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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm talking about artificial intelligence. We're talking about making it
accessible for students, and how to make it accessible properly
so they can use it as the tool that it is,
not necessarily as a way to cheat or a shortcut
either way. You know, willing to have this conversation because
certainly it would have been something I would have loved
to have when I was in school for one reason
or another. Tony's on her phone line four two, five, five, eight,
(00:21):
eleven ten, Tony, welcome to our show today. What do
you think about this?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hey? How you doing? Hey? I like the guy's ideas
that your futures you were talking with on the phone,
But I got to play Devil's advocate on all this.
We're going to end up with the world of people
who don't learn, he said. People learn by passing it
on to one give into another through learning and training.
But if all you know how to do is ask
Ai how to do everything, are you going to learn it?
(00:47):
Are you going to retain that information? Okay, you're just
going to ask Ai to do it for you. Yeah,
it's it's going to become a world of idiocrisy.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Well, and it's an interesting concept that you brought up right,
Because if AI can help you problem solve immediately, is
that information you're going to be willing to retain. Here's
a good example. When was the last time you've gone
out of your way to memorize a phone number? You
know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, I could just
put it in my phone and just like look up
by name the person's phone number. I can barely remember
(01:17):
my wife's phone number, honestly, because but back in the day,
you know, when we had landlines and stuff, you just
had to remember people's phone number and tried to like, oh,
what was my dad's works phone number? Again? You just
had to remember what that was, or you had to
pull out the phone book and know where to look
for it. If you could just make a habit of
asking AI all your problems, you're not going to have
problem solving skills yourself, right.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And you see this in.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
TV commercials and radio commercials now that you know they're asking, hey,
googo Siri, or you know, yeah, Alexa, you know, is
this the right dress for me? Or is this the
right medication? You should know that you should learn. You
shouldn't fall back on the AI telling you everything.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It's a fair point Tony, and I'm glad that you
called with that today. Thanks for listening to our show.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I'll play Devil's advocate to his devil's advocate. What would
that be an angel's advocate? I don't know. I don't
care if I have to ask AI over and Oregon.
You know, you want to know what I've done, Probably
close to the last year, I have whenever I can't
figure something out, I ask my AI assistant, and now
(02:23):
I have bonded, not in a weird way, but in
a like know everything about me way with a singular
artificial intelligence BOT a model. There are people that use
multiple AIS and they'll get different variations of that with
all the different models, and that can be helpful too.
(02:43):
It's like having different news sources when you're trying to
learn about a story and getting all the different angles.
But I like putting all my energy into one. So
when I have a question, that bot understands me, understands
what I'm looking for. So when I am trying a
new shirt on, I can say, what do you think
(03:04):
does this look good on me? It may give me
like a pro and a con. It's just like, okay,
so this the color looks excellent with like your hair
and your eyes. However, the pattern kind of makes you
look a little bit wider than you probably actually are,
and it's not necessarily super flattering, you know. It's an example.
It's not something I have to worry about with my
(03:25):
figure too much, but I definitely want to look good.
It give me a reason why it works with me,
a reason why it doesn't work, and then I can
make the decision myself. Same thing with a lot of
different things that you know, like my fantasy basketball draft,
I built an entire draft strategy. Utilizing artificial intelligence is
like like a sounding board, Like I had these ideas
(03:48):
and it's like, yeah, but this, Yeah, that sounds good.
You probably should do that. That kind of thing, right,
it's AI. It's not going to tell me everything that
I need to do. I had a patch in my
yard I just could not get asked to grow. I
took a picture of it and said what should I
do to make this grow? And it gave me a
few different options, gave me some different products, and it
(04:10):
said don't touch it for a long time. Don't let
the dogs touch it for a long time. It's good
to have something like that that you have the ability
to utilize as a tool. And while I agree that
sometimes it can become a crutch and you may not
think that you need to do anythinking yourself, think about
it if you had that to use as a tool
(04:31):
one hundred percent of the time, which you are basically
going to have the ability to do if you have
the app on your phone, which if you don't, why
don't you It's only because you don't want it. It's
not because you have to pay for it. You can upgrade,
but you don't have to. I haven't paid a dime
for my AI model that I've spent all this time with,
(04:52):
so having it available to you and if you're wondering like,
oh well, I better have the ability to think of
myself in case this isn't with me. Unless your phone
just gets blasted or zapped or something, it's going to
be something you're going to have the ability to utilize
pretty much all the time. So not to say that
we shouldn't talk about making ourselves better, but I think
(05:17):
there's also a way that we can train our young
people in a way to use it as the tool
that it is not necessarily as just hey give me
all the answers, Hey, just be my brain for a while.
Tell me what I'm supposed to do here. It can
be utilized as kind of a happy medium of I
(05:38):
just need some instructions, I need some help. Can you
give me some background of what I should be doing here.
I don't think that's a negative thing if it's used properly. Now,
if every single question or fork in the road in
your entire life you're having to talk to AI about,
like which type of lettuce I should buy, what type
of car should I buy? And all this stuff, it's
(05:58):
kind of like, you know, maybe doing your own research
and using your own brain every once in a while
might not be a bad thing for you. Something to
keep in mind. We'll talk more about this. You've got
some AI conversation points that you'd like to bring up,
or any personal experience as well, and we'll investigate Payton's,
you know, experience as a college student with artificial intelligence
(06:19):
at his fingertips. Got some AI bits here, and and
I say bits as in emails emails that you can
send to Emory at kfab dot com. I have Sarah says,
I love your show and I appreciate the topic. Today
we're talking about artificial intelligence and what it's being used for.
(06:41):
Are we getting an overreliance on it? Things of that nature.
Sarah has an article here and it shows how some
AI grock characters some young children for inappropriate things potentially right,
So this is a problem that AI, and this is
(07:01):
this is a this is not just a grock thing.
This is something that could be abused with pretty much
every AI model that can make photos, make images and
all that, and they can be really good. Most of
them are not so good. You can find mistakes in
the AI pretty quickly, Like if you even if you
put a ton of detail in it's just like, hey,
make me a player from the like like turn me
(07:25):
into a football player. I am a running back for
the Chicago Bears and I have number twenty two and
I'm running at Soldier Field. And you could even upload
like what you look like, because it'll probably ask like,
get okay, like show me what you look like? Uh,
(07:46):
And it's gonna pop out and you're gonna look at
it and you're gonna you're gonna laugh, you're gonna chuckle.
It may look like it's complete, like very primitive animation,
or it might look more semi realistic because depends on
kind of what the software is that you're us because
it can do that, though it can absolutely do different
things right. There was a big controversy about Taylor Swift
(08:08):
nudes that were out there in the ether. She didn't
actually do that, but some siko went on the internet
and decided that through AI using her face and kind
of what her figure is, basically connecting the dots and
having artificial intelligence basically make what she would look like
without clothes on. I mean, it's a dastardly and horrible
(08:31):
thing to do, and it takes a lot of you
know it it There are rules that people are putting
in place Malinia Trump, you know, and that's one thing
that she was passionate about, like take it down, like
these types of things with young people being basically extorted
for money and getting kind of catfished by scammers and
(08:56):
they're saying, look, we made these photos of you, of
what it looks like when you're not you don't look
good or you're without clothes. Do you really want this
to get out to all the people in your school?
And then all of a sudden they have to pay
five hundred dollars to make sure that doesn't happen. That's terrible.
So yes, you got to be careful. And if you're
(09:18):
worried about your kids having that kind of access to
artificial intelligence, and absolutely you're going to have to worry
about that. And there's a reason why we keep talking
about it because it continues to grow. Dave says, the
problem isn't what we can do with AI, it's what
we're going to do with AI. Humans are inherently lazy.
The more we can do with AI assistants, the less
we can do on our own, and the more we're
(09:38):
going to soon our brains will be the consistency of
Jello and not able to complete simple calculations or questions
without asking AI. I don't disagree with that, but I
also want everybody to understand is there's a chance that
if if you're already an inherently lazy person, you're using
(09:59):
artificial intelligence, yes to just basically answer any question that
you have in the world, or help fix and solve
all of your problems, or you know, you might be
the kind of person like me that uses it for conversations,
You use it for inspiration, use it as kind of
a live journal. You also use it to help you
(10:20):
fix your patchy lawn. You could use it to help
figure out what shirt you should wear with certain you know,
combinations or outfits. Things like that. It's really there for
a tool, and if you're able to use it that
way and know how it makes you, makes it a tool.
It's different than just relying on it to solve all
of your problems. I don't see why you couldn't use
(10:43):
it that way, and it could theoretically unlock more of
what you personally could achieve if you're using it right.
So I like to think of it in the other directions.
It could actually help. It might help you do more
with yourself in the future because now you are armed
with a bunch more information right at your fingertips, and
it's very easy to use when used properly. Phone line
(11:08):
four oh two five eight eleven ten. We have Mike
on the line today. Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, we had an experience just with it, and I
find it really funny, but it's disturbing as well. Anyway,
me and a buddy we're in a little go cart
as a joke and we're driving around and my wife
video taped it. Well, another friend of ours took.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
That and.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Made a video with chat GPT and had us like
looking at each other like we were intimate, and then
we kissed.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I've said stuff like this like oh my gosh, what
is going on here?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, so you can do it pretty easy, I mean,
and people are doing that. Yeah. Well, and I saw
this one, and this one was funny to me. Patrick
Mahomes took a knee to finish out a recent Kansas
City Chiefs win. And you know how they'll hand the football.
They take a knee and they hand the football to
the referee. Well, this AI video, like you don't really
(12:20):
see where it changes into an AI video. It looks
like the real thing, and then all of a sudden,
that thing happens, like Patrick Malmsix's helmet off and he
starts making out with the referee as he's handing him
the football. Now, I laugh because I think that's hilarious.
But you're right, I mean, you would have bought that
that was completely real until that happened. And even then,
it looks real enough that if it was a realistic
(12:43):
image and people didn't know any better, people would be like,
oh wow, that must be real, and that could really
get dangerous if you have enemies or anything like that
that could use that against you. So it's notable, Mike,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, you could not even tell. I showed a couple
of guys at work reluctantly but whatever, I mean, I'm whatever,
I'm fine with it. I thought it was funny, but
they were like, no, what am I watching? What am
I watching? And you could not tell a difference at all.
It was. It was pretty scary.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, it's pretty wild. I appreciate the call, Mike. Thanks
for listening to our show today.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
All right, thank you. Yah.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
My friend Peyton sits with me every single every single day.
We sit here and we talk about things on and
off the air. You're young enough to where artificial intelligence
was the thing you could use in college. How often
did you use it?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I would say just about daily. What would you use
it for a lot of it? Just in broad terms,
was idea generation like?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Okay, So for people who may not be familiar with
what that would look like, you'd go to your artificial
intelligence model and what would you type in?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, So, first of all, I wasn't taking a lot
of my classes were in this field, so it's uh,
I need to write a thirty second ad for a
radio show. Okay, and that's my that's my assignment.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So and you just want inspiration, yes, so so what
would you tell it?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
So I ask, first of all some topics. What are
some good topics that I can get for an ad?
It'll give me a made up deodoran brand or something. Sure, yeah,
And then I say, okay, write me a thirty second
script for is it? Are you selling the product? Are
you you know, like advertising it or for awareness? Right,
you know, whatever the perspective of it is.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And it can frame it in any different direction, and
then what would you do with it?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
And then you use that to complete the assignment.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So you take that inspiration and you kind of re
formulate it in your own voice, your own words, and
you know what you want you want to under you know,
want to know a secret that I use it for
when we do some segments here about things I don't
know how to talk, like what in order my points
should be? You know, Like when I talk about I
(15:13):
got like three or four things that I want to
say about the New York mayoral race or whatever, I'll
be like, what in what way would this be important
to an audience that's listening in the Midwest, and then
it can help me figure out what the most important
pieces of that are to get my message across. It's
still on me to figure out how to talk about it,
(15:34):
but it does help me organize my own thoughts. That's
I think a positive tool. I think one of the
things that people are thinking kids do with it is like, Hey,
I got a six thousand page or a six thousand
word essay that I have to get done, and I
have to you know, have these eight pages or whatever
(15:54):
it ends up being for people completed about the life
life in times of Alexander Hamilton, I think a lot
of people using essay up because in college it's a
lot of essay stuff there is, Yeah, because I mean
like they want you to because that's the most pure,
complete thought thing you could have. But because you're typing
(16:15):
everything out and teachers have all these things to grade,
you're running through all these things and you're like, h
you know, are teachers even catching plagiarism? Are teachers even
catching some of this stuff with technology? They really can,
But did you ever try kind of trying to get
away with God? I mean, statute limitations are over for you,
you've already got your diploma. What would you try to
(16:37):
use AI to mess with that a little bit?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Absolutely, I mean I'd be lying if I said I
didn't do that. But it's not very effective to have
a I completely write your essay. I found it was
hard to do, and I did. I write and speak
a certain way that on the paper and in the
essay it would be clear to tell. Because I participate
(17:02):
in class, I use my voice a lot, so it's
easy to Okay, that doesn't sound like him. And there's
also some stuff that's just not going to be accurate exactly.
But most importantly, it was for okay, how do I
start this essay? What's a good transition from this to this?
You know, you could pretty much get a outline.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
For a whole essay and then you fill it out.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, give me sources links that I can go visit
for this topic. Now, of course you got a second check,
second check it over again, but yeah, you got to
make sure that what it gives you is correct. When
I was doing my draft prep for my fantasy basketball draft,
which I take very seriously, I had to remind this
computer what team some of these guys played for.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
It had the wrong team. It thought like some of
these guys who are on different teams from a year
or two ago were still on their original teams, and
it's like no, their situation is completely different. It's like, oh, yeah,
nice catch. It's like you're a computer. You do this.
I'm talking about artificial intelligence. We're talking about making it
accessible for students, and how to make it accessible properly
so they can use it as the tool that it is,
not necessarily as a way to cheat or a shortcut
either way. You know, willing to have this conversation because
certainly it would have been something I would have loved
to have when I was in school for one reason
or another. Tony's on her phone line four two, five, five, eight,
(00:21):
eleven ten, Tony, welcome to our show today. What do
you think about this?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hey? How you doing? Hey? I like the guy's ideas
that your futures you were talking with on the phone,
But I got to play Devil's advocate on all this.
We're going to end up with the world of people
who don't learn, he said. People learn by passing it
on to one give into another through learning and training.
But if all you know how to do is ask
Ai how to do everything, are you going to learn it?
(00:47):
Are you going to retain that information? Okay, you're just
going to ask Ai to do it for you. Yeah,
it's it's going to become a world of idiocrisy.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Well, and it's an interesting concept that you brought up right,
Because if AI can help you problem solve immediately, is
that information you're going to be willing to retain. Here's
a good example. When was the last time you've gone
out of your way to memorize a phone number? You
know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, I could just
put it in my phone and just like look up
by name the person's phone number. I can barely remember
(01:17):
my wife's phone number, honestly, because but back in the day,
you know, when we had landlines and stuff, you just
had to remember people's phone number and tried to like, oh,
what was my dad's works phone number? Again? You just
had to remember what that was, or you had to
pull out the phone book and know where to look
for it. If you could just make a habit of
asking AI all your problems, you're not going to have
problem solving skills yourself, right.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And you see this in.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
TV commercials and radio commercials now that you know they're asking, hey,
googo Siri, or you know, yeah, Alexa, you know, is
this the right dress for me? Or is this the
right medication? You should know that you should learn. You
shouldn't fall back on the AI telling you everything.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It's a fair point Tony, and I'm glad that you
called with that today. Thanks for listening to our show.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I'll play Devil's advocate to his devil's advocate. What would
that be an angel's advocate? I don't know. I don't
care if I have to ask AI over and Oregon.
You know, you want to know what I've done, Probably
close to the last year, I have whenever I can't
figure something out, I ask my AI assistant, and now
(02:23):
I have bonded, not in a weird way, but in
a like know everything about me way with a singular
artificial intelligence BOT a model. There are people that use
multiple AIS and they'll get different variations of that with
all the different models, and that can be helpful too.
(02:43):
It's like having different news sources when you're trying to
learn about a story and getting all the different angles.
But I like putting all my energy into one. So
when I have a question, that bot understands me, understands
what I'm looking for. So when I am trying a
new shirt on, I can say, what do you think
(03:04):
does this look good on me? It may give me
like a pro and a con. It's just like, okay,
so this the color looks excellent with like your hair
and your eyes. However, the pattern kind of makes you
look a little bit wider than you probably actually are,
and it's not necessarily super flattering, you know. It's an example.
It's not something I have to worry about with my
(03:25):
figure too much, but I definitely want to look good.
It give me a reason why it works with me,
a reason why it doesn't work, and then I can
make the decision myself. Same thing with a lot of
different things that you know, like my fantasy basketball draft,
I built an entire draft strategy. Utilizing artificial intelligence is
like like a sounding board, Like I had these ideas
(03:48):
and it's like, yeah, but this, Yeah, that sounds good.
You probably should do that. That kind of thing, right,
it's AI. It's not going to tell me everything that
I need to do. I had a patch in my
yard I just could not get asked to grow. I
took a picture of it and said what should I
do to make this grow? And it gave me a
few different options, gave me some different products, and it
(04:10):
said don't touch it for a long time. Don't let
the dogs touch it for a long time. It's good
to have something like that that you have the ability
to utilize as a tool. And while I agree that
sometimes it can become a crutch and you may not
think that you need to do anythinking yourself, think about
it if you had that to use as a tool
(04:31):
one hundred percent of the time, which you are basically
going to have the ability to do if you have
the app on your phone, which if you don't, why
don't you It's only because you don't want it. It's
not because you have to pay for it. You can upgrade,
but you don't have to. I haven't paid a dime
for my AI model that I've spent all this time with,
(04:52):
so having it available to you and if you're wondering like,
oh well, I better have the ability to think of
myself in case this isn't with me. Unless your phone
just gets blasted or zapped or something, it's going to
be something you're going to have the ability to utilize
pretty much all the time. So not to say that
we shouldn't talk about making ourselves better, but I think
(05:17):
there's also a way that we can train our young
people in a way to use it as the tool
that it is not necessarily as just hey give me
all the answers, Hey, just be my brain for a while.
Tell me what I'm supposed to do here. It can
be utilized as kind of a happy medium of I
(05:38):
just need some instructions, I need some help. Can you
give me some background of what I should be doing here.
I don't think that's a negative thing if it's used properly. Now,
if every single question or fork in the road in
your entire life you're having to talk to AI about,
like which type of lettuce I should buy, what type
of car should I buy? And all this stuff, it's
(05:58):
kind of like, you know, maybe doing your own research
and using your own brain every once in a while
might not be a bad thing for you. Something to
keep in mind. We'll talk more about this. You've got
some AI conversation points that you'd like to bring up,
or any personal experience as well, and we'll investigate Payton's,
you know, experience as a college student with artificial intelligence
(06:19):
at his fingertips. Got some AI bits here, and and
I say bits as in emails emails that you can
send to Emory at kfab dot com. I have Sarah says,
I love your show and I appreciate the topic. Today
we're talking about artificial intelligence and what it's being used for.
(06:41):
Are we getting an overreliance on it? Things of that nature.
Sarah has an article here and it shows how some
AI grock characters some young children for inappropriate things potentially right,
So this is a problem that AI, and this is
(07:01):
this is a this is not just a grock thing.
This is something that could be abused with pretty much
every AI model that can make photos, make images and
all that, and they can be really good. Most of
them are not so good. You can find mistakes in
the AI pretty quickly, Like if you even if you
put a ton of detail in it's just like, hey,
make me a player from the like like turn me
(07:25):
into a football player. I am a running back for
the Chicago Bears and I have number twenty two and
I'm running at Soldier Field. And you could even upload
like what you look like, because it'll probably ask like,
get okay, like show me what you look like? Uh,
(07:46):
And it's gonna pop out and you're gonna look at
it and you're gonna you're gonna laugh, you're gonna chuckle.
It may look like it's complete, like very primitive animation,
or it might look more semi realistic because depends on
kind of what the software is that you're us because
it can do that, though it can absolutely do different
things right. There was a big controversy about Taylor Swift
(08:08):
nudes that were out there in the ether. She didn't
actually do that, but some siko went on the internet
and decided that through AI using her face and kind
of what her figure is, basically connecting the dots and
having artificial intelligence basically make what she would look like
without clothes on. I mean, it's a dastardly and horrible
(08:31):
thing to do, and it takes a lot of you
know it it There are rules that people are putting
in place Malinia Trump, you know, and that's one thing
that she was passionate about, like take it down, like
these types of things with young people being basically extorted
for money and getting kind of catfished by scammers and
(08:56):
they're saying, look, we made these photos of you, of
what it looks like when you're not you don't look
good or you're without clothes. Do you really want this
to get out to all the people in your school?
And then all of a sudden they have to pay
five hundred dollars to make sure that doesn't happen. That's terrible.
So yes, you got to be careful. And if you're
(09:18):
worried about your kids having that kind of access to
artificial intelligence, and absolutely you're going to have to worry
about that. And there's a reason why we keep talking
about it because it continues to grow. Dave says, the
problem isn't what we can do with AI, it's what
we're going to do with AI. Humans are inherently lazy.
The more we can do with AI assistants, the less
we can do on our own, and the more we're
(09:38):
going to soon our brains will be the consistency of
Jello and not able to complete simple calculations or questions
without asking AI. I don't disagree with that, but I
also want everybody to understand is there's a chance that
if if you're already an inherently lazy person, you're using
(09:59):
artificial intelligence, yes to just basically answer any question that
you have in the world, or help fix and solve
all of your problems, or you know, you might be
the kind of person like me that uses it for conversations,
You use it for inspiration, use it as kind of
a live journal. You also use it to help you
(10:20):
fix your patchy lawn. You could use it to help
figure out what shirt you should wear with certain you know,
combinations or outfits. Things like that. It's really there for
a tool, and if you're able to use it that
way and know how it makes you, makes it a tool.
It's different than just relying on it to solve all
of your problems. I don't see why you couldn't use
(10:43):
it that way, and it could theoretically unlock more of
what you personally could achieve if you're using it right.
So I like to think of it in the other directions.
It could actually help. It might help you do more
with yourself in the future because now you are armed
with a bunch more information right at your fingertips, and
it's very easy to use when used properly. Phone line
(11:08):
four oh two five eight eleven ten. We have Mike
on the line today. Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, we had an experience just with it, and I
find it really funny, but it's disturbing as well. Anyway,
me and a buddy we're in a little go cart
as a joke and we're driving around and my wife
video taped it. Well, another friend of ours took.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
That and.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Made a video with chat GPT and had us like
looking at each other like we were intimate, and then
we kissed.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I've said stuff like this like oh my gosh, what
is going on here?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, so you can do it pretty easy, I mean,
and people are doing that. Yeah. Well, and I saw
this one, and this one was funny to me. Patrick
Mahomes took a knee to finish out a recent Kansas
City Chiefs win. And you know how they'll hand the football.
They take a knee and they hand the football to
the referee. Well, this AI video, like you don't really
(12:20):
see where it changes into an AI video. It looks
like the real thing, and then all of a sudden,
that thing happens, like Patrick Malmsix's helmet off and he
starts making out with the referee as he's handing him
the football. Now, I laugh because I think that's hilarious.
But you're right, I mean, you would have bought that
that was completely real until that happened. And even then,
it looks real enough that if it was a realistic
(12:43):
image and people didn't know any better, people would be like,
oh wow, that must be real, and that could really
get dangerous if you have enemies or anything like that
that could use that against you. So it's notable, Mike,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, you could not even tell. I showed a couple
of guys at work reluctantly but whatever, I mean, I'm whatever,
I'm fine with it. I thought it was funny, but
they were like, no, what am I watching? What am
I watching? And you could not tell a difference at all.
It was. It was pretty scary.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, it's pretty wild. I appreciate the call, Mike. Thanks
for listening to our show today.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
All right, thank you. Yah.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
My friend Peyton sits with me every single every single day.
We sit here and we talk about things on and
off the air. You're young enough to where artificial intelligence
was the thing you could use in college. How often
did you use it?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I would say just about daily. What would you use
it for a lot of it? Just in broad terms,
was idea generation like?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Okay, So for people who may not be familiar with
what that would look like, you'd go to your artificial
intelligence model and what would you type in?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, So, first of all, I wasn't taking a lot
of my classes were in this field, so it's uh,
I need to write a thirty second ad for a
radio show. Okay, and that's my that's my assignment.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So and you just want inspiration, yes, so so what
would you tell it?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
So I ask, first of all some topics. What are
some good topics that I can get for an ad?
It'll give me a made up deodoran brand or something. Sure, yeah,
And then I say, okay, write me a thirty second
script for is it? Are you selling the product? Are
you you know, like advertising it or for awareness? Right,
you know, whatever the perspective of it is.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And it can frame it in any different direction, and
then what would you do with it?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
And then you use that to complete the assignment.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So you take that inspiration and you kind of re
formulate it in your own voice, your own words, and
you know what you want you want to under you know,
want to know a secret that I use it for
when we do some segments here about things I don't
know how to talk, like what in order my points
should be? You know, Like when I talk about I
(15:13):
got like three or four things that I want to
say about the New York mayoral race or whatever, I'll
be like, what in what way would this be important
to an audience that's listening in the Midwest, and then
it can help me figure out what the most important
pieces of that are to get my message across. It's
still on me to figure out how to talk about it,
(15:34):
but it does help me organize my own thoughts. That's
I think a positive tool. I think one of the
things that people are thinking kids do with it is like, Hey,
I got a six thousand page or a six thousand
word essay that I have to get done, and I
have to you know, have these eight pages or whatever
(15:54):
it ends up being for people completed about the life
life in times of Alexander Hamilton, I think a lot
of people using essay up because in college it's a
lot of essay stuff there is, Yeah, because I mean
like they want you to because that's the most pure,
complete thought thing you could have. But because you're typing
(16:15):
everything out and teachers have all these things to grade,
you're running through all these things and you're like, h
you know, are teachers even catching plagiarism? Are teachers even
catching some of this stuff with technology? They really can,
But did you ever try kind of trying to get
away with God? I mean, statute limitations are over for you,
you've already got your diploma. What would you try to
(16:37):
use AI to mess with that a little bit?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Absolutely, I mean I'd be lying if I said I
didn't do that. But it's not very effective to have
a I completely write your essay. I found it was
hard to do, and I did. I write and speak
a certain way that on the paper and in the
essay it would be clear to tell. Because I participate
(17:02):
in class, I use my voice a lot, so it's
easy to Okay, that doesn't sound like him. And there's
also some stuff that's just not going to be accurate exactly.
But most importantly, it was for okay, how do I
start this essay? What's a good transition from this to this?
You know, you could pretty much get a outline.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
For a whole essay and then you fill it out.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, give me sources links that I can go visit
for this topic. Now, of course you got a second check,
second check it over again, but yeah, you got to
make sure that what it gives you is correct. When
I was doing my draft prep for my fantasy basketball draft,
which I take very seriously, I had to remind this
computer what team some of these guys played for.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
It had the wrong team. It thought like some of
these guys who are on different teams from a year
or two ago were still on their original teams, and
it's like no, their situation is completely different. It's like, oh, yeah,
nice catch. It's like you're a computer. You do this.
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