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September 30, 2025 • 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As far as the government is concerned, in the thirtieth September
is quite a significant date. This is usually the deadline
to try to get a budget figured out at the
federal level, and we have no guarantees that is actually
going to happen. In fact, it's probably if Vegas sportsbooks
were covering this sort of thing, certainly there would be
a level of favoritism as far as betting goes on

(00:23):
actually getting to a shutdown. Joining us to talk about
this and plenty of other things is the representative of
the first Congressional District of Nebraska, Mike Flood joining US Congressman,
thanks so much for being a part of the show today.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
All Right, shut down time and House Representatives, the rules
are majority wins, so the Republicans have the House. You
guys were able to get a plan together, get it
past the Senate to the Senate. In the Senate, you've
got to have sixty votes. That makes things a little
bit more complicated, and it doesn't sound like we're very
close at this point. Can you take me through what
you expect these hang ups to be because we have

(00:59):
both sides basically blamed each other for the looming shutdown.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, first of all, the House Republicans, we passed a
budget with no tricky business. I mean, we basically extended
the same budget that Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer supported
when they were in office, when President Biden was there.
And so for them to now say no, we don't
support this is asenine. I mean, I cannot understand what

(01:26):
they're doing. The government is going to shut down at
midnight tonight, and actually I do know what's happening here.
When Chuck Schumer did the right thing back in March
and he voted to extend the same budget that Biden passed,
he lost twelve percentage points of favorability in New York.
AOC starts whispering about running against him. Chris Murphy from

(01:46):
Connecticut says he'll take him down as the minority leader.
Former Speaker of Mariita Nancy Pelosi hammered him, Listen, he's
not going to do it this time because he's worried
about covering his own backside, and he's holding federal HOSTEG
employees hostage to do it. Listen, I've always voted to
fund the government. I voted to fund the government when

(02:07):
members of my own party didn't want to fund the government.
I have a clean track record on being consistent of
funding the government, and I call balls and strikes and
on this one, there is no reason for the government
to be shut down. This is purely the Democrats wanting
to curry favor with their far left base. I'm sure

(02:27):
moderate Democrats, in fact, one of them voted with us
to fund the government. I'm sure they don't want to
go through this exercise. And the one thing that's making
them do this, the one person that's making them do
this because they have Trump derangement syndrome is Donald Trump.
And ironically, when the government shuts down tonight, who in
government has the most power over federal spending immediately? That's

(02:50):
Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, that is strange, kind of referring to John Fetterman
of Pennsylvania, who has been willing to work with Republicans
throughout this administration thus far, and he's taken a lot
of heat from other Democrats about this. With that being said,
there's a lot of performative politics this, Like you mentioned,
Chuck Schumer is trying to save his own backside with
the way that he's kind of talking about this and
handling this. What I mean, you're sitting there, you are

(03:15):
in Washington, You're much closer than the rest of us are.
What does this shutdown look like? So let's say we
hit midnight and we're no closer to a deal than
we are right now. What ends up happening and how
do we get the shutdown to a halt.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, that means tomorrow morning, every off at airman goes
to that Stratcom base in Bellevue and they put in
an honest day's work and they don't get a paycheck
for it. That means that some sailors sitting on an
aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean and his wife's back in Norfolk, Virginia.
He's out there serving his country and she doesn't get
the money to pay for the baby and the house

(03:53):
payment and the cell phone bill and the car payment.
That's the effect of a government shutdown. That means that tomorrow,
if you are closing on any real estates, it's in
a federal floodplane. You can't close that deal because there
is no federal policy that can be issued because the
government is shut down. There's a parade of horribles that
happens when the government shuts down. We've got aircraftic controllers

(04:16):
that are gonna be working but not getting paid. Who're
going to have National Weather Service folks that are hopefully working,
not getting paid. And then there's going to be a
whole subset of the federal government that's going to be
closed tomorrow, and you're going to have problems unexpectedly. You know,
I worry about your passports. I worry about people, you know,
longer lines, the TSA counters. I mean, how long do

(04:36):
you stick around in a job when you're not getting paid.
That's that's just bad form and I'm against it no
matter who's in power. And you know what the worst
part is, Like I go to an event in Norfolk,
Go probably two years ago there was the threat of
a government shut down. Here's this eighty five year old woman.
She's a widow, her husband's passed away, she relies on
Social Security. She's watching all the news and she's scared

(04:59):
to death that she's not going to get her check.
Now you're going to get your solid security checks in
this process. But just the fact that we're putting somebody
that's lived their whole life, raising a family and doing
good things for their country and now she's stewing about
whether or not she's going to get a check. That's
the real life impact of a shutdown.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, Representative Mike Flood is joining us today on the
phone line. The shutdown is less than seven hours away. Again,
the Senate has got to do all the business to
try to figure this out. Doesn't seem like that's going
to happen last thing shutdown wise on this So from
that perspective, and you're in the House, the House has
done their business already. But when the government's shut down,

(05:40):
do we keep debating like on a minute by minute,
hour by hour basis, try to figure this out or
what's the timeline because you know, I've looked up there
have been ten government shutdowns before, including six in the
last thirty five years, and sometimes they're short and other
times it takes a week or more. To try to
figure this out. Is you know, if the government's not
getting paid, what's the inclination and urgency to all of

(06:04):
a sudden try to change your mind after you've made
the statement of the government is shut down and you're
blaming the other side.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, right now with the Democrats want or an additional
one point five trillion in spending, including free health care
for illegal immigrants. That is absolutely tone deaf. My sense is,
you know this is My sense is this is going
to go a week. I hope I'm wrong and it
goes twenty four hours. If we end up in one
of the last one was thirty five days, that would

(06:32):
be bad. And the whole point of continuing the funding
is so that we can find a bipartisan mainline budget
on November twenty first, honor before November twenty first, and
that shut down. If it goes thirty five days, I
guarantee the appropriators won't be talking about what should be
in the budget. They're going to be talking about how
to reopen the government and what demands the Democrats have. Listen,

(06:55):
if I thought we sent something over to the Senate
with a poison pill, I'd be the first to admit it.
I probably wouldn't have voted for it because I want
the government funded. I wouldn't want to play games with this.
But we sent over a clean continuing resolution that is
the same budget they all voted for, the same one
Joe Biden signed off on, and the same one Senate
Democrats supported in March. If you're applying the reasonablest standard.

(07:20):
I think this one more than qualifies.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
We're being joined here by Congressman Mike Flood. You are
a big town hall guy, and I wanted to touch
on this. Town halls have been a thing that i've
kind of I watched them. I see highlights of them.
I see people just show up to bombard you with
criticism and to basically try to take over your town

(07:46):
hall so nothing constructive gets done. I saw what happened
to Jony Earnstead of town hall, where she kind of
got trapped into saying something I'm sure she regretted afterwards.
You see town halls and they just feel like they
have become a stage for the performance of the opposite
party or people who are opposing the politician who's just
trying to listen to constituents and answer their questions. Why

(08:09):
are you such an advocate for the town halls? And
you know, why has your experiences not deterred you from,
you know, saying maybe this isn't something we should do anymore.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I just think, if you're an elected office and for me,
this is the right thing, show up in the town square.
Like when I vote the way I vote, I do
it for a reason, and I'm happy to explain it.
And I don't care who shows up. If someone wants
to yell and scream and yell fascist, their behavior speaks
for itself. I'm not going to lose my cool, but
I am going to stand to the town square and say, hey,
this is why I'm voting this way, this is what

(08:40):
it was about, this is the way it works. And
you know, you can learn something. You know, I had
a guy come up to me at a town hall
in Columbus and he had concerns about the way the
postal retirement worked. I went back to Washington. I made
sure we fixed it in the bill. I mean, they're
not they still have value. And you know what, when
I ran for Congress, Jeff Fortenberry before me, he did

(09:02):
town halls for seventeen years. Somebody asked me, you're going
to hold town halls. I said, yes, I will hold
town halls. You know, my background is as a lawyer
and a broadcaster, and you know, I'm going to use
the skills that I have to show up and defend
my votes and talk about the future of our country
and let the chips fall where they may. And you know,

(09:27):
here's a great story. I was, I always stand out
in front of the town hall every time and greet
everybody that comes in. And one of the guys outside
of Lincoln I see him. I recognize him. Oh he's
the one person doesn't agree with me, and it's very vocal.
I see him in line. I shake his hand. I said, Dan,
good to see you again. You were in Columbus and
Seward and now Lincoln. He goes, yeah, thanks Mike, and

(09:49):
he goes, how's your summer. I said, oh, it's been
going good. I said, how about yours? It's like good
and good. So we're having this great conversation. Fifteen minutes later,
he's jumping up and down, flipping me off with both
fingers and yelling fascist. I was like, this is performative, right, Yeah,
Dan and I get along outside and then he gets
in front of the camera and game on. Right.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, that's the unfortunate rhetoric of the United States in
a nutshell right there, where you know, all of a sudden,
they feel like it's their time to shine, incentive anything productive.
It's just unfortunate. Last thing for you, Congressman Flood, A
lot was made of you being one of four Republicans
who voted against Republicans who were trying to censure ileon

(10:31):
Omar in the House of Representatives for her comments about
Charlie Kirk. And it was a very heated time in
the US. It was a very heated time in the
way people talked about different things, including Charlie Kirk and
his legacy after his death. And while I had you
on the phone, I wanted to have the give you
the opportunity to try to explain to the people here

(10:53):
listening on Kfab as to why you voted in favor
of keeping like not censuring her against Republicans in that regard.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, thanks for the question and thanks for the opportunity
to talk about it. So I'm going to take you
back to George Santos. So, when George Santos was they
were trying to censure him like four or five times
in a row, and I always voted no. And I said, listen,
I'm not going to tell the people of New York
that their member can't attend committee hearings until it's gone

(11:24):
through the Ethics Committee process. And after the Ethics Committee
returned its report, I voted to expel him, which means
for the first time in a lot of years kick
him out of Congress, which is a pretty extreme remedy.
The week before this Omar thing, it was Miss McIver
and she got into a scrape with ICE detention agents

(11:45):
in New Jersey. And I asked the question, is she
in front of the Ethics Committee? And they said, yes,
she is. I said, is that report coming? And they
said yes it is. I said, okay, I'll vote to table.
I'll go through the Ethics Committee a week later. Of course,
the worst actor on the left and part of the squad,
and I detest everything she stands for. I can't stand

(12:08):
her anti Semitism. I can't stand her connections to Somalia.
I can't stand her rhetoric. And I certainly was disgusted
by what she said about Charlie Kirk. I asked about that,
and she's done a parade of horrible things throughout her career,
things that are much more worse than what she did
with Charlie Kirk. And so I said, I'm going to
apply the same standard. Here's the deal. What goes around

(12:31):
comes around, and when the Democrats are in charge of
the House, I don't want to get kicked off my
committees on behalf of everybody in Nebraska because they're in
the majority, and in less than six hours, without a hearing,
you can kick somebody out. I've been in this business
a long time. I was a speaker of the Nebraska Legislature.
When you take the training wheels off, and this is

(12:53):
adult swim, you've got to think about what happens in
five years. Are we going to create a system where
with out of hearing you can tell somebody else's congressman
or congresswoman. You don't get to go to your committees anymore.
That's a pretty big deal. It's happened twenty nine times
in the history of the United States, and it's turned
into this partisan weapon. And I was in Congress when

(13:15):
Nancy Pelosi was in charge. I was there when they
did this to Paul Gosar for putting a meme on
the internet, and with less than twelve hours his constituents
got zero from him on a committee. So when we
talk about thinking about the long game, sometimes you have
to cast a vote that in the moment it's hard
to understand. But in the long run, if we're going

(13:36):
to protect our ability to serve our constituents, let's run
this stuff through the Ethics Committee, Let's have a hearing,
somebody has to do process, and then let's act. But
if we start acting the way we're inclined to. And
by the way, Nancy Mace, she got what she wanted here,
she got on Fox News, she got her fifteen minutes.

(13:57):
She's running for governor of South Carolina in a very
heated primary. And you know when you show up at
work and you say we're going to center somebody. I
haven't even had the time to even unpack everything that
Illian said. But here's what I did. The next day,
I filed a nineteen count complaint with the Ethics Committee
asking to censure and or expel billion Omar my effort.

(14:24):
My tact has more teeth, more meaning it is not partisan.
It is based on the conduct of the member. So
there's how I got to where I got and it
is what it is. And you know what, people can
disagree with me, and I totally get it. I mean,
this is this is a very you're right, emotional time

(14:44):
in our country's history. The Charlie kirkssassination has a lot
of people on edge. I totally get it. But in
that moment, I felt that we needed to go with
our process and not throw it all out just so
that we could get.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
A quick win represented my flood. I don't think you
can ask for better transparency than that on this or
anything else. Congressman has always a real pleasure to speak
with you. Thanks so much for the time, and I'm
sure we'll be checking in again with you very soon.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Sounds good, Have a good day.
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