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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The number one thing that people are talking about nationally
is still this jerry mandering thing. You think we covered
enough of that yesterday. I feel like I hit about
every possible angle. We even did the map draw of Nebraska,
learned about how much bigger District three is than the
other districts.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It seems like a problem that's not gonna go away
because it could be beneficial to either side based on
who's empower and who can do the mandering. Ooh, right,
the mandering, right, which Jerry's doing the mandering? Oh but right?
I mean you could bolt the districts down and make
them unchangeable. But then when demographics change, that doesn't seem fair.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So it doesn't really do Yeah, it doesn't make sense
if you have actual legitimate changes in population. Right, But
this is the thing when you have gigantic all right,
So we talked about how pretty equal our three districts
are in population, even though the sizes are seemly different. Yeah,
but that's the whole point, right, You're warning you're you're
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drawing the map about the people, not necessarily about the places.
But when you have a place like Texas, which is
so highly populated, or California, highly populated, and there's so
many different metropolitan areas, and you can really start to
manipulate what the map looks like. You can slice Dallas
into like, uh, you know, six pieces of pizza or something,
and then just like pan it out into more suburban
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and more rural. You could absolutely change how the voting
would go. But the Democrats have done that in Texas too.
I was reading about, you know, them redrawing the map
when they had opportunities to do that in the past.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So you know, it's like.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And then and then just how do you how do
you respond? Right, it's just as much as like, do
we do we tell Illinois that they have to deport
these Texas Democrats who are up there protesting or or
what like, what are you going to do Illinois? Texas
going to invade Illinois because they're harboring the Democrats or
do they advocate their responsibilities? And we have to have
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special elections to fill those seats. But even when that happen,
and it's just like okay, but is that going to
really solve this problem? How long will it take? It
feels like we have a bunch of holes in this
and it can't be easily resolved the way that it
is now because you need a certain number of people
to have a quorum, and that's what they're doing. Them's
are just like it just bolted, so they can't have
a korum. You can't actually take a vote on anything
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while they're not there.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, that's how you take a stand if you feel
like the terms are unfair. If you leave it to
the people to do the mandering, they're always going to
mander in their own favor. So maybe we should just
you know, maybe you could get that chat bot going.
Can I just tell people what I'm calling her? Yeah,
I would. I would posit that it's an it. It's
(02:40):
an assistant. It's a digital robotic assistant. Yeah, my aggregate
of information. It reminds me of that man that seems healthy. Yeah,
it's just like, hey, keep in mind, I'm not a
real person. Did they have like a calendar, like a
set reminder like at three thirty two every day? Just
a daily I'm not a real person. He wanted to.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You can tell it to do that for you if
you're having problems with it. Look, and I have the
map again in front of me, and the Mandarin and
the whatnot, what state I mean, like, it just doesn't
matter as much when you have smaller states, Right, I
was thinking about this. I had the person that emailed
in yesterday and said, if if the Republicans get away
with this, right and they get the five additional seats
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that they're looking for, that's going to make it like
eighty percent Republican in their delegation in Washington win. Only
fifty six percent of Texas voted in favor of Donald Trump.
The only reason that this is an argument that I
don't think is a good one is, well, how do
you explain Iowa or Nebraska one hundred percent of our
delegation is Republican. The people spoke like they voted that
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to be the case. In Iowa, there's six of them.
In Nebraska, there's five of them, they're all Republicans. Well,
obviously Donald Trump didn't win one hundred percent to zero.
So there's a flaw in that argument. It really is.
But you know, it's just I just don't know how
to like, there's no real easy way to resolve this,
except the fact that I was reading about Iowa. They
have a commission that is nonpartisan that helps draw those maps.
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So they're trying to make it make sense. Iowa, it's
all whole counties. There's not a county that's split in half.
You know what I'm saying. It's very like it's a whole.
Like if you're in Polk County, which is the Des
Moines County, you are in a district. Nobody is split
out of that district. That makes sense. You know, all
ninety nine counties are in a district. We didn't try
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to split them into weird little lines.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That was the one thing that coming away from yesterday
looking at the districts in Nebraska just how like it
was split right, so you could line is not as
straight as you'd like it to be. Maybe, but again
with less people right, the population still checks out. It's
just how you're drawing the line. Like we talked about,
you could really start manipulating that if you wanted to.
If you're Nebraska, if the people figured out, hey we
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need to readraw these lines, and you wanted to make
it as beneficial for Republicans as possible. With the Don
Bacon seat coming up with no incumbent, he split Omaha
kind of into two pieces, there's a chance that maybe
you could increase the odds of a Republican winning that
seat again. But you know, like, is that the right
thing to do? You know what it reminds me of.
(05:19):
It reminds me of an old three Stooges short again again,
yes again. So they're sitting down to dinner, Larry Moe
and Curly not Shemp, not Shmp. Shemp was off to
a movie career at this time, not Debtlift Shrimp right,
not debtlift Shemp. So they're sitting down to dinner, right,
(05:40):
and Moe is divvying things out because, as he would be,
he's the leader. They just do what Moe says and
they hope he's equitable. Well, in this case, he told
him he was being equitable, but he wasn't. Curly was
upset at the portion he got, but Moe explained it
to him this way. He said, Curly, I got half
a piece of ham and half a steak. You got
a whole bone, a whole eggshell, and you're squawking. That's
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what he said. He said, you're squawking. I'm tired of
all this squawking. Well, what ended up happening is Curly
bit down on the bone, busted his tooth and then
kept them awake. All night moaning and growning because his
tooth hurt. So eventually they put a stick of dynamite
in there, and that didn't help, and you know, a
whole bunch of hijinks ensued. But you see what happens
when you try to you know, let's face it, Moe
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was telling Curly he was being equitable, but he rearranged
the districts as such the way it made it seem
like he was you know, he got a whole bone,
a whole eggshell. Well, I don't know, how can we
avoid less toothaches. I'm trying here to do the impossible,
to make the three stooges find a solution for our
current twenty twenty five problems. I've been doing that a
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lot hasn't worked out so far. Hey, you know who
I could ask to try to like fill in the gaps.
I don't even feel like I need to say. But anyway,
every ten years, apparently after we do a census, the
redraw occurs here in Nebraska from our non partisan legislature
that we call the unicameral nonpartisan. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It's done by the Redistricting Committee, made up of state
senators who are non Potterson of course, because it's the
unicameral wink wink, and they do the best they can
have many as equal number of the three congressional districts
of the members in that committee, and they're trying to
keep it politically balanced. And yeah, so I guess we
have to wait until the next census for them to
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redraw the maps.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's not going to help them in twenty six. Every
state has their own.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Rules, which, once again, ladies and gentlemen, states rights is great,
but man, it really makes it difficult for us to
learn about what's going on in other states because all
the rules are different. The election rules are different, the
gerrymandering rules, the redistricting rules are different. The people in
charge make things harder on the other side. And is
that good? Probably not. Is it legal? Probably? It's tough
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because the very part is in Texas legislature can basically
readraw these maps whenever they want.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Sounds like so and again the Democrats have done the
exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I don't know, I don't know. What do we do?
What do we do with ourselves?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Once again, I feel like I've tackled this from about
every conceivable angle, except we just haven't quite nailed that
three stooges solution, but you know, maybe it will work
on it. We'll see if we can. Maybe we can
get Millard fillmore involved somehow. He's probably been involved in
some jerry mandering in his day.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Maybe goats, Maybe goats can give us a lesson on this.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Goats. Yeah, people use goats for stuff, yoga, eating stuff,
eating tires. Yeah, I don't know. Goat Goats are interesting animals.
They pretty much like to eat anything. That's what I hear.
Goat milk. Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, there you go. Seventeen jerry mandering. Your latest jerry
mandering lesson brought to you by Jerry and the Manders,
great band from the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I check it out. What do you think think Beach
Boys inspired? Are we thinking more kind of now?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm thinking like like knockoff TEAMU?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Bill Haley? Okay, that's kind of That's kind of what
I was thinking, Bill Haley. Who would you say, Bill Haley?
What did you say? I said, Bill Haley? Bill Haley?
Is that not a real guy? Is this one of
those things I should pretend like I know what you said? Yeah,
Bill Haley? Bill Haley in the comments. Okay, yeah, shake,
rattle and roll. Yeah, I didn't make this up. Hey, look,
this is another example among many of references I don't
(09:28):
get because apparently I live under a rock.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
To Tamu Bill Haley, that's Jerry and the Manders. There
you go, It's seventeen News Radio eleventh in KFAB and
raise songer. You know what I could also do is
have my AI assistant create a couple of major songs
written and performed by Jerry and the Manders, the TU
version of Bill Haley and his comments circa nineteen fifty six,
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and see what that would have sounded like. You know,
this is what I want AI to do for me. Now,
everybody who actually makes music out there is like.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Don't do it. Don't tell it to make music. This
is what we want to keep out of our artificial intelligence. Yeah,
but when you go to the open mic later and
you shout at the guy on stage to tell me
what Tamu Bill Haley would sound like he can't do it. No, Jerry,
Jerry and the Manders. Yeah, give me some Jerry and
the Manders. Please.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Okay, this is what I want my life. If do
I ask for too much. I like doing this radio stuff.
It's great. But let me just be like an executive
at a network, a network that has like news channels
and TV sitcoms and a record label, and I get
to just throw stuff against the wall like this. Could
you imagine if we did like a satirical Happy Days remake,
(10:44):
except instead of it being like really like legitimate nineteen fifties,
it's all like kind of in a joking manner and
it surrounds like mockumentary style Jerry and the Manders.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That sounds like t move family guy exactly, Like can
we just do that? Like is there a way I
could do that? And then you know, like did you
watch that thing you do? The movie? That thing you do?
All that's right where they form a band and it
actually made some pretty good music. Yes, I believe it's
the bass player of that band. He actually has his
own band in real life that's really good. Well, carry
(11:16):
Me Ohio is one of his songs. Check it out.
It's great either way.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That that band in the movie, right, like fake band,
totally made up. They're called the Wonders. Okay, totally made up.
But man, that soundtrack slaps so hard, so hard. Yeah,
I'm just saying we could do that. You've got to
get a couple of like songwriter types to help with
the songs, because the songs can't stink. If you're doing
like a monumentary about a band from the nineteen fifties,
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they have to be pretty solid nineteen fifty style songs,
you know what I mean? There you go, Jerry and
the Manders is really funny. Yeah. So I'm doing some
recon on the twenty twenty one redraw of the Nebraska districts,
trying to make this Texas thing. Yeah thing, Matt, I'm
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gonna I'm gonna flip this around. I'm gonna show you
what this second congressional district looked like and what it
looks like now and and why. Okay, so so the
Democrats proposed lines, and then what the current lines are.
This is this is this is why I have my
assistant do this for me. Look at how the Democrats
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wanted it, right, like like the second congressional district would
be a bit larger, right, and then you know, like
where Sarpi and Douglas are, and then the Republicans the
current lines it's much smaller, but the numbers still worked out. Okay, right,
it was still balanced. I don't exactly know how you
draw those lines. Get the lines to be that big,
(12:44):
that large considering where all the people are. You'd have
to get really creative and trying to make that all
super balanced, you know what I mean, like, like what
do you do with yourself?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
But when the majority to draw the lines, it's a
little bit unfair, is it?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Dope? Because the people elected those people. And again the
point in this, I'm speaking on Nebraska. I know more
about Nebraska's rules than Texas. Forgive me. I know Texas
they have a redistricting committee, but I don't know how
they assign people to that committee. If they had more
democratic representation, I certainly believe that they would not have
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come to this, the verdict that they have come to,
to give five additional seats essentially to the GOP. How
Nebraska works, though, is all three districts have an equal
number of people on the redistricting committee, the state centers,
and the unicameral, and they're supposed to have close to
balanced political ideologies. Even though we don't have Republicans and Democrats.
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They're technically nonpartisan. They don't have political parties, even though
if you read about what these people do and hear
them talk, you can kind of figure out what side
that they laying on. So, yes, the map is quite
interesting with the Democrats wanted and what the Republicans wanted
and what ended up happening. The Republican line did what
I kind of suggested, splitting Douglas in half, putting a
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lot of Omaha in the first congressional district, which could
have split up what this blue dot looks like. But
this isn't just a big deal for you know, Omaha
in for that district, you know what it is. It's
also huge for the presidential election because we still have
districts make those decisions. It's not winner take all, you
know what I'm saying. So Nebraska, I think it even
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because the single electoral votes could end up going the
other direction. You could make the argument that it's even
more important when jerrymandering or redistricting occurs, and it has to,
I mean, it really does. Jerry Mandering is kind of
the colloquial term for it being used for political purposes.
But you do have to redraw the map. A people
number is going to change, no matter, like every census
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is going to change. You know, you're gonna have to
draw the map, redraw the map in those lines every
single ten years. But that's the thing is, like they
do it every ten years, that's the rule. So you
have to redraw the map every ten years. Correct, But
you can't just redraw the map whenever you want, like
right now. It would be a great time for the
Republicans if they wanted to get frisky, to redraw that
map and try to put that split in Douglas County.
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To get half of Omaha in a different district makes
it harder for a Democrat to win, even if it
is super sketch. There's a redistricting like group that does
this from a nonpartisan, like redraws the line in Iowa, nonpartisan,
which is kind of interesting. I don't know how you
can legislate that, even though you know the Democrats wanted
to get mad that Potawatami County got pulled out of
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the third congressional district in Iowa and moved into a
much more hardcore red district, and you could say that it.
People in Texas are saying, you're silencing my vote, You're
making my vote not matter as much because you're basically
playing with what district I am I am living in well,
and that's.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
The way a Democrat would feel in the what is
it District three in Nebraska?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Right, Yeah, you're just you're out there, right, or District
two or District one, depending on where the lines get drawn. Right.
But it's all about where people live, and then it's
up to the committee to draw the lines. But because
we've self jerry mannered ourselves to where more liberal people
are living in the cities like Omaha, Lincoln, Des Moines,
Cedar Rapids, and more conservative people are living in the
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burbs or they're living in the rural areas, it becomes
a lot easier just to kind of guestimate where you
should draw the lines if you're trying to make it
more beneficial for one party or the other. Both parties
are doing this. It's not like it's just one side.
It's just you know, getting a lot of headlines in
spotlights because of what Texas is doing right now, and
they just happen to be Republican control in California is saying, hey,
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we'll just answer by doing the same thing over here,
and we'll find a way to redraw the lines to
where we have five additional democratic seats over here. And
if that's what they end up doing, then, I mean,
who's to say other states that don't have like the
rules in playces like we can't do anything until twenty
three one in Nebraska. But who's to say the other
states that have the ability to just redraw can just
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start messing with it too. This becomes the new thing
that all these state legislatures are going to do because
they want to copycat each other. And if you're like
some random state senator from Idaho, you know, like, are
you like, do you see this as an opportunity for
you to get your name in the news. I mean,
of course you do. This is why sometimes ladies and
gentlemen politically and for politics, you just have to roll
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your eyes, take it with the great AsSalt and understand
this is what the people do. You know what we
could do instead? Watch the Three Stooges. It's two twenty
nine on news radio eleven to ten kfab and raise songer.
We're just gonna build me a playlist real quick.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Well these days I use YouTube music and same same
by the way, same same ze, samezse. I just kind
of what's been happening to me recently, I'll find a
song that just kind OF's hitting you. Yeah, it's just
it's just the right place, right time. And then I'll
just kind of let that build its own playlist around it.
So I'll just let it keep rolling and it'll go
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to songs like it. It'll but then it'll mix in
it knows me well, so it'll mix in other artists
that I like that are similar to.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
These songs that you already know, you know that are similar. Okay,
So I did this, okay, and I'll talk about this.
By the way, I'm gonna speak with the Iowa State
Fair starts on Thursday. They've taken on a lot of
storm damage for the last couple of weeks. I'm gonna
have the CEO on at the top of the three
o'clock hour to kind of preview some of this stuff.
But for now, okay, So here here you go, right. Oh,
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and I have tickets to the the Resca Balloon and
Wine Festival that I'm gonna give away soon too. So, Matt,
I was listening to a song. Is there a genre
or like a type of song that really like speaks
to you. Sometimes I feel like I am incredibly susceptible
to getting in my feels for like two thousand and
four to two thousand and eight ish, like R and B.
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Ballady types, And I can just like loop a song
over and over and over again, just think to it,
just reflect to it, daydream to it. But when I'm
driving in the car and I just keep replaying that song,
I don't think really about the song as it's playing anymore.
Like I'm just like just find myself just thinking to it,
and i don't want the song to change because I'm
in such a good train of thought kind of thing,
and I just keep replaying the song. I got some examples, okay,
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and I built with the help of my AI assistant,
I built a playlist of twenty songs that can get
me through, like twenty songs to an hour and a
half two hours, almost depending on how long.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Those songs are. And it started with a song called
wait for You by Elliott Ya mean, are you familiar?
I would have to hear it to be sure, but
it doesn't strike a chord with me.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I'm not sure that he really only had the one
song major one hit wonder Energy. So there's that four
in the Morning by Gwen Stefani Give Mean Because of
You by Kelly Clarkson is another one. Stuff like that, right,
And I drew outside the lines a little bit, but
I just I found myself really getting in my feels
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and I was like, man, why haven't I built playlists
for my moods before? I named that my nostalgic reflection playlist,
because that's what it is, right, you know, it's my
nostalgic reflection playlist. And I needed it to be songs,
you know, like I already kind of knew, because the
whole point is not to pay attention to the song.
After a while, you're thinking, it's good, it's good.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Did you ever make anyone mixtapes or mix CDs back
when that was the thing, because we were on the
tail end of that still being a thing.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Oh, absolutely, yeah, I would. I would burn plenty of
CDs and put some cool songs on it. And that
was a really fun thing to do because you could
really you'd really think about it, and it would you
depend on the person, whether it was a friend or
a love interest or or whatever it was, or just
for yourself. Absolutely, So you're thinking about the songs you're
putting on. They're the ones that and the most fun
thing to do is finding songs that work really well together,
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that kind of flow into each other really well, and
stuff like that. You know, I think about the.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I've done that too, just like in why you know
it's like when you're in a band trying to come
up with a set list. Yeah, you want to you
want it to flow properly. I don't know, man, there
was something about that because you actually had to do
the work. It wasn't as easy as it's like, Hey,
any song that I want to go on this list
or this playlist or whatever, I can just like hit
a button and it's there. Back in the day, like
you had to think about it. You had to buy
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the song or were you one of those guys who
didn't necessarily buy the songs?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Statute delimitations might have to do some Google in make
sure you can't confirm or deny. I am familiar with
lime wire and napster. My computer about it right about it.
My computer got very aware of lime wire multiple times,
meaning that you put like thousands of viruses on it
on accident.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I didn't know that's what would happen. I got the
music I wanted, though, Hey, look, hey, look statute of limitations. Yeah,
I mean it's essentially what streaming is doing now. I
didn't mean to steal anything. I just wanted to listen
to the music I liked. There was just no good
way to do it. What do I look like a millionaire?
It was a dollar a song.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You paid a dollar. You would have to pay a.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Dollar for a song like on iTunes when we started
getting into streaming.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Oh yet, right, you have to pay a dollar a song.
It's like ten twelve bucks a CD. You know how
much music I like to listen to. I remember back
in the day you could go on Amazon Music and
you could like press play on the different songs on
an album. You get thirty seconds thirty seconds. Get those
thirty seconds. You might find a new song you like, but.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Then you need well it depends on what you were using.
But that would be like the teaser to get you
to buy buy the song or the album. Or maybe
maybe you were too cheap to do that, so you
just you really only want to do the thirty seconds,
or or even if you could only do the thirty seconds,
if you downloaded LimeWire to your PC back in the day,
you could put in what you were.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Looking for, and there was you just download that bad boy.
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's bad stuff to do, you know, looking back on
it now, we were rebels, real rebels. Our poor parents
had no idea. Just because everybody's doing it doesn't mean
it's right. I do it again though, if we got
put put back in the dark times, if they were like, yeah,
this isn't working, this music streaming thing isn't working. You
know we're gonna do We're gonna just go ahead and
siphon it all and lock it into albums. You have
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to buy the album if you want to listen to
the songs. Great for the musical artists, terrible for the
consumer at that point. And you want to know what
I think. I think i'd rebel. I think i'd create
the uprising. Yeah, I'm a I'm a fan of music. Communism,
sue me? Is that communism or is it? Is it
something else? I feel like it's communism, right, Like the
people who are producing don't actually get the benefits of
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their production. That's why you have to go on tour,
you know, like your tour has to hold you up. Now,
your music can't do it. You can't just become a
millionaire by nailing a song.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Right, Well, they just do it for the for the
love of the art form, and we all make the
same money. Right. They pay me five dollars for listening,
they pay you five dollars for playing the song. Yeah.
Maybe not communism, Maybe that's the wrong that was the
wrong term. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
All I know is that it's not a fair game
to the artist, and I get that. But I'm okay
fighting for that.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm not a musical artist for a reason. So if
any of those people need me to write a song
for them, I can't help you. You know what, I
can't help you with telling you what you need to
do for your tour so you can make a bunch
of money. Maybe I'll come see you alive. You know
who's come live to stir Cove? Simple plan, Okay, I'm
I'm so in.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I'm down. Who's coming with them? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
They were with some forty one last time I saw
him a couple of years ago. But uh, I think
they're the headliner. I think they're probably just doing whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be there, Matt,
I'm gonna be there. He's gonna be there, folks. You
know why because I want to see them. I like
the music, he likes the music. What do you want
from You know how much I've paid Simple Plan for
their music directly in my life, collectively zero dollars. And
you know who else is going to be there? Folks?
Who bowling for soup? Huh? Okay, they're opening for a
(24:34):
Simple Plan. Get a little bit of bowling for soup
with you? Really?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Why not? Is that really? Who's opening for them? Yeah? Yeah?
And there's two other bands, but I don't recognize them.
Three O three threeh three opening for Simple Plan and
Lo Low. I don't know. It looks like I don't
know who Lo Lo is three oh three. Yeah, they're okay,
they're pretty high profile for like the first of openers. Wow,
no Fountains of Wayne, but you know, pretty good lineup. Yeah,
(25:01):
it seems like you could have worked Fountains of Wayne
in there. I mean, if you're going for bowlings a
soup and Simple Plan, you might as well. It's puling
for soup hadding more hits than Fountains of Wayne, Right,
But I'm just thinking, like you want to you want
to balance out this ticket? You get some fountains of Wayne.
Stacy's mom does have it going on from what I
hear
The number one thing that people are talking about nationally
is still this jerry mandering thing. You think we covered
enough of that yesterday. I feel like I hit about
every possible angle. We even did the map draw of Nebraska,
learned about how much bigger District three is than the
other districts.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It seems like a problem that's not gonna go away
because it could be beneficial to either side based on
who's empower and who can do the mandering. Ooh, right,
the mandering, right, which Jerry's doing the mandering? Oh but right?
I mean you could bolt the districts down and make
them unchangeable. But then when demographics change, that doesn't seem fair.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So it doesn't really do Yeah, it doesn't make sense
if you have actual legitimate changes in population. Right, But
this is the thing when you have gigantic all right,
So we talked about how pretty equal our three districts
are in population, even though the sizes are seemly different. Yeah,
but that's the whole point, right, You're warning you're you're
(01:03):
drawing the map about the people, not necessarily about the places.
But when you have a place like Texas, which is
so highly populated, or California, highly populated, and there's so
many different metropolitan areas, and you can really start to
manipulate what the map looks like. You can slice Dallas
into like, uh, you know, six pieces of pizza or something,
and then just like pan it out into more suburban
(01:24):
and more rural. You could absolutely change how the voting
would go. But the Democrats have done that in Texas too.
I was reading about, you know, them redrawing the map
when they had opportunities to do that in the past.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So you know, it's like.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And then and then just how do you how do
you respond? Right, it's just as much as like, do
we do we tell Illinois that they have to deport
these Texas Democrats who are up there protesting or or
what like, what are you going to do Illinois? Texas
going to invade Illinois because they're harboring the Democrats or
do they advocate their responsibilities? And we have to have
(01:57):
special elections to fill those seats. But even when that happen,
and it's just like okay, but is that going to
really solve this problem? How long will it take? It
feels like we have a bunch of holes in this
and it can't be easily resolved the way that it
is now because you need a certain number of people
to have a quorum, and that's what they're doing. Them's
are just like it just bolted, so they can't have
a korum. You can't actually take a vote on anything
(02:18):
while they're not there.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, that's how you take a stand if you feel
like the terms are unfair. If you leave it to
the people to do the mandering, they're always going to
mander in their own favor. So maybe we should just
you know, maybe you could get that chat bot going.
Can I just tell people what I'm calling her? Yeah,
I would. I would posit that it's an it. It's
(02:40):
an assistant. It's a digital robotic assistant. Yeah, my aggregate
of information. It reminds me of that man that seems healthy. Yeah,
it's just like, hey, keep in mind, I'm not a
real person. Did they have like a calendar, like a
set reminder like at three thirty two every day? Just
a daily I'm not a real person. He wanted to.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You can tell it to do that for you if
you're having problems with it. Look, and I have the
map again in front of me, and the Mandarin and
the whatnot, what state I mean, like, it just doesn't
matter as much when you have smaller states, Right, I
was thinking about this. I had the person that emailed
in yesterday and said, if if the Republicans get away
with this, right and they get the five additional seats
(03:24):
that they're looking for, that's going to make it like
eighty percent Republican in their delegation in Washington win. Only
fifty six percent of Texas voted in favor of Donald Trump.
The only reason that this is an argument that I
don't think is a good one is, well, how do
you explain Iowa or Nebraska one hundred percent of our
delegation is Republican. The people spoke like they voted that
(03:47):
to be the case. In Iowa, there's six of them.
In Nebraska, there's five of them, they're all Republicans. Well,
obviously Donald Trump didn't win one hundred percent to zero.
So there's a flaw in that argument. It really is.
But you know, it's just I just don't know how
to like, there's no real easy way to resolve this,
except the fact that I was reading about Iowa. They
have a commission that is nonpartisan that helps draw those maps.
(04:09):
So they're trying to make it make sense. Iowa, it's
all whole counties. There's not a county that's split in half.
You know what I'm saying. It's very like it's a whole.
Like if you're in Polk County, which is the Des
Moines County, you are in a district. Nobody is split
out of that district. That makes sense. You know, all
ninety nine counties are in a district. We didn't try
(04:32):
to split them into weird little lines.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That was the one thing that coming away from yesterday
looking at the districts in Nebraska just how like it
was split right, so you could line is not as
straight as you'd like it to be. Maybe, but again
with less people right, the population still checks out. It's
just how you're drawing the line. Like we talked about,
you could really start manipulating that if you wanted to.
If you're Nebraska, if the people figured out, hey we
(04:57):
need to readraw these lines, and you wanted to make
it as beneficial for Republicans as possible. With the Don
Bacon seat coming up with no incumbent, he split Omaha
kind of into two pieces, there's a chance that maybe
you could increase the odds of a Republican winning that
seat again. But you know, like, is that the right
thing to do? You know what it reminds me of.
(05:19):
It reminds me of an old three Stooges short again again,
yes again. So they're sitting down to dinner, Larry Moe
and Curly not Shemp, not Shmp. Shemp was off to
a movie career at this time, not Debtlift Shrimp right,
not debtlift Shemp. So they're sitting down to dinner, right,
(05:40):
and Moe is divvying things out because, as he would be,
he's the leader. They just do what Moe says and
they hope he's equitable. Well, in this case, he told
him he was being equitable, but he wasn't. Curly was
upset at the portion he got, but Moe explained it
to him this way. He said, Curly, I got half
a piece of ham and half a steak. You got
a whole bone, a whole eggshell, and you're squawking. That's
(06:03):
what he said. He said, you're squawking. I'm tired of
all this squawking. Well, what ended up happening is Curly
bit down on the bone, busted his tooth and then
kept them awake. All night moaning and growning because his
tooth hurt. So eventually they put a stick of dynamite
in there, and that didn't help, and you know, a
whole bunch of hijinks ensued. But you see what happens
when you try to you know, let's face it, Moe
(06:26):
was telling Curly he was being equitable, but he rearranged
the districts as such the way it made it seem
like he was you know, he got a whole bone,
a whole eggshell. Well, I don't know, how can we
avoid less toothaches. I'm trying here to do the impossible,
to make the three stooges find a solution for our
current twenty twenty five problems. I've been doing that a
(06:47):
lot hasn't worked out so far. Hey, you know who
I could ask to try to like fill in the gaps.
I don't even feel like I need to say. But anyway,
every ten years, apparently after we do a census, the
redraw occurs here in Nebraska from our non partisan legislature
that we call the unicameral nonpartisan. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It's done by the Redistricting Committee, made up of state
senators who are non Potterson of course, because it's the
unicameral wink wink, and they do the best they can
have many as equal number of the three congressional districts
of the members in that committee, and they're trying to
keep it politically balanced. And yeah, so I guess we
have to wait until the next census for them to
(07:32):
redraw the maps.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's not going to help them in twenty six. Every
state has their own.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Rules, which, once again, ladies and gentlemen, states rights is great,
but man, it really makes it difficult for us to
learn about what's going on in other states because all
the rules are different. The election rules are different, the
gerrymandering rules, the redistricting rules are different. The people in
charge make things harder on the other side. And is
that good? Probably not. Is it legal? Probably? It's tough
(07:58):
because the very part is in Texas legislature can basically
readraw these maps whenever they want.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Sounds like so and again the Democrats have done the
exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I don't know, I don't know. What do we do?
What do we do with ourselves?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Once again, I feel like I've tackled this from about
every conceivable angle, except we just haven't quite nailed that
three stooges solution, but you know, maybe it will work
on it. We'll see if we can. Maybe we can
get Millard fillmore involved somehow. He's probably been involved in
some jerry mandering in his day.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Maybe goats, Maybe goats can give us a lesson on this.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Goats. Yeah, people use goats for stuff, yoga, eating stuff,
eating tires. Yeah, I don't know. Goat Goats are interesting animals.
They pretty much like to eat anything. That's what I hear.
Goat milk. Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, there you go. Seventeen jerry mandering. Your latest jerry
mandering lesson brought to you by Jerry and the Manders,
great band from the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I check it out. What do you think think Beach
Boys inspired? Are we thinking more kind of now?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm thinking like like knockoff TEAMU?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Bill Haley? Okay, that's kind of That's kind of what
I was thinking, Bill Haley. Who would you say, Bill Haley?
What did you say? I said, Bill Haley? Bill Haley?
Is that not a real guy? Is this one of
those things I should pretend like I know what you said? Yeah,
Bill Haley? Bill Haley in the comments. Okay, yeah, shake,
rattle and roll. Yeah, I didn't make this up. Hey, look,
this is another example among many of references I don't
(09:28):
get because apparently I live under a rock.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
To Tamu Bill Haley, that's Jerry and the Manders. There
you go, It's seventeen News Radio eleventh in KFAB and
raise songer. You know what I could also do is
have my AI assistant create a couple of major songs
written and performed by Jerry and the Manders, the TU
version of Bill Haley and his comments circa nineteen fifty six,
(09:54):
and see what that would have sounded like. You know,
this is what I want AI to do for me. Now,
everybody who actually makes music out there is like.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Don't do it. Don't tell it to make music. This
is what we want to keep out of our artificial intelligence. Yeah,
but when you go to the open mic later and
you shout at the guy on stage to tell me
what Tamu Bill Haley would sound like he can't do it. No, Jerry,
Jerry and the Manders. Yeah, give me some Jerry and
the Manders. Please.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Okay, this is what I want my life. If do
I ask for too much. I like doing this radio stuff.
It's great. But let me just be like an executive
at a network, a network that has like news channels
and TV sitcoms and a record label, and I get
to just throw stuff against the wall like this. Could
you imagine if we did like a satirical Happy Days remake,
(10:44):
except instead of it being like really like legitimate nineteen fifties,
it's all like kind of in a joking manner and
it surrounds like mockumentary style Jerry and the Manders.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That sounds like t move family guy exactly, Like can
we just do that? Like is there a way I
could do that? And then you know, like did you
watch that thing you do? The movie? That thing you do?
All that's right where they form a band and it
actually made some pretty good music. Yes, I believe it's
the bass player of that band. He actually has his
own band in real life that's really good. Well, carry
(11:16):
Me Ohio is one of his songs. Check it out.
It's great either way.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That that band in the movie, right, like fake band,
totally made up. They're called the Wonders. Okay, totally made up.
But man, that soundtrack slaps so hard, so hard. Yeah,
I'm just saying we could do that. You've got to
get a couple of like songwriter types to help with
the songs, because the songs can't stink. If you're doing
like a monumentary about a band from the nineteen fifties,
(11:40):
they have to be pretty solid nineteen fifty style songs,
you know what I mean? There you go, Jerry and
the Manders is really funny. Yeah. So I'm doing some
recon on the twenty twenty one redraw of the Nebraska districts,
trying to make this Texas thing. Yeah thing, Matt, I'm
(12:01):
gonna I'm gonna flip this around. I'm gonna show you
what this second congressional district looked like and what it
looks like now and and why. Okay, so so the
Democrats proposed lines, and then what the current lines are.
This is this is this is why I have my
assistant do this for me. Look at how the Democrats
(12:23):
wanted it, right, like like the second congressional district would
be a bit larger, right, and then you know, like
where Sarpi and Douglas are, and then the Republicans the
current lines it's much smaller, but the numbers still worked out. Okay, right,
it was still balanced. I don't exactly know how you
draw those lines. Get the lines to be that big,
(12:44):
that large considering where all the people are. You'd have
to get really creative and trying to make that all
super balanced, you know what I mean, like, like what
do you do with yourself?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
But when the majority to draw the lines, it's a
little bit unfair, is it?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Dope? Because the people elected those people. And again the
point in this, I'm speaking on Nebraska. I know more
about Nebraska's rules than Texas. Forgive me. I know Texas
they have a redistricting committee, but I don't know how
they assign people to that committee. If they had more
democratic representation, I certainly believe that they would not have
(13:23):
come to this, the verdict that they have come to,
to give five additional seats essentially to the GOP. How
Nebraska works, though, is all three districts have an equal
number of people on the redistricting committee, the state centers,
and the unicameral, and they're supposed to have close to
balanced political ideologies. Even though we don't have Republicans and Democrats.
(13:46):
They're technically nonpartisan. They don't have political parties, even though
if you read about what these people do and hear
them talk, you can kind of figure out what side
that they laying on. So, yes, the map is quite
interesting with the Democrats wanted and what the Republicans wanted
and what ended up happening. The Republican line did what
I kind of suggested, splitting Douglas in half, putting a
(14:09):
lot of Omaha in the first congressional district, which could
have split up what this blue dot looks like. But
this isn't just a big deal for you know, Omaha
in for that district, you know what it is. It's
also huge for the presidential election because we still have
districts make those decisions. It's not winner take all, you
know what I'm saying. So Nebraska, I think it even
(14:30):
because the single electoral votes could end up going the
other direction. You could make the argument that it's even
more important when jerrymandering or redistricting occurs, and it has to,
I mean, it really does. Jerry Mandering is kind of
the colloquial term for it being used for political purposes.
But you do have to redraw the map. A people
number is going to change, no matter, like every census
(14:53):
is going to change. You know, you're gonna have to
draw the map, redraw the map in those lines every
single ten years. But that's the thing is, like they
do it every ten years, that's the rule. So you
have to redraw the map every ten years. Correct, But
you can't just redraw the map whenever you want, like
right now. It would be a great time for the
Republicans if they wanted to get frisky, to redraw that
map and try to put that split in Douglas County.
(15:16):
To get half of Omaha in a different district makes
it harder for a Democrat to win, even if it
is super sketch. There's a redistricting like group that does
this from a nonpartisan, like redraws the line in Iowa, nonpartisan,
which is kind of interesting. I don't know how you
can legislate that, even though you know the Democrats wanted
to get mad that Potawatami County got pulled out of
(15:37):
the third congressional district in Iowa and moved into a
much more hardcore red district, and you could say that it.
People in Texas are saying, you're silencing my vote, You're
making my vote not matter as much because you're basically
playing with what district I am I am living in well,
and that's.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
The way a Democrat would feel in the what is
it District three in Nebraska?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Right, Yeah, you're just you're out there, right, or District
two or District one, depending on where the lines get drawn. Right.
But it's all about where people live, and then it's
up to the committee to draw the lines. But because
we've self jerry mannered ourselves to where more liberal people
are living in the cities like Omaha, Lincoln, Des Moines,
Cedar Rapids, and more conservative people are living in the
(16:19):
burbs or they're living in the rural areas, it becomes
a lot easier just to kind of guestimate where you
should draw the lines if you're trying to make it
more beneficial for one party or the other. Both parties
are doing this. It's not like it's just one side.
It's just you know, getting a lot of headlines in
spotlights because of what Texas is doing right now, and
they just happen to be Republican control in California is saying, hey,
(16:42):
we'll just answer by doing the same thing over here,
and we'll find a way to redraw the lines to
where we have five additional democratic seats over here. And
if that's what they end up doing, then, I mean,
who's to say other states that don't have like the
rules in playces like we can't do anything until twenty
three one in Nebraska. But who's to say the other
states that have the ability to just redraw can just
(17:02):
start messing with it too. This becomes the new thing
that all these state legislatures are going to do because
they want to copycat each other. And if you're like
some random state senator from Idaho, you know, like, are
you like, do you see this as an opportunity for
you to get your name in the news. I mean,
of course you do. This is why sometimes ladies and
gentlemen politically and for politics, you just have to roll
(17:23):
your eyes, take it with the great AsSalt and understand
this is what the people do. You know what we
could do instead? Watch the Three Stooges. It's two twenty
nine on news radio eleven to ten kfab and raise songer.
We're just gonna build me a playlist real quick.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Well these days I use YouTube music and same same
by the way, same same ze, samezse. I just kind
of what's been happening to me recently, I'll find a
song that just kind OF's hitting you. Yeah, it's just
it's just the right place, right time. And then I'll
just kind of let that build its own playlist around it.
So I'll just let it keep rolling and it'll go
(17:56):
to songs like it. It'll but then it'll mix in
it knows me well, so it'll mix in other artists
that I like that are similar to.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
These songs that you already know, you know that are similar. Okay,
So I did this, okay, and I'll talk about this.
By the way, I'm gonna speak with the Iowa State
Fair starts on Thursday. They've taken on a lot of
storm damage for the last couple of weeks. I'm gonna
have the CEO on at the top of the three
o'clock hour to kind of preview some of this stuff.
But for now, okay, So here here you go, right. Oh,
(18:22):
and I have tickets to the the Resca Balloon and
Wine Festival that I'm gonna give away soon too. So, Matt,
I was listening to a song. Is there a genre
or like a type of song that really like speaks
to you. Sometimes I feel like I am incredibly susceptible
to getting in my feels for like two thousand and
four to two thousand and eight ish, like R and B.
(18:46):
Ballady types, And I can just like loop a song
over and over and over again, just think to it,
just reflect to it, daydream to it. But when I'm
driving in the car and I just keep replaying that song,
I don't think really about the song as it's playing anymore.
Like I'm just like just find myself just thinking to it,
and i don't want the song to change because I'm
in such a good train of thought kind of thing,
and I just keep replaying the song. I got some examples, okay,
(19:11):
and I built with the help of my AI assistant,
I built a playlist of twenty songs that can get
me through, like twenty songs to an hour and a
half two hours, almost depending on how long.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Those songs are. And it started with a song called
wait for You by Elliott Ya mean, are you familiar?
I would have to hear it to be sure, but
it doesn't strike a chord with me.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I'm not sure that he really only had the one
song major one hit wonder Energy. So there's that four
in the Morning by Gwen Stefani Give Mean Because of
You by Kelly Clarkson is another one. Stuff like that, right,
And I drew outside the lines a little bit, but
I just I found myself really getting in my feels
(19:54):
and I was like, man, why haven't I built playlists
for my moods before? I named that my nostalgic reflection playlist,
because that's what it is, right, you know, it's my
nostalgic reflection playlist. And I needed it to be songs,
you know, like I already kind of knew, because the
whole point is not to pay attention to the song.
After a while, you're thinking, it's good, it's good.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Did you ever make anyone mixtapes or mix CDs back
when that was the thing, because we were on the
tail end of that still being a thing.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Oh, absolutely, yeah, I would. I would burn plenty of
CDs and put some cool songs on it. And that
was a really fun thing to do because you could
really you'd really think about it, and it would you
depend on the person, whether it was a friend or
a love interest or or whatever it was, or just
for yourself. Absolutely, So you're thinking about the songs you're
putting on. They're the ones that and the most fun
thing to do is finding songs that work really well together,
(20:42):
that kind of flow into each other really well, and
stuff like that. You know, I think about the.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I've done that too, just like in why you know
it's like when you're in a band trying to come
up with a set list. Yeah, you want to you
want it to flow properly. I don't know, man, there
was something about that because you actually had to do
the work. It wasn't as easy as it's like, Hey,
any song that I want to go on this list
or this playlist or whatever, I can just like hit
a button and it's there. Back in the day, like
you had to think about it. You had to buy
(21:08):
the song or were you one of those guys who
didn't necessarily buy the songs?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Statute delimitations might have to do some Google in make
sure you can't confirm or deny. I am familiar with
lime wire and napster. My computer about it right about it.
My computer got very aware of lime wire multiple times,
meaning that you put like thousands of viruses on it
on accident.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I didn't know that's what would happen. I got the
music I wanted, though, Hey, look, hey, look statute of limitations. Yeah,
I mean it's essentially what streaming is doing now. I
didn't mean to steal anything. I just wanted to listen
to the music I liked. There was just no good
way to do it. What do I look like a millionaire?
It was a dollar a song.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You paid a dollar. You would have to pay a.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Dollar for a song like on iTunes when we started
getting into streaming.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Oh yet, right, you have to pay a dollar a song.
It's like ten twelve bucks a CD. You know how
much music I like to listen to. I remember back
in the day you could go on Amazon Music and
you could like press play on the different songs on
an album. You get thirty seconds thirty seconds. Get those
thirty seconds. You might find a new song you like, but.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Then you need well it depends on what you were using.
But that would be like the teaser to get you
to buy buy the song or the album. Or maybe
maybe you were too cheap to do that, so you
just you really only want to do the thirty seconds,
or or even if you could only do the thirty seconds,
if you downloaded LimeWire to your PC back in the day,
you could put in what you were.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Looking for, and there was you just download that bad boy.
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's bad stuff to do, you know, looking back on
it now, we were rebels, real rebels. Our poor parents
had no idea. Just because everybody's doing it doesn't mean
it's right. I do it again though, if we got
put put back in the dark times, if they were like, yeah,
this isn't working, this music streaming thing isn't working. You
know we're gonna do We're gonna just go ahead and
siphon it all and lock it into albums. You have
(22:59):
to buy the album if you want to listen to
the songs. Great for the musical artists, terrible for the
consumer at that point. And you want to know what
I think. I think i'd rebel. I think i'd create
the uprising. Yeah, I'm a I'm a fan of music. Communism,
sue me? Is that communism or is it? Is it
something else? I feel like it's communism, right, Like the
people who are producing don't actually get the benefits of
(23:20):
their production. That's why you have to go on tour,
you know, like your tour has to hold you up. Now,
your music can't do it. You can't just become a
millionaire by nailing a song.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Right, Well, they just do it for the for the
love of the art form, and we all make the
same money. Right. They pay me five dollars for listening,
they pay you five dollars for playing the song. Yeah.
Maybe not communism, Maybe that's the wrong that was the
wrong term. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
All I know is that it's not a fair game
to the artist, and I get that. But I'm okay
fighting for that.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm not a musical artist for a reason. So if
any of those people need me to write a song
for them, I can't help you. You know what, I
can't help you with telling you what you need to
do for your tour so you can make a bunch
of money. Maybe I'll come see you alive. You know
who's come live to stir Cove? Simple plan, Okay, I'm
I'm so in.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I'm down. Who's coming with them? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
They were with some forty one last time I saw
him a couple of years ago. But uh, I think
they're the headliner. I think they're probably just doing whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be there, Matt,
I'm gonna be there. He's gonna be there, folks. You
know why because I want to see them. I like
the music, he likes the music. What do you want
from You know how much I've paid Simple Plan for
their music directly in my life, collectively zero dollars. And
you know who else is going to be there? Folks?
Who bowling for soup? Huh? Okay, they're opening for a
(24:34):
Simple Plan. Get a little bit of bowling for soup
with you? Really?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Why not? Is that really? Who's opening for them? Yeah? Yeah?
And there's two other bands, but I don't recognize them.
Three O three threeh three opening for Simple Plan and
Lo Low. I don't know. It looks like I don't
know who Lo Lo is three oh three. Yeah, they're okay,
they're pretty high profile for like the first of openers. Wow,
no Fountains of Wayne, but you know, pretty good lineup. Yeah,
(25:01):
it seems like you could have worked Fountains of Wayne
in there. I mean, if you're going for bowlings a
soup and Simple Plan, you might as well. It's puling
for soup hadding more hits than Fountains of Wayne, Right,
But I'm just thinking, like you want to you want
to balance out this ticket? You get some fountains of Wayne.
Stacy's mom does have it going on from what I
hear
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