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November 14, 2024 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Back here on news Radio eleven ten kfab Emery Songer
here with you, and we thank you always for listening
to us. And we're talking about the stuff that's going
on in the community, not just in the big news
of the world and in the United States, but also
things that you can enjoy here in Omaha. And one
of those things I got to enjoy last night at
the Orpheum. It's Broadway season. It's finally back, and Funny

(00:21):
Girl is in town. And we're joined by a couple
of people. If you go to this show, you're going
to be very, very familiar with Hannah Shankman, who plays
the lead of Fanny Brice. Thank you so much for
coming in here today.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
And of course you got to have another lead as well,
and that is nick Ardnstein, who's played by Steven Mark Lucas. Steven,
thanks so much for being.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Here as well.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Thanks so much for having us.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
All Right, I got to I gotta be honest with you,
it was a little itchy for Broadway season to come
back here. It's already mid November. It's been six plus
months since the last show that was in town. Wow,
I really enjoy watching these shows, but I'm also not
an aficionado by any means, So I knew nothing about
this show before it started. My wife knows a lot

(01:05):
more about this. I kind of like to go in blind.
So for those Hannah who are unfamiliar with the story
of Fanny Bryce and Funny Girl, kind of give us
a quick synopsis of the basis of this story.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Sure, so it's actually based on a true story. Fanny
Brice was a comedian in the early part of the
twentieth century. She rose to stardom through the Zigfeld Follies,
and the show kind of tracks her rise to stardom
as well as her personal life and her love affair
or love relationship. I should say, with Nick Arnstein, who
was also a real life person, a gambler and a

(01:39):
very handsome fellow.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, you are able to portray him being very handsome
right away, with you know, like the oh wow, what
an attractive man. But he's got to be an attractive
man to pull it off. Oh yeah, and Stephen does that, Stephen?
This story in and of itself, right, this is again
I went in with no knowledge, but this is not
like one that's just been put together. It's not a

(02:02):
show that just has been put together in the last
few years. This is actually kind of a staple for
a lot of people who go and see Broadway shows
over decades.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Right, Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. So it was a huge
hit on Broadway with barbar streis End in the nineteen
sixties when it opened. Obviously the film made her a star,
but it actually hasn't been revived since then, which is
very uncommon for these old Golden Age musicals. Most of
them have been revived over and over and over over
the years, and Funny Girl hadn't been until we revived
it on Broadway in twenty twenty two. So it is

(02:32):
for people who know the movie, or know the show,
or know the music. Some of the music don't run
in my parade and people those songs that a lot
of people know and love, they really most people haven't
seen a first class production of it. So that's what's
so exciting about doing this revival, doing it on Torol
over the country is people get to see this music
that they love and this story that they love, really

(02:52):
for a lot of times the first time at this scale.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I have to say, you know, when you talk about
a musical of this caliber, and especially with you two
really being on the stage for most of the show.
I mean, there's not a lot of moments where at
least one of you is not there. You have to
carry a lot of the tunes, right, you know, Hannah
blown away by the amount of talent that you have.

(03:19):
Banks also, just how much of the music is so like,
I am full on belting.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
These oh yeahunes.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
What's the fatigue level here? Because there are some notable tunes.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I knew some of the songs just from you know,
even not having seen the show, I didn't know they
were from that show. But you know, what is it
like this show compared to some of the other productions
that you've been a part of.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, you know, I have to say I've made my
whole career I feel like doing these really big vocal musicals.
So it's not like massively different from the rest of
my experiences. But I will say that in particular, like
this role itself is just so media and challenging. Like
she really sings I think thirteen or fifteen songs the show.

(04:00):
I do twenty two costume changes. I mean, I'm never
not doing something, So I would say physically it's also
incredibly demanding, but it's so rewarding. I mean, the music
is so great that the storyline is so captivating and
so beautiful. It's really a human piece about relationships and
love and self love. And because it's so rewarding, it

(04:23):
feels so much less fatiguing, do you know what I mean? Like,
it's just it's such a pleasure and such an honor
to get to play this part every night. That doesn't
mean I don't go home and sit on the heating
pad every night, but yeah, it's really really fun. And
my voice teacher is incredible and he really helps me stay,
you know, in physical shape for the show. I meet
with him every week and that's a really big help.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
We're speaking with the star as a Funny Girl, which
just playing at the Orphium. They're going to be there
through Sunday, a couple of shows. On Sunday, we'll wrap
it up. But Stephen, the Nick Earnstein character is you know,
he's the handsome man who comes in kind of rocks
Fanny's world for the most part, and he's an incredibly
complex character. But there's so much dancing in this entire

(05:07):
show because it's kind of about shows too, right, you know.
So you know, from your perspective, I know that there's
some incredible tap dancing numbers throughout this as well. But
you know, for people who haven't seen a show like this,
this really is kind of a callback, not even just
to win. This show was first performed, but really decades
before that, when Fanny Brice was a star.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, yeah, it really is a love letter to Broadway
and you know, opening the Broadway season at the Orpheum,
it really is a show for people who love musicals
because it does, you know, the modern idea of what
a Broadway musical looks like really came from the Zigfeld
follies all the way back in the nineteen tens and
nineteen twenties, and so it really is a callback to that.

(05:48):
It really. I always say this show has everything that
people love about musicals, kind of in one evening. You know,
you've got It's got a very complex storyline, it has great,
you know, a great score played by a great big
orc that sounds like those great, big, old fashioned musicals
that everybody grows up loving. And then it has the
fantastic tap dancing by Iodeli Cassell choreographed it, and it's

(06:12):
just really it has everything that people love about musicals.
It's got romance, it's got you know, a little bittersweet.
So yeah, it really is. And it's about the theater.
I mean, Fanny grows up in the theater and makes
her life in the theater, and so as a performer,
it's incredibly rewarding to get to do a show that
acknowledges the power of what we do and really acknowledges

(06:34):
it and you know, celebrate celebrates it.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Absolutely, well, this isn't a movie. I have to remind
myself when I go and see this. You know, I
saw My Fair Lady for the first time last year, right,
and I don't know how it ends because I try
to keep myself in the dark when I haven't seen
these things. Yeah, and I was kind of like, you
kind of get knocked back. It was like, you really
don't know where a lot of the stories go in
theater because it's not designed to just give you that

(06:59):
perfect Hollywood ending that the rom COM's like to how
do you describe Nick Earnstein, because I just never knew
which way that was gonna end up going.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, I mean he is an incredibly complex character. I
think you know, he gets labeled a lot of times
as the villain of the piece or the antagonist, and
I think that's, you know, that's not quite right, because
I think that there are two people who are incredibly ambitious,
and you know, Fanny and Nick both are incredibly ambitious,
and they're both also sort of lonely in their own way,

(07:27):
and they find each other and they have this incredible
passionate relationship, and Fanny, you know, ascends to the heights
of stardom and Nick kind of takes the opposite journey,
where he starts off as the gambler man about town
and then sort of has to reckon with his humility
over the course of the show and ends up in

(07:47):
a very different place, really having to be much more
humble and much more grounded. So it's almost the inverse
of Fanny's journey, which is really as an actor that's
really exciting to get to play. But he's also somebody
who's definitely a romantic, you know, and he's very much
in love with Fanny, and his own shortcomings are his

(08:07):
undoing and it's tragic, but it's also I think I
think it's fulfilling to play out a relationship that is
a real relationship. You know, it was based on a
real relationship. It it is not that the great, big,
you know, fairy tale ending that a lot of people
would like. But it's real and it's very human, and
you know, getting to getting to do that every night

(08:30):
and sort of reckon with my humility and my vulnerability,
I think makes it a much more interesting journey.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
It's very cool that it's like these two imperfect people
falling in love and like working through their imperfections and
how they're able to succeed at that and how they
fail at it.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
And they're also you know, they're also a product of
the time period, you know, like like they're the gender
roles and the fact that you know, Fanny has to
work very hard to overcome a lot of the the
you know, the images of what a woman should be,
and Nick, in his own way, has to wrestle with
his mask and what it means to be a successful
man at that time. So I think it's it's also
a product of the time period.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
And even then I left that was my first takeaway.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
It was my fear as a man now, Like I
watched the trials and tribulation to Nick Arnstein and I'm
just like, I don't.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Know how I would handle that.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, yeah, if you know, all of a sudden, my
significant other and I love my wife and everything, and
I would root her on to achieve whatever. But I
have to also like feel like I am holding up
my end of the bargain and way of that support.
And I'm sure on the stage, you guys did a
very good job of trying to understand not just the

(09:38):
financial piece of whatever that relationship was, but also how
much Nick meant to Fanny as well in trying to
portray that. How you know, do you best describe the
relationship from Fanny's perspective?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
You know, I think she has never met someone like
Nick Earnstein. When she first meets him. She comes from
this very working class, lower class family, and so Nick
to her is like what she aspires to be. She
really admires, and he sort of encapulates and cocalpulates. Yeah,
but I can't speak the world she wants to be

(10:10):
a part of. So she's enamored with him from the start.
And I think what ends up happening is, and Stephen
kind of touched on this, is that she starts to
rise to the level she perceives him at and he
starts to take a downturn, and because of that, she
has put him on this pedestal their whole relationship, so
she will always see him on that pedestal. She doesn't

(10:31):
see him for his shortcomings or his faults. She doesn't
want to recognize that maybe he needs her to take
a step back from helping him and he needs to
help himself. And it's a product of how much she
loves him. And I think the reason that the final
scene gets so emotional and so tragic is because she
is really like, I'm going to fix this. I'm going

(10:52):
to make this work. And that's how she is in life,
you know what I mean. She never takes no for
an answer. She doesn't take failure as an option.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
And hasn't failed very much nor career.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
No, she pushed really hard and she got what she wanted,
and so she doesn't understand what it feels like to
not be in control of something. She thinks she can
control everything and that it will just make it better.
So I think for her, and this is also true
I think of Fanny in real life. You know, I
read a lot of source material on her. She didn't
realize his faults until way after the relationship ended. Sorry

(11:26):
spoiler alert, but she talks about in her her not
her memoir, but in the pieces that had been written
about her, about how she really couldn't see the faults
and Nick until she had distanced herself from him. She
couldn't see the man that he really was because she
had made up this person that she had fallen in
love with.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Really, and I think the interesting thing for me as
an actor was reading that she she was desperately in
love with him and never knew what he was telling her,
the truth that she really could never tell, you know,
because he was such a He was such a good
compluffer and such a good gambler really, And that's something
I've taken and run with in this shows. There are
lines where I'm like, I wonder what would happen if

(12:04):
I'm not telling the truth to her right now?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Like that, It's just an interesting aspect psychologically to play
with as an actor.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, well, I can tell you this. I saw the
show not knowing what the show is going to look like.
I you know, in terms of the emotions, it's incredibly
relatable even though it's set, you know, over one hundred
years ago. Yeah, you know, it is relatable to a
lot of feelings that people would have. It is more
about the love story than just even a career. And
you guys do such a great job. So I'll let
you guys kind of figure this out between the two

(12:31):
of you. I need a thirty second elevator pitch to
people that need to go to the orphan you and
see this thing and try to figure out, you know,
enjoy what will be an incredible, you know, two and
a half hours of just incredible theater to open up
Broadway season here at the Orpheum.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
I'd say, if you love musicals, if you've ever loved
a musical, if you've ever even thought about going to
see a music hole, this is like you know, like
I said before, this really is a love letter to Broadway,
and it celebrates Broadway. And I think right now in
the world world, you know, we need we need escapism,
we need to be inspired, we need to be uplifted,

(13:07):
We need to celebrate you know, everything that that makes
Broadway special, which is the lights, in the in the.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Dancing and the singing and the love story.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Very big orchestra, and it also is a chance to
see a show at a scale that you've never seen
it before. You know. So if you if you have
heard of the movie, or love the movie, or love
love any of the songs people don't ring in My Parade,
any of that, come see us. You'll laugh, He'll cry exactly,
You'll laugh, You'll cry, I'll do everything you want to.
You'll you'll take a really emotional journey with us too.

(13:39):
And I think that that is something that this show.
I think people will go in, like you said, not
expecting necessarily to have sort of a Catharsis and to
really see a complex relationship while at the same time celebrating,
you know, a great, big Broadway musical. So please come
see us at the Orpheum.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, well it was a it was a packed house
last night for opening night, and I'm sure you guys
are going to be very busy throughout the rest of
the week. Hannah shank been playing Fanny Bryce Stephen Mark
Lucas playing Nick Earnstein. They are the Stars a Funny
Girl at the Orpheum the rest of the week through Sunday.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Guys, thanks so much for stopping in.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
This is always a pleasure to talk to people who
get to do what you guys do, and thanks so
much for joining us today

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Thanks for having us, We appreciate it.
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