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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tomorrow, WHI should be an absolutely perfect day for the
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exarbont Turk. You're like, Okay, that sounds like a different language. Well,
it kind of is. Exarbon of course, being backwards for
Nebraska and Turk is backwards for Krit. And that leads
us to our guests who are in the studio, Izzy
Harden and Caleb land Greeb, who are going to be
racing in this aforementioned Krit and First, Izzy, welcome into
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the show.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thank you so much for.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Being here, Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, no problem, I think. Caleb also good to see you,
Thank you for having us. I like your shirt you
are wearing very appropriate for the weather today, you know,
the little flannel look. It was absolutely like super hot
like four days ago here. It's actually gonna be awesome
for bike racing. So we got to start Izzy with
what the heck is a crit?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
So a crit would be if we're looking at terms
of car racing, a KRIT would be more of an
F one type of racing. It's tight corners, shorter distance
than what we you'd see into like the Twitter France.
We're racing for about an hour around a block or
two in arc Sarbon village job.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I try my.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Best, but yeah, it's you know, we're going it's about
a mile long course. We raced for an hour, so
we don't know exactly how many. Like there's not like
a set distance, it's more just a time base. But
it's a lot more action, a lot more adrenaline, a
lot more happening, and you get to see them race
from one spot a lot more often than you would
something like a road race.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
All right, so pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Exarbon village is a finite amount of space and a
lot of people are thinking, okay, so that where this
is going to be. It's literally going to be right
down I think that's sixty seventh or sixty third or
something like that. But it's the main drag there with
all the businesses along it, and then just a little
loop around one of the other blocks. Caleb, what's the
kind of racing that we see? Is it, you know,
shoulder to shoulder? Is there a lot of bumping and
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grinding against here? Or are going to see a lot
of speed? Explain kind of the style of racing when
you guys are actually on the bikes there.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, exactly what you said.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
A lot of bar bang in you're going to feel
the energy of the race coming by you, and it's
going to be chaos out there, and there's gonna be
a lot of action, maybe a little bit of crashing,
hopefully not fingers crossed, but there's usually a lot going
on out there and plenty to see for the spectators.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So with that being said, bikes that you guys use
might be a little bit different than the bike that
I just bought.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I bought a bike this past week.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Actually, I'm trying to, you know, learn how to how
to bike like a normal guy on the streets and stuff.
That's kind of a new adventure for me. But you
guys like bumping and rubbing and banging. What is different
about your bike in the training that you do for
this style of racing that would be different than us
that are just kind of riding our bike along the trails.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, so definitely we have, like we go in for
fitting to make sure our bike is fitted specifically for us,
making sure you know your knee angles and your hip
angles are all set. We're riding riding almost carbon everything,
carbon bars, carbon bikes, cars in wheels, as well as
electronic shifting. So we don't have wires, We just have
like a battery that connects to the shifters and the
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like the railers to change the gears.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Our seats, a lot of people freak out a little
bit about them because they're not like the big comfy,
you know, fat ones you see on the cruisers. They're
actually very thin. And to keep the bike's light, that's
a really important thing. We'd run like computers on the
front to help record our data. We can see our
heart rate, power, everything like that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Is Yeah, that's like total one of these. It sounds
like sounds like they're pretty expensive.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
They don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
No, Yeah, they're definitely it's a pretty expensive bike a
little around. Luckily we do have like sponsors that help
us out and provide equipment. But yeah, it's definitely a
much more expensive. I mean, carbon fiber alone is.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Right very that way, you don't get all bent up
if you, you know, kind of get into a little
bit of a squabble. It's just exciting to talk about.
I mean, not that I'm rooting for anybody to you know,
get in the record. It's because we're also attached.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Do we have clips on our shoes that attach us
to the pedals or our bikes so that while we're riding,
our foots do not come like we can't just take
our foot off the pedal on the bike.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So that's probably good for the racing, but it could
be a little bit you know, dangerous if you're like
going down you can't really like stop if your.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Bike goes here going with it, Like that's just how
it is, Like it's like a package deal.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So you guys are both really young. I noticed this.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
We're speaking with Izzy Harden and Caleb land Greeb here
are going to be racing at the Exarment Turk Criterion
Bike Race, which is happening tomorrow, which is going to
be just so much fun. And we'll talk about the
schedule and all the different races that will be happening.
But Caleb, how do you get started in something this crazy?
I didn't even know this was a thing until they
announced this was coming here to al Mah.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, so you kind of get into a bunch of
different ways. But my dad started doing it when he
was a kid, So I raced motocross and mountain bikes
before this, and you finally was like, here's a road bike,
let's go do some cred racing, and ever since then
I kind of fell in love with it. It's just
a lot, it's super action packed, just like bumping into
each other and all that. So I just love the
physical aspect about it on top of riding a bicycle.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I watched some of those races with like Ricky
Carmichael and like motocross, and I always couldn't quite figure out,
like what was wrong with these guys that they're like
riding these motorized bikes that closely to each other. This
is like that, though, except you're just on like pedal bikes.
What about this makes you love it? Because it feels
like this is way harder work on your body just
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to you know, get up to speed and be able
to race so you're not relying on a motor.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
It's really you put so much work and effort into
just getting here that what makes you really want to
do it is when you get on the podium or
when you get that win. It's just like such a
big relief of like because you spent so many hours
training for this that I think what drives everyone is
just getting that win in that feeling, that winning feeling
is like nothing else.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Well, you know, as young as you two are.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You know, it's one of those things where it'd be
hard to start losing if you're not winning, if you're winning. Now, Isy,
how did you get involved in criterion racing? So?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I originally was a soccer player, but when about nine
years eight years old, I had broke my femur, kind
of lower towards my knee.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I had a.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Growth on i'd assist on my bone that ate away
the bone itself, and I went to jump into my
friend's pool and it snapped underneath me.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So pretty much sounds awful, a terrible thing to have
happened to.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yea, it was a very traumatizing moment, but pretty much
because of the cysts and everything and the whole aspect
of where it was. My doctors were like, you know,
you should really back off soccer because it was all
my non dominant net leg and if you know anything
about soccer, you know you lay on your non dominant leg.
It takes most of the impact before you kick the ball.
So for they're like, until you're eighteen and we know
it's gone, we don't have to go in and like
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scrape it off and everything's healed. You know, you'd finish
growing like no more. So my dad did it. So
my dad's from England, so you know, bikes over there
are pretty popular. He rode and he was like, well,
let's get you on a bike we can use as
a rehab. You know, you can still do something, still
work it out.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Unless high impact on your joints and your bones.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Especially with how close to the knee it was. We
didn't want all that pressure, all my need to have
like permanent damage later on in life. And so they're like, okay,
I was having fun with it going out and they're like, oh,
there's this local races we'll just put you in. I
ended up, you know, really loving it and really took off,
and at fourteen, I signed my first pro contract. Wow,
able to like travel around the nation racing and all that.
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So super fun. That's pretty much how it was. Like
a rehab turned passion.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Wow, you're what twenty two now twenty two yep, and
you're like, what twenty one twenty one? Yeah, so gosh,
you guys are like veterans and you're not even like
old enough to graduate college yet.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's kind of crazy. I just did last week.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Actually, oh congratulations, what was actually?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Where did you where did you graduate from mount University? Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, and then a week later you're where anyone else
in the world would want to be, Almaha, Nebraska to
ride in an awesome bike race.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I'm gonna take a break.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
We'll do a little bit more with Caleb here and
Izzy when we come back here on news radio eleven
to ten KFA.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
B Emery's Songer Turk, which.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Is a Criterion race. Bike race is going to be
going down on the Exarbent Village all day tomorrow. The
first race is the men's Open starting at three. The
last race will be the men's professional race starting at
eight fifteen or so. They're expecting thousands of people here.
Hundreds of athletes are here for this. I'm gonna go
to you, Caleb, to start us here. How many people
in a race?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Right? So?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
How crowded is it going to be while you guys
are racing the streets of the Exarbent Village.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's going to be anywhere from fifty to one hundred
riders per race. What, Yeah, it's gonna be a big one.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Dozens of people. Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
In the pro races, they'll be about fifty each and
then throughout the day you'll see more of like twenty
to thirties, but in the pro races it'll be about fifty.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Okay, So how do you navigate this sort of thing?
You know, we talk about the rubbin and the crashing
and things. How fast can you kind of get yourself
up to when you get out into space.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, so, like when you look at the group, it's
kind of like a school of fish almost. They kind
of move with the person in the front and everything,
but there also be like lulls and surges. So when
those lulls, gaps can open and you can easily put
an extra effort your momentum that you have to get
to the front, or you have people like teammates that
navigate and kind of part to seize I guess of
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the group to bring you up to the front, especially
for that end. That's where you kind of the interesting
aspect about criteria racing is seeing that team where it's
seeing that the dynamic of how people work to group,
where people are sitting. You know, obviously there's drafts trying
to conserve as much energy without breaking the wind and
being on the front, and so you'll see people that
are like designated to do that on a team, and
you'll see people who are designated to be like what
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we call quote unquote they're sprinters, which are they can
put out a lot of power but only for a
short amount of time. So that's the person that's going
to be designated to win the race. Pretty much, they're
working so that person can have an opportunity to have
as many as much energy as possible to sprint at
the end and potentially win the race for that team.
But yeah, that's kind of how you navigate. You kind
of just have to feel out the energy, see what
people are doing, look at your competitors and your people
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around you, see their facial expressions, see like what geared
to their body language, and it really tells you a
lot about like, oh my gosh, this person's suffering. This
is great because I feel great, or like, oh my god,
no one else is suffering around me, and I'm at
one hundred and ninety bpms right now and i feel
like I'm going to die.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So it's like it's like you're in the car and
you're watching the car struggle and you're just like this
isn't good. Yeah, this is great. How many people? How
does a team thing work? Caleb Blake, how many people
are on a team and kind of how do you
get on a team?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You'll have six of the most on a team and yeah,
the team that was a crazy just like Izzy was
completely explaining. But to get on a team, you kind
of have to know some people. You got to prove yourself.
With some of the races, there's bigger teams and lower teams,
you know, and so you really have to know people
and prove yourself and be able to talk your way in.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So you both are going to be in the professional
races at the end there. Yes, Okay, so you said
you've turned pro at fourteen years old, So are we
going to see like teenagers out here with you guys,
because you seem incredibly young to be doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But are there going to be some people even younger
than you out there?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I would say, I mean there's a wide age variety
in Criterion racing. We can have anyone, I know a
few moms out there, so people in the fifties. Yeah,
and then there's also people that they were like me
and racing in their teens now. So I would definitely
it depends on it who's showing up. But yeah, there's
definitely younger, and then there's gonna be some older people forties, fifties,
so there's a big age variety within the group.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Okay, So Caleb, last thing for you here. Have you
gotten a chance to kind of see the streets that
you're gonna be riding down there in the Exarment village
so far?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, we went walked the course last night before dinner,
and it's gonna be a good one. There's a U
turn in it, which is gonna be interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Right, you're on the very end there by Pacific, I think,
is where they're gonna have you like do a hairpin turn.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, it's gonna be a complete you tune, which is interesting.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
We've only there's only one other race in the calendar
that I can think of that has a U turn
in it. So it's very hard coming out of that turn,
and it's very tight going in. That's where you're gonna
see the carnage.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
All right, Okay, well that might be a place that
you might want to go check out. Be aware of
all the road closures and a lot of people listening
and like, Okay, so I can't drive through the Exarbont
Village tomorrow, Probably not something that I would suggest doing
because you will find road blockages every time you get
kind of close. But it's going to be an absolute
fantastic time. Get there by two if you want to
be a part of it. They're expecting over three thousand
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people to be there. I'm going to be there. It's
going to be a fantastic time, and we're going to
watch all these amazing bike races. It's just going to
be a great time to be around the community. Izzy
and Caleb, thank you guys so much for being here
and for talking to us about Criterion Racing.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Good luck tomorrow. Can't wait to see you guys in action.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yes, thank you so much for having us. We're super
excited and can't wait to see everyone out there.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Absolutely, and we hope to be back. Gotta be back.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I mean it's got to be the first of many
exarbon turks exactly. Oh yeah, all right, love that. Go
see Izzy, and go see Caleb, and go see all
the other great professionals and even the people that are
not the professionals that'll be running in the earlier races.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
It's going to be a fantastic time.