Gavin Newsom Reaches Across the Aisle to Charlie Kirk

Gavin Newsom Reaches Across the Aisle to Charlie Kirk

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I ob baousally said this since the beginning of my
radio show here in June of twenty three. Who's the
number one person to watch in the future for the
Democratic Party? One Gavin Newsom. I've been saying that for
a while.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
You have been saying you know, you've been saying that.
You were one of the first ones I heard saying that,
and you've continued to say it. Yeah, and you know what,
it's the same thing. Why remember I said Josh Shapiro,
the Pennsylvania governor, should have been considered for the vice presidency.
He was the best possible candidate. But I think the Democrats,
and I think people around guys like Newsom and Harris

(00:39):
realized that it was going to be too much of
an uphill battle and they needed to distance themselves from
what was happening. Otherwise they would go down with the ship.
Let's be realistic here, have we heard the last of
ten walls At a national level? My guess would be yes, Yeah,
that feels right. Jos Shapiro and Kevin Newsom have way
too much potential as viable candidates to be president for

(01:02):
the Democrats in the future. There was no way they
were going to attach themselves to that ticket for pretty
obvious reasons, not that the Democrats tanked themselves intentionally, but
is there really a loss? And I say this with
all due respect, is it really a loss for the
Democrats to have Biden, Harris and Walls out of the
national picture? And the answer is just no, What would

(01:26):
you be losing? There's nothing there. Well, Gavin Newsom is
continuing to try to position himself now for a presidential
run in twenty twenty eight, which I'm saying he's doing
and I'm saying preemptively four years out, he is the favorite.
And I say this because he's going to have the profile,
he's got the charisma, he's got the charm, and I think,

(01:47):
based on how politics works in America, if you do
enough of the right things, any of your shortcomings can
be overlooked by everyone except the direct opposition, who are
going to be trying to hammer at home every single day.
It'd be interesting to see a Shapiro and Newsome if
they go in and try to attack each other, because

(02:10):
neither guy seems to be the attacking type when it
comes to trying to win an election. But I'm guessing
those two guys at least, and there certainly could be
another three or four that are in the mix that
could be legitimate candidates in twenty twenty eight. And I
know we're getting way ahead of ourselves, but you got
to keep that in mind. You got to keep in
mind what those rhetorics are going to be. Stroke of

(02:33):
genius here from Gavin Newsom. Now we know the wildfires,
he's going to have to answer for those. We are
not entirely sure what that fallout is going to be.
But have you heard too much about wildfires and the
damage that they have done in the national news media
for the better part of the last I don't know,
five or six weeks, not a whole lot. See, That's
what I'm saying. We get so like by the time

(02:55):
Trump is being inaugurated, we were done with the wildfire stuff.
I mean, it's like it's over with. It wasn't over with.
But you know, this is the general public, squirrel what's
going on over here? It doesn't directly affect us. What's
the next thing? And then Elon and Doge took over
in the political left have been focusing on them. The
political right have been looking at Ukraine. We've been distracted.

(03:19):
While you've been distracted, California Governor Gavin Newsom has started
a new podcast. Gavin Newsom hosts a podcast. Now you
know what it's called. This is Gavin Newsom could have
been more clever. I feel like, yeah, but you got
to have the name in it, because remember, this is
sneakily trying to build his name, brand and recognition for

(03:40):
a presidential run in twenty eight I've already thought it
two better than that. Let's go. It took me two seconds,
Gavin with Gavin now number two, it's newsome to me. Oh,
come on, now, both better than that generic this name
Avin Newsom? Now no, they literally they just want there,
like they really just want Gavin's name to be out there.

(04:03):
Who do you think Gavin Newsom would have what I
thought of a third one? I'm so sorry, Gavin Fever
like Cavin Fever but outa yeah. Now see these are
clever and these are good ideas. If Gavin is like
a DJ, Gavin's trying to set himself to run for president,
he's got to attack this with as much seriousness to

(04:23):
the brand recognition as possible. How about Uncle Gavin's dimly
lit dungeon definitely gonna be that that would be a
tough sell considering what he's attempting to achieve. But let
me get to my point here. Who would Gavin Newsom
have on his first podcast? Verse one? You are You're
a Democratic governor of the largest state in the United
States as far as population is concerned. You have a

(04:45):
pretty high profile as a politician. You get interviewed on
national networks all the time, regardless of whether or not
it really matters what you think. Who would be the
first person you would talk to?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Now?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I don't know strategically what makes sense. I just know
I wouldn't expect it to be a millennial aged conservative
podcasting extraordinaire, A guy who literally goes to college campuses
with the intent to debate anyone who wants to post
him on any view. Charlie Kirk. What a crazy idea

(05:16):
going in like inviting Charlie Kirk of all people, to
be on this brand new show, this brand new podcast.
I don't know who's advising him, but I would guess
that he's advising himself. I'm guessing he thinks this. You
know why I think this because when they sat down,
Gavin talked about why he's on his radar and it

(05:37):
has everything to do with Gavin's son. And this is
what he had to say. This is kind of like
a mesh point between a couple of different points that
were edited together. But listen to this. This is candid conversation.
Gavin Newsom speaking to Republican conservative, hardcore conservative podcast or
and influencer Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Last night with my son to bed, He's like, no, Dad,
I just what time?

Speaker 4 (06:03):
What time is Charlie going to be here? What time?
And I'm like, dude, you're in school tomorrow. He's thirteen.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
He's like, no, no, this morning wakes up at six something,
He's like, I'm coming.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
I'm like, he literally would not leave the house. Did
you let him to take off school? No? He did,
of course not. He's not here for a good reason.
But the point is you canceled school for two years once.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
The point is the point, which is you are making
a damn dead I'm kidding. When you go to these
college campuses, I love watching your TikTok, which is next level,
and clearly that's expressed by my thirteen year old son.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
I want to meet this guy.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, I actually it's coming to a turning point event
this summer Tampa, Florida Student Action Summit.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
I actually, by the way, if you should be concerned,
but let me say here, here is why I'm concerned,
because you have expressed that I should be concerned as
a Democrat, that we're getting Oh we're getting blobbard. Yes,
that you've you've figured something out.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's not me.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
The president first deserves the credit.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
But why no, no, hold on, you were at this
before Trump was trying to know but he was a
demo back in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
But the president deserves huge credit. And I just have
to say that as an obligatory thing because without him,
armation would be small. And you can appreciate that in politics,
you have to appreciate the person who for you. That's
what you sort of attached with my dead It was
also just the catalyst. It was a cultural moment that
just opened us.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Up pretty interesting stuff. Now, first of all, I'm gonna
preface this and I'm gonna take a break, and I
got a few other clips that I want to highlight here.
This is the exact kind of conversation I've been begging
people on both sides to have since I sat down
and started this radio show. Yes it's naive, and yes
he's getting both guys, Both Charlie Kirk and Gavin Newsom

(07:37):
have certainly alienated some of their own fan bases based
on the comments of this which was released last night
or early this morning or something along those lines. All
this video has been coming in today. I've watched most
of the conversation and you can find that this is
Gavin Newsom podcasts on the free iHeartRadio app. But this

(07:58):
is the kind of conversation of people that we know
to be polar opposite in political beliefs sitting down and
having a cordial conversation. This is in Gavin Newsom's living room.
Basically that they're doing this and just being willing to
joke with the whole you canceled school for two years,
jab at Gavin and he all he can do is
just kind of smile and laugh at that. I mean,

(08:21):
it's good stuff. I got more good stuff from this,
and we'll kind of talk about this and why it's
a healthy exercise, but also what we learned from it.
Coming back right after this more with Gavin Newsom and
Charlie Kirk next on news Radio eleven, Tin Kfab and
Marie talking about this Gavin Newsom podcasts called This is
Gavin Newsom available where every year podcast including the iHeartRadio
WAT and he's talking to Charlie Kirk, his first ever

(08:44):
This Is Gavin Newsom podcast is with a very conservative,
very right wing influencer who's twenty something years younger than
he is and is obviously resonating with Gavin Sun as
you heard in the first that I played just a
few minutes ago. Now I'm going to talk about some
of the meat on the bones here of the political

(09:05):
conversations that got into Gavin's the host of this he's
a governor of California, and I am telling you he
is positioning himself to run for president for the twenty
twenty eighth cycle, and he is going to try to
do anything that he possibly can to make himself look
attractive to the political center. Here is him asking Charlie Kirk,

(09:27):
a hardcore conservative Republican, about which Democrats he admires in
the Democratic Party.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Any Democrats you admire out there right now? Democrats?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I respect you, Bobby Kennedy, I respect Tulci Gabbard.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Why are you laughing? You guys? Kicked out like your
best people.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's like the people that were into This is a
great point, though, Governor Bobby Kennedy was a heterodox opinion
on a thing that a lot of people are concerned about.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Out he's anti vaxxer.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Tulci Gabbard, who is an anti work, get her out,
she's a Russian agent. Do you, guys see how you
have an unhealthy purification process where eventually you're left with
just a thirty one percent approval rating and a bunch
of people that are talking to each other. And meanwhile,
we're the ones that have Democrats in our cabinet winning
the electoral majority vote, because there needs to be said,
we're if Democrats are serious about being a majority party.

(10:19):
Ever again, look at that ideological diversity. We have people that,
you know, geez, they want to go to war with
every country that says something bad against us. And then
we have people that are far more dubvish, you know,
like Rand Paul. But that is a better more Dare
I say diverse picture, you could say diversities our strength?

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Oh look at you?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Ah, come on, how do you not love this stuff?
This is great stuff. Gavin Newsom just has to watch
him he asked the question, and he has to watch
him straight up tell him like we took your best,
like your best people are leaving your party or you're
kicking them out of the party. And Gavin Newsom is
just kind of nodding and agreeing with some of what

(10:57):
he's doing here. And he's obvious obviously like interested in
having the conversation. We can debate. We'll debate after this
about how genuine is the reaction or the conversation of
what Gavin Newsom is trying to accomplish here. I would

(11:17):
say maybe the biggest conversation that we are having socially,
at least in this country since Donald Trump took offices
the relationship of transgender people in this country and everyone else.
And we have states like Iowa that have been kind
of pulling back some of the language in their state
laws about gender identity. We are seeing the federal government

(11:42):
do everything that it can do through executive action from
Donald Trump, to prevent biological males who are identifying as
females participating in women's or girls' sports. And this came
up with Gavin Newsom and Charlie Kirk. With Charlie Kirk
essentially explaining what needs to happen for the Democrats to
get on the right side of this issue where it

(12:04):
seems like a large majority of people are kind of living.
Here is Charlie Kirk talking and basically straight up saying
what needs to happen. In Gavin Newsom's response to trans
females playing girl sports.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
You right now should come out and be like, you
know what, the young man who's about to win the
state championship in the long jump in female sports, right,
that's that that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should
step out and say no, no, And I appreciate and like,
would you do something like that? Would you say no
men in female sports? Well, I think it's an issue
of fairness. I completely agree with you on that. So
that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. There's

(12:37):
also a humility and a grace. You know that these
poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety
and depression, and the way that people talk down to
vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard
time with as well. So both things I can hold
in my hand. How can we address this issue with
the kind of decency that I think you know, is

(12:57):
inherent in you, but not always express.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
And it's a good point there, and he's certainly playing
down the middle there. But he's getting destroyed by liberal
social media right now because he straight up said it's
not fair. He said, it's unfair that they play the game.
And this is where I come from too. I want
to be a respectful individual to these And by the way,
if you're wondering who Charlie Kirk was talking about, it's

(13:21):
a track and field athlete named ab Hernandez. And ab
Hernandez is from all accounts, and I think I talked
about this a few days ago. Ab Hernandez is a
transgender female, a biological male, doing track and field against
girls in California high school system and dominating the standings

(13:42):
of like the triple jump in the long jump. Biologically
it's very unfair, as Gavin Newsom said here, But how
do you handle that situation? That's what he's saying. I
think they're saying we should just leave it be. We
don't have a good way to handle this because you
don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. At the same time,
look how many people's feels are getting hurt by just
not doing anything at all, including the entire state of California,

(14:02):
who I think most people, even as liberal as estate is,
would agree that that's a problem. The last clip I
want to play from this before we get to our
analysis is strategy, because Gavin Newsom, the governor of the
most highly populated state in the Union, is asking a
thirty one year old Republican podcaster for advice for his
political party. Here's what he had to say.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
I think you talked about it the other day.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
A lot of folks were talking about that carvill article
where he talked about all over rollover in senc I
think it's a strategic retreat, right that we need to
come back. Trump's starting to plode as numbers are getting soft,
and this was even before the tariff issues, etc. And
then come back and strike when hot and immediately nobody
else thought about you, who's just twenty four to seven

(14:46):
flooding the zone, owning this space every day, getting a
convert every day, picking up one to ten thousand folks,
continuing the momentum coming out of this damn election. And
then I'm thinking about we're going to stand back and
watch you run circles around us for six months the
next two or three years, waiting for the moment to
finally strike struck me as not necessarily the best advice.

(15:09):
And it's not a knock on Carvil, who I have
deep respect for.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
That, so I don't have to He was, He's right
about one thing in the last forty years. It's economy
stupid and boys, he spent he spent down that one
line pretty amazingly.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, I hope you guys retreat you kind of like
for us.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I mean, if there's no opposition, there's no arctivist activist spark.
You guys are posting these cringe videos on social media.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
The videos, what are the ones?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I don't know this like harmonious thing of like twenty
two senators all saying the same.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Thing like that.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, I didn't like it. What do you go? Go ahead,
go do more of that? What do you do? But
what do you do? Seriously, Charliekirk, give us some of
the better ideas, Governor.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
There you go, bingo, get better ideas. He said that
to his face. Gavin Newsom's asking Charlie Kirk a thirty
one year old podcast, you can't even he's not even
old enough to run for president, and he's asking him
what should they do, And a lot of Republicans are
slamming Charlie for even giving Gavin advice, even talking to them. Look, guys,
I'm not here to tell you what you should think

(16:05):
about things, but tribalism is bad.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
It is.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Being so hardcore Republican and so anti Democrat isn't healthy.
It's not healthy for the United States because if we
keep separating ourselves with this giant brick wall of issues
that we seem to have generally in this country. For
the people who are following the news on one side
or the other now the independent vote or not that
they don't watch the news, but they kind of fluctuate

(16:30):
because they're not living and dying with every single issue
that we're talking about here. But that brick wall in
between us can't come down and us grow together as
a society if we keep trying to just play one
team against the other. So I think this is a
healthy exercise. I think it is a good idea. And
we can disagree with Gavin Newsom's politics all we want,
but I think it's important to note that he's at
least willing to hear what the other side is talking

(16:51):
about whether or not they're trying to copy that. I
don't think you can copy it, but you definitely I
think it would be good for America. The Democrats in
general decided they were going to back down from some
of these outlandish things that they have decided to dig
in on, like transgender females in sports playing against women
and girls, like having open borders, and like having all

(17:16):
of this crazy stuff. Al Green, who was ejected from
the Joint Session of Congress because he was acting a
fool and interrupting Donald Trump's speech, he got censured today
by Republicans in the House of Representatives who just wanted
him to have consequences for his actions breaking decorum in
a very important and public place. And as soon as

(17:36):
they voted to do that, the Democrats in the in
the House, not every single one of them, but a
lot of them started singing, we shall overcome. This is
Danty Pelosi kneeling with the with the scarf on all
over again. This, I mean, this is not winning anyone.
This is making you look like absolute fools, like idiots.
If you have thoughts and comments on this, we'll open

(17:58):
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Speaker 4 (18:13):
B Emrie Sunger.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Do you look at some of the responses stuff like this,
because I send you the clips? Oh like the comments? Yeah,
I didn't take a gander at them, but I'm sure
they're very interesting. It's a lot of people like Gavin
Newsom shared one of the clips, which is the one
where he is asking Charlie for advice, and there are
a ton of people in the comments that are just like,

(18:35):
what are we doing here? This one guy? Uh Ron
phillip Kowski. Are you familiar with Ron philip Kowski. He's
a common He's a common Twitter guy. Yeah, Yeah, he's
a He does a lot of different stuff. He says
that he used to be a hardcore Republican, but since
Donald Trump's took taken over, he's turned into kind of
the opposite. But he's he has almost a million followers

(18:58):
on x and he said and quote and this is
this is on This is him commenting on Gavin Newsom's
post about this conversation. He said, this ain't it. Chief.
I criticize what we are doing as much as anyone,
but this ain't it. Maybe this will help with the
Charlie Kirk wing of Democratic primary voters. And guess what,
lots of dim activists with huge audiences have been working

(19:21):
twenty four to seven since the day after the election
end quote but wait have they Have you seen any activism?
Have you seen anything other than just boo doge, boo elon,
boo Trump, boo ice. Have you have you seen anything
that's like positively turning things around. No, it's because they

(19:45):
have to lick their wounds. And this is what they
were talking about that article that James Carvelt put out
and said Donald Trump is going to punch himself out
to the point where he's gonna come down and people
will get sick of him. Well, duh, that's literally every
president in the history of America. You don't stay popular
to that level forever. Like the modern era, didn't we

(20:06):
talk about this, Let's go FDR post FDR. Now, Republicans
could not after Herbert Hoover over like presided over Black
Monday in how we got into the Great Depression. The
Republicans couldn't come up with a good enough person to
go after FDR in thirty three and thirty seven in

(20:28):
or it was third of the thirty two election, in
the thirty six election, in the forty election, the forty
four election. He was elected four times. Now he died
very early on in his fourth term. But after that,
and we amended the constitution that a president can only
serve two terms as the President of the United States.
Can we go through the We've done this exercise before.

(20:51):
Harry Truman, who took over after FDR was a Democrat.
You know, he took over after him. Eisenhower a Republican.
You know, he took over after him. Oh Kennedy who
was a Democrat. And then obviously he gets killed in office.
Johnson takes over. He's a Democrat. You know who takes
over after he's done, Richard M. Nixon, who is happens
to be a Republican. I am not a crook. He

(21:13):
gets he resigns, he was probably gonna get impeached and
remove He resigns from office, taking over for him because
of you know the rule, Gerald Ford another Republican. After
he's done, it's Jimmy Carter, a Democrat. After one term,
it was Ronald Reagan, a Republican. Now he was successful
enough in the eighties that his heir apparent, George HW Bush,

(21:34):
ended up getting a term. But people soured on George
HW Bush very quickly after he took office, and he,
I mean, he was easily going to get defeated by
the time we got to nineteen ninety two where Clinton won.
After Clinton won and did his two terms, it was
George W. Bush. He did two terms, and then it
was Obama, and then it was Trump, and then it
was Biden, and now it's Trump again. People get sick

(21:55):
of the person in power. I just went through eighty years,
almost ninety years, really ninety years of American history with
our presidents, and the American public in general does not
activate for the power or the party that is in power.
It is just not a thing that happens. But you
cannot sit and rest on your laurels and hope that

(22:16):
the demise of the other side or people getting sick
of the other side means that you've made any progress.
And speaking on a level that is a winning message
with the American people, and that's what I think mostly
Gavin Newsom's after here, And this is why I think
this is good. We can talk about how bad his
politics are, we can talk about all the shortcomings of

(22:37):
his state, we can talk about everything that the Democrats
stand for right now and how most of it just
doesn't make any sense. I do think he's kind of
trying to figure out a way. Whether it's genuine or
not is a different question altogether, but he's trying to
understand what it would take to bring his party back

(22:57):
to the table, back to the common since table of saying, look,
there are things that we just need to clean up
the way that we talk about this stuff on. Like
I said, you think anybody is changing their mind about
the Democrat Party when they look at Al Green getting
censured after getting kicked out of what essentially was the
State of the Union address. You know what they did.

(23:19):
The Democrats started to sing we shall overcome, standing there
with this cane in his hand and everybody around him
singing we shall overcome. And even there there are some
Democrats in the comments saying, yeah, we're really not going
to break out of this like theater kid energy are
we It makes you look ridiculous. And Gavin Newsom, I
think sees that he wants to be more functional. He

(23:43):
wants the Democrats to be more functional. And if you're
a hardcore Republican, you're like, no, I don't want this
to change because all the momentum is certainly on our side.
And you are right, even if Donald Trump has a
few missteps, even if there are some things that we
aren't necessarily seeing that we want to see, or how
well the general public are going to view the approval
ratings of Donald Trump over the next four years, right,

(24:05):
But things have never really been this good in the
last twenty twenty five years for Republicans, where it seems
like a majority of the country is, you know, kind
of on board with whatever they want to do because
they feel completely alienated by some of the crazy stuff
that the political left believes. But I will tell you
when we come back why I think this is a
positive overall for America, maybe not the Republican Party, but

(24:27):
for America. And I'll do that next on news radio
eleven ten kfab and the song kind of like have
a quasi debates in his living room with these guys,
because he flew Charlie Kirk out to his house and
they did this podcast at his house, and I actually
was pretty pretty into it. I really liked most of
the conversation. And again, you can talk about they're playing

(24:49):
politics with each other a little bit, and I was
happy to hear them both be pretty respectful to each other,
even if they greatly disagreed on some of the stuff
that was being said. But this is why I think
it's good that we're having this conversation, or that they
were having that conversation, or that Gavin Newsom is an
advocate of kind of trying to use common sense to
pull his party back to the table where an independent

(25:09):
voter would like to vote for them. I am not
team Republican. I am not team Conservative. I'm not team Democrat.
I'm not team progressiveness. I'm not team anything except Team America.
And anybody that wants to call my show or email
me or have any thoughts about a lot of the
news stuff that we talk about here, local, national, international, whatever.

(25:33):
If you're not Team America, then what are we even
talking about here. This isn't a game. It shouldn't be
a game. I know it's more fun and more entertaining
when it's us versus them. But it doesn't need to
be that. I want, in a perfect world, multiple options
with two political parties that might feel differently about some
core issues, but I don't feel like either side is

(25:56):
completely leaving America behind, leaving our people behind. Ivinsome is
openly saying stuff like I do think that there's an
issue of fairness in women's sports when transgender people are
allowed to play. That's the first step of getting back
to common sense. If you are one of the conservative
people that I'm seeing online outright saying that this is

(26:17):
bad for Republicans, we don't want Democrats to get wise
to why they are losing because we just want Republicans
to keep winning. That's not healthy. It's good to have
solid competition with two parties at least. It'd be great
to have three or four, honestly, but at least two
parties that most of us feel like could represent what

(26:40):
we feel. That's what makes the fringes the fringes. There
should be less than ten percent on the very far
right in the very far left. You know why, because
that's the radicalists, and because our political parties have gotten
so divisive and tried to pull each other further away
from the middle. It has us so far to a

(27:01):
point where I'm just not so sure we can get
out of this without somebody saying, look, we're wrong or
we're losing, and we need to come up with some
way to figure out how we win. And if Gavin
Newsom is the guy who's going to end up doing that,
I have no problem with that. I think it is
healthy for the Republicans as well to hear a competitive
Democratic party say things, and then the Republicans have to

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get better. They have to understand that messaging as well.
It shouldn't be team versus, team us versus them. It
really should be what's best for the United States of America.
And having two political parties that we can all kind
of look at each other and say, you know, I
don't agree with what they say on a lot of policies,
but at least they're not radicalists. At least they want
what's best for the country, even if some of the

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policies are a bit different. I think that's good. That's
what I think could be healthy for us in correcting
the device of nature and the tribalism that we've been
experiencing politically for the better part of the last fifteen years.
We got plenty more coming up a very interesting three
o'clock hour. I promise you stick around. You're listening to
Emory Songer on news Radio eleven ten KFAB