced.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, but that's where they need to be. The ads
need to be there.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yep, exactly. And so we're doing polling right now. Hopefully
within thirty days we'll be able to roll this out.
I'm going to be starting. It's not cheap, it's not
inexpensive to do these We're talking about millions of dollars.
But I think people would be motivated to get that
truth out. Surely there's a billionaierror or billionaierrors out there
(14:57):
that would love to say, look what I you know,
here's here's X dollars. I want this. I want this
information out in the public. I wanted on MSNBC. I
want it on CNN. UH. And we're well also the
other uh, non standard, tell, Hulu whatever. We're going to
get it out there. And I believe when I talk
(15:18):
to people, I find that people are just thirsty for
this information that we provide as thirsty because they've never
heard it, and we need to. Once we get this
information out there, it's game over for the climate crisis.
Climate industrial complex is what I call it.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Greg, I gotta go. We're up against the news break.
I appreciate the time this morning and friends, the executive
director CO two Coalition CO two Coalition dot org. You
can donate and support the cause right there, Greg Ridestone,
my guest here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott
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