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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got sprayed with a ton of grease, like probably
decades old grease, decades old yeap, smells bad, taste bad.
I feel like I got some of my mouth and
when I see a doctor for that, might I might
that might be the end for me.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's nice knowing you. Man, what a way to go
microphone grease. Hmm, it's not the best epitaph, you know,
could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah? I feel like I'd be one of those guys
that'd be like, please don't tell anybody how this happened.
Or maybe I'd become like the face of like decades
old grease, just like, well, you know what, Be careful, right,
be careful. December tenth, Decades Old Grease Awareness Day. Need
I need those cleenicxes again. It's all over me, dude,
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like it was on my face. Yeah, it's all over here.
It looked like a car drove by and splashed you.
Splashed you with a bunch of decades old grease. Not great.
I can't say that this is great. Jim Roe's gonna
show up to if I don't clean this up properly,
It's gonna be like, what the heck happened over here?
M I don't know. All right, ketch, thanks, that was
(01:11):
a good throw. You tricked me, acted like you're gonna
go high, and then he went right in the chest. Yeah. Sorry, everybody,
I'm a loser. Way you say that, well, it's just
I mean, like its completely messed me up, Like I
don't like I have like what have you? What's the
(01:33):
most embarrassing thing you've been sprayed for? Like, like, what's
the most embarrassing thing that you've gotten all over your face?
Be careful? Now? What are you insinuating? I didn't. I
didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. I just said
be careful. I obviously wasn't when I got sprayed with
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all this stuff ten minutes ago. I can't think of anything.
I mean, you didn't get like you didn't accidentally Like, okay,
So here's the thing that happened to me when I
was a little kid. My family. I'm sorry, mom and dad,
if you're listening, we put a ton of stuff on
the kitchen table. We had a kitchen table and we
were a dining room table. We had a dining room table,
but instead of actually eating on it, what we did
(02:17):
was we just, uh my parents would just pile all
like stuff on there. You couldn't actually use the table
for anything. It just piled up with a bunch of
stuff like storage. Right. Well, guess what happened. I would
we had this little mat that we would lay on
the floor, and I just like eat watch cartoons in
the morning before school, and I'd eat like cereal or whatever.
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And I had a dog that sometimes you get kind
of hyper in the mornings, and he sprinted around and
like stepped in my bowl and then the bowl like
whipped up and just like sprayed me with all my
cereal and my milk. And I was like in second grade,
and I started crying because you know what else do
you do when you're seven years old and that happens too? Yeah,
(03:01):
So like.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Ah, literally crying over spilt milk.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, but it was just all over my face and
not the floor, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But there's a reason why. That's just saying it's a
common thing to cry about.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, what's you shouldn't cry about anything? To be honest
with you, why not not anything? You should be crying
about a lot of stuff. But I mean, like spilling milk,
it shouldn't be that big of a deal. But trust me,
I'm not a great morning person as it is, even
at seven years old. And I was sitting there trying
to wake up, and I was eating my wheaties, and
my dog in the middle of me eating my wheaties
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stepped in my bowl and sprayed all of my like
it just popped up, and just like all of the
milk was on me all of a sudden, and all
the cereal was on me all of a sudden. In
a room in the morning, I was watching Rugrats and
everything it blew up my morning. Not cool, that's tough.
This tastes worse though, I'll be honest with you. We're
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talking about the news. Sorry about that, and uh, we're
looking at all of the new details that we're learning
about with Luigi Mangione and took a bus to New York.
He paid cash. He avoided air travel, which makes sense, right.
You can't be getting on airplanes without being fully detected.
(04:18):
You know, he was wearing a mask and everything. You
can get away with that pretty much all the time,
unless you're going to an airport or like a stadium
for a game, right, I mean, what's more secure than
those places? If he wanted to really get away, he
could have. He could have. On top of that, he
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arrived at a hostel, and that was on November the
twenty fourth. He was there ten days before the actual killing.
He wore a mask every single time he went out.
Are you buying the the COVID excuse? Of course not.
That's ridiculous, especially since they caught him with it lowered
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when he was going into the Starbucks or when he
was at the hostile the surveillance of the hostel, they
asked him to lower his face mask, and then he
smiled at the hostile employee and they flirted. Do you
think she remembers him? Probably right. Do you think they'll
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become pen pals? No?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
No, no, no, what if it's a prison break situation?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Wait no, now, actually though, actually though he's super high profile. Now,
it's a chick that's working at a hostel in New York.
She's probably a little kooky already.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It's a woman who works at a hostel in New
York and she's just living her best life.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Who's how do you know that? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm just I'm trying to clean up your language. You know,
somebody comes after you, come after me.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I had a guy complaining to me saying it was
a stupid comment that I said it was going to
be unlikely for them to catch him after they didn't
have anything after forty eight hours. Sorry, it happens all
the time, guys, Get away. No one's stupid. I say
stupid stuff all the time intentionally, Like I say stupid
stuff on accident A bunch of the time. I said
stupid stuff on an hourly basis at least, So what
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sue me? Maybe one person has been perfect batting a
thousand at whatever job they have. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
it's ridiculous. I think it wouldeel like I'm getting dizzy
just sitting here. Is it the grease? I don't know.
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I don't know. Maybe I'm like you may be I
don't know, or maybe I'm just maybe I need to
maybe I need to hydrate more. I don't know. Should
we hop on web MD? I don't know. My entire
my entire hour got screwed up when that happened to me.
I have to rally. I have to rally. If you
have some thoughts on old man Jony here, please feel
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Speaker 2 (07:25):
You were leaning the microphone over to pull it closer,
which is not unusual. I do it all the time,
and it just popped off of the pole and with
it you got splattered. It was a splatter scattershot that
was like diagonally across your face and shirt. I looked
over and I couldn't believe it. I don't think you
realized how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I could. I can't see myself in here. There's no mirrors.
We're radio guys. You think you think Sattlemeyer and Jim
Rose could do a good radio show if they were
looking at themselves the entire time. Wouldn't that be an
interesting experiment? Oh yeah, we should try that sometimes. Do
you ever?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Do you know when you do those zoom calls, you
just end up looking at yourself the whole time. I can't,
mostly because they do them on my phone and it's
such a little square. I just look. I just can't
believe that's me. I'm like, that's what people are seeing
all this time. No wonder you know, well now that
you shaved, I mean, see you're harping on that.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Actually, I think right here, this is this is what
works for me. Just a little bit of gravel on
the road, you know, same, just a little What do
you think for me?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
It's good. It's a good luck five o'clock at five o'clock,
maybe even five thirty. You know, i'd call it that.
They that's a little more five o'clock. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't like taking care of it. That's my problem anyway.
Plenty of stuff in the news four two, five, five,
eight eleven tens pun number if you want to call us,
you want to talk about anything that's going on. I
talked about some of the coaching adjustments that were being
(08:40):
made by the corn Huskers, and I'm assuming we'll chat
with Sean Callahan later this week. There's gonna be more
news that kind of comes in the coming days, and
also about potential opt outs and stuff like you talked about.
This week of practice is a pretty good indicator of
like who's going to be doing what. So I think
that's important to be noticing what is notable and whatnot.
(09:05):
But yeah, and of course the extradition to New York
City for the Luigi Mangioni has been the other thing
that we've been paying attention to. And he was very
loud when he went into court, screaming that this is
a you know, injustice or anything. And he went on
an outburst. And they are saying that maybe it was
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a posture to make himself seem innocent or something. I
don't know. I don't know. Is there any way he
didn't do it. There's so many there's a bunch of people. Now.
The whole thing is our people are the defensive attorney,
get a load of this. This just came out in
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the last thirty minutes. Thomas Dickey, the attorney who is
representing Luigi Mangioni in Pennsylvania, and I'm taking this from
Fox News. He se no evidence his client is guilty
of the shooting. Said, I haven't seen any evidence that
(10:07):
says he's the shooter. So I wasn't getting around a
couple of things. If you're going to report something reported accurately.
And remember, and this is not just a small thing,
it's fundamental. The concept of American justice is a presumption
of innocence and until you're proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
I've seen zero evidence at this point, and so I'm
not even aware of what any charges are. Of course,
(10:33):
we're just at the beginning of this. Now. He's been
charged with one count of forging a document, criminally possessing
a firearm. He's charged in New York with a second
degree murder, which, of course we'll find out about the extradition.
That could take up to a month. Any chance this
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guy didn't do it, Matt, let's go ahead and lay
it down. Sure, there's a chance, but things he has everything,
They had a manifesto he had like what we what
are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like there's always going to be that guy. But it's
the same guy who doesn't believe in anything, and we
just nod our heads until they stopped talking. But I
think that there's a lot of reasons to think that
there's just a whole lot of evidence stacking up at
this point. I mean, what was that CIA operation that
people talk about from the sixties and seventies, whatever that
was called. They can't think of the name of it
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at this point. It would have to be one of
those situations, you know, like, I don't know, I don't
know how it is. But again I'm not But in
breaking news, lawyer defends client, right, like, of course that's
what lawyer is going to say.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Sure, I just don't like my insult my intelligence to
be insulted. It's all, Oh, for sure, I say stupid
stuff all the time. It doesn't mean I want you
to tell me I'm stupid. Well, right, I think that's
a tough job to do walk in there and say
stuff like that. It takes a certain brand of person.
We talked about Steven Avery and the making a murderer thing, right,
(12:03):
I mean we act like all these people are bad
people because we just don't get how they can possibly
defend somebody who does something. I don't know, man, I
don't know. Yeah. So he's fighting extradition to New York.
Alvin Bragg, of course, yet another situation for him to
be on television. He says he'll vow to get Mangni
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to New York City to face justice as quickly as possible.
It could take thirty days to get that, well, Mangoni
shouted by the way on his way in. People have
tried to dissect the video and says he says something
like it's completely out of touch and an insult to
the intelligence of the American people, and it's lived experience.
I don't know what that means. But the officers kind
of pushed him and ushered him in there, and I
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don't know. Also, Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenney said Mangioni
sustained whatever back injury last year that he needed a
surgery for. On July fourth, twenty twenty three, he said
he posted an x round of social media. Some of
the writings that he had was discussing the difficulty of
sustaining that injury, and so they're looking into whether or
not the insurance industry either denied a claim from him
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or didn't help him out to the fullest extent. No
tips named him specifically, and United Healthcare was mentioned in
man Joni's manifesto. Matt, if he's got a manifesto, how
did he not do this? Unless the angle is that
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he hired somebody else to do this, another person that
was a look alike did it, and then he just
collected all the evidence and was carrying it around, including
ten thousand dollars in money. What are we even talking
about here. He had a manifesto he mentioned he mentioned
United Healthcare specifically, he had a back injury that they're
trying to figure out how it's connected to him hating
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the healthcare industry. But he didn't do anything. We have
no evidence. Who's saying this is attorney saying we have
no evident of course.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And breaking news.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Attorney defense client. Come on, man, of course that's what's
attorneys saying.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Come on, attorneys, KJP there it's the same stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Man, Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know. Live for a living.
Can you imagine that? What an awful existence? I don't
know if it's a lie as much as just leaving
certain things out to be as honest as you possibly
can without admitting guilt. You know, you go to these things,
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they're you know, debate, like like how you can do debate,
Like how debate works, like the like the competition debates
that you do in like school, like the debate teams. Yeah,
you know how that works. It's it's literally you get
you have to be able to argue both sides, and
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it's whoever does a better job arguing does get scored better?
You know what that you know what that does to
the person. If you get really good at that, give
me anything and I can argue for it. Give me,
give me anything, I can argue for it properly and
probably win. These guys enjoy the challenge. I think a
defense attorney enjoys the challenge, especially taking on something that
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seems to be super obvious. He's going to be like,
how can I describe this in a way to get
him as little of a sitness as possible? And you
know how much he's got probably getting paid, probably pretty
solid money. I would guess. You gotta go through a
lot of school, but still, eh, pretty interesting. We'll give
you as much. Uh, We'll give you as much information
as we can as we learn more about it. You
(15:38):
can email me Emory i kfab dot com. We'll get
some of those coming up next on news radio eleven
ten kfab Emory. Who which is the radio station I
used to work for? Who? Yeah? That's the one? No?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Who?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
No, that's the one. Who's on first? Hey, Costello, take
it easy, I'm uh no, it's ah my, my my.
I do a morning show on that station too, So
it's not like I've just like reiterated something from years past.
It's my bad as soon's ready eleven ten kfa B.
Thanks for listening to our show today here in Omaha.
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We are taking phone calls four two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten as we learn about your thoughts and trying
to figure out what the heck is going on. The
more we learn about this LUIGIMNNGEONI character. It's a true
crime case developing right before our eyes, and we get
to chat about it every single day. It's nice, it's
kind of it's kind of fun. It's not a fun
thing for you know, the people directly involved, but for us,
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you know, it's pretty interesting. Mark's on the phone line, Mark,
what are you thinking about on this?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well, I think it would be shocking if the guy,
if the guy had the same gun that was used.
But if you're going to print a gun, why wouldn't
you have made two or three of them? And then
the other thing is so the shellcase seems have to
match the slide, that's how that works. And then looking
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at the original video, he had gloves on, so chances
are he loaded the gun with gloves on, so he
doesn't have his singerprints in DNA on the actual shellwcase
scenes or bullets, and you know, it would be. Although
every criminal makes a mistake, I mean unless you know,
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he threw away whatever phony had, but if he had
a second phone, that would be a different story. But otherwise,
you know, going to Starbucks and ordering a coffee is
not a crime. So so the fact that the attorney
in Pennsylvania says, I haven't seen any evidence, well he
probably hasn't at this point because they just ragned him
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on the other stuff. They didn't really rain him. They
rained him on the fake ID thing, yeah document, yeah, Yeah,
they didn't ring him on the murder.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And yeah, he's got to get to New York. Yeah, yeah,
they charged him in New York, but he can't face
those charges until they get him back there.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
So in New York they charged him with secondary murder,
which it doesn't have the same amount of evidence requirement,
so they might be a little nervous that, hey, this guy,
you know, when they test that gun, that's going to
be you know, a big deal.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
So what about the manifesto? Mark? What about the manifesto
and the money and then.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Having having having literature is freedom of speech and writing
things is freedom of speech.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
That's you know, it's just yeah, yeah, but you can
you can use that to connect this specific guide to
this crime.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Not really even though I mean, I mean, I'm not
saying the guy is guilty or innocent. I mean, sure
seems like he did it. Yeah, But but there's you know,
there's a whole lot of you know that the video
will make a difference, which I don't think we've seen
all of it, right, but the video will make a difference.
And then but you know, if you're if you're in granted,
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this guy has the advantage of probably having high paid attorneys,
of course, and so they're gonna say, unless that gun
directly links him to that shooting, uh, they're gonna have
they got They do have an uphill battle because because
going to Starbucks or wherever he went it is not illegal,
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and getting into cabs not illegal. But if they have
a phone that they trace right to that location, that
would be bad. But it seems like for the amount
of effort he put into being inconspicuous, you know, I'm
and granted, it's kind of like all defense makes, every
defense makes a mistake, you know, So maybe he made
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a mistake and had you know it was carrying the
same gun.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, Well, Mark, I guess, yes, it'll.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Be interesting how it plays out.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Right, And he's pleaded not guilty to this stuff, but
him having the fake ideas, including one that they know
he used because he's on video at the hostel. They
know he used one of those, and we're able to
match that to the name he used to check into
the hostel, and the back injury and the manifesto, plus
having what we You're right, we don't know if that's
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exactly the same gun, because theoretically, if you could print
one of those, you could print a hundred of them,
you know, uh, you know, like, But but all of
those are clues that I think beyond an unreasonable doubt
that this guy is, Like all of the signs point
to him having a motive, him having having the the
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the capabilities and the equipment to do this. They matched
up his fake ideas that he was actively using in
the area that this all happened. He I would need
to know a little more about the clothing situation and
all that jazz.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
But yeah, because it does seem like even the mask
color is different between different videos. That could be the video.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Too, right, and he and he did have multiple masks
and they're using the whole he's afraid of COVID thing.
But certainly you would think that if he did this crime,
this was done to conceal him his face even further.
So what do you what do you think, Mark? I
know that, like you said, to get him on everything
like first degree murder and all this other stuff, like,
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they're going to need to have everything lined up for
the jury to be able to figure this out. But
do you think the sentiment of the public is going
to have a factor as well to how this whole
thing ends up getting tried.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
No, I don't at the end of the day, because
most people, even if they don't like their insurance, they
still think murder is horrible and not not the answer. Okay,
most people you know, and you know, nobody know you're
you know, you are correct that probably nobody thinks our
health insurance system is great, you know, the way the
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whole process works, But that has nothing, you know, probably
no bearing on this how the how the population feels.
But at the end of the day, you know, the
evidence will bear out. You know, I'm sure if they
have the correg gun, they're going to announce they you know,
they have to let the defense attorney know they have
the correg gun. You know, they have to present their
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evidence of what evidence they have coming up, and they
have to disclose all that to the defense attorney, and
he's right, they haven't disclosed in anything, right.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Well, I just wonder how the manifesto factors into this,
plus the fact that this guy would have had a
motive and he named United Healthcare specifically in the manifesto,
because even though, like you said, that could be circumstantial
in a lot of ways, and anybody could write anything
down and not actually have done anything about it. But
I don't know, it just seems like I'm with you
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that they may have an uphill battle on like a
first degree murder charge. But there's too much smoke around
this guy that makes me feel like, oh, definitely, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
But bo, when I saw the video at the very first,
I told a friend of mine, I said, man, that
knows what's fake on there? You know what I mean?
It just looks like, you know, but when they arrested him,
it didn't let's take So I don't know. I you know,
definitely they probably have the right guy, whether or not
they have condict him.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
On sure as strong Italian jeans or coming out on
that nose probably is what I'm guessing. You know, you
can't have it. You can't be named Luigi Mangioni and
not have a prominent nose. That's all I'm saying. Thanks, Mark,
appreciate the call. That's that's That's just a fact, and
I'm not I'm not here to say that that's bad
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or good. I'm just saying that, you know, Italian men
are known for having prominent facial features. Can I make
a bold prediction? Yes, this won't be his only lawyer?
Well we have both at the same time, or really
fire this guy. I think that guy's gonna quit. Oh,
he'll quit. What makes you say that he.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Was yelling stuff while he's being let in? And then
did they have the lawyer was telling him to pipe down? Yeah,
I don't think that it's Luigi's you know, plan to
pipe down. This wouldn't This is a he was a
sign to this case. Oh, Dicky the lawyer was Dickie. Yeah, yeah,
so it's a Pennsylvania defense attorney. Okay, Well, well, the
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the Mangoni, the Mangioni family probably has an ace up
their sleeve. They're well to do if if they want
to help protect this guy or I mean, he's six
twenty six years old. He could hire whoever the heck
he wants if he's got the cash for it. So
and why wouldn't he? I mean, he seems to be
well to do. What a way to throw a life
down The train man gosh back injury on July fourth,
twenty twenty three, and everything just kind of spiraled from
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there for this guy to this point. It's just really
sad at the end of the day. It's more sad
than anything. But it's absolutely intriguing and we're gonna we're
gonna follow it every step of the way because I
think many people are going to We'll wrap up the
show next on news radio eleven to ten KFAB. He
was told he couldn't return the car. What would make
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you want to return a car you just bought earlier that.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Day it was having problems? What you didn't take it
for a test drive? It's been hours? Well, sometimes, what
are you gonna show up a little bit later? What
are you gonna discover on this vehicle that you wouldn't
have discovered by just driving it around a little bit?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Can I sell you something like this happened to me?
I didn't resort to the techniques.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But yeah, driving it through the front door of the
dealer I was going for.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
At this time, I was commuting about an hour to work,
and I needed a new commuter car because my old
I love that old Toyota Tacoma, but it just wasn't
cutting the mustard and didn't get great gas mileage anymore.
Got myself a commuter car, a little old Mitsubishi, and
this is perfect, perfect, perfect, everything's great. Yeah, take that
thing for a chest drive, yep, test it all out.
This is my bad because I didn't check for this
(25:32):
one thing. Get on the road, look to set the
cruise that doesn't have it. This car didn't have cruise control.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But you didn't know that until after you bought it.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It was like a twenty eighteen car. How did it
not have cruise control? What the heck is going on?
But yeah, I didn't have cruise control, and so I'm like, yeah,
now I have to commute with this thing an hour
back and forth without cruise control. So what did you do?
I drove it through the I drove through the window
of the lot. No, I didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I went home and I seemed privately like a normal person.
But you didn't. You didn't return the car. I went
home and I was sad inside, but you didn't. You
kept the car, but I kept the car. Yeah, what
else was I gonna do? I don't know, try to
return it? No, I don't know. I already signed all
the paperwork. Yeah, they said dealership would let him drive
the car the dealership. He told the dealership he would
drive the car through the front door if they didn't
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let him return it, and they said, well, the sale
is as is. I don't know how permanent these things
are when they used to get the title deed, you know,
I guess they have to technically buy it back from
you based on paperwork, wouldn't they. It's not like a
receipt that you can just like. Yeah, they probably buy
it back for a lower price. Yeah. Well, he said
he did what he said he was going to do,
and he drove it right through the front door of
(26:36):
the dealership and he was arrested on charges of felony,
criminal mischief, and reckless endangerment, which makes sense he drove
it into the building. Yeah, there's a video. Colin Rugg
shared it on x go find it. He says bad
words don't watch it around children anyway. Five point fifty five.
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We'll be back for your hump Day show tomorrow. I'm
sure there's going to be more man news by the
time we get here, and just enjoy yourself, take care
of each other. We'll be back at two tomorrow afternoon
on news Radio eleven ten KFAB
I got sprayed with a ton of grease, like probably
decades old grease, decades old yeap, smells bad, taste bad.
I feel like I got some of my mouth and
when I see a doctor for that, might I might
that might be the end for me.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's nice knowing you. Man, what a way to go
microphone grease. Hmm, it's not the best epitaph, you know,
could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah? I feel like I'd be one of those guys
that'd be like, please don't tell anybody how this happened.
Or maybe I'd become like the face of like decades
old grease, just like, well, you know what, Be careful, right,
be careful. December tenth, Decades Old Grease Awareness Day. Need
I need those cleenicxes again. It's all over me, dude,
(00:46):
like it was on my face. Yeah, it's all over here.
It looked like a car drove by and splashed you.
Splashed you with a bunch of decades old grease. Not great.
I can't say that this is great. Jim Roe's gonna
show up to if I don't clean this up properly,
It's gonna be like, what the heck happened over here?
M I don't know. All right, ketch, thanks, that was
(01:11):
a good throw. You tricked me, acted like you're gonna
go high, and then he went right in the chest. Yeah. Sorry, everybody,
I'm a loser. Way you say that, well, it's just
I mean, like its completely messed me up, Like I
don't like I have like what have you? What's the
(01:33):
most embarrassing thing you've been sprayed for? Like, like, what's
the most embarrassing thing that you've gotten all over your face?
Be careful? Now? What are you insinuating? I didn't. I
didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. I just said
be careful. I obviously wasn't when I got sprayed with
(01:56):
all this stuff ten minutes ago. I can't think of anything.
I mean, you didn't get like you didn't accidentally Like, okay,
So here's the thing that happened to me when I
was a little kid. My family. I'm sorry, mom and dad,
if you're listening, we put a ton of stuff on
the kitchen table. We had a kitchen table and we
were a dining room table. We had a dining room table,
but instead of actually eating on it, what we did
(02:17):
was we just, uh my parents would just pile all
like stuff on there. You couldn't actually use the table
for anything. It just piled up with a bunch of
stuff like storage. Right. Well, guess what happened. I would
we had this little mat that we would lay on
the floor, and I just like eat watch cartoons in
the morning before school, and I'd eat like cereal or whatever.
(02:38):
And I had a dog that sometimes you get kind
of hyper in the mornings, and he sprinted around and
like stepped in my bowl and then the bowl like
whipped up and just like sprayed me with all my
cereal and my milk. And I was like in second grade,
and I started crying because you know what else do
you do when you're seven years old and that happens too? Yeah,
(03:01):
So like.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Ah, literally crying over spilt milk.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, but it was just all over my face and
not the floor, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But there's a reason why. That's just saying it's a
common thing to cry about.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, what's you shouldn't cry about anything? To be honest
with you, why not not anything? You should be crying
about a lot of stuff. But I mean, like spilling milk,
it shouldn't be that big of a deal. But trust me,
I'm not a great morning person as it is, even
at seven years old. And I was sitting there trying
to wake up, and I was eating my wheaties, and
my dog in the middle of me eating my wheaties
(03:34):
stepped in my bowl and sprayed all of my like
it just popped up, and just like all of the
milk was on me all of a sudden, and all
the cereal was on me all of a sudden. In
a room in the morning, I was watching Rugrats and
everything it blew up my morning. Not cool, that's tough.
This tastes worse though, I'll be honest with you. We're
(03:55):
talking about the news. Sorry about that, and uh, we're
looking at all of the new details that we're learning
about with Luigi Mangione and took a bus to New York.
He paid cash. He avoided air travel, which makes sense, right.
You can't be getting on airplanes without being fully detected.
(04:18):
You know, he was wearing a mask and everything. You
can get away with that pretty much all the time,
unless you're going to an airport or like a stadium
for a game, right, I mean, what's more secure than
those places? If he wanted to really get away, he
could have. He could have. On top of that, he
(04:44):
arrived at a hostel, and that was on November the
twenty fourth. He was there ten days before the actual killing.
He wore a mask every single time he went out.
Are you buying the the COVID excuse? Of course not.
That's ridiculous, especially since they caught him with it lowered
(05:07):
when he was going into the Starbucks or when he
was at the hostile the surveillance of the hostel, they
asked him to lower his face mask, and then he
smiled at the hostile employee and they flirted. Do you
think she remembers him? Probably right. Do you think they'll
(05:29):
become pen pals? No?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
No, no, no, what if it's a prison break situation?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Wait no, now, actually though, actually though he's super high profile. Now,
it's a chick that's working at a hostel in New York.
She's probably a little kooky already.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It's a woman who works at a hostel in New
York and she's just living her best life.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Who's how do you know that? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm just I'm trying to clean up your language. You know,
somebody comes after you, come after me.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I had a guy complaining to me saying it was
a stupid comment that I said it was going to
be unlikely for them to catch him after they didn't
have anything after forty eight hours. Sorry, it happens all
the time, guys, Get away. No one's stupid. I say
stupid stuff all the time intentionally, Like I say stupid
stuff on accident A bunch of the time. I said
stupid stuff on an hourly basis at least, So what
(06:31):
sue me? Maybe one person has been perfect batting a
thousand at whatever job they have. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
it's ridiculous. I think it wouldeel like I'm getting dizzy
just sitting here. Is it the grease? I don't know.
(06:51):
I don't know. Maybe I'm like you may be I
don't know, or maybe I'm just maybe I need to
maybe I need to hydrate more. I don't know. Should
we hop on web MD? I don't know. My entire
my entire hour got screwed up when that happened to me.
I have to rally. I have to rally. If you
have some thoughts on old man Jony here, please feel
free to get Ahold of Us four row two five
(07:11):
to five A eleven ten for our drivetime audience. Furrow
two five five eight, eleven ten. You got plenty more
of that where that came from? On news radio eleven
ten KFAB. Emery Songer on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You were leaning the microphone over to pull it closer,
which is not unusual. I do it all the time,
and it just popped off of the pole and with
it you got splattered. It was a splatter scattershot that
was like diagonally across your face and shirt. I looked
over and I couldn't believe it. I don't think you
realized how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I could. I can't see myself in here. There's no mirrors.
We're radio guys. You think you think Sattlemeyer and Jim
Rose could do a good radio show if they were
looking at themselves the entire time. Wouldn't that be an
interesting experiment? Oh yeah, we should try that sometimes. Do
you ever?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Do you know when you do those zoom calls, you
just end up looking at yourself the whole time. I can't,
mostly because they do them on my phone and it's
such a little square. I just look. I just can't
believe that's me. I'm like, that's what people are seeing
all this time. No wonder you know, well now that
you shaved, I mean, see you're harping on that.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Actually, I think right here, this is this is what
works for me. Just a little bit of gravel on
the road, you know, same, just a little What do
you think for me?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
It's good. It's a good luck five o'clock at five o'clock,
maybe even five thirty. You know, i'd call it that.
They that's a little more five o'clock. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't like taking care of it. That's my problem anyway.
Plenty of stuff in the news four two, five, five,
eight eleven tens pun number if you want to call us,
you want to talk about anything that's going on. I
talked about some of the coaching adjustments that were being
(08:40):
made by the corn Huskers, and I'm assuming we'll chat
with Sean Callahan later this week. There's gonna be more
news that kind of comes in the coming days, and
also about potential opt outs and stuff like you talked about.
This week of practice is a pretty good indicator of
like who's going to be doing what. So I think
that's important to be noticing what is notable and whatnot.
(09:05):
But yeah, and of course the extradition to New York
City for the Luigi Mangioni has been the other thing
that we've been paying attention to. And he was very
loud when he went into court, screaming that this is
a you know, injustice or anything. And he went on
an outburst. And they are saying that maybe it was
(09:26):
a posture to make himself seem innocent or something. I
don't know. I don't know. Is there any way he
didn't do it. There's so many there's a bunch of people. Now.
The whole thing is our people are the defensive attorney,
get a load of this. This just came out in
(09:46):
the last thirty minutes. Thomas Dickey, the attorney who is
representing Luigi Mangioni in Pennsylvania, and I'm taking this from
Fox News. He se no evidence his client is guilty
of the shooting. Said, I haven't seen any evidence that
(10:07):
says he's the shooter. So I wasn't getting around a
couple of things. If you're going to report something reported accurately.
And remember, and this is not just a small thing,
it's fundamental. The concept of American justice is a presumption
of innocence and until you're proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
I've seen zero evidence at this point, and so I'm
not even aware of what any charges are. Of course,
(10:33):
we're just at the beginning of this. Now. He's been
charged with one count of forging a document, criminally possessing
a firearm. He's charged in New York with a second
degree murder, which, of course we'll find out about the extradition.
That could take up to a month. Any chance this
(10:54):
guy didn't do it, Matt, let's go ahead and lay
it down. Sure, there's a chance, but things he has everything,
They had a manifesto he had like what we what
are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like there's always going to be that guy. But it's
the same guy who doesn't believe in anything, and we
just nod our heads until they stopped talking. But I
think that there's a lot of reasons to think that
there's just a whole lot of evidence stacking up at
this point. I mean, what was that CIA operation that
people talk about from the sixties and seventies, whatever that
was called. They can't think of the name of it
(11:30):
at this point. It would have to be one of
those situations, you know, like, I don't know, I don't
know how it is. But again I'm not But in
breaking news, lawyer defends client, right, like, of course that's
what lawyer is going to say.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Sure, I just don't like my insult my intelligence to
be insulted. It's all, Oh, for sure, I say stupid
stuff all the time. It doesn't mean I want you
to tell me I'm stupid. Well, right, I think that's
a tough job to do walk in there and say
stuff like that. It takes a certain brand of person.
We talked about Steven Avery and the making a murderer thing, right,
(12:03):
I mean we act like all these people are bad
people because we just don't get how they can possibly
defend somebody who does something. I don't know, man, I
don't know. Yeah. So he's fighting extradition to New York.
Alvin Bragg, of course, yet another situation for him to
be on television. He says he'll vow to get Mangni
(12:25):
to New York City to face justice as quickly as possible.
It could take thirty days to get that, well, Mangoni
shouted by the way on his way in. People have
tried to dissect the video and says he says something
like it's completely out of touch and an insult to
the intelligence of the American people, and it's lived experience.
I don't know what that means. But the officers kind
of pushed him and ushered him in there, and I
(12:48):
don't know. Also, Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenney said Mangioni
sustained whatever back injury last year that he needed a
surgery for. On July fourth, twenty twenty three, he said
he posted an x round of social media. Some of
the writings that he had was discussing the difficulty of
sustaining that injury, and so they're looking into whether or
not the insurance industry either denied a claim from him
(13:09):
or didn't help him out to the fullest extent. No
tips named him specifically, and United Healthcare was mentioned in
man Joni's manifesto. Matt, if he's got a manifesto, how
did he not do this? Unless the angle is that
(13:31):
he hired somebody else to do this, another person that
was a look alike did it, and then he just
collected all the evidence and was carrying it around, including
ten thousand dollars in money. What are we even talking
about here. He had a manifesto he mentioned he mentioned
United Healthcare specifically, he had a back injury that they're
trying to figure out how it's connected to him hating
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the healthcare industry. But he didn't do anything. We have
no evidence. Who's saying this is attorney saying we have
no evident of course.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And breaking news.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Attorney defense client. Come on, man, of course that's what's
attorneys saying.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Come on, attorneys, KJP there it's the same stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Man, Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know. Live for a living.
Can you imagine that? What an awful existence? I don't
know if it's a lie as much as just leaving
certain things out to be as honest as you possibly
can without admitting guilt. You know, you go to these things,
(14:32):
they're you know, debate, like like how you can do debate,
Like how debate works, like the like the competition debates
that you do in like school, like the debate teams. Yeah,
you know how that works. It's it's literally you get
you have to be able to argue both sides, and
(14:54):
it's whoever does a better job arguing does get scored better?
You know what that you know what that does to
the person. If you get really good at that, give
me anything and I can argue for it. Give me,
give me anything, I can argue for it properly and
probably win. These guys enjoy the challenge. I think a
defense attorney enjoys the challenge, especially taking on something that
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seems to be super obvious. He's going to be like,
how can I describe this in a way to get
him as little of a sitness as possible? And you
know how much he's got probably getting paid, probably pretty
solid money. I would guess. You gotta go through a
lot of school, but still, eh, pretty interesting. We'll give
you as much. Uh, We'll give you as much information
as we can as we learn more about it. You
(15:38):
can email me Emory i kfab dot com. We'll get
some of those coming up next on news radio eleven
ten kfab Emory. Who which is the radio station I
used to work for? Who? Yeah? That's the one? No?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Who?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
No, that's the one. Who's on first? Hey, Costello, take
it easy, I'm uh no, it's ah my, my my.
I do a morning show on that station too, So
it's not like I've just like reiterated something from years past.
It's my bad as soon's ready eleven ten kfa B.
Thanks for listening to our show today here in Omaha.
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We are taking phone calls four two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten as we learn about your thoughts and trying
to figure out what the heck is going on. The
more we learn about this LUIGIMNNGEONI character. It's a true
crime case developing right before our eyes, and we get
to chat about it every single day. It's nice, it's
kind of it's kind of fun. It's not a fun
thing for you know, the people directly involved, but for us,
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you know, it's pretty interesting. Mark's on the phone line, Mark,
what are you thinking about on this?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well, I think it would be shocking if the guy,
if the guy had the same gun that was used.
But if you're going to print a gun, why wouldn't
you have made two or three of them? And then
the other thing is so the shellcase seems have to
match the slide, that's how that works. And then looking
(17:02):
at the original video, he had gloves on, so chances
are he loaded the gun with gloves on, so he
doesn't have his singerprints in DNA on the actual shellwcase
scenes or bullets, and you know, it would be. Although
every criminal makes a mistake, I mean unless you know,
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he threw away whatever phony had, but if he had
a second phone, that would be a different story. But otherwise,
you know, going to Starbucks and ordering a coffee is
not a crime. So so the fact that the attorney
in Pennsylvania says, I haven't seen any evidence, well he
probably hasn't at this point because they just ragned him
(17:42):
on the other stuff. They didn't really rain him. They
rained him on the fake ID thing, yeah document, yeah, Yeah,
they didn't ring him on the murder.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And yeah, he's got to get to New York. Yeah, yeah,
they charged him in New York, but he can't face
those charges until they get him back there.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
So in New York they charged him with secondary murder,
which it doesn't have the same amount of evidence requirement,
so they might be a little nervous that, hey, this guy,
you know, when they test that gun, that's going to
be you know, a big deal.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
So what about the manifesto? Mark? What about the manifesto
and the money and then.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Having having having literature is freedom of speech and writing
things is freedom of speech.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
That's you know, it's just yeah, yeah, but you can
you can use that to connect this specific guide to
this crime.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Not really even though I mean, I mean, I'm not
saying the guy is guilty or innocent. I mean, sure
seems like he did it. Yeah, But but there's you know,
there's a whole lot of you know that the video
will make a difference, which I don't think we've seen
all of it, right, but the video will make a difference.
And then but you know, if you're if you're in granted,
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this guy has the advantage of probably having high paid attorneys,
of course, and so they're gonna say, unless that gun
directly links him to that shooting, uh, they're gonna have
they got They do have an uphill battle because because
going to Starbucks or wherever he went it is not illegal,
(19:20):
and getting into cabs not illegal. But if they have
a phone that they trace right to that location, that
would be bad. But it seems like for the amount
of effort he put into being inconspicuous, you know, I'm
and granted, it's kind of like all defense makes, every
defense makes a mistake, you know, So maybe he made
(19:42):
a mistake and had you know it was carrying the
same gun.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, Well, Mark, I guess, yes, it'll.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Be interesting how it plays out.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Right, And he's pleaded not guilty to this stuff, but
him having the fake ideas, including one that they know
he used because he's on video at the hostel. They
know he used one of those, and we're able to
match that to the name he used to check into
the hostel, and the back injury and the manifesto, plus
having what we You're right, we don't know if that's
(20:15):
exactly the same gun, because theoretically, if you could print
one of those, you could print a hundred of them,
you know, uh, you know, like, But but all of
those are clues that I think beyond an unreasonable doubt
that this guy is, Like all of the signs point
to him having a motive, him having having the the
(20:36):
the capabilities and the equipment to do this. They matched
up his fake ideas that he was actively using in
the area that this all happened. He I would need
to know a little more about the clothing situation and
all that jazz.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
But yeah, because it does seem like even the mask
color is different between different videos. That could be the video.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Too, right, and he and he did have multiple masks
and they're using the whole he's afraid of COVID thing.
But certainly you would think that if he did this crime,
this was done to conceal him his face even further.
So what do you what do you think, Mark? I
know that, like you said, to get him on everything
like first degree murder and all this other stuff, like,
(21:18):
they're going to need to have everything lined up for
the jury to be able to figure this out. But
do you think the sentiment of the public is going
to have a factor as well to how this whole
thing ends up getting tried.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
No, I don't at the end of the day, because
most people, even if they don't like their insurance, they
still think murder is horrible and not not the answer. Okay,
most people you know, and you know, nobody know you're
you know, you are correct that probably nobody thinks our
health insurance system is great, you know, the way the
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whole process works, But that has nothing, you know, probably
no bearing on this how the how the population feels.
But at the end of the day, you know, the
evidence will bear out. You know, I'm sure if they
have the correg gun, they're going to announce they you know,
they have to let the defense attorney know they have
the correg gun. You know, they have to present their
(22:13):
evidence of what evidence they have coming up, and they
have to disclose all that to the defense attorney, and
he's right, they haven't disclosed in anything, right.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Well, I just wonder how the manifesto factors into this,
plus the fact that this guy would have had a
motive and he named United Healthcare specifically in the manifesto,
because even though, like you said, that could be circumstantial
in a lot of ways, and anybody could write anything
down and not actually have done anything about it. But
I don't know, it just seems like I'm with you
(22:43):
that they may have an uphill battle on like a
first degree murder charge. But there's too much smoke around
this guy that makes me feel like, oh, definitely, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
But bo, when I saw the video at the very first,
I told a friend of mine, I said, man, that
knows what's fake on there? You know what I mean?
It just looks like, you know, but when they arrested him,
it didn't let's take So I don't know. I you know,
definitely they probably have the right guy, whether or not
they have condict him.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
On sure as strong Italian jeans or coming out on
that nose probably is what I'm guessing. You know, you
can't have it. You can't be named Luigi Mangioni and
not have a prominent nose. That's all I'm saying. Thanks, Mark,
appreciate the call. That's that's That's just a fact, and
I'm not I'm not here to say that that's bad
(23:29):
or good. I'm just saying that, you know, Italian men
are known for having prominent facial features. Can I make
a bold prediction? Yes, this won't be his only lawyer?
Well we have both at the same time, or really
fire this guy. I think that guy's gonna quit. Oh,
he'll quit. What makes you say that he.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Was yelling stuff while he's being let in? And then
did they have the lawyer was telling him to pipe down? Yeah,
I don't think that it's Luigi's you know, plan to
pipe down. This wouldn't This is a he was a
sign to this case. Oh, Dicky the lawyer was Dickie. Yeah, yeah,
so it's a Pennsylvania defense attorney. Okay, Well, well, the
(24:06):
the Mangoni, the Mangioni family probably has an ace up
their sleeve. They're well to do if if they want
to help protect this guy or I mean, he's six
twenty six years old. He could hire whoever the heck
he wants if he's got the cash for it. So
and why wouldn't he? I mean, he seems to be
well to do. What a way to throw a life
down The train man gosh back injury on July fourth,
twenty twenty three, and everything just kind of spiraled from
(24:28):
there for this guy to this point. It's just really
sad at the end of the day. It's more sad
than anything. But it's absolutely intriguing and we're gonna we're
gonna follow it every step of the way because I
think many people are going to We'll wrap up the
show next on news radio eleven to ten KFAB. He
was told he couldn't return the car. What would make
(24:48):
you want to return a car you just bought earlier that.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Day it was having problems? What you didn't take it
for a test drive? It's been hours? Well, sometimes, what
are you gonna show up a little bit later? What
are you gonna discover on this vehicle that you wouldn't
have discovered by just driving it around a little bit?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Can I sell you something like this happened to me?
I didn't resort to the techniques.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But yeah, driving it through the front door of the
dealer I was going for.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
At this time, I was commuting about an hour to work,
and I needed a new commuter car because my old
I love that old Toyota Tacoma, but it just wasn't
cutting the mustard and didn't get great gas mileage anymore.
Got myself a commuter car, a little old Mitsubishi, and
this is perfect, perfect, perfect, everything's great. Yeah, take that
thing for a chest drive, yep, test it all out.
This is my bad because I didn't check for this
(25:32):
one thing. Get on the road, look to set the
cruise that doesn't have it. This car didn't have cruise control.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But you didn't know that until after you bought it.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It was like a twenty eighteen car. How did it
not have cruise control? What the heck is going on?
But yeah, I didn't have cruise control, and so I'm like, yeah,
now I have to commute with this thing an hour
back and forth without cruise control. So what did you do?
I drove it through the I drove through the window
of the lot. No, I didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I went home and I seemed privately like a normal person.
But you didn't. You didn't return the car. I went
home and I was sad inside, but you didn't. You
kept the car, but I kept the car. Yeah, what
else was I gonna do? I don't know, try to
return it? No, I don't know. I already signed all
the paperwork. Yeah, they said dealership would let him drive
the car the dealership. He told the dealership he would
drive the car through the front door if they didn't
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let him return it, and they said, well, the sale
is as is. I don't know how permanent these things
are when they used to get the title deed, you know,
I guess they have to technically buy it back from
you based on paperwork, wouldn't they. It's not like a
receipt that you can just like. Yeah, they probably buy
it back for a lower price. Yeah. Well, he said
he did what he said he was going to do,
and he drove it right through the front door of
(26:36):
the dealership and he was arrested on charges of felony,
criminal mischief, and reckless endangerment, which makes sense he drove
it into the building. Yeah, there's a video. Colin Rugg
shared it on x go find it. He says bad
words don't watch it around children anyway. Five point fifty five.
(26:56):
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sure there's going to be more man news by the
time we get here, and just enjoy yourself, take care
of each other. We'll be back at two tomorrow afternoon
on news Radio eleven ten KFAB
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