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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I want to talk about something else, something else that
is actually going to become more and more pertinent and
more and more obvious as time goes on, and that
is the struggles of the government shut down on the
average everyday person, especially one who's trying to get on
airplanes and travel around for various reasons. And joining us
to talk about that today is from New York City,
(00:21):
a reporter for Fox News Radio, Tanya jay Powers, joining us. Tanya,
thank you so much for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Okay, so here we are. We are over a week
now into what was the government shut down. We have
still heard a bunch of finger pointing and accusations on
both sides as to whose fault this actually is. But
now we're starting to see the impact really mess with
us in our daily lives as it relates to air
travel and air traffic controllers. Can you tell me about
how that has continued to develop over the last seven days.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes, this is as you mentioned, It is now affecting
people who are trying to travel by air. The air
traffic control situation. You know, there was a shortage of
air traffic controllers before all this happened. Anyway, we've heard
about this for quite some time in the past several years,
about how they were trying to get the staffing levels up.
It requires a lot of training. It's not something you
(01:13):
can just like put an ad out and go, hey,
come direct claims. You know, they have to be trained,
They have to undergo you know a lot of a
lot of that in order to do this job. It's
a very stressful job. These folks are considered essential workers,
which I don't think anybody would argue with. They are
exempt from being furloughed, is what that means during the shutdowns. Unfortunately,
(01:35):
it also means that these thirteen thousand some odd controllers
will also be working without pay during the shutdowns. Not
a great situation for any of the essential workers who
are working without pay, especially not for them. A lot
of them have, or a good number of them, I
will say, have apparently begun calling out sick. And you know,
(01:57):
the Transportation Secretary of Sean Duffy said on my day
talking about this, mentioning that you know, some of them
may be like taking a second job in order to
you know, have some money coming in, driving an uber whatever.
You know, the bills don't stop just because there's a
government shut down and you're not making any money. So
that is one of the things we've seen. This of course,
(02:18):
has resulted in some you know, staffing issues, which means
the FAA have had to kind of you know, bring
down the level of takeoffs landings because of the staff
staffing issues. Some airports they reported issues. On Monday, the
AAA said the airport in Burbank, California, Newark, New Jersey,
(02:38):
and Denver especially had issues. I believe the one in
Burbank there had to shut down for several hours. The
air the control tower shut down. They had delays of
about two and a half hours because they didn't you
know this the tower was closed due to staffing. So
you know, this is a this is obviously a problem.
It is, by the way, the same remember is the
(03:01):
twenty nineteen shutdown in the first Trump administration it was
thirty five days. Was that shutdowns. One of the reasons
it actually ended, the shutdown ended was because it delays
the airport. This, you know, you could see where this
situation would get untenable after a while. You know, they're
missing paychecks as well, which obviously is not helping either.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, So Tanya I guess my big thing would be
is how long does it take? Is it thirty five days?
Is that the level of amount of stress that they
can have before they realize okay, enough is taking place
to not only mess with regular people's lives, but that
would be messing with their lives too when they were
be seeing that when they're at the airports and things
of that nature. I've talked to a couple of people
(03:45):
who are in the you know, in Congress, and they
talk about how bad they feel that there are people
that are being told that they have to show up
to work, that they're not getting paychecks. Is this going
to be kind of the thing that you think could
force them to the negotiating table faster than they otherwise
would have.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I mean, it's worked before. I don't know that that
was their I don't know that that was the plan
that they had. I don't know if they were all
sitting back on a group jack going yeah, if we
just wait them out, you know. I think that is
just kind of how things happened. That shut down in
twenty nineteen went from December twenty second to January twenty fifth,
(04:24):
So if you'll remember, that was during Christmas all the
Christmas travels, the New Year's travel and everything else. This is,
you know, coming at a bad time because we're leading
into you know, the Thanksgiving travel season next month. This
is you know that if it went on for for
that long, you know that that's that would be that
would be a special kind of horrible for everybody, honestly,
(04:46):
But you know, this could be the thing that tips
it like it has before. Let's just hope it doesn't
take thirty five days for that to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Ay j Powers joining us here on the phone lines, Tanya,
last thing for you today as it relates to air
traffic controllers as well, and you mentioned it being kind
of an untenable situation after a while with pay my
if I have people listening to me and they're saying, hey, well,
in the next week or so, I have a trip
(05:16):
and I'm going to have a layover going through a
major airport like Atlanto or somewhere in New York, and
I'm I'm going to be really you know, I need
I need to make sure that this is operational for
me before I go. Do you think that this is
a resolvable problem one that people can with confidence travel
and know they're not going to have to worry about
delays based on either TSA agents or planes just not
(05:40):
having the capabilities of being able to fly with any
sort of typical speed because of the staffing issues that
they may be having.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That is something that you should definitely keep an eye
on if you're planning to fly any anytime thing before
the shutdown is over with, and I would even say
right after, even after it gets, you know, resolved, there
could be like a little bit of a delay getting
everybody back into the schedules they're supposed to have. Keep
an eye on it, is what I would say. Because
you've got major airports Dallas in Chicago were already yesterday
(06:13):
they had delays about thirty forty minutes, which is in
the grand scheme of things, not huge. However, if you
are trying to get if you've got to like I
can't go anywhere almost from New York unless it's like DC,
where I don't have to go through Chicago for you know,
there are certain airports you just got to go through
to get anywhere, and if you are, you know, you
(06:34):
have a tight connection to make at one of those airports,
and there's an unexpected delay due to air traffic control
issues that could you could end up missing your plane.
It is very it's possible. It's possible on a normal day,
I would say it's even even more so now. So
I would keep an eye on that. If you're planning
travel in the next a couple of weeks and you
haven't looked yet, I'd give myself an extra you know,
(06:56):
length of time if I had to make a connection,
just in case, because you know, that could definitely make
things a lot harder.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
For sure, we'll keep an eye on that. It is
certainly the most notable thing for civilian regular people that
they will notice as part of this government shut down.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Tany J.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Power is reporting on this for Fox News Radio. Tanya,
thank you so much for the time and for being
on our show today.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sure, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Donald Trump right now in the White House having a
round table to talk the violence of Antifa, specifically against
ICE agents. Mostly He has recently said they are a
terrorist organization, but there are a lot of people who
say they are a part of Antifa here in the
(07:42):
United States and major metropolitan areas. They are the people
that are kind of the ring leaders of a lot
of the protests that get out of hand, and you
can go back to the George Floyd protests and how
that was taking place. That was a lot of people
accusing Antifa of that. So yeah, I mean, I guess
(08:03):
it just depends on depends on your outlook as to
what you can or cannot do for a group that
calls themselves Antifa. But let's just theoretically say, okay, yeah,
if you're a member of Antifa, like this is how
we're going to resolve this problem. And beyond that, what's
the next step. Oh, they'll prob unless we throw them
(08:24):
all in jail, which again I don't think is a
good idea if we don't have proof that they actually
committed a crime. I would be opposed to just throwing
people randomly in jail, but I understand having to do
what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I just.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
My inclination would be to be on the lookout for
the same people trying to reorganize into something they call
something besides Antifa, and nothing's going to change, and if anything,
it might even make it worse, because when you give
people this type of attention, it honestly empowers them and
they make it makes them feel even more important than
they actually are. This is the one thing about North Korea,
(09:06):
that guy Kim jongu rocketman. He's trying to like be
a real player on the national level, like international scene.
He wants people from every country to be like, yeah,
look at that guy. That's a real player. You know.
Russia gets into a war, he's like, oh, Russia, call us,
(09:26):
We'll send you ten thousand troops and we'll help fight
your war for you. Hey, I get the fire some
molistic missiles, like tell me where to aim. He's just
looking for that sort of thing, right. He wants so
badly to be treated like a legitimate threat in a
legitimate power. And yes they have nuclear arms. But you
want to know something else, Guys, most of the civilized
(09:47):
world in Europe and most of the civilized world in
North America and South America, they you know what they do.
They ignore him. They pay little to no attention to him.
Donald Trump didn't meet with him during his first term.
But you just don't validate that kind of behavior by
acting like, oh, yeah, this is a real dangerous son
(10:08):
of a gun, you know, like we got to look
out for that guy, because that's when he's like yeah, yeah,
and that would be My thing with Antifa here is okay.
So they are creating a big ruckus in a lot
of cities, and they absolutely are worth monitoring keeping an
eye on. Somebody does get into a physical altercation with
(10:30):
law enforcement, or somebody is trying to prevent law enforcement
from doing their job, they should be arrested. They should
be put in jail. We should not let them roam
free on the streets. There are many criminals like that
that I think we should keep off of the streets.
But you want to know what else I think is
going down.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I think.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You're just going to give them more respect as a
way for people to push back against the government in
a more organized way, and that I'd be fearful of.
So whatever situation they come to, whatever agreement or whatever solutions,
they have an idea for of how to handle Antifa
and how to prevent them from really meddling around in
the business of the United States of America. We have
(11:15):
to find a way where I'm not sure what the
answer is beyond just being vigilant about arresting these folks,
But can you feel that way as it relates to
the National Guard. Are these cities that you feel like
(11:38):
you could put the National Guard into and feel like
things are actually gonna make a big difference. It's a
good question, but this is why those guys are the
problem solvers. And I am sitting here talking into a
honk of metal wearing a hoodie. I don't bite off
more than I can chew. Would you ever run for politics?
(12:00):
For political office? I mean you're a young guy. I mean,
would you rule it out right now? If I told you, hey,
you have a choice to tell me that you'll never
run for politics based on how you feel right now,
or that you would rule it out, like even if
it's just like a local school board or serving on
like your Parks and rec commission or something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I'll leave the book open. But I would be very doubtful.
I don't see myself in politics. There's a lot that
you don't want A campaign goes into it. I think
that I think I could carry myself my presence. I
would be able to speak well, I'd be able to
shake hands and kiss babies like I'll be kissing babies
my gross. My demeanor would be, I believe, you know,
(12:42):
very enticing. But I don't think I want to get
involved with that kind of line. Of work.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, it's just like in half half of the people
just hate you. They don't even know you, but they
hate you.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You have so much responsibility that people just decide that
they hate you. It's like, yeah, he's the man, down
with the man. Stick it to the man, as Jack
Black would say in School of Rock. It's my second
School of Rock reference this week, twice in the same week,
and both applicable. I don't know, what do you what
do you want? What do you want from me? I
(13:14):
am a man of great taste. I like School of Rock,
and I like pepper Jack cheese. Plain, pepper Jack.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Cheese is very, very good. And every once in a
while I'll bring in a little cup with some sliced
sausage or salami, crackers and pepper jack cheese. Oh my,
one of my favorite cheeses.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I ate strawberries. Today, I just ate an apple.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
You always got some some sort of good snack.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, you know what else I have? I have peanuts,
nice salted peanuts. They'm gonna go grab those. And I
have grapes and then sour patch.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Kids.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
If you ever had a kid, would you see yourself
cutting the grapes for them.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I'll be honest, that's the first time anyone's asked me that.
And I know that something you're supposed to do that
would be something I would probably forget to do if
I ever had a child. I just know I'm not
supposed to feed my dog's grapes, so I don't. If
my dogs they like bananas and cheese, that's good for him. Yeah,
there you go.
I want to talk about something else, something else that
is actually going to become more and more pertinent and
more and more obvious as time goes on, and that
is the struggles of the government shut down on the
average everyday person, especially one who's trying to get on
airplanes and travel around for various reasons. And joining us
to talk about that today is from New York City,
(00:21):
a reporter for Fox News Radio, Tanya jay Powers, joining us. Tanya,
thank you so much for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Okay, so here we are. We are over a week
now into what was the government shut down. We have
still heard a bunch of finger pointing and accusations on
both sides as to whose fault this actually is. But
now we're starting to see the impact really mess with
us in our daily lives as it relates to air
travel and air traffic controllers. Can you tell me about
how that has continued to develop over the last seven days.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes, this is as you mentioned, It is now affecting
people who are trying to travel by air. The air
traffic control situation. You know, there was a shortage of
air traffic controllers before all this happened. Anyway, we've heard
about this for quite some time in the past several years,
about how they were trying to get the staffing levels up.
It requires a lot of training. It's not something you
(01:13):
can just like put an ad out and go, hey,
come direct claims. You know, they have to be trained,
They have to undergo you know a lot of a
lot of that in order to do this job. It's
a very stressful job. These folks are considered essential workers,
which I don't think anybody would argue with. They are
exempt from being furloughed, is what that means during the shutdowns. Unfortunately,
(01:35):
it also means that these thirteen thousand some odd controllers
will also be working without pay during the shutdowns. Not
a great situation for any of the essential workers who
are working without pay, especially not for them. A lot
of them have, or a good number of them, I
will say, have apparently begun calling out sick. And you know,
(01:57):
the Transportation Secretary of Sean Duffy said on my day
talking about this, mentioning that you know, some of them
may be like taking a second job in order to
you know, have some money coming in, driving an uber whatever.
You know, the bills don't stop just because there's a
government shut down and you're not making any money. So
that is one of the things we've seen. This of course,
(02:18):
has resulted in some you know, staffing issues, which means
the FAA have had to kind of you know, bring
down the level of takeoffs landings because of the staff
staffing issues. Some airports they reported issues. On Monday, the
AAA said the airport in Burbank, California, Newark, New Jersey,
(02:38):
and Denver especially had issues. I believe the one in
Burbank there had to shut down for several hours. The
air the control tower shut down. They had delays of
about two and a half hours because they didn't you
know this the tower was closed due to staffing. So
you know, this is a this is obviously a problem.
It is, by the way, the same remember is the
(03:01):
twenty nineteen shutdown in the first Trump administration it was
thirty five days. Was that shutdowns. One of the reasons
it actually ended, the shutdown ended was because it delays
the airport. This, you know, you could see where this
situation would get untenable after a while. You know, they're
missing paychecks as well, which obviously is not helping either.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, So Tanya I guess my big thing would be
is how long does it take? Is it thirty five days?
Is that the level of amount of stress that they
can have before they realize okay, enough is taking place
to not only mess with regular people's lives, but that
would be messing with their lives too when they were
be seeing that when they're at the airports and things
of that nature. I've talked to a couple of people
(03:45):
who are in the you know, in Congress, and they
talk about how bad they feel that there are people
that are being told that they have to show up
to work, that they're not getting paychecks. Is this going
to be kind of the thing that you think could
force them to the negotiating table faster than they otherwise
would have.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I mean, it's worked before. I don't know that that
was their I don't know that that was the plan
that they had. I don't know if they were all
sitting back on a group jack going yeah, if we
just wait them out, you know. I think that is
just kind of how things happened. That shut down in
twenty nineteen went from December twenty second to January twenty fifth,
(04:24):
So if you'll remember, that was during Christmas all the
Christmas travels, the New Year's travel and everything else. This is,
you know, coming at a bad time because we're leading
into you know, the Thanksgiving travel season next month. This
is you know that if it went on for for
that long, you know that that's that would be that
would be a special kind of horrible for everybody, honestly,
(04:46):
But you know, this could be the thing that tips
it like it has before. Let's just hope it doesn't
take thirty five days for that to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Ay j Powers joining us here on the phone lines, Tanya,
last thing for you today as it relates to air
traffic controllers as well, and you mentioned it being kind
of an untenable situation after a while with pay my
if I have people listening to me and they're saying, hey, well,
in the next week or so, I have a trip
(05:16):
and I'm going to have a layover going through a
major airport like Atlanto or somewhere in New York, and
I'm I'm going to be really you know, I need
I need to make sure that this is operational for
me before I go. Do you think that this is
a resolvable problem one that people can with confidence travel
and know they're not going to have to worry about
delays based on either TSA agents or planes just not
(05:40):
having the capabilities of being able to fly with any
sort of typical speed because of the staffing issues that
they may be having.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That is something that you should definitely keep an eye
on if you're planning to fly any anytime thing before
the shutdown is over with, and I would even say
right after, even after it gets, you know, resolved, there
could be like a little bit of a delay getting
everybody back into the schedules they're supposed to have. Keep
an eye on it, is what I would say. Because
you've got major airports Dallas in Chicago were already yesterday
(06:13):
they had delays about thirty forty minutes, which is in
the grand scheme of things, not huge. However, if you
are trying to get if you've got to like I
can't go anywhere almost from New York unless it's like DC,
where I don't have to go through Chicago for you know,
there are certain airports you just got to go through
to get anywhere, and if you are, you know, you
(06:34):
have a tight connection to make at one of those airports,
and there's an unexpected delay due to air traffic control
issues that could you could end up missing your plane.
It is very it's possible. It's possible on a normal day,
I would say it's even even more so now. So
I would keep an eye on that. If you're planning
travel in the next a couple of weeks and you
haven't looked yet, I'd give myself an extra you know,
(06:56):
length of time if I had to make a connection,
just in case, because you know, that could definitely make
things a lot harder.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
For sure, we'll keep an eye on that. It is
certainly the most notable thing for civilian regular people that
they will notice as part of this government shut down.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Tany J.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Power is reporting on this for Fox News Radio. Tanya,
thank you so much for the time and for being
on our show today.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sure, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Donald Trump right now in the White House having a
round table to talk the violence of Antifa, specifically against
ICE agents. Mostly He has recently said they are a
terrorist organization, but there are a lot of people who
say they are a part of Antifa here in the
(07:42):
United States and major metropolitan areas. They are the people
that are kind of the ring leaders of a lot
of the protests that get out of hand, and you
can go back to the George Floyd protests and how
that was taking place. That was a lot of people
accusing Antifa of that. So yeah, I mean, I guess
(08:03):
it just depends on depends on your outlook as to
what you can or cannot do for a group that
calls themselves Antifa. But let's just theoretically say, okay, yeah,
if you're a member of Antifa, like this is how
we're going to resolve this problem. And beyond that, what's
the next step. Oh, they'll prob unless we throw them
(08:24):
all in jail, which again I don't think is a
good idea if we don't have proof that they actually
committed a crime. I would be opposed to just throwing
people randomly in jail, but I understand having to do
what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I just.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
My inclination would be to be on the lookout for
the same people trying to reorganize into something they call
something besides Antifa, and nothing's going to change, and if anything,
it might even make it worse, because when you give
people this type of attention, it honestly empowers them and
they make it makes them feel even more important than
they actually are. This is the one thing about North Korea,
(09:06):
that guy Kim jongu rocketman. He's trying to like be
a real player on the national level, like international scene.
He wants people from every country to be like, yeah,
look at that guy. That's a real player. You know.
Russia gets into a war, he's like, oh, Russia, call us,
(09:26):
We'll send you ten thousand troops and we'll help fight
your war for you. Hey, I get the fire some
molistic missiles, like tell me where to aim. He's just
looking for that sort of thing, right. He wants so
badly to be treated like a legitimate threat in a
legitimate power. And yes they have nuclear arms. But you
want to know something else, Guys, most of the civilized
(09:47):
world in Europe and most of the civilized world in
North America and South America, they you know what they do.
They ignore him. They pay little to no attention to him.
Donald Trump didn't meet with him during his first term.
But you just don't validate that kind of behavior by
acting like, oh, yeah, this is a real dangerous son
(10:08):
of a gun, you know, like we got to look
out for that guy, because that's when he's like yeah, yeah,
and that would be My thing with Antifa here is okay.
So they are creating a big ruckus in a lot
of cities, and they absolutely are worth monitoring keeping an
eye on. Somebody does get into a physical altercation with
(10:30):
law enforcement, or somebody is trying to prevent law enforcement
from doing their job, they should be arrested. They should
be put in jail. We should not let them roam
free on the streets. There are many criminals like that
that I think we should keep off of the streets.
But you want to know what else I think is
going down.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I think.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You're just going to give them more respect as a
way for people to push back against the government in
a more organized way, and that I'd be fearful of.
So whatever situation they come to, whatever agreement or whatever solutions,
they have an idea for of how to handle Antifa
and how to prevent them from really meddling around in
the business of the United States of America. We have
(11:15):
to find a way where I'm not sure what the
answer is beyond just being vigilant about arresting these folks,
But can you feel that way as it relates to
the National Guard. Are these cities that you feel like
(11:38):
you could put the National Guard into and feel like
things are actually gonna make a big difference. It's a
good question, but this is why those guys are the
problem solvers. And I am sitting here talking into a
honk of metal wearing a hoodie. I don't bite off
more than I can chew. Would you ever run for politics?
(12:00):
For political office? I mean you're a young guy. I mean,
would you rule it out right now? If I told you, hey,
you have a choice to tell me that you'll never
run for politics based on how you feel right now,
or that you would rule it out, like even if
it's just like a local school board or serving on
like your Parks and rec commission or something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I'll leave the book open. But I would be very doubtful.
I don't see myself in politics. There's a lot that
you don't want A campaign goes into it. I think
that I think I could carry myself my presence. I
would be able to speak well, I'd be able to
shake hands and kiss babies like I'll be kissing babies
my gross. My demeanor would be, I believe, you know,
(12:42):
very enticing. But I don't think I want to get
involved with that kind of line. Of work.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, it's just like in half half of the people
just hate you. They don't even know you, but they
hate you.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You have so much responsibility that people just decide that
they hate you. It's like, yeah, he's the man, down
with the man. Stick it to the man, as Jack
Black would say in School of Rock. It's my second
School of Rock reference this week, twice in the same week,
and both applicable. I don't know, what do you what
do you want? What do you want from me? I
(13:14):
am a man of great taste. I like School of Rock,
and I like pepper Jack cheese. Plain, pepper Jack.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Cheese is very, very good. And every once in a
while I'll bring in a little cup with some sliced
sausage or salami, crackers and pepper jack cheese. Oh my,
one of my favorite cheeses.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I ate strawberries. Today, I just ate an apple.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
You always got some some sort of good snack.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, you know what else I have? I have peanuts,
nice salted peanuts. They'm gonna go grab those. And I
have grapes and then sour patch.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Kids.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
If you ever had a kid, would you see yourself
cutting the grapes for them.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I'll be honest, that's the first time anyone's asked me that.
And I know that something you're supposed to do that
would be something I would probably forget to do if
I ever had a child. I just know I'm not
supposed to feed my dog's grapes, so I don't. If
my dogs they like bananas and cheese, that's good for him. Yeah,
there you go.
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