Continuing Developments From Des Moines School District

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The big story nationally that is regionally kind of.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
In our listening area.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I mean, it's not not in my listening area technically.
Is the Ian Roberts the moynes superintendent situation, And my goodness,
we still we still have more twists and turns. Is
there enough? Like I didn't know there was gonna be

(00:32):
this much juice. We sat here on Friday when when
this happened, and I told you this is a big story.
I thought it was gonna be a gigantic story. I
didn't think it had cracker barrel legs on it though
that it was just like every day there's a different
thing happening. To keep it in the news, we played
yesterday some audio from what would have been Tuesday nights

(00:55):
board meeting with the the Moynese Public School Board where
they accept the resignation of who they kept calling doctor
Ian Roberts, even though we knew by that point he
didn't have a doctor in from Morgan State University, they
still insist on calling him doctor Roberts. We played the audio.

(01:18):
They basically said, this person had an energy and enthusiasm.
This is a tough time for all of us, but
we will we accept the resignation of doctor Ian Roberts. Well, now,
basically as I was ending the show yesterday, a new
statement has been provided to the public from des Moinese

(01:39):
Public Schools. For the record, I have reached out to
Jackie Norris, who is the chair of the des Moines
Public School Board. She replied to me and said, Uh,
all of the interviews were doing in the media. I
am sending to our communications director, Phil Rohterer. Phil Rhader
is the guy that has basically been doing the storytelling
of the timeline and how they found out that Ian

(02:00):
Roberts was being detained by eyes and all that stuff
in his job as director of communications. Makes sense that
he's trying to handle this that I've seen Jackie Norris
on television stations in des Moines. I've seen Jackie Norris
try to pine for people to put money into her
senate campaign. I don't know why she won't talk on
the radio. Maybe she's just fearful of the questions I'm

(02:21):
going to ask. But as far as Jackie Norris is concerned,
she led me to Phil Roder. So I emailed Phil
Roder and copied Jackie Norris on it and have never
gotten a reply. I even framed it as like, I
think you guys need to be able to tell your
side of the story here as to how the school
board was bamboozled by this guy. Well, now I think

(02:41):
I know why they don't want to talk, because they
have officially said we know he lied to us before
we hired him.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Here's the statement which was provided last night by the
Des Moines School Board, and I quote for clarification purposes
that a Mones school board wants to provide additional context
on the current speculation surrounding doctor Roberts's resume. Doctor Roberts
provided an initial resume to JG Consulting that indicated he
earned a doctorate from Morgan State University. During the background check,

(03:18):
which was the responsibility of the search firm, the degree
error was flagged and the resume was revised to note
abd or all but dissertation, which is required to earn
such a degree. The revised resume is what board members
had when they interviewed the finalists. The board was aware

(03:39):
doctor Roberts did not graduate from Morgan State University at
the time of his hiring. After doctor Roberts was hired
in May twenty twenty three, there was an FOIA request
for the documents related to his hiring. At that time,
DMPs reached out to JG Consulting to ask them to
provide a copy of the documents. The documents provided by

(04:03):
JG Consulting included the original resume and not the revised resume. Now,
I'm about to read a quote from Jackie Norris here.
I'm going to stop here for a second. Let's just
think about this. The consulting firm had to correct the
resume of a person that they brought as a candidate
to the school board. Then after they corrected the mistake
on the resume, they gave the original resume back when

(04:26):
there was a you know, request for the documents related
to the hiring, you know, for public record and whatnot.
So all of a sudden, everybody who was involved in
the hiring process somehow forgot that, Oh yeah, he didn't
have that doctor and he said he had, which means
the only doctorate he would have had is from the
for profit university called Tried It University International, which on
his resume he had tried in American University, which is

(04:47):
not the same thing, or it doesn't even exist. And
they aren't talking they're a for profit online in University Peyton.
If you want to get a doctorate and something, I'm
sure you could pay enough money to tried it University
International and they'd give you a doctorate in something and
we'll see if that actually works out in your favor
in a way that everybody's going to be like, oh, yeah,
he's qualified to do this job. They continuously are talking

(05:11):
to him about saying, doctor Roberts, he's not a doctor
as far as anybody's concerned. Here now, here's the quote
from Jackie Norris, school board president or school board chair
or whatever you want to call her, And remember what
she said about this guy over the last week, and
I quote, I want to be clear. In a world
of misinformation and disinformation, speculation becomes narrative and blame is rampant.

(05:36):
The Des Moines School Board is also a victim of
deception by doctor Roberts, one on a growing list that
includes our students and teachers, our parents and community, our
elected officials, and iowa's Board of Educational Examiners, and others.
We are committed to the community we serve and will
find ways to improve our entire process as we move forward.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
End quote.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Okay, Jackie, I say this with all due respect, screw you, Like,

(06:20):
are you kidding me with this? You waited five days
and now all of a sudden, you guys are the victim.
You could have played the victim all along and said, hey,
we were lied to by everybody. But it's only when
you admit you already knew he was a liar on
his resume that you're like, oh, wait a second, don't forget.
We've been victimized too, Jackie. Your school district has staged

(06:41):
walkouts from kids aged like seven all the way through
high school, of kids getting out of school just so
they can protest this guy's detainment.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Who's telling them to do that? Is it your teachers?
Is it you?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Is it the principles of the schools themselves? Is it
some sort of George Soros funded protesting guru that kind
of got into the ear of people and said you
could make a powerful statement by having your kids do
the protesting for you. Ain't nobody changing their mind, Jackie.
Now your kids look dumb, You look dumber, and everybody
in the school that's just gonna have to answer for this.

(07:17):
So who are the real victims here?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:19):
The kids are victims, the parents are victims, the community's
a victim. But you are the last in line on
the victim list. And I say this with all due respect.
I just cannot imagine what goes through a person's mind,
or a school board's mind who slowly but surely realizes
that this guy had conned them and they let him

(07:40):
con them. I've come to their defense. I've gone to
bat for them on so many occasions over the last
five days because it's just not them. And I got
something coming from that Pennsylvania school district that he used
to work out, because they all of a sudden have
a lot to say now that all this is coming out,
And I'll get to that in a second, but they
got got to JG Consulting's not the only firm that

(08:02):
got got by this guy, too. Baker Ubanks is not
the only background check agency that didn't see his visa status.
All these schools from Baltimore to Washington, c to the
South Bronx to Saint Louis, all across the United States.
The people he's worked with, they apparently had no clue
about what this guy's history is. They didn't know how
old he was. He was using different birth dates, he

(08:24):
was using different Social Security numbers, and on top of that,
he was lying about the degrees that he had. This
was not one person that saw this. This was many,
many people that were victims of this con man. So
in that situation, yeah, I do say the De Moines
Public School District got got by a con man.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
But they opened the door, they let him in. And
now they're telling.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Us that they knew there were red flags on his resume,
they hired him anyway, and only after they admit that
now they're trying to say that they're a victim. Give
me a break, Jackie. Maybe you need to go take
a hike and start campaigning for your Senate campaign. That's
all I'm saying. Heat coming off my forehead there after
that last little bit of monologue here. And I appreciate

(09:08):
the messages I'm getting via email my phone. I haven't
opened the phones yet. We'll get to more phone call
situations here coming up, and I only have a couple
of minutes here. But to add to this conversation, there
has been a letter sent out by the Mill Creek
Township School District, which is in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
This is the.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
School previous to des Moines that Ian Roberts was the
superintendent for. They have a huge letter here that they
sent out, and I honestly I want to read this
because there's a lot in it and it kind of
sheds light on the previous stop that Roberts had before

(09:51):
he came to Des Moines, and then all this stuff
hit the fan a couple of years later. The update
that we have today is that he's no longer in
Sioux City's no longer at the Woodbury County Jail. In fact,
as of a Woodbury County Jail official, he's no longer
in custody there. At ten forty five am Woodbury County
Sheriff Chad Sheehan posted on the office Facebook page. As

(10:15):
of Thursday, October second, twenty twenty five, Ian Roberts is
no longer in the custody of Woodbury County Sheriff's Office Jail.
Mister Roberts was taken into custody by the United States
Department of Justice on a federal warrant for his arrest.
All inquiries shall be directed to the US Department of
Justice or the US Attorney's Office. End quote WHEO, And yeah,

(10:40):
that's pretty crazy if you didn't think it was crazy enough.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yet.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
The legal team for Ian Roberts is holding what they're
calling a town hall tonight at Corinthian Baptist Church in
Des Moines to address the case publicly and answer the
public's questions. And it's supposed to start at six o'clock tonight.
So obviously I'm not gonna be there. I'm not going

(11:07):
to be paying attention to it in the moment, but
I can imagine that's gonna end up being quite the
circus with protesters on both sides and them trying to
plead innocence for or maybe even ignorance for this guy
who allegedly had multiple doctorate.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Degrees on his resume. Oh yeah, what a dubby. He
had no idea that he wasn't a US citizen. Gosh
darn it. Oh yeah, he thought he could vote in Maryland.
He had no idea. Give me a break.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
We were talking about different things as it relates to
Ian robertson the continuing snafu, that is his particular situation
with the Des Moines Public School district. And now he's
not even in custody in Iowa anymore. He's now in
the custody of the United States Department of Justice for
federal arrest, and that I'm sure stems mostly from not

(11:55):
just his immigration status, but he was registered to vote
in the state of Maryland, so that in and of
itself is going to be another thing they're gonna have
to look into. Now with this, we were talking about
Mill Creek Township that is a school district in Pennsylvania
where Ian Roberts was the superintendent there before he got
the De Moin job. So if again, I the Des

(12:16):
Moines School District is bearing more and more responsibility for
this stuff as the days go on, because we're finding
out that they absolutely knew about some of this stuff
being incorrect or false on his resume, still decided to
hire him anyway, And then now they're having to eat
the crow that is being served to them because they
were so excited to hire this guy.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
And you can say it's DEI.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
You can say it's because you know, he's a guy
from Guyana. He dresses very nicely, he's got a great personality,
he's very charming, like a lot of con men are
in a lot of ways. But you have all this
swirling and clouding around this guy, and they still hire him.
Even though there's a bunch of red flags on the resume. Well,
Mill Creek Township, after some of this stuff has come out,

(12:57):
they're not happy. And as they said, they're playing to
sue the consulting agency that helped him hire this guy
because obviously a ton of stuff on his resume when
he applied there was false And then you look at
you know, can they sue him. I'm sure they're gonna try.
I don't know if you're gonna get anything out of it.
At this point, this guy was making three hundred thousand
dollars a year in the moint. That's public money. I

(13:19):
don't know how much they were paying him, but it
was enough that, you know, like they had to be
like scratching their heads at this. And then beyond that,
it's not even just that. Think about the impact he
potentially would have had, and then not only do you
have the impact he would have had in the community, which,
for better or worse, I'm based on everything we hear
about this guy, it's usually very positive. But they had

(13:42):
to pay two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in a
settlement for somebody who claimed apparently won the settlement that
they were wrongly taken away from their duties at Mill
Creek Township. So the school district not only paying him,
but as he was leaving to go to the Moines,
had to pay two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in
a settlement. Not great anyway, Ian Roberts. This is the end.

(14:05):
They outline all of this Mill Creek Township School District
in Pennsylvania, and here's how they finished out this letter.
We understand that once sorry, let me try again. We
understand that we once welcomed Ian Roberts into our district
with open arms. However, now we have realized that we
were profoundly misled in a way that undermines the very
foundation of integrity upon which our district prides itself. As

(14:28):
we move forward, we will work to uphold that integrity
and be models for our students, our families, and our communities.
The students, families, and staff of the Mill Creek Township
School District deserve to be led by officials with the
highest level of qualification and integrity. We are fortunate to
have the leadership team in board that is currently in place,

(14:49):
and we are confident that as a community, we will
overcome this challenge together regards Mill Creek Township School District
Board of School Directors. Now, they're in a pretty good
place right now, because it's been over two years since
he left their school district. They have moved on. They
do have the ability to say, we're in a much
better place now than we may have been when we

(15:10):
hired him. We're in a much better place now than
we were when he left. There's still going to be
people that are probably there overlapping that time and saying
how could you possibly let this happen? But they're blaming
other people. The Lamoyite Public School District and their bored
They were slow to blame anybody. They said, we're disturbed

(15:31):
by what has happened with doctor Ian Roberts, and that
was on Friday. We'll put him on paid leave while
we figure out what the heck happened. Over the weekend,
we learn about some of the stuff that was not
on the level. By Monday they say, okay, the Iowa
Board of Educational Examiners has officially revoked his license to
be a superintendent in the state of Iowa. So they

(15:52):
have a meeting on Monday and say, okay, I guess
we're putting in on unpaid leave. More and more comes
out Tuesday. He instead of they give him a opportuned
to show that he is a citizen in the US,
he instead gives them a letter of resignation. Through his
new attorney, Alfredo Perish, who was really a civil rights
kind of lawyer in Iowa. He's always in these types

(16:12):
of litigation. He's made it work. I mean, he's made
a career out of it. But this one is going
to be a tough one for Alfredo to be able.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
To work out well.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Through him, they said, well, here's his letter resignation because
we don't have the citizenship information that you're looking for.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
But also.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Here's what you're looking for from Ian's perspective. Here's a
letter from March to this year saying that he had
his citizenship stuff figured out. You're telling me a guy
that with alleged doctorates of education has no idea what
his own citizenship status is, had no idea. There was
an order for him to be removed from the country
in April of last year under Joe Biden, of all people,
and then now that it's being enforced, some other immigration

(16:53):
attorney sent him a very strangely worded letter in March
of this year, saying, yeah, it's all good, You're fine.
Guy with a doctorate has no idea what his own
status is in this country. Okay, that's very strange. We
still have no answers for the gun. We have no
answer for the knife. We have no answer for the
three thousand dollars in cash that he had in the car.
There has been some speculation from his attorneys that basically

(17:16):
say he was carrying a gun because in his younger
days he was going on actual raids against cartels in Guyana.
There's no way we're going to be able to prove that.
But he's carrying a gun thirty years after he would
have been doing that. He's been in the United States,
either doing college stuff or working for school districts since
nineteen ninety five. He's still like he's still running from

(17:38):
the cartel from Guyana.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Of all places.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
All right, whatever, I'm sure Alfredo's going to try to
spend as much of this as he can to try
to make people still feel sorry for him. For the
kids that have walked out of these schools, you know,
protesting his detainment. It's like, who's telling them what's going on?
Here that this guy just wasn't who he said he was.
He can be an he can be a good person.

(18:01):
He can be somebody that made them energetic about school
and made them excited to be at school. In the
Moyne Public School district, that's a pretty important thing because
it is not a very good school district.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I gave him kleyan.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
They don't have a lot of participation in extra curriculars.
This guy gave a lot of energy. I could see it.
I understand it. People universally thought he was a good dude. Well,
at the same time, he can be a con man.
He can be a liar, and he could have fabricated
a lot of the stuff that he had on his resume.
And now you have multiple school districts that are saying, uh, oh,
what did we get ourselves into with this guy? And

(18:32):
the des Moines Public School District who's on the hook
right now? We're the slowest ones to try to blame
somebody else. So they accept his resignation on Tuesday, and
by Wednesday now they're saying, yes, we knew he lied
on some of the stuff on his resume, but you
got to remember we're victim too, don't forget us the
des Moines Public School District. We're a victim too little,

(18:52):
too late to be doing that as well. And Jackie Norris,
the chair of the Des Moines Public School Board, she's
still going on our social media trying to get people
to be interested in helping her Senate cause I have
her Twitter account up and she I mean, she's getting
ratio so hard it's sad. Yesterday she posted Republicans control

(19:15):
the House, the Senate and the White House. It's the
responsibility of my opponent, Ashley Henson and her party to
keep the government open. She's just like stuff like this.
It has seven likes in two hundred and twenty seven comments.
Poor Jackie has less than two thousand followers, and she
is getting absolutely steamrolled on everything that she posts on
social media because she's trying to run for Senate while

(19:35):
her school district is dealing with this horrific situation. They
can't trust her or anybody on the school board. And
she's still trying to get people to donate to her
senate campaign. This is going to be a movie, it
really is.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I know.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Idri Selba is going to play Ian Roberts when we
get to actually shooting the movie. We just got to
figure out who Jackie's going to be in all the
other characters. It's going to be great. We have a
new development in the Ian Roberts Des Moines Public School superintendent.
Calamity is what I'm going to start calling it. It's

(20:09):
a calamity, it's a snaffu, it's a speckeldorfing, it's all
sorts of stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
A federal court document was officially filed on Wednesday. We
are now learning about it today as Ian Roberts has
officially appeared before a judge and US District Court in
the Southern District of Iowa today. He has been charged.
An ATF, which is the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms agent concluded that former superintendent of the Moynes Public Schools,

(20:39):
doctor Ian Roberts. They're still calling him doctor. I don't
understand why. But Ian Roberts possessed firearms as an illegal alien.
That is a federal crime. Now, there's a lot of
other things in here about fraud. There's a lot of
things that you can talk about about his immigration status,
him registered voter in Maryland. He's going to be in

(20:59):
a lot of trouble for a lot of things. The
criminal complaint we have it like some additional details about
the guy and about all this stuff though, So that's
why I think it's really really interesting to follow up
on this. The criminal complaint says Ian Roberts entered the
United States in March of nineteen ninety nine on an
F one visa and F one visa. I'm not exactly

(21:22):
sure what that allows you to do, but it officially
expired in March of twenty twenty four, so that timeline
lines up with him.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
In May of.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Twenty twenty four, there was the order for his removal
from the United States when the visa Expired's a twenty
five year visa, so for whatever it's worth, I mean,
that's not nothing. Now, as mentioned, he's no longer in
Woodborough County Jail. He's now in the custody of the
United States Department of Justice because of this federal charge.

(21:53):
He did file for permanent resident status on multiple occasions
in May of two thousand and one, again in May
of twenty eighteen. A couple months later, in July of
twenty eighteen, he filed for permanent resident status. US Citizenship
and Immigration Services denied him each time that he asked

(22:17):
or filed for permanent residency for whatever reason. In twenty twenty,
he filed an adjustment of status form based on his
marriage to a US citizen, but was also denied due
to failing to respond to a request for additional information.
So he said he was married to US citizen, which

(22:40):
would have been a different filing. You know, people do
this all the time. People are saying, ileon Omar married
or brother to be in the United States. I like,
what the heck are we doing here? It's crazy If
you didn't thank the immigration and visas system in the
United States needed to be adjusted, like like, this is
the kind of thing we're talking about. So the document

(23:01):
reveals that Roberts had not lawful employment authorization since December
of the year twenty twenty. So it's been almost five
full years since he's been actually legally able to work
in this country. And somehow he still was employed as
a superintendent of a public school district in Pennsylvania and
the largest public school district in the state of Iowa.
Can you imagine that? So again he was told, hey,

(23:25):
you should give us more information about a marriage to
US citizen. He had no more information. He did not
give more information. Also, Roberts was ordered to be removed
for the country as I mentioned in May of twenty
twenty four, and then an immigration judge denied the reopening
of his case in April of this year. The document

(23:45):
shows an immigration lawyer from Texas represented him at least
his motion to reopen the proceedings had filed to withdraw
as Roberts attorney in January of this year, providing an
unpaid legal bill in the amount of eleven seven hundred
and ninety dollars. I need to remind you Ian Roberts

(24:06):
was making almost three hundred thousand dollars a year from
public funds as the superintendent of the Des Moines Public
School District. He owed nearly twelve thousand dollars to a
previous attorney named Jackie Gonzalez, and Jackie Gonzalez clarified to
authorities that her letter to Roberts, it was her letter.

(24:28):
Remember that his new attorney, Alfredo Parish in Iowa, says, look,
she said that he was good in March of this year.
He's like he had no idea that he wasn't good.
She said he was good. Well, she filed to withdraw
as his attorney in January, said that she hadn't got paid.

(24:49):
He's down twelve thousand dollars almost well. She clarified to
authorities that her March letter to Robber saying his place
was closed did not mean it was resolved that it
was closed. In her office. She it was like, I'm
done with you.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Now again.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's a bit misleading, but the words in English said,
I am pleased to report that your case has reached
a successful conclusion.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Now again.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
That could be confusing without context.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Now again.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
He was arrested and detained by ICE the morning of
September twenty sixth Ice agents were performing surveillance at his home.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
In Des Moines, and.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
They were aware he was illegally and unlawfully president of
the United States. This was basically a stake out to
try to get him. They saw a jeep Cherokee leave
the residents, driven by a man consistent with the appearance
of Ian Roberts, and head at a high rate of
speed north on a nearby street. Ice previously stated that
particular vehicle that jeep Cherokee was provided by the Des

(25:50):
Moines Public School District. The jeep turned into a trailer park.
After ICE agents approached, the vehicle drove away. It was
then found abandoned in another area. ICE, assisted by a
canine unit with the Iowa State Patrol, performed a search
of the area. He was found two hundred yards away
where he had abandoned the vehicle and was then arrested.

(26:13):
An ICE agent remained with the jeep until a supervisory
public safety specialist with Des Moines Public Schools arrived to
take possession of the vehicle somebody who was in possession.
They arrived, they opened the door. They found a nine
millimeter glock handgun wrapped in a towel under the driver's seat.
I don't want to read too much into the placement
of that, because that is not unlike maybe how people

(26:35):
are carrying a firearm. Not to say that's the right
way to do it, but I know people who carry
guns in different places of their vehicle and have it lawfully.
Obviously this guy doesn't have it lawfully. His passport from
Guyana was found in a wallet next to the handgun
under his seat. The passport was renewed in April of
twenty twenty four, right around the same time that he

(26:57):
was about to be ordered to leave the country. It
a fish expires. In April of twenty twenty nine, a
weapons trace by the authorities of ATF revealed the weapon
was purchased in twenty nineteen at a licensed store in
North Little Rock, Arkansas. The person who bought it was

(27:17):
Lenisha Roberts, and she is believed to be his spouse.
According to law enforcement databases, it's the first time we've
heard of Leanisha Roberts, being first of all, her existence
and second of all the fact that she is his wife.
They also that day on Friday last week, executed a

(27:38):
search warrant at his house. They said three additional guns
were found in the home, another nine millimeter handgun, a
two seventy caliber bolt action rifle, and a twenty gate shotgun.
Two firearm declaration tags issued by Southwest Airlines also were
in his home. The first was using an Eerie, Pennsylvania

(27:58):
address from twenty five, twenty two, and it was attached
to a pistol case that would have been while he
was working the Mill Creek Township School District because they're superintendent.
The second declaration tag used his des Moin address with
a travel date for January of twenty twenty four and
was found in a gun case with the bolt action rifle.

(28:21):
It's getting juicy here and juicy here, ladies and gentlemen,
we'll learning more about this guy. The complaint also says
documents from the DOJ's Executive Office for Immigration Review in
the Dallas Immigration Court were found under a floor mat
of the back of a Ford Mustang in his garage.
That's where those immigrations, those pesky immigration papers were, and
they concluded his twenty twenty four order of removal from

(28:44):
the United States. He had them and then he put
them under a floor mat in the back of his
Ford Mustang, which he had in his garage. Enough money
to buy a Ford Mustang, not enough money to give
to his poor immigration attorney for whatever it's worth anyway.
The document also says that they found copies of his passport,

(29:07):
his previous passport which had been expired, and expired employment
authorization card which expired in twenty nineteen. And the document
says the residents appear to be occupied by a single
individual and no female clothing was located during the search,
so Leanisha. Roberts might have bought the gun in North
Little Rock, Arkansas that he had in his possession, but

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we don't know where Lenisha Roberts is or what she's
up to. Finally, according to an examination, all four of
the firearms in his possession had been manufactured outside of
Iowa and necessarily crossed the state line before he had
possessed them, so they were brought to him from someone else. Now,
this whole thing is twenty pages long. There's a lot

(29:52):
in here, but additional details on and it's really the
weapons charges what the federal government is getting involved with here.
In legally, Ailand possessed a weapons charge, but it's getting
juiced here by the hour, Ladies and gentlemen, this whole thing.
Idris Elbuck, get online one. We need you for this
movie we're about to make. Anyway, we were talking about
the Ian Roberts situation, and I'm sure by the time

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we get here tomorrow there's gonna be something else that comes.
Because tonight wanted everybody to know and everybody to remember
that tonight there was going to be this really crazy
I mean, this has to be a really stupid thing
to do. But his lawyers, his legal team is going
to have like a like a town hall style event

(30:37):
at a church in des Moines, the legal team of
this guy, who's now all of a sudden is in
custody of the Department of Justice on weapons charges because
he's an illegal alien possessing four firearms. And we're getting
more details about his immigration status and what he did
or didn't do to be able to work here, and

(30:58):
then all the lies that he told and the acknowledgment
of said lies by the Des Moines Public School Board,
who now all of a sudden says, hey, but don't forget,
we're also a victim, which is crazy to me. You're
in the same breath you're admitting that you have. You
let this guy lie on his resume, didn't penalize him
for it, and still hired him just because he liked

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him as a person. And now you're having to eat
all this and I you know, if you didn't listen earlier,
Mill Creek Township, his former school district, they are planning
to sue him. They want to sue the people who
brought him to them sue. They want to sue the
consulting firm like they're trying to They're going to try
to sue everybody, so they're going to aggressively, like look

(31:44):
at litigation for not only him, but anybody who brought
him to them. This is after the fact that the
mon public schools like, oh no, we love this guy,
We're really sad ice is bad, and then five days
later like, oh no, he tricked us too. We're a victim,
you know what I mean? What are we doing here?
What are we doing here? So that's the thing with him,

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you know, it's just like, well, see what a stupid
thing to do for his lawyer team. Of all the
information as it's coming out today, You're gonna have a
meeting tonight, and certainly there's gonna be people that are
going to be there in the media. So if they
go through with this, which I'm going to assume they're lawyers,
they're gonna do it. The only people that would tell

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them not to do it are other lawyers and Alfredo
Perish for whatever it's worth. He loves the cameras. This
is a guy who loves to get interviewed. He loves
taking on civil right cases. This is like the Jesse
Jackson's Al Sharpton types. A guy who just loves, you know,
civil rights minorities. But this is a case you are
not gonna win, based on the information and the evidence

(32:46):
that we have against this guy. And you can't say
that he was ignorant to it because he had all
the paperwork. We know we had the paperwork. They found
the paperwork in his car. He knew he was ordered
to be removed from this country. He had applied for
permanent status multiple times and was denied for whatever reason.
And he knew better than to register to vote in Maryland,
and he knew better than to have firearms as an

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illegal alien. It is an insane story. Holy cow. We
still need to finish out figuring out like who's gonna
play all the roles in the movie, like Alfredo Parish.
You know, Jury's still out a bit. I think on
exactly what the situation is with him, because I was thinking, like,

(33:29):
who would you get?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Is that like the Denzel character?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
But I don't think he's gonna be in it enough,
like Idris elba is Ian Roberts, And we had somebody
email on and say, Jody Foster could be Jackie Norris,
who's the school board president who.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Also happens to be running for senate.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I think through her eyes, we could make the entire
movie and that could be your big a list star
that kind of sells the movie. I just don't know
who that person is.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
I think the story that has written and if we
had a script, it would be easier because it depends
on how you would showcase the story and for the movie.
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, I'm looking here, like Amy Adams, is she big enough?
Jessica Chastain, Like if this was ten years ago, Jessica
Chastain would be in the mix, but it would have
to be Jessica Alba. Oh Anne Hathaway? And half would

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Anne Hathaway be Jackie Norris?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Could you could you pull off the blonde the dirty
blonde sort of hair look within Hathaway or would.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
You just a we start?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, we would just like we would just reconfigure what
she looks like. I mean they they Steve Carell was
able to be the crazy wrestling guy in Fox Catcher,
which by the way, really crazy real life story that
was made into the documentary and the movie, Like this
is going to be Anne Hathaway. I think, is she
like she's got to be a little bit unhinged. Does

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Anne Hathaway sell when she's not going to have like
sex appeal? Because this is not a sex appeal role.
There's not gonna be any sex appeal to this.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
No, it's gonna be a dress, shirt and blazer, you know,
sitting behind a microphone in a podium.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, maybe maybe not.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
I don't know, Reese Witherspoon, I mean your name in
a list for sure. I think anything's just like it's like,
doesn't are they gonna sell it? Rachel McAdams, Now we're
talking Rachel McAdams. Now we're talking Rachel McAdams. All right,
Rachel McAdams is Jackie Norris Andris Elba as Ian Roberts,

(35:33):
and then we can fill the rest of this out.
We just need kind of a like Alfred of Parish.
We'll see how big of a role he ends up
playing in this. It may not be very much. Just
like he's gonna do this town hall, which is I
would imagine pretty ill advised.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
I don't know what benefit outweighs the risk to this.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
You know, out of all my whole thing on it
is like, why would you even bother doing this? The
information is already insanely stacked against you. You're gonna just
basically open the doors for anybody in the community. To
come here and throw tomatoes at you. Like that's like,
isn't that what's gonna happen? Like, what are we talking
about here?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Maybe they got a ace up to sleeve.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I mean, with the ace up to sleeve, you're gonna
say when you're in court, not when you're you know,
welcoming the community to a hastily organized town hall at
a church in the middle of town. The guy's in
the custody of the DJ now, like he's not even here.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I'm just trying to wrap my head around it.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I mean, it's a crazy it's a crazy story.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
And the reason I keep talking about it is I
am quite genuinely bamboozled the fact that this is a
real story. It's also quite funny.