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February 27, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Matt, what are we talking about today? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
There's a bunch of couple. I feel like today is
filed under silacious. There's some silacious news today. You got
the Gene Hackman situation. So Gene Hackman is out there.
He's he's gene retirement lately for the last couple of decades.
He's hanging out with his with his uh, with his
wife and she's thirty years his junior. But you know,

(00:22):
he's he's a he's an old, little bit grumpy old man.
And he's living out there in New Mexico doing who
knows what, but who cares right because it's his own business.
Who knows what exactly, but it's his own business. Jean,
do your thing, Shine on you, crazy diamond. And he's
got three dogs, okay, three dogs, and on his compound.
And anytime you live on a compound, you know bad

(00:42):
things are gonna go down.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's what's a compound.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
He lives on a compound out in New Mexico. He's
waiting for the aliens. That's what he's doing. Let's say
the quiet part out loud, and Gene Hackman's out there waiting.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
A suburban neighborhood that you know, was not a compound.
He had neighbors or he wasn't all by himself in
the compound, nowhere close to other civilization. He was living
in Santa Fe, which is a pretty populated area of
New Mexico. Making stuff up again.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, that's all beside the point, because what happened was
today he was found dead.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Okay, we're now we're moving forward. There we go. Okay,
now rip to the hack Man. Yeah, yeah, and the
guy that was memorable. I mean, Hoosier is one of
my all time favorite movies. He's Norman Dale to me,
Like that's the most notable role for me and my
like of my fandom of his. But he was a
guy that in any movie, whether he was a good

(01:38):
guy the bad guy, you know, from Lex Luthor to
the Coach and the Replacements, I mean, the guy could
do a lot of different things and make it feel
different ways. Well, we have autopsies completed, now are you ready? Oh?
The Santa Fe County Sheriff's Department has revealed autopsies were
completed on both Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, and

(02:00):
that was in a press release this afternoon. No external
trauma was seen on either person. So anybody that said
like he bounced his head off the floor or something
and had like a wound and bled out or something
from a fall, well it wasn't that obvious at least
on their exteriors. Authorities continue to investigate their deaths and

(02:23):
some of the results, including a toxicology report, which we're
wondering about, especially with Betsy's death, those are still pending.
Carbon monoxide and toxicology tests were ordered for both and
the cause of death at this point still remained undetermined.
They were found by a distressed maintenance worker called nine

(02:48):
one one immediately upon seeing their body.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, i'd gree and so he was in the mudroom.
That's where they found him. And she was found in
a separate location in the house, in a bathroom. She
was also found in the bathroom with a deceased dog
who was in the closet of the bathroom. Who was
in the closet of the bathroom. Yes, there are also
two other dogs on this compound with them. One dog

(03:16):
was found on the property somewhere alive. The other dog
was found in the bathroom with her alive. How long
have they been there for?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
They're saying that, you know, it's a bit different, right
because we're hearing that some people had seen them as
recently as Sunday. Some people say that nobody had been
in there. That could have been a couple of weeks.
So yeah, I mean the first thing I thought of,
and we were being told at the beginning of the
day when this story came out that it was, you know,

(03:50):
no foul play suspected. That leads us to believe that
there had to be like a gas leak or something
and they were asphyxiated somehow. As the day has gone on,
it's become more and more suspicious, and the tone in
which we're being told of things from the people who
are investigating this that yes, we need to search Warren
affidavit to you know, do a full on look at

(04:12):
what's going on in here. I don't think this is
going to end up being somebody from outside the house
did something to the people inside the house. And certainly
Gene Hackman, of all people, probably didn't have many connections
to anything left in Hollywood. The guy hadn't worked since
two thousand and four by his choice, yeah, by his choice,

(04:33):
and he's been married to this woman for a while, right,
I mean like it's been a while, so, I mean
it's not like she's just like a new person in
his life. Now, we had a caller and a couple
hours ago who suggested a theory, which, by the way,
she's he's he married her in ninety one. Okay, so
that's a long while. That's that's thirty five years almost, yeah,

(04:56):
give or take. Now. Again, we're not trying to make
like fun of this or anything like this, but you know,
it just leads to you make theories. I mean, like
you speculate. Yeah, that's what we're led to do in
this society that we live in.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well, they found a bottle of prescription pills tipped over,
spilled out over a countertop right next to where they
found her body. Yeah, Gene Hackman's wife. Wife, and the
dog was there too. Now, what did the dog die from?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
We don't know. I'm sure we'll learn about that too,
because I think there's a clue in there somewhere. Right,
the dog didn't have any trauma either, but it can't
be a leak if there's a dog in the house alive.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's a good point. I didn't think about that. That
basically kind of rules out that stipulation. There's no way
the other dog would have died too. Yeah, unless in
his dying move Gene Hackman opened a window.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Well, they did say that the door was open when
they got there, but I think that was opened by
the maintenance worker. So maybe that was his dying move.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Maybe that's how one of the dogs got out onto
the property and the other one kind of stuck close.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
So you know, good try though, good effort.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Well again, we had that lady a couple hours ago
who called in and said that she thought maybe Gene Hackman,
maybe maybe wife he got a little frustrated with Jeane
knocked him over.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Maybe knocked him over. He's I mean, look, let's and
he's been I mean he was seen a few months
ago and people covered it like it was some sort
of big news. Jeene Hackman seen at convenience store in
Santa fe like, leave the guy alone. But he looked
like an old man, he did.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
He didn't look like the Gene Hackman that we remembered. No,
but we hadn't seen Gene Hackman for twenty years.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
So yeah, he has kept himself not even just out
of the limelight, he has just not generally been seen
by anyone.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I mean breaking news twenty years ago, I had braces
on my teeth and long hair down to my shoulders
just as good looking. Just in case you what garryus.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Uh huh. Well, I think that most of what my
takeaway from this would be is that if that would
happen and he died from the impact of the fall,
and she felt like it was her fault and then she,
like prescription overdosed herself to death, wouldn't we see some
signs of physical trauma on him or did she like

(07:28):
knock him over and he was just unable to get
himself up.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Now, physical trauma would include if it was a head
injury from a fall, right.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
That would be my theory. Like, if we're going with
he fell and died from the fall, there are two things.
He's either gonna have physical trauma from the impact or
he just had no ability to stand up, And why
didn't she help him stand up?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
How does a ninety five year old gentleman who and
reported recent photos is, I mean, he's he's a frail guy,
old man. How does he end up on the ground
and have no injuries sustained from that? I'm thinking that
if you're gonna conk the coconut. You're gonna have a
bruise at least.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Or a broken hip or something. Yep, she was in
the house. He falls down. She doesn't think to call
somebody for help. I mean, he certainly could afford an
ambulance to come and help him. If he's got a
broken hip, he was placed there, or he just had
an episode of some kind. He's an old man. Something

(08:28):
could have happened internally to him. And then he goes down.
And but she finds him like that, there's a chance
that happened. And then she A lot of signs are
pointing to her overdosing herself in the bathroom. Man, But
why do you do that? If she finds him there,
he like has a heart attack, he falls down. We
wouldn't know that he had that until they find him

(08:49):
and they do the autopsy.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Those three dogs were their life, that was their life together.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
You think she would have just bailed on those three dogs. Well,
one of them's also dead, Like how did that dog die?
She had a favorite or something, and she let the
two just roam around. I mean, what a thing to do.
I don't see it. I know that's good it's interesting. Yeah, well,
n we'll know more in the coming days. But this
is like a true date line first forty eight, you

(09:17):
know whatever. Insert your investigative, true crime or news sustained
suspicious situation here. We are going to learn about it
in real time because people, I think, are growing more
and more curious as the hours wear on. With Gene

(09:38):
Hackman's death at the age of ninety five, along with
his sixty six year old wife, Betsy Arakawa, and one
of their dogs, but not the other two of their
dogs who were also found on the property, who's to say,
that's what we know, and we will tell you more
when we know more. Five seventeen more on the way,
including another couple of ticket given ways that I got
on tap for you on news Radio eleven ten.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
K drop the piece of my cookie on the ground. Thanks,
thanks for that. I keep saying, this is how we
get ants, this is how it happens. It's a little cold, Frances. Still,
huh where did the ants go? I was just gonna
ask that, like, like, how do they hybrin it? They
just like dig underground, They just live there for a while,
like the other invertebrates.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
I'd love to know How in the world does that work?
How long do they live?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
How the house flies make it throughout the year? Well,
I think anything that flies can migrate a lot faster
than something that has to crawl on the ground.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
So where's a high where's a house fly migrat into?
Let's ask chat GPT how do ants survive wintertime? Chat
GPT says ansurvive winter by going into dormancy. As temperatures drop,

(10:53):
They slow their metabolism, reduce activity, and retreat deep into
their nests, where they stay insulated from the cold and
Many species gather in large groups to conserve warmth, while
others seal off their tunnels to keep out all elements.
Some ants, like carpenter ants, burrow into wood for extra protection,
while others store food in their nests to sustain them
until the spring. And especially harsh climates, certain species produce

(11:14):
anti freeze like compounds to prevent their bodies from freezing.
Once temperatureize, they re emerge and resume their normal activities
as if nothing happened. Man, man, we don't give nature
enough credit. Uh uh? How do houseflies survive winter? Houseflies

(11:36):
survive winter in a few different ways, depending on the climate.
And their life stage. They hide indoors they like overwintering
as larvae or pew pe Some houseflies lay eggs and
warm protected areas before winter. The larvae remain dormant in
these spots until temperatureize. They lay eggs or have babies,
and then the babies stay babies until it warms up

(11:57):
so they can become adults. They don't just be turn
into adults immediately. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, if only humans could be like that, you know,
you could stay a kid until you're ready.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
How would that work? Though? I guess some people kind
of are you know, yeah, I mean, just how would
that work? People would just stay children forever? Well, I
was Peter Pan's idea, Yeah, but he was That's a
different thing, dude. Peter Pan wasn't exactly what I would
consider like a real child, would you say?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Captain Hook like underrated bad guy as far as like
sympathy factor, right, sympathy rating of bad guys has got
to be really high. I mean, you think about the
life of that guy. He's just some pirate out there
or is he even a pirate. He's a captain of
a ship. He's out there just trying to live his life,
and there's some child, some manchild frankly, Oh, first off,

(12:45):
cut off his hand and threw it into an alligator's mouth,
and now this alligator's tormenting him.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Well, that's what we're led to believe. Yeah, that's one
side of the story.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I just wish they'd revisit the whole thing and Captain
Hook would catch the guy and you know what would
happen next? What, Well, he'd walk the plank and then
he'd pretend like he couldn't fly, and then he'd start falling,
and then he'd zoom around, and then you know, mess
with Captain Hook Moore and torture that man into a sad,
horrible existence. I just I think it's a real Squidward
SpongeBob situation, and I feel bad for squid Word. Yeah,

(13:18):
but Squidward never actually kills or or has reason to
try to kill SpongeBob. Captain Hook literally is trying to
kill Peter Pan, and I think Squidword someday, once they
finally break the confines of having to be a children's show,
will get his moment where he gets to take SpongeBob by.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
The never mind, you're suggesting that squid word will kill SpongeBob.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I think there's gonna be a fry cook incident. I
think there's gonna be an accident. M he's gonna burn
him alive. I've seen SpongeBob land on that grill before.
He did not die. They live underwater, so you can't
exactly drown one of them. Yeah, that's a complication.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I watched what was his name Flats try to kick
SpongeBob's butt in that one episode and basically punches himself
out because SpongeBob's a sponge and his body absorbs the blows.
I mean literally is sitting there like playing cards with
Patrick while getting punched by Flats, and Flats eventually runs

(14:22):
out of stamina and falls down. So how do you,
I mean, so what do you even do at that point?
That's what I'm saying. The worst that we ever saw
SpongeBob get in. All of the people that aren't millennials
are just like, how can you be talking about this
right now? I don't know. But anyway, SpongeBob gets his
on the April Fools episode. Remember that when he's playing
all these April Fools jokes that are really harmless and
then s Woodward sets up one that basically almost murders him, like,

(14:49):
that's about as close as we got. And then Squidward
immediately felt bad for it, So I don't think he
would actually try to do it to him. So, yeah, something.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Tells me Squidward revisits that moment a lot in his
free time.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, probably does. We have a couple other things we
talking about. Gene Hackman. Jason says, Gene Hackman revisit his
Popeye Doyle role in the French Connection. And then Glenn
immediately also said, think about it, the French Connection drug
lords waited fifty years to get the revenge. They both
suggested the French Connection is being like art imitating life.

(15:23):
I guess, And then I'm just gonna read what Bill
said here. Bill said, I'm guessing he died of natural causes.
She odd on purpose or both from fitnel poisoning, and
I don't know about that. It was prescription drugs that
they found near her, but we don't have all of
the evidence. The dog that died was in a kennel,
probably died of starvation if this happened over a week ago.
If that's the case, then yes, nobody was there to

(15:46):
take care of the dog. Two other dogs were outside.
They say both shows said that they dropped. I'm not sure.
I can't That last sentence doesn't make a lot of sense.
And then Trevor said, if you're trying to kill SpongeBob,
dip him an acid. Oh so there's at least we

(16:08):
know if we want to try to kill SpongeBob. Square
pans dipping him an acid apparently, according to Trevors, get
the job done. I don't think they're gonna do that
on the show there, Trevor. But I do appreciate the
thought anticipating with the conversation, maybe the darkest thought I've
ever had. But what would that sound like? I don't
want to know. Let's stop right there. Okay, five twenty eight,

(16:33):
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here on news radio eleven ten kfab and resung. Hey,
you want to know something else. You had a question
how long do flies live? Remember that earlier in the hour.

(17:14):
Isn't it just like a couple of weeks? They are
an egg for one day. Females lay up to five
hundred eggs at a time in organic material like garbage
or manure. Five hundred. Wow, You want to know why
we get so many of them? Because they can lay
up to five hundred eggs a lot of eggs. So
they're an egg for one day. They're a larva for

(17:36):
three to five days. Maggots hatch and feed before pupe eating.
They are a pupa for three to six days. They
develop inside of a protective shell a pupa, and then
they're an adult for fifteen to thirty days. Once they emerge,
they quickly reproduce, continuing the cycle, and they breed rapidly.

(17:58):
They live up to thirty days. Fifteen to thirty days
is the full life span of a house fly. So
if you see a house fly in your house that's trapped,
it's going to be able to feed on just small
things and if it doesn't have a partner then you know,
but it'll probably die sometime soon. I mean, just give
it some time. It's only an adult for fifteen to
thirty days, you know what I mean, Like, what a

(18:21):
vicious life cycle that is. I mean every day to them,
every single day is probably like what three years for us?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, they're living three years worth of like a life
in one day. It's all relative. Elephants are pregnant for
like a year, aren't they like almost two years? Almost
two years. It's interesting, it's kind of like the size.
I mean, it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah. Queen ants, by the way, have you seen a
queen ant? Yeah? Some queen ants can live up to
fifteen to thirty years. What yeah? Yeah? Whoa. Male ants
have a short lifespan though, living just a few days
to a few weeks, and their only purpose is to
mate with the queen before they die, Like they're literally

(19:07):
just around to you know, make more ants. I mean
you had one job. You know. Worker ants typically live
for a few weeks or to several months, so larger
worker ants like carpenter ants can live for several months.
So there you go. Ants generally live longer than than

(19:27):
the old house flight does you know? Good for ants
still making the monarchy work.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Some people say it's an outdated system of governance, but
they're making it work for themselves.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I respect that elephants are pregnant, by the way, eighteen
to twenty two months, eighteen to twenty two months carrying
around a baby. That's why it's so important and crazy
to see all the babies that we've had at our zoo.
That's years of planning, Like, that's years of planning to
have a herd that is a social structure very similar
to the herds in Africa or Asia, depending on which

(19:59):
you know, variation or species of elephant that you have.
So that's crazy to me. So yeah, the gestation period
of just a growing elephant and a pregnant mom almost
two years. House flies alive for thirty days life. It's crazy, man,
it's crazy. And also the baby though for whatever it's worth.
The baby is like pretty functional pretty quickly. It's small,

(20:20):
but let me get it's walking around by the end
of its first day. It's kind of like a horse.
You know, horses like eleven months, but the baby horse
comes down and it's like already got more motor skills
than you know, a baby person does. Baby person, it
takes what two years to like even like have the

(20:41):
ability to use its hands the right way. I mean,
I was trying to play catch with my nephew, he
was like four years old, and it was baul was
still hit him in the face. Well, don't throw it
at his face. Well, I'm just trying to throw it
to where he can catch it. But he's not, like
his motor skills aren't working like that, right. So, I mean,
humans are just kind of a weird thing because they're
still like a developmental after they're born with their motor

(21:03):
skills and being able to walk and all that stuff,
it takes time still even though they're born. Technically, you
could say it's kind of like the larvae stage. They're
not fully formed humans yet because they can't do all
this stuff humans can do, but they're still you know,
a thing that's outside of their mom. Wow, this is
a weird. This is a weird conversation. It's weird. But

(21:26):
you asked me how long house flies lived, and that's
how we got here.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
So it's a good question to ask. I feel like,
is it though? How long does Jeff Goldbloom live? Wasn't
he the fly?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I think he's still alive. Actually that's good. I like
Jeff goldbluem it's good. Let's keep them alike. Hey, Jeff
Goldbloom is seventy two years old, by the way, him,
we keep yeah, good, good guy. By the way. Didn't
he just do the newest Jurassic World thing that they're doing?
He did it. He did a TV series the World.
According to Jeff Goldbloom, did man the Jurassic Park movie.

(22:01):
Like he actually is a dapper looking dude, like like
the the slim, black shirt, black pants guy who's like
the expert on dinosaurs. A good looking guy. Oh, he
was in Wicked, That's what he was in. He was
in Wicked. Did you know that, Jeff Goldbloom, he's the
Wizard of Oz. You know.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I could see him just wandering on set and then
just keeping him, you know, be like that. Jeff Goldbloom's here,
he can be.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
He was cast as a wonderful wizard of Oz. They
called that guy. They're like, you're gonna make a great OZ.
I don't like him as OS. I'm just gonna put
that out there. Why because you don't like OZ? No,
I think I don't. I don't think that's a good
fit for him. What do you mean it's not a
good fit for him. I don't see it. Characters I know,
and I bet he did a bad job. That's what
he did, a bad Jeff Goldbloom did a bad job.

(22:48):
You can't imagine him doing a good OZ. You gotta
be demonstrative, you gotta be larger than life. The man
is is his his nuances are nuanced. You're gonna hate
what I'm about to say. Jeff Goldbloom is in Thor Ragnarok,
and he is actually very demonstrative in that movie. You
walked right into it. It's a real thing, and you

(23:10):
walked into it because you haven't seen the Thorn movies.
Your fault. Yeah, your thought. He's in Thor Ragnarok and
he's a pretty demonstrative guy in it. So yeah, okay,
by the way, isn't the one The Wonderful The Wizard
of Oz. Isn't he Uh? Isn't he behind a curtain?

(23:31):
Not a real guy? He's behind a curtain. It wasn't
there that movie that was James Franco was Oz? Did
you see that one? As like the OZ origin story? Oh,
I don't know. James Franco. Is he still canceled by
the way I think so.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I think he's kind of trying to get uncanceled by saying, oh, no,
I was doing bad things, but it's because I'm hurt inside.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
It's like, yeah, every other villain's hurt inside. You you're
BRONI that's sad because I really like James Franco as
an actor. Like the interview Did you watch the interview
that's him with Seth Rogen And that's the one where
Eminem shows up and talks about being gay, just like flippantly,
and it like went viral. Like he's sitting there and

(24:12):
he's just like, yeah, I figured people would know that
I was gay by listening to the songs. What's going
on right now? So James Franco's character, it's really funny, James,
it's comedy. James Franco character is like he's an interviewer.
He's like Larry King, except he's a much younger, dapper guy,

(24:33):
and he gets these high profile interviews and Eminem is
on the show. It's like, this is our introduction to
his show. Is he's interviewing Eminem, high profile guy, and
Eminem just happens to like say, yeah, I've been writing
these songs and you know, I'm gay, so you know,
it's just like he just kind of like sprinkles it
in there and James Franco it's the meme where James
Franko's like, wait, what what did you say? What did

(24:55):
you just say? And he's like, I'm gay. I thought
it was obvious by my music, which is hilarious because
if you look Eminem's music, there's nothing about.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
That, right And and I'm sure that was his about
face on the whole thing, because you know, he had
some he had some things that got some people upset
at one point.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, there's a lot more than it was funny. I
laughed a lot. Okay, the point is I laughed a lot.
That movie is funny, and the whole premise of the
movie is seth Rogan, his agent gets him booked to
do an interview with Kim Jong Un in North Korea,
which is a dangerous thing. I'm sure nobody in North
Korea has actually seen this movie.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
For obvious, Dennis Rodman went out and made it look
like look like cheesecake. You know, he just is like
Dennis Robin, just swilling around out there, twelve beers deep,
just hanging out with Kim Jong Un.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I think Kim just really likes Dennis Rodman. I'll be honest.
He wanted a.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Party, party with Dennis Rodman. I would love love to
see those tapes. No, do you know he tried to
You know, he did right, and so his handlers probably
slipped him like some some Shirley Temples and said, this
is what Dennis is drinking. I bet that's what That's
what had to happen. There's no way he's keeping up
with Dennis.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
What do you think happened? I want to know. I
don't know, man, it's crazy anyway. The Odds, The Great
and Powerful. That's the movie twenty thirteen that Fames Franco
was in with. It was about Oz. I liked it
and the chicken. It is me Lacunis Zach Brafts in
that too, So there you go, hey, we got the movies.
Can we uncancel James Franco just so I can say
I like his movies? Or am I just am id

(26:24):
the minority of that? I don't know, I would look
into it. Don't don't pull myself there. There's so many
Oz things like like Wicked, Oz, The Great and Powerful,
the Wizard of Oz that the books, Like I wonder
if L. Frank Baum is like looking down on us
from the great beyond. It's just like, oh, why didn't
I think of that? Like darn, why didn't I like

(26:47):
build upon my own world. Oh you mean like make
another movie of it, or you know, just like write
another book kind of expanding on those characters and all
that stuff. But yeah, I don't know. Anyway. Uh, By
the way, The Great and Powerful that's a Disney movie.
James Franco was in with me Lacunis, and it made
almost five hundred million dollars in the box office. Dang,

(27:08):
that was actually a bigger movie than I thought it was. Anyway,
there you go, congratulations to him. Uh five forty nine.
I don't know why we just talked about this, but
you know what, I'm going to the Supernova's game then
I guess I'm just a little spacey. We'll finish the show,
and I got tickets to give away coming up on
news radio eleven ten kfab What did you say? I
just didn't think he could put off being demonstrative. Demonstrative
like Oz. He's a wonderful wisdard of Oz in the

(27:30):
Wicked movie, The wonder Whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
What I feel like the things that people appreciate about
Jeff Goldblum is generally that he's not demonstrative, that he's
a little bit that he's a little bit nuanced, he's
a little bit understated.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, I can't see him going around yelling all the time.
Doctor Ian Malcolm, which is his character in the Jurassic
Park movies, is exactly what you're saying. He's swave in
a way that you know, it's just kind of like,
I kind of like this guy. Yeah, he's a little
snaky in that he kind of operates there. He's also
an Independence Day He's like a fighter pilot, right him

(28:05):
and Will Smith gonna take the aliens out. I like
me some Jeff goldbloom in Independence Day, which, by the way,
excellent movie. We need to I need to rewatch that one.
That's that's been a while for me. Have you seen
that movie like the mid nineties and h what's this face?
Randy Quaid Yep. Uncle Eddie is like, hey boys, I'm back,

(28:29):
and it runs right into the mothership and blows him up.
Oh what a hero. Sorry a spoiler alert for a
movie that's almost thirty years old. You should have known better.
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