Biden Debate Debacle

Episode Transcript

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We have another one of these.We have to make a pledge to each
other. Okay, we have tohave the Bengo cards, the Bingo cards.
That that was an idea that literallyspawned hours before the debate. There's
just no good way to do itproperly. But you know what, there's
merit to it. But the unfortunatething, Matt is I have no idea
who's going to be in the debatenow? Like that's all the way in

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September. There's so much time betweennow and then, Like who's to say?
Who's to say? I don't,I can't. I don't have a
crystal ball here. This is crazynumber two. Who was it that called
in do want to talk to youabout US soccer a couple of days ago?
Was a Rob Rod? It wasRod. Did you see what happened
last night? I heard about it? What has become of this country?

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Is there a luckier time to bea part of that team than last night?
When eighty million people were watching somethingelse? The United States men's national
soccer team on American soil dropped agame, a regulation soccer game to Panama.
They hopped the canal and kicked ourbutts. I mean let's be honest

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here before I get into this debatejargon and whatnot. Rod wanted me to
be super patriotic about the soccer teamand their two nil went over Bolivia.
You know Bolivia played last night too. Did you see that one? You're
a Guay beat them five? Nothing? It was like a tko. It
was like the debate last night.Okay, So I don't it was a
bad night to be in America.That's all I'm saying. Gee, United

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States men's national soccer team loses toPanama. Did you see Tim Waya?
By the way? Who again?I don't want to talk too much about
this right now. I know weneed to get into debate action, but
to lighten the mood just a littlebit, and not to lighten the moods
legitimately lighten the mood to a differentsubject, the fact that one of the
best offensive players on the men's nationalteam. Did you see how he got
thrown out? He punched a guy. He punched a guy, He just

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punched him, punched him. Sonow not only did he he got thrown
out in like the eighteenth minute,so they had to play most of the
game without him. And in soccerwhen you get red carded like that and
get sent off. You play himdown a man. It's like the other
team's on a power play the entiregame, you know what I'm saying.
So not only that happened, butguess what, he's suspended for a game
and he can't play in the nextone against Uruguay, the toughest team they're
gonna play. You know how thissets up? Panama plays Bolivia, they

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should win that game. If theycan beat Us, they're gonna kill Bolivia.
The United States has to beat Uruguaynow to even have a chance to
go on. The USA might noteven get out of the group stage in
the Copa America when it's played onUS soil two years before a World Cup
they're supposed to be a favorite inand the World Cup is in America,
right, I know, like likelike what are we doing here? This

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was like a dry run, likea like a dress rehearsal kind of for
the venues and the team and allthis stuff. They lose to Uruguay,
which they probably will. Uruguay lookslike they might be the best team in
this whole thing. They like,if that's the case, I mean,
his job's gone you have to.You have to overhaul the team again.
You have two years to figure thisout before the World Cup and we host
it. It's horrible. You knowwhat, this whole country needs. A

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BE twelve injection, A big timeB twelve injection. A A. I
don't. I was gonna like saygiant sized, like there was no good
way to make that sound good.All right, let's just do it.
Did the debate? Lie? Oh, by the way, do you see
the shirt I'm wearing. Yeah,that's a cool shirt. Read it to
the people largest largest corn hole tournamentAugust twentieth, twenty twenty two, Des

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Moines, Iowa. And then atleast now we finally know where the largest
corn hole tournament is. It's inDes Moines, Iowa. And look at
the bottom. Uh oh. Itwas an official attempt at a Guinness World
Records and we got it. I'min the record book. You got it?
Okay? Yeah, Well, thet shirts were done before they knew

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how many people they had. Igot you. But once they started the
tournament and they had that many peoplein the tournament finished, the Guinness people
who were there and monitoring everything saidthat they got it. So I'm officially
one of like a few hundred peoplethat were in this world's largest cornhole tournament.
Congratulations, I lost my first game. Ah. I was playing with
the CEO of the Blank Park Zooin Des Moines. We had fun.

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The two kids that we were matchedup within the first round found an open
pair of boards like off the siteand were practicing until they were called and
they beat us twenty one to four. Wow, that was my experience in
the fish. I waited around foran hour and a half to play my
match to be a part of theworld record and lost twenty one to four
and it was over in like fiveminutes. Man, I still have the

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T shirt. Still got the Tshirt. I thought that was unfair,
though, how are you guys practicingfor an hour and a half while we
have to sit here and wait inthe cold. It was rainy, it
was cold, it was bad.It was practice doesn't always make perfect.
Somebody else was practicing for a wholeweek for last night. Yeah, how'd
that go? Okay? So,remember I talked about the idea that there

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was a chance that this was doneto sabotage him from within, like they
wanted to do this as early aspossible, so people could see this and
this in like the narrative change.And I'm going to take a victory lap
right now. If you watch thedebate now, whether you're if you're at
the watch party, you saw thistoo. Debate started at what time last
night? Eight? You know whatCNN had on like seven fifty as eighty

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million people are getting to their TVsand changing over slowly like this big group
of people are about to switch overto watch this debate. You know who
was sitting for a one on oneinterview about ten minutes to the top of
the hour. Who California Governor GavinNewsom. He probably paid for that slot.
So the last thing you see ofany kind of analysis whatsoever isn't from

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people who were sitting on a panel. No, they did all that already.
The preview wasn't coming from people withinthe Democratic Party as like a whole.
It wasn't random people. It wasCalifornia Governor Gavin Newsom, who was
in Atlanta in attendance, getting histhoughts before the debate, literally as people
were about to watch the debate,a debate that all these networks, including

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CNN, touted as maybe the mosthistorically significant debate in American history, which
I don't believe, but it wassignificant for sure. It might be the
most significant of the televised debates.Those Douglas Lincoln debates back in the eighteen
fifties, those are important. Goback and read those. That's a late
eighteen fifty in the sixty those aresome debates. AnyWho. All I'm saying

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is this debate was touted as beingincredibly important. They pumped it for weeks
and as people an audience across allnetworks that they expected to be in the
seventy or eighty millions of people,a huge number that you never see anymore.
The flast thing they see before thedebate starts is California Governor Gavin News.
At that moment, I knew,oh oh, they just gave Gavin

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like a perfect commercial of his personalityright before the debate starts. So the
people who might not have been exposedto him are certainly exposed to him now.
They know who he is now.And then just fifteen minutes in,
Joe's dead in the water. Likeit didn't take long. Joe was already
out of it. He was stumbling, he stopped, he didn't know where
he was. It was over immediately. This is the kind of boxing match

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if it was going to be likea first round, like have you watched
Rocky Yeah, Rocky four, Iwould say it's exactly like the Apollo Crea
Drago exhibition match where the first roundstarts with, you know, things looking
like it might be on the level, and then by the end of the
first round, you're like, thishas to be stopped. That's over.
But they go to a second round, and then the referee should have stepped

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in and said this is the end. Well, instead of dying, the
political career of Joe Biden died infront of our eyes last night. Well
after that, we watched that forninety minutes, and it was a real
pain anybody who was tuning in randomlyhoping to learn something that definitely didn't happen
last night, other than if youdidn't know if Joe Biden was a zombie
or not, now you know.And immediately afterwards, CNN, the very

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liberal left leading network, their headlinethat started the post debate coverage was breaking
DEM's very worried about Joe Biden.So not only did they have this debate
that they threw Joe Biden out there, it was one hundred percent live.
He had no help. He wasstumbling and muttering through everything. Nobody knew
what he was saying half of thetime, and it was really just a

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horrific thing to watch, honestly.They bookended it with Gavin Newsom and then
the Liberal network talking about Biden isin trouble. I sat here a year
ago and said, look out forGavin Newsom? Did I not? Did
I not? Is this also whatyou call the tail wagging the dog?
Like CNN is like, hey,we're trying to take control of this narrative
for you guys and fix it foryou. Well, here's the other I

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have an answer for that as well, because I think I think it might
be even more inside than that.But they're compliant, and I will tell
you how coming up next stick around. This will be fun, A lot
of fun coming up here. Atthe two nineteen news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Emery's song on news radio eleven tenkfab was this not like in narrative

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push by the network to kind ofchange the whole vibe. Because this is
the Democratic network that hosted the debate, they are hosting the whole bit.
A lot of people simulcast. Butbefore, if you were watching just CNN
straight up before and after the debate, it was Gavin Newsom right before the
debate started, which was incredibly strategic. I've told you pay attention to Newsome.

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I told you. And then rightafter the debate, after they got
out of the simulcast, their postdebate coverage basically said reaking news DEM's worried
about Biden or worried about future ofrace after Biden's terrible debate. This was
CNN. This wasn't CNN. Usuallywhat they usually do is just like,
oh, I think that he dida very fine job. I think he

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won the debate. You know,if you look at this this and nobody
said that, nobody said that.The whole panel spent thirty minutes. They
didn't even mention Trump except for throwinglittle old jabs at him, like well
you definitely lied about this, andyou know he's lying about that and all
that stuff. But the first thirtyminutes of that coverage had everything to do
with how old and decrepit and outthere Joe looked and sounded. And the

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question is is the network now saying, hey, guys, we got this.
We're going to push this into overdrivewith our reach, our influence.
But I think it's inside. Ithink it's inside the National Party. And
here's why my theory, and thisis a theory. I don't have sources,
I don't have evidence. I'm justgoing from what i'm seeing here.
When the rules were initially proposed toCNN to host this debate, and that's

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what happened. First. It wasn'tCNN's just like, hey, let's have
a debate. You guys want todo this. It was the Biden administration
said, Joe wants to debate.Trump has challenged him to a debate.
He's going to take on that challenge. And they put the package together and
it was their rules. Everything thatyou saw last night, the no audience,
the MIC's getting cut off, theno notes and everything. The Biden
administration said, these are going tobe the rules. They took those rules

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and one of the things they addedinto that as they handed it to CNN
said if you agree to these,then you guys are going to get the
first debate. And one of thosethings was you have to work with the
administration hand in hand on everything.Okay, that was in the report.
That's the administration not the candidate.The administration is being run by the National
Committee. This is a Democratic partywith this guy as kind of like their

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figurehead or their spokes guy, ifyou will, the president. But it's
the agenda and the plans of thepeople behind the scenes in the National Committee.
This is why they fixed it tohave Hillary beat Bernie in sixteen.
They fixed it to have Biden beatBernie in twenty because they knew they couldn't
handle Bernie and his outlandish, crazycommunist vibes. They wanted to have an

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electable candidate that they could control.So what happened here was again Emory's theory.
They put this out in front ofCNN. CNN says yes, and
the DNC say, Joe does notwant to cooperate with us. He doesn't.
We don't want the American public togo through with voting in the primaries
and caucuses. We got to getthrough the end of that. We got
to get to the convention or justbefore the convention, to be able to

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get on the ballot with whatever newcandidate shows up. But what they're saying
is this is going to be thestraw that breaks the camel's back to get
Joe to realize he's got to workwith us to find a new candidate.
He needs to step aside if we'regoing to win. Do you care about
your country? And last night there'sno way. Hey, Jill, there's
no way, Joe, there's noway. Anybody close to them, there's
no way. Kamala who said hegot off to a slow start but got

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stronger as the and he finished strong. That's obviously bs, but she knows
the more time has gone on,the lower his approval rates have gone,
the lower her approval rates have gone. The only chance she has of getting
to be the president of the UnitedStates is if they win, if they
stay together in by November, theywin somehow in November, and then he

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resigns. After that, hands thekeys over to Kamala and says, I'm
going to resign. Kamala Harris isyour new president of the United States for
the next four years. That's theonly chance. She is going to be
dressing this up the best that shecan now. On top of that last
thing before I have to hit thebottom of the hour. On the network
front, why is the network importantin this because that is the network that

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democrats watch more than any other.If you are a left leaning person or
even a staunch Democrat or a superlefty liberal. CNN is a channel that
you have in your rotation that youwatch and if you want, like to
follow the news, they talk toyou and they spin it in your direction
every single issue that they talk about. So why would they go so far
to saying Joe Biden looked incredibly terriblelast night Because they want to start getting

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the narrative amongst the voters that theyneed to pressure Joe to not run,
and they have positioned Gavin Newsom tobe the guy. I'm telling you now.
I know people want to say,oh, Michelle Obama. I know
people are going to say Hillary Clinton. I know people want to throw out
Whitmer's and Shapiro's and Pritzkers and peoplelike that. I'm just telling you from
what it looks like, Gavin Newsomhas been positioned better than any of those

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people to pick up where the Bidenadministration is leaving off. We'll talk more
about this if you want to callin four h two, five, five,
eight eleven ten. A lot todigest, including Joe Biden speaking at
a rally today about his performance lastnight, which we will get to coming
up as well on news radio eleventen Kfab. Em Rie's songer on news

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radio eleven ten kfab. I'll takeyour thoughts. We'll get more into stuff.
And I have a SoundBite of JoeBiden today in Raleigh, North Carolina,
where he's doing another campaign thing,and I will play that for you
later on. So stick with us, but I want your thoughts right now.
Four two, five, five,eight, eleven ten, and Jason
is on our phone line. Jason, thanks for calling in man, what's

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up? Hey, Emmy, thanksfor having me on. Okay, so
let me first say, you getit now. I don't know if it's
because you're a younger guy and you'renot kind of blinded or clouded by the
romanticism of the waal Old politics wasdone. But this was very very much
a play of sorts, very mucha drama, and very much a setup.
And I couldn't help after watching this, this frightening display last night.

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And first of all, let melet me say, if you haven't watched
the last Harry Potter movie, definitelyHallows, turn the radio off. Okay,
So this is interesting, Jason.I was thinking about this to myself
because I like talking about movies andTV shows. Can we can we,
like right now, between the threeof us, Matt, me and you
Jason, figure out the amount oftime that needs to go by before we

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can spoil things like conscious clear,Like, I don't know if five years,
let's say, let's say there's afive year statue of limitation on spoilers.
Okay, is if Matt, doyou agree with this? Five years
about the right amount of time?I like it, But I also think
a couple seconds of letting the audienceknow ahead of spoiler alert works just as
well, because anyone out there who'slike, oh that was on my list,

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you know what I mean? Ye, now they can Okay. So,
so if you haven't seen Deathly Hallowsin the end of the Harry Potter
thing and you think you might wantto watch it, turn off the radio
for like a minute and then comeback to us because it's quite an interesting
into that saga. Okay, Jason, they've turned it off now, all
right, your turn, Okay,Okay, we'll clear. Okay. So
I just after watching that, Ijust couldn't help but wax like analogous to

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this amazing piece of art that illustratesreality in this case, and there's this
there's this scene and it's it's amazingwhere Dumbledore has to for those of you
that don't know the names, it'sthe long haired, gray haired dude in
the robe that's kind of the schoolmaster that's instructor. He has to tell
Snape. This guy that we've beentaught to believe is you know, kind

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of evil, kind of dark.We can't figure them out. But yeah,
he's like, we are led tobelieve that he's the villain here.
We're right, we're led to believethat that he has to tell Snape that
Harry Potter has basically been a pigraised for slaughter to be to be slaughtered
at a specific strategic time. Andit's masterfully done, and it's it's completely

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impactful and the perfect tie up tothis series. But you and you if
you start drawing these these these connections, so Snape, you know, if
if you look, if you lookat there's the part where where where Harry
Potter's mom is like dead in hisarms, and that's like the old Republic
hat apparatus. That's the old theold guards like that's gone. Snape is

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uh, you know, would Iwould say Dumbledore is like the legacy media,
the guy that's been carrying the water, keeping the secret and pretending in
the end that this is a bigsurprise or CNN. Yeah right, you
know what, and and and sothen it's it's I just it just felt
it's so this is also obviously calculatedand in such an act, and these

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people that are feigning shock and ohmy gosh, I didn't know he was
this bad. So you just weren'tlistening. You were watching told us like
two weeks ago that all these aredeep fakes and these are edited in bad
faith. Ye like, yeah,so how convenient. It's so now we
can we can we can he canfall on the sword for all the absolutely
asinine policies and all the destruction,and we can just brush him aside.

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Oh that was Joe. Gosh,you know, we'll try to fix things
now, but that Joe, youknow, he was Jason. Jason,
you got to call back in ifsomething else comes up. You're the movie
guy, Okay, So every timethat something happens, you got to find
a good movie that like illustrates thatfind that analogy and call us back.
All right, I got you keepit up, hey man. Thanks Jason,

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appreciate Bob's on the line. Bob, thank you for listening to the
show today. What's on your mind? First things, verse Emmy had the
anniversary for being Harry. You're thanks, man, and I'm I'm glad to
add you. I listened to Bakerfor a lot of time, and I
thought he was a kind of aacquired case. You are too, but
you're very counselment and you're very professionalabout things. Well, thanks Bobby.

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Anyhow, I called you the otherday about the about the Biden being worse
because you're ever gonna shut the micsoff and all that stuff. And Trump
did exactly what I thought he wasgonna do, very concise, very precise
answers, and he just let Joefeel himself. So what do you if
they think Davin Newsom's gonna come bland, as I know you've been talking about
that in six months, how arethey going to get Joe back out gracefully?

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And that's the question, right,that's the great variable. They're like,
Right, if he's the puppet we'veall said he is, then he's
going to get out of the way. But if he and his family say
no, he's the press and hewants to run this race, then they
would have to find a way toover his own party would have to overthrow
him because it's too late to runhim in a primary. It's too late
to have a challenger in a primary. Right, they're gonna have to do

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that in such a way they don'tlook so stupid that nobody's gonna votre correct
the bargain exactly, And last nightthey lost a ton of people, So
for sure, I'm just giving yourcredit where credit's new. You've been talking
by him for he is. Thanks, buddy, appreciate it. Bob,
thanks for listening to us. Gladto listen to you. Yep, bye
bye. I thought this. Youremember we were talking about Bryson de Shambeau

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and his like grow up, glowup over just like a short amount of
time because like a year ago,he's a he's a golfer, and everybody
hated him, total meathead, steroidfreak. This guy is like in his
own brain so much, and thenall of a sudden he kind of matured
even into like age twenty nine andthirty, where he like all of a
sudden became kind of a guy thateverybody's like, oh you know what,

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I kind of like him, andit's because he kind of had an attitude
change in the maturity of himself,in the way that he conducted himself,
and also the way that he talkedto people. And I'll be honest with
you, I've softened a little bitover the last like eight to nine months.
I'm learning about myself. So Bobsaying that I'm a little of acquired
a taste, I think I'm acquiringmy own taste, to be honest with
you, and I'm learning about myself. So it means a lot to hear

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that from somebody like Bob who thinks, you know, he wasn't so sure
about me at first, but nowhe thinks that I'm doing an all right
job. That means an awful lot. Mark's on a phone line four two,
five, five, eight eleven ten. Hello, Mark, Welcome to
the show. What are you thinkingabout? Hi, Amrie. You know,
I've called a few times and I'ma Biden supporter, and I also
watched CNN, and you know,based on Joe's performance at the State of

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the Union, even the Trump campaignsaid, I think Joe's going to do
good in this debate because it's musclememory, he's a seasoned politician. In
my mind, there is no wayCNN had any idea he was going to
do as poorly as he did.Hey, Mark, is that is all
lack of teleprompter? You think?Oh? I absolutely, I think it's

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like a telephone, And you know, I think you know, I remember
Reagan had a really bad debate ineighty four and what they said is they
shoved too much information in his mind. And his first debate was really really
bad, maybe not as bad asJoe's, but really really well. It
obviously didn't cost him very much whenthey actually got the voting, it didn't
well because he came back on thesecond one and did great. Right,

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Well, I don't know I'm goingto make the second one. I really
don't think Joe, if he hada second one, I don't think he
would do much better unless they withouttelling you. I just don't think he's
capable. So Mark, Mark,sorry to interrupt, Mark, who do
you want then? If it's nothim, then then who's who's the person
that you would prefer as a Democraticvoter? Well? I mean I think

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Newsome, I think the governor ofMichigan, Whimmer. I don't I don't
think Harris can be Trump. Butthe headline of the link of the London
paper today to me said it all. It said Trump lied, Biden's stoneled
the losers of the American people,and I truly think that we are losers

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by having these two to choose from, assuming Biden stays in the race.
Yeah, I think it's really reallysad because Trump was embarrassing he I mean
he anybody watching that new Trump waslying, fabricating, you know what,
eight things? Yeah, I mean, Mark, The only thing that I'd
push back on is that that kindof happens with every debate, and we

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just live in a social media eraand now where people can fact check a
lot quicker on things like that.I was reading a fact checking article from
like a very right wing side anda very left wing side, and they
don't line up exactly right when theytry to like call things out. Obviously
the right wing side is calling outa lot more Biden stuff, but both
sides still had a ton from bothcandidates that were just either exaggerated or and

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but I think that's the name ofthe game at this point, Mark,
is you just have to sound ascool as at his possible. I could
add one thing, Yeah, Righten, he had. He had some some
inaccuracies, but his were much muchmore minor, like saying insulin is fifteen
versus forty five. Trump's was well. He also said there were like a
thousand trillionaires in this country and there'sno such thing. Yeah, it marks.

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The worst life of all was thathe said he was a six handicap.
Mark. I mean like, assoon as he said he was a
six handicap, I knew the guywas dead in the water. There's no
way. Well you think Trump,Well, so you think Trump won two
club championships? I don't know.Yeah, I don't know. I just
know that he spends a lot moretime golfer than Joe does. At this
point, I probably I would behe's no scratch. Yes, that's what

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it takes to win a bit countryclub man. Well, I will tell
you this, I am not ascratch golfer either. Ay, Mark,
appreciate the call. Things to listeningto us. Sure we'll get to another
call real quick after this on newsRadio eleven ten Kfab Emery's songer on news
Radio eleven ten Kfab. You knowthis is uh, you know, I

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enjoyed the analogy there. I don'tknow anything about Harry Potter, but it's
very it's very apparent to me thewhole thing that's been going on with the
Biden administration has all been just ashow. Okay, the whole thing's just
been a It's just been a show. And when when people talk about replacing

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Joe Biden and at the same timetalk about saving our democracy. Okay,
we're a republic, we're not ademocracy. Yeah, but how democratic would
that be to just pull the plugin this guy without the voters getting a
say? It is totally undemocratic.These people are a joke, and they've

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known about this the whole time.And you know that Democrat they called in,
I'm sure he's one hundred percent forthe weaponization of the government against Trump
and all the supporters. And today, you know, your your Fox News
report talked about the overturning of afew January sixth convictions with that fifteen twelve.

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Yeah, there's like six hundred convictionsyeah on fifteen twelve, and fifteen
twelve is half of the case againstTrump and Washington d C. That's gone
now yeah, okay, So Imean everything is going bad for these Democrats
and this whole, this whole,this whole, you know, regime up

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there this Yeah, well this isone thing, Phil. If Biden stays
in the race after last night,I don't think there's any way he wins.
And I think they know that,and they are very concerned. But
I appreciate you calling in, man, always appreciate your perspective on things.
Thanks for calling us. Hey,and the Democrats deserve all of this good
day, Yeah, Phil chuckles,I'm in for that two fifty five.

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We'll get to more calls if youwant to call it in for a two
five, eight eleven ten. Runout of time this hour, but we'll
get to more in the three o'clockhour. We'll have a Friday for we'll
have some fun. I'll try reallyhard not to talk too much about the
United States men's soccer team, because, by the way, if you missed
that, and where's Rod, where'sRod? To call in and say,
why am I not being patriotic?They just lost a Panama they're gonna do

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They're gonna dump out in the groupstage of a continental tournament that they're hosting.
What are we doing here anyway?Yeah? Not great? But anyway,
I told you I wasn't gonna dothat, and then I did it
five seconds later. I guess I'ma liar, just like every politician ever.
More on the way, four ohtwo, five, five, eight
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mid two thousands. They got intomore reality based television and kind of kept
moving that direction instead of you know, sticking with you know, top twenty

(27:03):
music video countdowns and interviews with legitimatemusic artists. You want to know why
that happened, I think I gota theory, a hypothesis, if you
will. Sure, they realized thatthey are a business, and they needed
to get ratings, to get sponsorship, to get money, even though they
were called music television. And oneof the downfalls of the music scene as

(27:26):
a whole is because people that weregrowing up in our generation into the mid
early and mid two thousands started gravitatingmore toward that type of entertainment instead of
being obsessed with certain musical artists likethey were in the eighties and nineties.
Does that make sense? Like musicgot pushed on the back burner by our
generation enough where they stopped catering tomusic fans and started catering to fans of

(27:52):
entertainment. Well, so are yousuggesting that people like music less than they
used to. Yeah, it's lessimportant. Not that they don't like it
as much, but it's less important. Back in the eighties and the nineties
when we started getting cable television andstarted getting that stuff, even though you
and I weren't paying that close attentionto a lot of that stuff. The
reason it was on like that isbecause that generation loved what was going on

(28:15):
with Steve Pearcy, right. Theywanted to know where where Billy Idol was
going to be touring. They wantedto get some lowdown on Cyndy Lauper's new
album. You know what I mean. Well, yeah, they cared about
they cared about the Top twenty countdown, and they liked listening to their
music on TV, not just inthe radio. I'm with you too,
I'm with you a couple steps.However, my thought is I think that

(28:37):
there's a lot of examples throughout alot of TV and a similar industry sports.
You could like the d emphasis ofSports Center is because we can find
all those highlights online, and especiallywhen Twitter came around, social media came
around, we were seeing a lotof those top plays hit our phone and
hit our eyes before Sports Center couldcould gather them all together in one,

(28:59):
you know, thirty minute segment.So I think that the same could be
said for music, where it's likeyou're finding new music quicker than MTV can
can sort of like cull it foryou, you know, And so they
leaned into what was so you thinkeasier to replicate entertaining. I think the
availability of music becoming more accessible topeople led more to the demise of music

(29:21):
being on MTV than the change inpeople's entertainment habits. I mean, I
think an argument could be made forboth, but my thought is, look
at how that's replicated throughout other likelike the History Channel. When I was
a kid, the History Channel wasmostly just history docs. Yeah, and
I loved those docs too, Iloved them. But then what happened is
is pond Stars came around, AncientAliens came around. I mean, yeah,

(29:47):
the guys who fix up motorcycles andcars, and you're kind of like
they kind of lost the plot alittle bit, but they also probably found
a much more viable business formula,like reality TV is oh cheap and it
just so happened. I think MTVwas kind of on the forefront of finding
out that hey, this is reallycheap and also really popular. So those
two things, if those two thingsare you know what I mean, Like

(30:10):
when you're in a boardroom and someonesays it's cheap and everybody loves it,
what are we doing here? Yeah, like sign me up, We're done,
and somewhere in between the two ofus, I think good talk.
Anyway, let's go back to thedebate, the debate from last night and
get your thoughts on it. Fourh two, five, five, eight
eleven ten is the phone number.Gary. Thanks for being on the show
today and we appreciate the time.Let's see you thinking about today. Well,

(30:33):
I'm thinking about elder abuse. You. Last night was like a perfect
example of being a festered. Itcame to a peach and it's been going
and brewing for the last ever sinceBiden was elected. In prior when he
was running his wife and the peopleclose to him, the people that tell

(30:55):
him what close do we're in,which way to go and what direction and
when he had his memory lapses,where to go, what to do.
It's I hate to say puppeteers,but the people controlling him in the Upper
Democrat Party, all of them shbe accused of elder abuse and last night
was just the peak of it.Yeah, it's ridiculous that they put him

(31:18):
through that well, and he's complicitin the way that he wants to do
it, but he shouldn't be ableto make decisions for himself. Would they
let him drive a car if hewants That's a good point. I mean,
I went through this with my onehundred year old mom and I know
exactly. You know, in aone stop snapshot, everything was perfect.

(31:40):
People didn't even see there there wasanything wrong or whatever. But if you
live with them, if you workwith them, if you deal with them,
you see where the lapses are.And they festered through these last three
years or whatever, and last nightwas just a pinnacle. Just I was
so sorry for him. Yeah,no, I'm hearing you, man.
I thank you for calling in,Gary, appreciate your thoughts today. Thanks

(32:01):
for listening to us. We appreciateyou. Thanks like he had a first
world example of him having to havethose difficult conversations with his elderly mother to
let her know that she's not howshe was before. And I'm sure that's
awkward and I'm sure it's not great. But again, we accused Joe Biden

(32:22):
of being a puppet for the DemocraticParty. If he's the puppet we've thought
he was, then he'd be gettingout of the way based on the stuff
that we're hearing, but apparently basedon kind of how CNN is being a
viaduct. In the last twenty fourhours through the media, they keep pushing
Gavin Newsom on television. They keeptalking about how bad Biden did last night.

(32:45):
They keep I mean, Anderson Cooperwas really given Kamala Harris the business
for her not admitting the fact thatJoe Biden had a horrible performance. But
again, her success is directly tiedto Joe Biden staying in office. Approval
ratings are even lower than his are. There's no way she would win if
she becomes the nominee in November.So who has to be the one to

(33:07):
say, Joe, it's just youjust have to get out of the way.
Who does that? And if it'sreally a puppetry situation like we thought
it was, he'd be doing thisalready. So maybe it's a little bit
more real than we have given itcredit for him. Maybe he really is
making more decisions than we thought hewas. But I tell you what,
Gary's right, this is totally somethingthat if it was our elderly parent,

(33:30):
aunt, uncle, grandparent, wewould certainly be telling them that, you
know, we need to make somelife adjustments here. You wouldn't let him
get in the car. I'm notso sure they should be running for president.
Kevin's on the phone line at fourh two, five five, eight
to eleven ten. Hello, Kevin, welcome to the show. It's up,
Hey, Emery, thanks for takingmy call. First off, I

(33:52):
want to say, unlike one gentlemen, I've been confident of you from the
start that I think you took acall from me your first day on Eric
need to take my calls ever since, and I appreciate that. Well,
thanks Kevin. Well, we appreciateyou listening and for calling in. Last
night's performance throws kind of grief forme. A couple of things. Number
one, I now understand completely whyJoe Biden did not campaign three and a

(34:16):
half years ago. He wasn't capableof it. You take into consideration everything
we've seen him do on TV andheard about, all the gaps, the
bumbles, the stumbling, all ofit. He is in an advanced stage
of senility. He has not beencapable of making a decision of presidential decision
since he was installed, and rightafter he was elected, he couldn't get

(34:37):
one hundred and fifty people in hishometown to come hear and speak. I
am more convinced now than I everhave been that election was stolen. Well,
even if it's not Kevin, honestly, like, even if he legitimately
won, it was people that weremobilized to vote against Trump and not for
him. I exactly, you know, I don't believe that's what happened,

(34:57):
though not for a minute. Hisperformance night proved to me without a shadow
of a doubt. Yeah, no, Kevin, I mean it's it's worthy
of thinking that way. I mean, like in asking the questions because like,
how could this guy win an electionlike that? I appreciate to call
him back. Thanks for listening towho's been running the country for the last
three and a half years. Well, if he doesn't get out of the

(35:19):
way here, you have to putsome merit to the fact that he is
trying to do it himself. Youhave to because but I don't think so
either, Kevin. But there wouldn'tbe this kind of discourse in the Democratic
Party right now if he was likelegitimately in on the joke, right like
if I don't know, they areconsummate artists at blowing smoke up our collective.

(35:44):
But I think it's more smoking marrorgeBile. Well, we'll see,
Kevin. Time is going to tellon this, because we have to wait
until August for the convention. There'sa chance that they'll have to make a
decision before then to make sure they'reon all the states ballots. But I
would think that it's going to takea couple of weeks at least for this
to either die down or them toactually make a decision on how they're going
to move forward. And again,it's going to be undemocratic because they refuse

(36:07):
to have him run against anybody legitimateand the Democratic primaries because he was an
incumbent. I appreciate the call,Buddy, Thanks so much for listening to
us. Thank you. All right, we'll get to more calls coming up
momentarily. Keep listening in you cancall in four, two, five,
five, eight, eleven, ten. Love to take a call, and
we'll do more of that next.He's ready eleven to ten kfab him.
Thanks man. I just wanted tosay, we all need to cut Sleepy

(36:30):
just some slack. After all,his uncle Bosey was eaten by cannibals.
Oh, I forgot right, Like, how did this guy ever recover from
that? Yeah? Darn it,we need don't need to forget that.
Yeah, well, you know youwant to know something else didn't. His

(36:52):
son died about four different countries.And my favorite story is when he recounted
his conversation with a conductor on anAmtrak train he said he was on regularly.
He regularly used the Amtrak and theguy that he was referencing by name
hadn't worked for Amtrak since the earlynineties and had died a decade before he
had had apparently this experience, Sothat one to me that that was a

(37:15):
tough one. How do you copewith the loss of your ghostly, non
existent, deceased favorite conductor on theAmtrak? He certainly Rode, I have
no idea. Hard to make well, Hawary does what I want? Some
of him drugs, He's take whateverit was. It wasn't working for him
last night, Larry, I'll tellyou what. Thanks for listening, buddy,

(37:37):
Thank you. All right, allright, hey you got that audio
ready? Yeah? Yeah? Sohow do you follow up what was one
of the more embarrassing debate performances thatI think any of us has seen.
And again, I'm not trying tobe funny or sarcastic about it. It's
just a fact of the matter.This guy's running for president. He's got
to be treated like he's running forpresident. Well, he showed up in

(37:59):
Ramah for a scheduled campaign stop.Again, there's a ton of people that
are there. Of course they arebecause they're Democrats, and you know,
this is what happens. There arepeople that show up to anybody, right
like Matt when we run you forpresident and run you in the American Samoa
primary, you're going to have toshow up on that zoom call or whatever,

(38:20):
and there will be people that willlisten because they want to be politically
active and also because I'm such agood candidate. Of course, of course,
but only for American Samoa. Wehave to make that very clear.
Now. With that being said,I don't know what Matt would say to
the people of American Samoa. JasonPalmer won that primary mostly because he tried
to speak samoan too them. Ah, you might have to learn some samoan.

(38:43):
I wonder if we heard something samoanfrom Joe today. I have a
full statement here, Joe kind ofaddressing his well, he kind of addresses
the debate last night, but healso is trying to explain himself in another
way. And this is pinned nowon his social media accounts. So here
you go, Joe Biden and RaleighToday talking about his performance last night.

(39:05):
Let me close with this. Iknow I'm not a young man steak the
obvious. Well, I know,oh well I don't. I don't walk

(39:37):
as easy as I used to.I don't speak as smoothly as I used
to. I don't debate debate aswell as I used to. But I
know what I do know. Iknow how to tell the truth, deny
pause it for a second. Iknow. Okay, So I just before

(39:59):
we go on, this is thegas lighting that's going to keep him in
this race. If it is upto him. The fact that he still
has these moments and people are stillwilling to cheer for him despite what we
saw last night. These are thethirty three percent of people that felt somehow
that he won the debate when CNNdid their post debate poll. That's what
happened there, right. These arethe people that are keeping him in the
race because he does when he's surroundedby these people, feel like he is

(40:21):
still a very popular candidate and hecan get the job done. All right,
fire away, go ahead, Sorrymy bad. I know, I
know right from Rome. I knowhow to do this job. I know
how to get things done. Iknow, like the Minutes of America's no,

(40:42):
when you get knocked down, youget back up. Oh little fire
in there. I would like tosee him actual get knocked on again.
Stand out. Sure to take oureconomy in the depths of pandemic is where
it is today, the strongest economyin the world. Cough. I know
it'll take to bring this economy toeverybody. I know, take to rally

(41:06):
the world to stand up against puttinga defend free to not yield to him.
Can you say, take this economyto everyone? How's it wor take
to keep the world safe and freefor the years ahead. Folks, I
give him my words, a Biden, I would not be running again if
I didn't believe with all my heartand soul I can do this job.
Because quite factor, the stakes arettoo high. The stakes aren't too high.

(41:40):
This heed is cooked. And aslong as he has his own decision
makers around him and they see thiscrowd and he feels the way that he
feels when he's at these events,I guess we'll see if he was willing
to yield, because technically he hasto either resign. There are maybe a
loophole in the constitution that might beable to allow them to have like an
emergency candidate that's not the vice presidentto step in. But as it stands

(42:04):
right now, they have they havedug their grave on this one. And
I hate to get too close tohome here. If you want to call
in three twenty nine at the time, you can call in at four two
five, five eight eleven ten fouroh two five five, eight eleven ten
plenty more to discuss. We'll havesome fun as well on these Radio eleven
ten. Kfab Emrie Sunger on NewsRadio eleven ten kfab thanks for listening.

(42:24):
What's on your mind? Well,I just wanted to first of all say
thanks man, you have a greatshow going here. I think it's going
to go a long way helping alot of people too, because people need
to advent sometimes, no problem.I'm one of those people. I saw
that debate last night, and Itook away. I walked away with two
two important things leads from from myperspective. Mister Donald Trump is a very

(42:46):
intelligent man. Okay, you didnot want to put the president down like
you could have. Okay, I'mglad he did that. Made that decision
because if you want black vote,black mens been voting for all these Democrats
the last fifty years. He's goingto have to show a look to coorum,
meaning he's gonna have to be ableto put down show for the president

(43:07):
and say, with all due respect, was the president or something like that
that antagonized him. The only wayyou're gonna get this bad Joe ze is
to give him off his twice talkingpoint rose him anyway, pushing more nudgement
anyway, He's gonna just won't speakof those points. And he can do
that all the way to the WhiteHouse. Yeah. Well, well here's
the thing, Vincent, just tothat point, right, I think the

(43:29):
debate, like I went into it, and I haven't said anything about the
moderators, and I'll expand on thislater, but they everything about this I
thought was gonna make it like anaway game for Donald Trump, but it
ended up working in his favor.The whole thing worked in his favor.
It kind of controlled the environment towhere he didn't like even if he wanted
to jump in and interrupt Joe Biden, he couldn't, which I think works

(43:51):
in his favor with the independent voters. I think it was important to note
that when Biden's mike was on,he couldn't try to bait Trump into engaging
with him. He had to juststand up on his own and the moderators
let Joe talk, you know,and that really hurt him, I think
because the longer he went, thecrazier and more loopy it sounded, and
by comparison, Donald Trump seemed likemuch better candidate at the end of this.

(44:15):
I don't know how anyone could havesaid I think Biden's a better person
for the presidency after watching that lastnight. Well, it's two things.
Also, Trump is not a guythat really wants to go into the live
that he's already discussed, that he'salready told. He never goes back and
apologizes to lives. In fact,he never really apologizes for anything. Really,

(44:36):
I can respect that a bottom manif I know who you are from
day one, versus he having tobe lied to and then watch the country
fall into be monitored. So,Vincent, did you did you vote for
Biden in twenty twenty? Do youmind me asking yes? I did?
Okay? Well, like, wouldyou consider voting for a different demo if

(44:57):
there was a different Democrat in hisplay? Would that change the way that
you feel about the race right now? It would absolutely not change anything.
The reason Joe Biden is the presidenttoday is because God allowed it. It
wasn't because Joe was the sharpest guyin the planet. It wasn't because his
wife was kicking him inutes behind.And both of those things are true.

(45:20):
He's not the sharpest tool and shealways kicks him inutes behind. That's what
he loves about her. But thisis a man who lost his wife and
his daughter. He has a lotof good karma, a lot of good
positive energy around him, so heshould only go so far away from being
his real jail self until he getshome. But when he's a president,
he's there because he's there actually doinga pretty darn good job at keeping us

(45:44):
safe. Right now, Joe waswrapped up in politics. He's the best
president we ever had. We justdon't understand it because we're in a circumstance
right now. But if we lookback on twenty thirty years from now,
people are going to start appreciating Joebecause of what he's been doing is keeping
our ties. He's been keeping allthe people who live overseas don't really like

(46:06):
the president, don't even like America, but the life, the fact that
this guy cares about NATO and hetalks about NATO. Those countries depend upon
that money from NATO. Every refectionand protection is important when you're trying to
be a democracy. You can't justbe a democracy and protection. Yeah yeah,
Vincent, Well, Vincent, youknow, like you call it if
is it okay? I can?I can? I ask a couple of

(46:28):
questions about your your some of thestuff you just said, Yeah, okay,
So I guess my my first questionabout like, you know, I
don't like getting into the whole bestand worst thing, especially with recent presidents,
because it just takes a long timeto really understand the guy's legacy.
But like, as far as Bidenis concerned, the things that people are
talking about is the inflation and thecost of all this stuff, and then

(46:50):
the immigration at the border has obviouslybeen a top issue over the last year
or so. Can can you giveme an angle from your vantage point as
to how either of those things aregoing to be looked at favorably in the
future by people, and how that'sallowing you to continue to think that this
guy's the best president ever. Thereason Joe Biden's been in politics so long

(47:13):
is it took it took him hiswhole life. He's at the end now,
but it took him his whole lifeto become vice president. Right He's
in there frame years. He sawthe mistakes, he was in the White
House in the briefing room in themorning with the General and enough to do.
He had eight years to practice beingthe president. And that's what I'm

(47:34):
trying to do. He's using tacticsfrom Obama's way of thinking, which is
from a lower part of town throughthe highest height in the White House,
which gives him an advanceage. It'snot that Joe is smarter than everybody else.
First of all, if you lookat his name and look at Dowald's
name, it shows you a lotright there. Joe. Joe is a
leader. Joe can be dependable.You can rely on Joe's going to be

(47:58):
there every day. Okay, Donaldwas three days off the week. But
we understand he's a business man.Sure well, Okay, so Vincent,
just to do my best Jake Tapperinterpretation here or impersonation, but I asked
about inflation and immigration specifically, like, is there anything about either of those
things that you have a strong opinionon? Is it okay? There?

(48:21):
Joe, President Biden and President Trumpare the same person that comes from the
same era. Their dad had similarthoughts. That means, if you're going
to deal with the different color orrace of people, you're coming from a
different perspective from the time frame whenthey were growing up. Ath of those
guys grew up in the same timeera, so they're going to have pretty

(48:42):
much the same thing. You're goingto get some different version of it.
But it's and that goes all theway from immigration, that goes to dealing
with reparations, that goes to dealingwith infrastructure, that goes for dealing with
the debt. Everything is from thatperspective of the old school. And that's
what I respect about their generation.We need a president who understands the past

(49:06):
to help us stay on the pathof the past, ned it. We
need older gentlemen who's actually who understandshow they got to where they are.
Vincent, can you promise that you'llcall back at some point because I enjoy
talking to you. We may notagree on a lot of stuff, but
but I appreciate your perspective and I'dlove to talk to you more about stuff
when stuff is happening. Okay,as all right, and tell your friends

(49:28):
because if you guys are having thesekind of discussions a lot, I want
them to call in too, becauseI just this is interesting to me.
I appreciate you calling in, man. Oh yeah, yeah, good work,
thanks man, appreciate it. WHOA, Now, that was an interesting
call. But again, this isthe thing, right, if Vincent would
have said what he said and andsaid it in a way that it's like
really angry or really hostile, thenthat would have been a terrible phone call.

(49:52):
But because he was well spoken andwell thought out. Even if most
of what he said, like Ihave a hard time like agreeing with,
it's at least giving us the abilityto have that discussion. And this is
why I believe in my heart thatthe way people are talked to, especially
in politics, is more important andmakes you more electable than anything that you

(50:15):
could do with your policies. Peoplewant to vote for people who talk to
them a certain way and can communicatea certain way versus people who will you
know, even though I'm kind oflike a dry can of worms as a
personality, I really know how tobalance a budget and all this stuff.
Which person is more likely to beelected, Well, it has a lot

(50:35):
to do with the fact that theyare being communicated with. And that's why
charismatic leaders generally win, despite howgood they are or how much experience they
have. It's a hill all dieOn three eight, we got more on
the way, have some fun.We're gonna, you know, talk a
little bit more about the debate,but we also want to get to a
Friday four and have a little bitmore of a lighthearted discussion. Coming up

(50:58):
as well. On news Radio eleventen kfab Emery Sunger on News Radio eleven
ten kfab Bob, Welcome to theshow What's on Your Mind? Yes,
Emory, I just like that lastcaller, and I also liked your response
to him about the respect of youknow, the guy spoke well, even

(51:20):
though I disagree to some of thecomments that he was kind and slight,
and I go, why couldn't haveboth of those guys last night treated each
other like gentlemen? And I justthink we'd get a lot further along with
the whole process if they would startdoing that. So yeah, there's no
yeah, no, so Bob,there's no doubt that would be better for
everybody. But the reason both guysare electable now to their party, And

(51:45):
this doesn't even have to do withBiden as much as it is just an
opponent for Trump, because it's reallyjust Trump. Trump is he mixes it
up, and people who generally wouldn'thave listened to gentlemanly politics before got engaged
and involved because they'd never heard ofpolitician like that before. And then there
was a push to the other side, right of the people that were like,

(52:05):
oh gosh, you know, it'slike we need to have somebody who
stands up and talks like this guy, because people are willing to go and
vote for somebody who talks to themlike this, and we didn't think about
that before. And I hope thecycle because a lot of things are cyclical.
I hope that that kind of comesback to like you said, Bob,
because again, Vincent and I aren'tgoing to see it ideline on a
lot of stuff. But I respectwhat Vincent's opinion is, and I hope

(52:29):
Vincent respects my opinion. And thisis why I want to talk to people
like Brian and Johnny and some ofthe other people that would otherwise be considered
unhinged in a conservative talking space.I want to talk to them because their
opinion matters the same amount as minedoes. Because they vote, their vote
counts the same as mine does.We live in a country that we're supposed
to have the ability to think whatwe want and to be able to express

(52:52):
those thoughts, and the idea thatwe have people in this country that want
to just yell over the top ofpeople they disagree with, or just turn
off off the channel, or it'sbe so easy for me just to hang
up on somebody like that instead ofengagement in conversation. Nobody gets anything out
of that. And that's the unfortunatepart about the access that we have now
is we can talk to people ofany kind of background, but so easily

(53:14):
we can just turn it off orunfollow or block or mute or hang up
or drop line or whatever you wantto call it. And I don't know
what it's going to take to getback there, Bob, but hopefully people
like Vincent and people that listen toconversations like that will be able to be
like, you know what, Iactually got something out of that, even
if I don't agree with that person. That's my hope, right right,

(53:36):
Well, thank you so much andhave a great afternoon. I gotta get
going. Thank you, hey,Bob, Thanks you. Thanks to you
too for listening to us and beinga part of our show today. Three
point fifty four. I think that'sthe overarching thing that I think people want
when they say they want normalcy backin the country, But in the social
media era, I just don't thinkthat that's going to be as easily found
because of keyboard warriors, because ofpeople being able to speak their minds in

(54:01):
a way that they can immediately hidetheir face, be anonymous, or even
more likely they will just say theirbit and not have to listen to anybody
who opposes them. And when yousurround yourself with that kind of rhetoric over
and over again, you don't wantto actually face the reality that there are
other options out there, not necessarilyother candidates or anything like that, just

(54:22):
other ideas. Right Like, Icould sit here and we could debate basketball.
You know, Matt, you're abig man guy, right like,
you want to build your team fromthe post, Oh I do, I
do? Okay? And now Icould sit here and say, but the
analytics are telling you that that ifyou want to be a successful team in
twenty twenty four, you have tohave three point shooting and shoot at volume.

(54:43):
And you and I can debate this, and that doesn't mean that one
way is right over the other.There are options, and we can have
a gentlemanly discussion about that in away that we both can have our opinions
but also maybe learn from each otherin the same way. America should be
like that in everything that we talktalk about. But it's way more popular
and way more polarizing, and it'sobviously proven to mobilize people like Donald Trump

(55:07):
has proven to be angry to callthings out to be a Rabbel rouser.
Look at the wake of people likeMarjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gates who are
like that that immediately got elected inthe short term right after Donald Trump.
These are people that got it inspiredby the Trump political story to get themselves
involved. And I'm not saying thatthose are wrong ways. There are people

(55:30):
on the other side that did thesame thing, like the aocs right like
there are people of all types ofbackgrounds and political ideologies that feel this way.
I'm just thinking that if we asin America want to get back together
again, it's going to have tobe a collaborative effort from all sides to
respect each other's opinion if even ifwe know we're likely to disagree, and
that's how I feel, We'll domore fun stuff in the four o' clock

(55:52):
hours. Stick around with US NewsRadio eleven ten kfab