May 31, 2025 • 27 mins
Down With Dogs is back with a new very special co-host!! 2 dogs moms chatting about the dog multiverse while having cocktails!!! Dogs with anxiety, The most important tip when adopting a dog, Reputable breeders are a must!! Grab a cocktail, your fur baby and get ready to laugh and learn!!
Can't wait to hear your feedbackand ideas..xoxoxo Courtney and Lorin
Can't wait to hear your feedbackand ideas..xoxoxo Courtney and Lorin
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Oh my god, it has been a minute. It is
Down with Dogs. What's up? It's Courtney. It's been probably
five years since a podcast was posted. We won't get
into why, just lots of stuff going on, but I
must say Down with Dogs is back, and I'm super
excited because I've been trying to get this person to
be my co host for i'd probably five years or more,
(00:23):
and she's agreed to do it. My best friend Lauren
is now my co host. Welcome Lauren, Hello everybody. I
am so excited because we are two dog crazy, dog
moms crazy. And if you think I'm crazy for starting
Down with Dogs podcasts and I talk about anal glands
and ibs and dog stuff, my girlfriend Lauren is like
crazier than I am about her dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I am.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I am crazier about my puppers than anybody.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And if you're a dog mom like we are, then
you know it's all about dogs. Today we're having a
cocktail day at my house, a girl's day, and it's
all about the dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It is all about the dogs.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So Down with Dogs is a podcast health and wellness
for your dogs. We are not veterinarians. I say that
every time we do a podcast, but I've got a
lot of advice to give you because i have all
recap on eleven year old labradoodle who has had health
issues his entire life, and we can go over some
of those and you can learn from everything I've been through.
And Lauren has three rescues. My dog is Jackson, an
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eleven year old labradoodle, your first the three that you
have right now, your first rescue out of those three,
because she's had five hundred rescues. And the podcast isn't
that long. Can we start with Gracie.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Gracie was a rescue and she is eleven years old.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Her breed is she is a Papion mix and she's adorable.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
She is adorable, and she rules the household. She is
in charge. She is the alpha female. And then I
have Courtney's favorite.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh, Charlie bo Barley.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, Charlie and all of my dogs have very official
names that will into it at some point. But Charlie
is nine and he is a Shepherd beagle. So imagine
you have a German shepherd and you throw him in
the dryer and he shrinks down.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And he's got little tiny hot dog legs.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
He's got little tiny hot dog legs and giant ears and.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
A giant package.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
He does have a giant package. It's awfully embarrassing. Sometimes
it is, it is, and then I My most recent
who has now been there for like two and a
half years, is Oliver, and he is a Papillon Corgie mix.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
He looks like a baby fox. He does.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
He does.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
He actually looks like if Gracie and Charlie had an
incestuous relationship and had a baby, he would have been
their baby.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
How old is he? I forget he is.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
He's gonna be three. I brought him home. He's gonna
be three. He's gonna be three, Okay, I thought I
was younger. He was when I brought him home. He
was a year and a half. I started the adoption
process when he was seven months old. Charlie Aberhoon he
was seven, Gracie was a year and a half, and
(03:11):
I think Oliver was when I started the process, he
was seven months. And then the process took a long time,
so he, you know, was a year and such.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And I will say that all rescues come with their
own sets of problems or whatever health issues. I want
to say all he's had more than your other two
Charlie and Gracie. Right. Oh, absolutely, he's had more. So
I don't know, maybe our first episode, instead of getting
into my dog's IBD and what's going onund with his issues,
(03:44):
maybe we should just dedicate this first podcast back since
twenty twenty, by the way, on rescues, because Lauren, if
you are a person who rescues or you're thinking about rescuing,
she has got so many great tips and tricks and
how to get your rescue to get situated in a
new home and a new environment. And we can start
(04:05):
with Allie because Ollie came to Lauren on a plethora
of medication because the rescue place that you got him
from said he suffered from anxiety and aggression.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Correct, And their version of aggression was he would be
eating his food or playing with a toy and they
would smack him with the inside of a wrapping paper roll.
And I was like, I was eating and somebody did that,
(04:40):
I'd bite your arm off too, Stay.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Away from my food.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Right, So he came to me on trazodone and prozac
along with a calming powder, and one morning I gave
him his meds in his food like I normally did,
and when I.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Came home from work, the trazodone was.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
In my little in my little carpet, and I was like, well,
he's off that trazodone.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now he's all good.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And you know what's funny is because he went off
the trasidone on his own because he knew. He's like,
I'm here, you know what, I'm safe. Stop drugging me.
I think you put it in that on the carpet
on purpose. But anyway, he was off the trasitone. And
I want to say, was it twenty four hour? When
did you He found the trasidone the next day or.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Something when I got home from work, so it was
the same day.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And you're like, you know what, I'm not gonna give
it to him. I'm gonna see what happens. And he's fine.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He's great, he's great.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Fine.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I mean, he's a little you know, he's got those
puppy behaviors, right, because he was never allowed to be
a true puppy, so he's got some puppy behaviors.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But for the most part, he is doing great.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He's off the pros Act, common powders, trasdone, He's off
of everything.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I can't believe the amount of meds this dog was on,
by the way, and a lot of people are like,
my dog is anxiety, give me meds. Do you know
what those meds do to your dog's liver? Because at
some point their liver's gonna conk out and you're gonna
be like, what do I do? And then they're gonna
give you DENI maarn or another pill to help the liver.
It's the less you can do, the better.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Absolutely, I totally agree with that he's off the meds.
He has those puppy behaviors, and that is just behavioral
management in the right way and not just doping up
your dog.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And you know, you have to be smart too, because
she was bringing Allie into a house that already had
two dogs that were there for a while, and and
he could have been aggressive with feeding. You didn't know,
so you separate them. You don't feed them together and
this you know, right next to each other, right, didn't
you separate them when you got them home to feed first?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I don't know that because I kind of wanted to
find out what the behaviors were. So you can't manage
a behavior unless you know what the behavior is. True
so I was like, let me see what's gonna happen,
and if it goes sideways, and I'll deal with it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But they they don't. Really. The one who has more food.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Aggression is Gracey, the Princess.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
The princess yeah like this even like this week Oliver.
She's eating very slowly, which is not her norm, and
Oliver is just waiting until she finishes, and he wants
to go over to the dish so bad, and Grace
is like, I'm not having this and she'll growl and
like bite, but she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
She doesn't bite him.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It's not gonna be a knockdown, drag out fight. She's
just warning him she's back off. This is my food.
And if Ollie was really truly aggressive and had to
be medicated once she had that behavior, he would have
went after her absolutely, and he doesn't. She good.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, And then you have poor Charlie who's like, yeah, stuck,
and he's just stuck in the middle of it all.
I love him, He's so cute and he just like
sits and stares at me and stares at the.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Dogs and he's like, I don't I don't know what
to do. I don't want to get involved. I just don't.
I'm just gonna sit over here and watch you guys.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You know what, Since you have adopted so many dogs,
if somebody's thinking about adopting, how about give us some
tips dog adoption tips, whether it is dealing with the
adoption agency or what's the first thing you need to
do when you bring your adopted dog home? Is there
something like I have a safe space, give him a crate? Like,
is there something you think you should do well?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I definitely think that you have to create your dog.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I do.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I'm not a big fan of keeping them created, but
if you create them, and I have a big setup,
like Ali is not in like just a crate. He's
got a whole pen, so he has space to move around.
But I think that that as their safety. You can't
use it as a place for punishment.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Jack is obsessed with his cratey. Yeah, as a puppy.
I had him in the crate, you know, just for
nap times. Now I try he's eleven. I tried to
take the crate out of the living room and I
remember through a fit. So now the crate just stays
there with the door open, and he's in it all
day on his own.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And I think you have to remember that typically rescues
have kind of a background where something has happened to them,
whether it's abuse, neglect, they were on the street, whatever,
so their level of safety in security.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Is very very low. They don't trust humans.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Shocker, I don't either.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I don't either.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So I think that that's part of it, is that
you have to give them this safe space and allow
them to make mistakes. You know, they may pee on
the floor, they may poop on the floor, they may bark,
they may.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Have all these little things. You just have to allow them.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And they say it typically takes at least two years before.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
A rescue is settled in. Is settled in and a
safe space. I love that because I think that's key
when you bring them home, make sure they have their
own little area of their own little space. But then
the other thing I think that's really very important, which
and I you know you're the expert, is that if
you're rescuing a dog, keep the dog on a leash.
(09:58):
Don't think you've got this great dog, you follow me everywhere.
I'm just going to take him for a walk outside,
not on a leash. Because they have rescue dogs are
fight or flight and you don't know what's going to
trigger them. And I remember chasing after Gracie got out
of the house. Oh my god, she was gone, gone.
And how long did you have her when she did that? Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I had had her for a while at that point.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She had been with me for a while and not
quite a year. No, I wasn't settled in.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
No, she wasn't.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And that was I think that was the second time
she took off. And just recently Oliver took off.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I remember, and that's right. He's not fully settled in. Knockout,
and he took off.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
He took off to my neighbor's house.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Fortunately, the groomer was coming to my house, so I
had him with his collar and harness on, and when
he stopped for a second, I picked him up by
his harness.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
My mom was at my house. Yep, I told you this,
and I was like.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Mom, go get the treats. She's like, what, I'm look
at the trees, shake the can, shake the hand, what
do you say? Forget it?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And so we went back inside and she was in
there with a towel and she wrapped him up. And
I think in those moments you want to punish because
they ran away, but you have to remember, this is
where fight flight fright, that's where they're at. And so
we scooped him up. We wrapped him up in a towel.
We gave him a ton of love and attention.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And let's be honest, whose fault was it? It was
my mother's fault, exactly. Do you know it wasn't Ally's fault.
When the door was open, he went out. He's a dog.
You have don't no idea what kind of training they
don't have? Recall Like when Jack was a puppy and
I brought him home, I went right into training with him.
He knows the recall word. Every dog should have one word,
and you always practice it. And if like Jack's, I
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say his name Jack, and then I say, now, I
don't want to say it because he'll come running in
here and he'll break a nail. He will, because that's
how Baddie is, right, he will, So we can't do it.
But you always teach them that one word. It doesn't
matter what it is. It could be Charlie vodka and
he'd have to come running when you say it. But
when they do, you give him a high value treat
that they don't always have the same treet you give
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him every day, right, and I and Allie didn't have that.
You don't know if a dog has a recall or
how to train they are.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And you do have to have this tone, yes, so
you can't yell at them. No. The only time you
should be using a stern voice with your dogs is
when it is imminent danger, exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And that's when I do the jack n O W
and I do and wo, and it's coming handy. A
couple of times when he was a puppy, he followed
another dog into the woods. It was like ten o'clock
at night, and everybody was screaming, and I told everybody
to be quiet, and I said his recall word. He
was the only dog that came back through the woods
straight to me in the middle of the night, in
the pitch dark. It reminds me of now, if we
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could teach our men those words, although we don't have
men right now, but when we do. I'm going to
take my man, my new man, to training, and I'm
gonna give him a recall word. We don't have that,
and I'll give him I'll give him a mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
We've already decided that we are the Golden Girls. Now
we're not.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You decided that I'm getting a baby daddy for my doggie,
a doggie daddy.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Hey, you named my car Blanche.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
What are you talking? I did not? Did I? Yes,
you did. Well, that's your car. My car is named Doug.
Let me dog. Anyway, if you're rescuing, we'll keep it
at that because I think since you're my new co host,
you've got to come up with seriously, like I want
you to come up with five essential tips for anybody
thinking of rescuing. And I think those two are great.
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I think you always have to be on a leash
until your dog knows a recaller you know how trained
he is, and give him a safe space when they
come home. Those are the top two for me. I
love that you're giving me homework. That's your homework, girl.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I love that homework.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Anyway, we are back and we're going to delve into
a lot of health and wellness issues, and so I
have a lot going on with my dog and I
think last time I left in twenty twenty, I should
have to listen back to see what he was going through.
But in a nutshell, my dog has had so many
health issues. It's the same thing. No, but here's the deal.
(14:01):
If you follow along, you know he's had food allergies,
ear infections, skin infections, vomiting on and off, diarrhea, broken nails,
possible Addison's disease, liver number issues, low platelets, and this
is a lot. This is everything I've been through with
this dog. Three months ago, he was diagnosed with IBD
irritable bowel disease through an ultrasound and this new internal
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medicine VET I love her. She said, He's probably had
this his whole life IBS, IBD and guess what it causes.
Liver numbers to be off, broken nails, ear infections, liver
numbers to be off, of vomiting, diarrhea. So I'm hoping
once the IBD gets under control all those issues that
nobody diagnosed or told me about after going to five
(14:49):
million different vets, I'm hoping it resolves. Well, I'm hoping
to right, he's probably had four surgeries for broken nails.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I have three rescues with no problems, not ace knock
on one yet.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have no problems. Yeah, they dumpster die.
They will eat anything. No, no, Oli.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Can't have beef, okay, beef exactly. And you know the
biggest allergens are chicken and beef. So if you think
your dog is a food allergy, take him off chicken
and beef and.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Stead Ollie, Iley cannot have beef. Beef. It is for
explosive diarrhea.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
That's horrible, exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It was the first time I gave him beef and
I was like, oh, oh, we're not going. I'm outside
at three o'clock in the morning, like watering off my
deck because and are.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
On zero meds. Actually, my dog is not on any
meds right now, but he's on probiotics, and I do.
If your dog is IBD or IBS, they have LOWB
twelve and the low B twelve causes the nail cracking.
My guess is my dog has always had low B twelve,
So I give him an injection. I give him a
shot of B twelve in his back sub Q once
a week.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
My dogs, all three of them, are all on cosequin
Oh yeah, I love cosequine.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I tried it on my dog and he got an
ear infection.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So he is not on it, I know, and I do.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's either chicken or bee flavored. I think mine is
chicken flavored.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
But going back to what we were talking about with
Oliver and his trazodone, prozac, calming, powders, all this stuff,
I think because he's part Corgi, his joins hurt, so
his knees are not connected properly.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Because he's Corgi.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So as soon as I put him on Coseaquin, it
was like a different dog.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He was so.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Happy night and day, night and day, night and day.
And I do think diet exercise is key for any
dog going through any health issues. Like literally look into
the diet. We don't know what we're feeding our dmn
dogs absolutely. I mean when my dog was diagnosed, he
was on a VET prescribed diet, So that tells you, yeah,
you don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
What's in those foods.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You have to be very vigilant as to what you're
feeding your dogs to have them have the happiest, healthiest
life ever ever ever.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Lauren is my New Coast.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And by the way, your best friend.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I know. Lauren is my best friend and her dogs
are like my little dogs. They are She's the only
one I really trust with trust right, because we're anmal
dog moms. We are crazy. We're crazy dog moms. I
bought you a dog mom hat, you did, And I
have a dog mom T shirt I wear all the time.
Is that bad? That's bad. We're like cat ladies but
with dogs.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh I wear my dog mom hat, my dog shirt.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
What does your shirt say right now? It says she's
wearing a T shirt that says I just want to
drink wine, save animals and take naps. That is her
except for substitute the wine for vodka and the cats
for dogs. Oh does it say cats? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Oh, it says animals, animals, animal. I would love to
rescue every animal on the planet. I'd actually like to
get some goats.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
She would, And I will say, you get a lot
of flat because I've got to design her dog. But
I tell you what. This is my thoughts on adoption
versus getting a dog through a breaeder. I don't care
what you do. Whatever moves you, whatever you want to do,
do it, but you need to go to a reputable breeder.
Here's my problem with people to get these fancy Bernie
Doodle snicker throodles or whatever when you do it online,
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you see a picture online and then you have it
shipped to you from Colorado or wherever you are. That
is a puppy mill. If you cannot drive to the
breeder's house, see the facility, see the mother, see the father,
talk to the breeder, see how they're bred. Don't do
it because you are only fueling puppy mills and those
puppies end up in horrible situations. If you're going to
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get a dog like I did, I drove, it was
a two hour drive. I met the breeder, I went
into the house, I saw the dogs, and I was
there for the whole process. If you can't do that,
you need to adopt a dog.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I absolutely agree.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't think that you do have to be vigilant
as to whether it even if it's an adoption, like
you have to be absolutely vigilant because what happens is
a lot of people now and I'm not saying any
negative about it, but a lot of people are rescuing
pit bulls, and when you rescue a pit bull, you
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have to be vigilant about what.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You're doing everything. Again, you don't know their training.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Correct, you don't know their bloodline and don't know anything,
so you just have to be vigilant because it's not
the dog's fault.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And before I get hate mail for not adopting, I
did go through two different adoption agencies for labordoodle, and
I was declined by both adoption agencies, which, by the way,
I wanted I think at the time eight hundred dollars
adoption fee, which I mean I paid more for my dog,
but that's still a lot. And they declined me. I'm
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a crazy dog mom. Do you know which money I
spent on my dog? And I would rather stay home
all day and just feed my dog pieces of rice
one at a time, and make sure he's okay, yes,
and take them to the best doctors and veterinarians on
the planet. And I get denied by two different adoption agencies.
That's why I started the process looking for a reputable breeder.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
And how difficult was my process for adopting Allie horrible?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It was months on end.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
And I get it, they have to be strict when
they're adopting out these dogs. They've already been through a lot, right,
But I was so disheartened through both of the adoption
agencies I went through that I was like, I will
go to a breeder.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You went with me to get gracing.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I did.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
We drove to Southbury, Connecticut, which I didn't even know
we were somewhere in New York state.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, it was pretty close to New York and far away.
It was a long drive. She was at a foster home.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Cuckoo foster home too, what a bunch of cuckoos.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And I had to bring Riley.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Her older dog, which love Riley, I know him. Which
we will discuss Riley's passing at some point because it
was what was the name of.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It, degenerative myelopathity.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yes, I do want to talk about that. A lot
of shepherds get that, a lot of bigger dogs get that,
and we do want to talk about that at some point. Okay, Yeah,
we drove all the way to New York City. We
were at we drove to another planet. She's like, will
you go to go with me to this far fuster
place to look at this dog? And I get in
the car two hours later, I'm like, are we almost there?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I felt like it was like forever it was for
and ironically it was here.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
We were having a girl's.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Day a shocker with martinis.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
With martini's and cocktails and whatever, because you're the hostess
with the mostess.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And we found her online.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I don't remember, Yes, yes we did.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
We found her online and I was like, this is
what I want. I want her. I want to bring
her home. And I started the process. That process was easy.
Charlie came from the Connecticut Humane Society, which is they
were great too.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Oh, they were amazed.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
They adopted two cats from them. I no longer have cats,
nor will I have another one, but I did adopt
two cats from them, and they were great.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I think they're.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Called Humane World now because they changed their name because
they want all animals to be safe.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And I love it so I and they were amazed.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
The adoption agent that I dealt with, he was so good.
And but Ali was was very difficult, very difficult.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
It was like a six month process.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
They checked all her references, called all her veterinarians, called me, yeah,
and they were asking me questions about I don't remember
what it was, good question, do you think she'll take
care of Alli? Go listen. If you don't give this
dog to this woman asap, you're gonna be very sorry. Yeah.
I mean, this is the best house this dog could
absolutely have on the planet.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Nuff said, Yeah, he absolutely he was. His name was Rory.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, a couple of Martinez. You wouldn't be able to
call him.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
He'd be run And when I went out to I
had to bring my dogs out there, and then they
had to bring.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, it was a big Rory there.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But he now, Ali was absolutely in love.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
With my mother. Yes, he is so attached to my mom.
He has all these puppy behaviors and the second my
mother shows.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Up, He's like, look at me, and I'm so good.
I didn't par poo on the floor, I haven't run away,
i haven't done a darn things.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm not gonna bark, I'm not gonna wine. I'm good.
Grandma's here.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I would say, just know, if you're gonna adopt, and
you're gonna go through an adoption agency, they're probably gonna
make you jump through hoops. Just be ready. I wasn't ready.
I thought I am the best dog mom on the planet.
I've had dogs my whole life. I don't have children.
I have savings accounts for my dogs. So I'm gonna
get this labbordyodole through this rescue and boy, I was wrong.
They will put you through the ringer. Most adoption agencies
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want references. They are going to contact any veterinarian you've
ever gone to for any reason. Oh, I had to.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Get Gracie that extra shot.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
They're going to make sure that your dogs are and
we can get into vaccinations because I'm a lessons more
person myself, just because I know my dog's reactions to
certain vaccines. But make sure all your dogs that you've
ever had you are a vaccinator. You know, there's a
lot of stuff. It was one vaccine that Lauren didn't
want to give Gracie because we weren't sure through the
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adoption agency if she had already had the vaccine, and
then if you over vaccinate, you're in a world as shit. Yes,
so she was waiting to get the information to find
out if Gracie had had that vaccine. Anyway, this adoption
agency for Olie forced you to get your other dog vaccinated, Yes,
they did. So you're gonna run, You're gonna jump through hoops,
and it is worth it when you bring home a
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rescue dog. I am sure, but I tried twice and
I don't know if I would ever do it again
unless I went through SBCI, like the the Humane Society
is where I would go because I really do think
it's an easier process. I think they care just as
much as other rescue stages, and it's an easier process,
and they're going to make sure that whatever animal you're
adopting is right for you and your home anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, they absolutely will. They're amazing.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's where I rescued Riley.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, yeah, and she was the most amazing dog on
the planet.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I know we all say we have the most amazing
dogs on the planet, and we are.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
All right, heah, we are.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Nobody is wrong. If you are down with dogs, then you.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Know, yes that your dog, We love your puppies too, Yes, absolutely.
I say my dogs are the best, but I know
that everybody's dogs are the best.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
They really are. Listen, we're gonna touch on a lot
of subjects, a lot of health and wellness issues. It's
two girls chatting about dogs and having cocktails. We want
you to join us. Every week. We've got a Facebook
page down with dogs on facebooks, and make sure you
follow that because then you'll see, uh, we'll have lots
of contests. We'll let you know when a new podcast drops,
and you can basically listen to Down with Dogs podcasts
anywhere you get your podcast check us out. We're we're
(25:41):
pretty much everywhere and on the iHeartRadio app. Are you
gonna dip out on me? Are you gonna be like
a full on co host to Down with Dogs? Lauren?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I am a full on co host Down with Dogs?
Oh my god, I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Listen. Reach out to us on Facebook if you have
any questions or maybe there's an episode you want us
to touch on. Trust me, we have traveled with our dogs.
We have had health issues, behavioral issues. We know the
ins and outs everything dog related. Yeah, we do reach
out to us if feel like Courtney Lauren, I want
to talk to you about my rescue dog who likes
to lift his leg and pee on the on the
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side of the couch. Trust me, we can cover that.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And my dog does that.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Oh, my dog is anal plans are a mess. Guess what.
I am an expert in dog anal glands.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
She was literally on the phone with me this morning expressing.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, my dog's glance any who diet, I am familiar
with every diet on the planet.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And I am looking into a recent research study about
your dogs and your stress level and how it impacts
your dogs.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, or when your dog is stressed out, it stresses
me out. When he's prancing around at the door, I'm like,
oh my god, is it an IBD flare? Now I'm flaring.
Now we both have diarrhea.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
You you probably started the prancing because you're so strang
knows who knows?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Probably all right? Down with Dogs is back. I'm so excited. Lauren,
my best friend is the new co host. Check us
out every week a new episode with Down with Dogs.
Cocktail Time cocktail. Who are we kidding? We've been drinking
the whole time here.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Cheers, cheers, Love our dog moms.
Oh my god, it has been a minute. It is
Down with Dogs. What's up? It's Courtney. It's been probably
five years since a podcast was posted. We won't get
into why, just lots of stuff going on, but I
must say Down with Dogs is back, and I'm super
excited because I've been trying to get this person to
be my co host for i'd probably five years or more,
(00:23):
and she's agreed to do it. My best friend Lauren
is now my co host. Welcome Lauren, Hello everybody. I
am so excited because we are two dog crazy, dog
moms crazy. And if you think I'm crazy for starting
Down with Dogs podcasts and I talk about anal glands
and ibs and dog stuff, my girlfriend Lauren is like
crazier than I am about her dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I am.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I am crazier about my puppers than anybody.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And if you're a dog mom like we are, then
you know it's all about dogs. Today we're having a
cocktail day at my house, a girl's day, and it's
all about the dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It is all about the dogs.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So Down with Dogs is a podcast health and wellness
for your dogs. We are not veterinarians. I say that
every time we do a podcast, but I've got a
lot of advice to give you because i have all
recap on eleven year old labradoodle who has had health
issues his entire life, and we can go over some
of those and you can learn from everything I've been through.
And Lauren has three rescues. My dog is Jackson, an
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eleven year old labradoodle, your first the three that you
have right now, your first rescue out of those three,
because she's had five hundred rescues. And the podcast isn't
that long. Can we start with Gracie.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Gracie was a rescue and she is eleven years old.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Her breed is she is a Papion mix and she's adorable.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
She is adorable, and she rules the household. She is
in charge. She is the alpha female. And then I
have Courtney's favorite.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh, Charlie bo Barley.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, Charlie and all of my dogs have very official
names that will into it at some point. But Charlie
is nine and he is a Shepherd beagle. So imagine
you have a German shepherd and you throw him in
the dryer and he shrinks down.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And he's got little tiny hot dog legs.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
He's got little tiny hot dog legs and giant ears and.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
A giant package.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
He does have a giant package. It's awfully embarrassing. Sometimes
it is, it is, and then I My most recent
who has now been there for like two and a
half years, is Oliver, and he is a Papillon Corgie mix.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
He looks like a baby fox. He does.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
He does.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
He actually looks like if Gracie and Charlie had an
incestuous relationship and had a baby, he would have been
their baby.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
How old is he? I forget he is.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
He's gonna be three. I brought him home. He's gonna
be three. He's gonna be three, Okay, I thought I
was younger. He was when I brought him home. He
was a year and a half. I started the adoption
process when he was seven months old. Charlie Aberhoon he
was seven, Gracie was a year and a half, and
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I think Oliver was when I started the process, he
was seven months. And then the process took a long time,
so he, you know, was a year and such.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And I will say that all rescues come with their
own sets of problems or whatever health issues. I want
to say all he's had more than your other two
Charlie and Gracie. Right. Oh, absolutely, he's had more. So
I don't know, maybe our first episode, instead of getting
into my dog's IBD and what's going onund with his issues,
(03:44):
maybe we should just dedicate this first podcast back since
twenty twenty, by the way, on rescues, because Lauren, if
you are a person who rescues or you're thinking about rescuing,
she has got so many great tips and tricks and
how to get your rescue to get situated in a
new home and a new environment. And we can start
(04:05):
with Allie because Ollie came to Lauren on a plethora
of medication because the rescue place that you got him
from said he suffered from anxiety and aggression.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Correct, And their version of aggression was he would be
eating his food or playing with a toy and they
would smack him with the inside of a wrapping paper roll.
And I was like, I was eating and somebody did that,
(04:40):
I'd bite your arm off too, Stay.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Away from my food.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Right, So he came to me on trazodone and prozac
along with a calming powder, and one morning I gave
him his meds in his food like I normally did,
and when I.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Came home from work, the trazodone was.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
In my little in my little carpet, and I was like, well,
he's off that trazodone.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now he's all good.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And you know what's funny is because he went off
the trasidone on his own because he knew. He's like,
I'm here, you know what, I'm safe. Stop drugging me.
I think you put it in that on the carpet
on purpose. But anyway, he was off the trasitone. And
I want to say, was it twenty four hour? When
did you He found the trasidone the next day or.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Something when I got home from work, so it was
the same day.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And you're like, you know what, I'm not gonna give
it to him. I'm gonna see what happens. And he's fine.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He's great, he's great.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Fine.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I mean, he's a little you know, he's got those
puppy behaviors, right, because he was never allowed to be
a true puppy, so he's got some puppy behaviors.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But for the most part, he is doing great.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He's off the pros Act, common powders, trasdone, He's off
of everything.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I can't believe the amount of meds this dog was on,
by the way, and a lot of people are like,
my dog is anxiety, give me meds. Do you know
what those meds do to your dog's liver? Because at
some point their liver's gonna conk out and you're gonna
be like, what do I do? And then they're gonna
give you DENI maarn or another pill to help the liver.
It's the less you can do, the better.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Absolutely, I totally agree with that he's off the meds.
He has those puppy behaviors, and that is just behavioral
management in the right way and not just doping up
your dog.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And you know, you have to be smart too, because
she was bringing Allie into a house that already had
two dogs that were there for a while, and and
he could have been aggressive with feeding. You didn't know,
so you separate them. You don't feed them together and
this you know, right next to each other, right, didn't
you separate them when you got them home to feed first?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I don't know that because I kind of wanted to
find out what the behaviors were. So you can't manage
a behavior unless you know what the behavior is. True
so I was like, let me see what's gonna happen,
and if it goes sideways, and I'll deal with it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But they they don't. Really. The one who has more food.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Aggression is Gracey, the Princess.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
The princess yeah like this even like this week Oliver.
She's eating very slowly, which is not her norm, and
Oliver is just waiting until she finishes, and he wants
to go over to the dish so bad, and Grace
is like, I'm not having this and she'll growl and
like bite, but she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
She doesn't bite him.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It's not gonna be a knockdown, drag out fight. She's
just warning him she's back off. This is my food.
And if Ollie was really truly aggressive and had to
be medicated once she had that behavior, he would have
went after her absolutely, and he doesn't. She good.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, And then you have poor Charlie who's like, yeah, stuck,
and he's just stuck in the middle of it all.
I love him, He's so cute and he just like
sits and stares at me and stares at the.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Dogs and he's like, I don't I don't know what
to do. I don't want to get involved. I just don't.
I'm just gonna sit over here and watch you guys.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You know what, Since you have adopted so many dogs,
if somebody's thinking about adopting, how about give us some
tips dog adoption tips, whether it is dealing with the
adoption agency or what's the first thing you need to
do when you bring your adopted dog home? Is there
something like I have a safe space, give him a crate? Like,
is there something you think you should do well?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I definitely think that you have to create your dog.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I do.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I'm not a big fan of keeping them created, but
if you create them, and I have a big setup,
like Ali is not in like just a crate. He's
got a whole pen, so he has space to move around.
But I think that that as their safety. You can't
use it as a place for punishment.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Jack is obsessed with his cratey. Yeah, as a puppy.
I had him in the crate, you know, just for
nap times. Now I try he's eleven. I tried to
take the crate out of the living room and I
remember through a fit. So now the crate just stays
there with the door open, and he's in it all
day on his own.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And I think you have to remember that typically rescues
have kind of a background where something has happened to them,
whether it's abuse, neglect, they were on the street, whatever,
so their level of safety in security.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Is very very low. They don't trust humans.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Shocker, I don't either.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I don't either.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So I think that that's part of it, is that
you have to give them this safe space and allow
them to make mistakes. You know, they may pee on
the floor, they may poop on the floor, they may bark,
they may.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Have all these little things. You just have to allow them.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And they say it typically takes at least two years before.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
A rescue is settled in. Is settled in and a
safe space. I love that because I think that's key
when you bring them home, make sure they have their
own little area of their own little space. But then
the other thing I think that's really very important, which
and I you know you're the expert, is that if
you're rescuing a dog, keep the dog on a leash.
(09:58):
Don't think you've got this great dog, you follow me everywhere.
I'm just going to take him for a walk outside,
not on a leash. Because they have rescue dogs are
fight or flight and you don't know what's going to
trigger them. And I remember chasing after Gracie got out
of the house. Oh my god, she was gone, gone.
And how long did you have her when she did that? Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I had had her for a while at that point.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She had been with me for a while and not
quite a year. No, I wasn't settled in.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
No, she wasn't.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And that was I think that was the second time
she took off. And just recently Oliver took off.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I remember, and that's right. He's not fully settled in. Knockout,
and he took off.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
He took off to my neighbor's house.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Fortunately, the groomer was coming to my house, so I
had him with his collar and harness on, and when
he stopped for a second, I picked him up by
his harness.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
My mom was at my house. Yep, I told you this,
and I was like.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Mom, go get the treats. She's like, what, I'm look
at the trees, shake the can, shake the hand, what
do you say? Forget it?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And so we went back inside and she was in
there with a towel and she wrapped him up. And
I think in those moments you want to punish because
they ran away, but you have to remember, this is
where fight flight fright, that's where they're at. And so
we scooped him up. We wrapped him up in a towel.
We gave him a ton of love and attention.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And let's be honest, whose fault was it? It was
my mother's fault, exactly. Do you know it wasn't Ally's fault.
When the door was open, he went out. He's a dog.
You have don't no idea what kind of training they
don't have? Recall Like when Jack was a puppy and
I brought him home, I went right into training with him.
He knows the recall word. Every dog should have one word,
and you always practice it. And if like Jack's, I
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say his name Jack, and then I say, now, I
don't want to say it because he'll come running in
here and he'll break a nail. He will, because that's
how Baddie is, right, he will, So we can't do it.
But you always teach them that one word. It doesn't
matter what it is. It could be Charlie vodka and
he'd have to come running when you say it. But
when they do, you give him a high value treat
that they don't always have the same treet you give
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him every day, right, and I and Allie didn't have that.
You don't know if a dog has a recall or
how to train they are.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And you do have to have this tone, yes, so
you can't yell at them. No. The only time you
should be using a stern voice with your dogs is
when it is imminent danger, exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And that's when I do the jack n O W
and I do and wo, and it's coming handy. A
couple of times when he was a puppy, he followed
another dog into the woods. It was like ten o'clock
at night, and everybody was screaming, and I told everybody
to be quiet, and I said his recall word. He
was the only dog that came back through the woods
straight to me in the middle of the night, in
the pitch dark. It reminds me of now, if we
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could teach our men those words, although we don't have
men right now, but when we do. I'm going to
take my man, my new man, to training, and I'm
gonna give him a recall word. We don't have that,
and I'll give him I'll give him a mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
We've already decided that we are the Golden Girls. Now
we're not.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You decided that I'm getting a baby daddy for my doggie,
a doggie daddy.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Hey, you named my car Blanche.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
What are you talking? I did not? Did I? Yes,
you did. Well, that's your car. My car is named Doug.
Let me dog. Anyway, if you're rescuing, we'll keep it
at that because I think since you're my new co host,
you've got to come up with seriously, like I want
you to come up with five essential tips for anybody
thinking of rescuing. And I think those two are great.
(13:26):
I think you always have to be on a leash
until your dog knows a recaller you know how trained
he is, and give him a safe space when they
come home. Those are the top two for me. I
love that you're giving me homework. That's your homework, girl.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I love that homework.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Anyway, we are back and we're going to delve into
a lot of health and wellness issues, and so I
have a lot going on with my dog and I
think last time I left in twenty twenty, I should
have to listen back to see what he was going through.
But in a nutshell, my dog has had so many
health issues. It's the same thing. No, but here's the deal.
(14:01):
If you follow along, you know he's had food allergies,
ear infections, skin infections, vomiting on and off, diarrhea, broken nails,
possible Addison's disease, liver number issues, low platelets, and this
is a lot. This is everything I've been through with
this dog. Three months ago, he was diagnosed with IBD
irritable bowel disease through an ultrasound and this new internal
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medicine VET I love her. She said, He's probably had
this his whole life IBS, IBD and guess what it causes.
Liver numbers to be off, broken nails, ear infections, liver
numbers to be off, of vomiting, diarrhea. So I'm hoping
once the IBD gets under control all those issues that
nobody diagnosed or told me about after going to five
(14:49):
million different vets, I'm hoping it resolves. Well, I'm hoping
to right, he's probably had four surgeries for broken nails.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I have three rescues with no problems, not ace knock
on one yet.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have no problems. Yeah, they dumpster die.
They will eat anything. No, no, Oli.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Can't have beef, okay, beef exactly. And you know the
biggest allergens are chicken and beef. So if you think
your dog is a food allergy, take him off chicken
and beef and.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Stead Ollie, Iley cannot have beef. Beef. It is for
explosive diarrhea.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
That's horrible, exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It was the first time I gave him beef and
I was like, oh, oh, we're not going. I'm outside
at three o'clock in the morning, like watering off my
deck because and are.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
On zero meds. Actually, my dog is not on any
meds right now, but he's on probiotics, and I do.
If your dog is IBD or IBS, they have LOWB
twelve and the low B twelve causes the nail cracking.
My guess is my dog has always had low B twelve,
So I give him an injection. I give him a
shot of B twelve in his back sub Q once
a week.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
My dogs, all three of them, are all on cosequin
Oh yeah, I love cosequine.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I tried it on my dog and he got an
ear infection.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So he is not on it, I know, and I do.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's either chicken or bee flavored. I think mine is
chicken flavored.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
But going back to what we were talking about with
Oliver and his trazodone, prozac, calming, powders, all this stuff,
I think because he's part Corgi, his joins hurt, so
his knees are not connected properly.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Because he's Corgi.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So as soon as I put him on Coseaquin, it
was like a different dog.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He was so.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Happy night and day, night and day, night and day.
And I do think diet exercise is key for any
dog going through any health issues. Like literally look into
the diet. We don't know what we're feeding our dmn
dogs absolutely. I mean when my dog was diagnosed, he
was on a VET prescribed diet, So that tells you, yeah,
you don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
What's in those foods.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You have to be very vigilant as to what you're
feeding your dogs to have them have the happiest, healthiest
life ever ever ever.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Lauren is my New Coast.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And by the way, your best friend.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I know. Lauren is my best friend and her dogs
are like my little dogs. They are She's the only
one I really trust with trust right, because we're anmal
dog moms. We are crazy. We're crazy dog moms. I
bought you a dog mom hat, you did, And I
have a dog mom T shirt I wear all the time.
Is that bad? That's bad. We're like cat ladies but
with dogs.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh I wear my dog mom hat, my dog shirt.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
What does your shirt say right now? It says she's
wearing a T shirt that says I just want to
drink wine, save animals and take naps. That is her
except for substitute the wine for vodka and the cats
for dogs. Oh does it say cats? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Oh, it says animals, animals, animal. I would love to
rescue every animal on the planet. I'd actually like to
get some goats.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
She would, And I will say, you get a lot
of flat because I've got to design her dog. But
I tell you what. This is my thoughts on adoption
versus getting a dog through a breaeder. I don't care
what you do. Whatever moves you, whatever you want to do,
do it, but you need to go to a reputable breeder.
Here's my problem with people to get these fancy Bernie
Doodle snicker throodles or whatever when you do it online,
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you see a picture online and then you have it
shipped to you from Colorado or wherever you are. That
is a puppy mill. If you cannot drive to the
breeder's house, see the facility, see the mother, see the father,
talk to the breeder, see how they're bred. Don't do
it because you are only fueling puppy mills and those
puppies end up in horrible situations. If you're going to
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get a dog like I did, I drove, it was
a two hour drive. I met the breeder, I went
into the house, I saw the dogs, and I was
there for the whole process. If you can't do that,
you need to adopt a dog.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I absolutely agree.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't think that you do have to be vigilant
as to whether it even if it's an adoption, like
you have to be absolutely vigilant because what happens is
a lot of people now and I'm not saying any
negative about it, but a lot of people are rescuing
pit bulls, and when you rescue a pit bull, you
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have to be vigilant about what.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You're doing everything. Again, you don't know their training.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Correct, you don't know their bloodline and don't know anything,
so you just have to be vigilant because it's not
the dog's fault.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And before I get hate mail for not adopting, I
did go through two different adoption agencies for labordoodle, and
I was declined by both adoption agencies, which, by the way,
I wanted I think at the time eight hundred dollars
adoption fee, which I mean I paid more for my dog,
but that's still a lot. And they declined me. I'm
(19:40):
a crazy dog mom. Do you know which money I
spent on my dog? And I would rather stay home
all day and just feed my dog pieces of rice
one at a time, and make sure he's okay, yes,
and take them to the best doctors and veterinarians on
the planet. And I get denied by two different adoption agencies.
That's why I started the process looking for a reputable breeder.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
And how difficult was my process for adopting Allie horrible?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It was months on end.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
And I get it, they have to be strict when
they're adopting out these dogs. They've already been through a lot, right,
But I was so disheartened through both of the adoption
agencies I went through that I was like, I will
go to a breeder.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You went with me to get gracing.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I did.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
We drove to Southbury, Connecticut, which I didn't even know
we were somewhere in New York state.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, it was pretty close to New York and far away.
It was a long drive. She was at a foster home.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Cuckoo foster home too, what a bunch of cuckoos.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And I had to bring Riley.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Her older dog, which love Riley, I know him. Which
we will discuss Riley's passing at some point because it
was what was the name of.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It, degenerative myelopathity.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yes, I do want to talk about that. A lot
of shepherds get that, a lot of bigger dogs get that,
and we do want to talk about that at some point. Okay, Yeah,
we drove all the way to New York City. We
were at we drove to another planet. She's like, will
you go to go with me to this far fuster
place to look at this dog? And I get in
the car two hours later, I'm like, are we almost there?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I felt like it was like forever it was for
and ironically it was here.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
We were having a girl's.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Day a shocker with martinis.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
With martini's and cocktails and whatever, because you're the hostess
with the mostess.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And we found her online.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I don't remember, Yes, yes we did.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
We found her online and I was like, this is
what I want. I want her. I want to bring
her home. And I started the process. That process was easy.
Charlie came from the Connecticut Humane Society, which is they
were great too.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Oh, they were amazed.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
They adopted two cats from them. I no longer have cats,
nor will I have another one, but I did adopt
two cats from them, and they were great.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I think they're.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Called Humane World now because they changed their name because
they want all animals to be safe.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And I love it so I and they were amazed.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
The adoption agent that I dealt with, he was so good.
And but Ali was was very difficult, very difficult.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
It was like a six month process.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
They checked all her references, called all her veterinarians, called me, yeah,
and they were asking me questions about I don't remember
what it was, good question, do you think she'll take
care of Alli? Go listen. If you don't give this
dog to this woman asap, you're gonna be very sorry. Yeah.
I mean, this is the best house this dog could
absolutely have on the planet.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Nuff said, Yeah, he absolutely he was. His name was Rory.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, a couple of Martinez. You wouldn't be able to
call him.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
He'd be run And when I went out to I
had to bring my dogs out there, and then they
had to bring.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, it was a big Rory there.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But he now, Ali was absolutely in love.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
With my mother. Yes, he is so attached to my mom.
He has all these puppy behaviors and the second my
mother shows.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Up, He's like, look at me, and I'm so good.
I didn't par poo on the floor, I haven't run away,
i haven't done a darn things.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm not gonna bark, I'm not gonna wine. I'm good.
Grandma's here.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I would say, just know, if you're gonna adopt, and
you're gonna go through an adoption agency, they're probably gonna
make you jump through hoops. Just be ready. I wasn't ready.
I thought I am the best dog mom on the planet.
I've had dogs my whole life. I don't have children.
I have savings accounts for my dogs. So I'm gonna
get this labbordyodole through this rescue and boy, I was wrong.
They will put you through the ringer. Most adoption agencies
(23:38):
want references. They are going to contact any veterinarian you've
ever gone to for any reason. Oh, I had to.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Get Gracie that extra shot.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
They're going to make sure that your dogs are and
we can get into vaccinations because I'm a lessons more
person myself, just because I know my dog's reactions to
certain vaccines. But make sure all your dogs that you've
ever had you are a vaccinator. You know, there's a
lot of stuff. It was one vaccine that Lauren didn't
want to give Gracie because we weren't sure through the
(24:05):
adoption agency if she had already had the vaccine, and
then if you over vaccinate, you're in a world as shit. Yes,
so she was waiting to get the information to find
out if Gracie had had that vaccine. Anyway, this adoption
agency for Olie forced you to get your other dog vaccinated, Yes,
they did. So you're gonna run, You're gonna jump through hoops,
and it is worth it when you bring home a
(24:26):
rescue dog. I am sure, but I tried twice and
I don't know if I would ever do it again
unless I went through SBCI, like the the Humane Society
is where I would go because I really do think
it's an easier process. I think they care just as
much as other rescue stages, and it's an easier process,
and they're going to make sure that whatever animal you're
adopting is right for you and your home anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, they absolutely will. They're amazing.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's where I rescued Riley.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, yeah, and she was the most amazing dog on
the planet.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I know we all say we have the most amazing
dogs on the planet, and we are.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
All right, heah, we are.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Nobody is wrong. If you are down with dogs, then you.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Know, yes that your dog, We love your puppies too, Yes, absolutely.
I say my dogs are the best, but I know
that everybody's dogs are the best.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
They really are. Listen, we're gonna touch on a lot
of subjects, a lot of health and wellness issues. It's
two girls chatting about dogs and having cocktails. We want
you to join us. Every week. We've got a Facebook
page down with dogs on facebooks, and make sure you
follow that because then you'll see, uh, we'll have lots
of contests. We'll let you know when a new podcast drops,
and you can basically listen to Down with Dogs podcasts
anywhere you get your podcast check us out. We're we're
(25:41):
pretty much everywhere and on the iHeartRadio app. Are you
gonna dip out on me? Are you gonna be like
a full on co host to Down with Dogs? Lauren?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I am a full on co host Down with Dogs?
Oh my god, I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Listen. Reach out to us on Facebook if you have
any questions or maybe there's an episode you want us
to touch on. Trust me, we have traveled with our dogs.
We have had health issues, behavioral issues. We know the
ins and outs everything dog related. Yeah, we do reach
out to us if feel like Courtney Lauren, I want
to talk to you about my rescue dog who likes
to lift his leg and pee on the on the
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side of the couch. Trust me, we can cover that.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And my dog does that.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Oh, my dog is anal plans are a mess. Guess what.
I am an expert in dog anal glands.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
She was literally on the phone with me this morning expressing.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, my dog's glance any who diet, I am familiar
with every diet on the planet.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And I am looking into a recent research study about
your dogs and your stress level and how it impacts
your dogs.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, or when your dog is stressed out, it stresses
me out. When he's prancing around at the door, I'm like,
oh my god, is it an IBD flare? Now I'm flaring.
Now we both have diarrhea.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
You you probably started the prancing because you're so strang
knows who knows?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Probably all right? Down with Dogs is back. I'm so excited. Lauren,
my best friend is the new co host. Check us
out every week a new episode with Down with Dogs.
Cocktail Time cocktail. Who are we kidding? We've been drinking
the whole time here.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Cheers, cheers, Love our dog moms.
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