Ghislaine Says ... NOTHING!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Some big news has been going on and dropping here
over the last fifteen minutes about Gallaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein,
and the list.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Or no list, if you will.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
And I have in front of me parts of the
transcript from the Department of Justice, who released the audio
of their interviews with Gallainne Maxwell, as well as the
actual full and I have to be honest, I have
not read all of what they have released to this point.
It's been released for all of about fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
But what I will say is that is there a list?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
According to Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche's interview with Gallainne Maxwell,
the answer is no. The answer is no, there is
actually no list. And she also said which Donald Trump,
the implication she never witnessed or heard an inappropriate or

(01:00):
criminal activity by President Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton,
or any other well known man associated with Jeffrey Epstein.
So what we heard four or five, six weeks ago whenever,

(01:25):
that was when the DOJ kind of squeezed in at
midnight on that Sunday into Monday. Remember that while Texas
was underwater, essentially just kind of slid it in there.
DJ said they found nothing about Epstein. There was no list,
there was no incriminating evidence against people of note, and

(01:47):
we should move on now after Hubbub, after a lot
of questions, and now after an interview with Deputy Attorney
General Todd Blanche Blaine, Maxwell says over a two day
interview session, there is no list, and none of the

(02:07):
big wigs that were allegedly on such lists were actually
not tied to, not witnessed of. There was no hearing
of inappropriate or criminal activity by any of them, and
that includes Trump, Clinton and anybody else that you've been
hearing about. So how did we get this so wrong

(02:31):
for so long? That is what I want to know?
Does this end our questioning?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Is?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I mean, this is the person that you would think
would know the most right glaide Maxwell, she's serving time
because of her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Now she does
say that she doesn't believe that he committed suicide, which
would be the one thing that differs from what the
DOJ said weeks ago when they had that little news

(03:02):
drop at like midnight. But I don't know, I feel
a little bit. This is gonna sound terrible. Are you
let down by this? I feel like we spent all
this time, all this energy and worrying and thinking about
this years, thinking about this, being told by this administration

(03:26):
they were going to get down to the bottom of it,
and then there was nothing to get down to the bottom.
Two and now Glene Maxwell, which maybe we should have
just done this in the first place, She says, Yeah,
the idea of the list was created.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
It wasn't actually a thing that existed.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
And none of these big important people, including Donald Trump,
including Bill Clinton, did anything criminal that I know of,
that I heard of, that I witnessed.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
How did we the binders binders? They gave binders.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
To those fifteen conservative influencers at the White House in
February and they're like, oh, this is the start of
what's to come. Here's a big binder, the first edition
of the Epstein files. But then they had nothing to
say about it, and now there's there's nothing like what
were even in those binders?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Was it like a picture book?

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't know. Scott helped me. What am I What
am I missing here?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
What?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
What?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
What are we doing wrong? What did we where did
we go wrong here?

Speaker 4 (04:35):
I hope that the number of victims that have come
out there and said, yeah, we were underage trafficked young women.
I hope that every single one of them is lying.
I only because I don't want for them to have
been victimized and abused, so saying, I hope that somehow
they just are. They've all been lying. If they're not well,

(04:59):
then somebody else is. Because for Jeffrey Epstein's madam associate
to come out and say, oh no, there was it
wasn't any of Epstein's big, high profile friends who were
doing all this stuff.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Well, these victims all.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Said, oh yeah, there was a train of people coming
through here all the time, high profile. I mean, it
wasn't if Epstein was bringing people to that area to
engage in that kind of horrible activity. It wasn't some
guy he happened to be standing next to at a
urinal at a football game. Oh hey, what's your name, really, Chad?
What are you doing this weekend? You know it? And

(05:35):
I don't hear this right, So so I don't believe that,
oh no, it wasn't any of these high profile, big
names and so forth. But I also think that some
of these guys. Trump, especially is one who has been
reportedly very very careful in his entire life since he's
been of celebrity status, which goes back almost fifty years.

(05:58):
He's been very careful not to be like alone in
a room with someone. He doesn't drink alcohol. He doesn't
I guess, do the wild party scene and so forth.
I'm not saying. And therefore, you know, next time they're
up for Pope, make sure you're I mean, the guy's
certainly not a saint, but based on what we've heard

(06:18):
about him, from that standpoint, it doesn't stand a reason.
He's like, yeah, yeah, let's go down here with a
bunch of incriminating eyes and do some of the most
horrible things. Ever, I'm not surprised that Trump's name would
not be on the list from that activity. I wouldn't
be surprised if he and Clinton and the rest of
these guys were on flights taking advantage of perks. But

(06:43):
someone's lying, and you're kind of have to figure out who.
And if you're one of those people who hates Donald Trump,
you already know you think you already know his line.
It's Trump. You know, this guy is the worst thing ever.
And of course he was doing that stuff well.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
And then the Clinton thing, right, everybody's just like, well,
Clinton's the obvious one.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Right, Oh, Democrats don't even care. They'll throw Clinton under
the bus today if it means they can get Trump.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Well, they don't care.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
But but but Clinton wasn't even apparently on the island.
It's in here, says she doesn't recall of ever seeing
Clinton on the island.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Right, Yeah, what happens if she says yeah, maybe you know,
then she gets Clinton. And if you're not familiar with
that verb, h ask any ask number of people asked
Vince Foster.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Ask ask Jeff he was there? Okay?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
No, seriously Apparently, according to sources, of the names that
were asked of their relationship with Epstein, Epstein and the island,
the flights, the flight logs, they were obviously Trump and Clinton,
but Bill Gates, Reid Hoffman, who's another billionaire, Elon Musk,

(07:52):
Iu Berrach Rfk Junior, George Mitchell, late US senator who
was connected to Epstein in different ways. Celebrities like Naomi Campbell,
Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
She said, hod Chris Tucker get that.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't know how did any of these people. I mean,
we know Spacey did some bad stuff.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
It's kind of an interesting but he at least, you know,
was had a lot of good starring roles over the
last you know that period.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Is actually famous during that time.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yeah yeah, and isn't annoying?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, yeah, it depends on who he asked these He's like, you.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Know who we want to have at this party, Chris Tucker.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, let's get, let's.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Get we need someone to be if the idea is
that all these guys might be involved or at least
no stuff, Let's get the loudest blabbermouth in Hollywood. Chris
Tuckery runs around yelling at full volume.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, those Rush Hour movies are actually pretty.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Good, are they?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Like?

Speaker 5 (08:47):
I haven't seen him?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Him and Jackie chan Man those are That's that's great
turn of the millennium action movies right there. Anyway, I
prefer Shanghai Noon, but also great Owen Wilson.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Can you watch both in the same movie, just a
different guy with Jackie chan Chris Tucker, Well, Owen.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Wilson, it's like the West in Chris Tucker, it's like
the city. So I guess it's probably close.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Anyway. I just don't know how Chris Tucker got that in.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, I know, Well, maybe he didn't That's what it
sounds like.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
You would mis read Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
No, it says Chris Tucker. But I mean Tucker Carlson
might have been asked about who knows? Uh, Chris Tucker Carlson,
Ted Cruz.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Can you hear the words coming out of my mouse?
How many people in Iran?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Chris oh Man. Uh? Yeah, Well there you go. This
is what we do.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
We tell you the news, and the news as far
as Gallaine Maxwell and the Jeffrey Epstein list and files,
is that there actually is no news.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
You seem really let down.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's just like, what do we know?

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Now?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Do we know anything? Does it matter? It does matter?

Speaker 5 (09:56):
How to who?

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Because everyone before you answer, last thing, I'll say for
the next couple seconds, no one believes facts anymore. They
only believe that which they want to believe.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
You're right.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
So they could come out with pictures and video and
the people who either love or hate Trump would just say, ah,
that's AI or or anyone which hu right.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, also, who I'll get to this and I'll take
a break here, but who instigated us? Still talking about
this years later, and it was Donald J. Trump and
his administration and the people he was campaigning with They
were talking about it in debates, they were talking about
on the campaign trail. We are going to get to
the bottom of these files, that list of Jeffrey Epstein,

(10:38):
and we are going to go after anyone that's involved.
They said it all the way through until six weeks
ago when they didn't.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
And now I just what was the point?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
What was the point to eighteen more coming up on
news radio eleven ten kfab and raised here, we don't
have to spend too much time on the Gallaine Maxwell
situation because there's just no news in it. We any
anything that we thought we were being told. And I'm
just gonna finish this. We had Jeffrey Epstein died. Do

(11:14):
you remember when he died Scott Voorhes three years ago?
Try six no agist of twenty nineteen. Wow, and you
had a very important question of well, why do we
care about this at all?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Other than the victims?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
What do we care about this for Gleaine has been
sentenced and incarcerated for the last five years. Okay, now
she's getting a bit of her deal, redone because she
was willing to talk and have this all recorded and everything.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
But today she says there is no list.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
There is no incriminating evidence or any criminal activity that
she witnessed or heard of by Donald Trump, Bill Clinton,
or any other notable person that you thought you heard
about that was involved here. But my big point as
to why we care, the only reason why we care
is because people who in the circles of Donald Trump

(12:18):
used that as well. The deep state is covering this
stuff up to protect the people of Congress, to protect
former presidents. They're they're they're taking this information, they're burying
it underground because they don't want you, the American people,
to know exactly what happened there. And yeah, you want
to know why Jeffrey Epstein was killed, Well that's why too.

(12:42):
He was gonna talk, he was going to do what
it took for him to get a plea deal. Well,
when he was dead, no more plea deal. Huh, can
in criminal anybody now? Jeffrey Well, remember he committed suicide.
The DOJ Pam Bondi said weeks ago when they said,
well we did actually find a list, and we said

(13:03):
that we found out that he actually did kill himself.
The only reason we were still talking about this now,
six years after all this happened is because this guy
who's now the president, and this administration kept telling us
that Deep State was hiding stuff from us, and now
we have gosh, he was telling us we were stupid

(13:25):
for still Karen, after they came out with the report.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
It was his administration that.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Invited those fifteen conservative influeners from all these different shociow
media platforms to come all dressed up, nice and shiny,
get handed a giant binder that said Epstein Files, Phase
one on the front of it. They took a bunch
of crazy little pictures so they could put it on
the internet and tell people how important they are and

(13:51):
that this was the start of the most transparent administration
in American history. Now, they have been incredibly transparent, and
I'm not gonna take anything away from them on that,
but on this specific subject, you know what ended up happening.
Nothing was in there. Those were empty binders. None of
those he flew in searies had anything to say about
those binders. After they received them, they had time to

(14:12):
go through there, they had all the pages in front
of them. You're telling me none of them found anything?
Apparently not, because nothing was there. And then that'st forward
to this summer. Oh, actually, he did kill himself and
nothing actually happened. Oh and nobody of any importance was involved,
including anybody in Congress, including Donald Trump, including Bill Clinton,
including Bill Gates, including Elon Musk, absolutely nobody. So everybody

(14:35):
just forget about it now. I hate it. I hate
all of it. I hate that we if we weren't
light sure. I don't think Donald Trump was lying. I
don't think he was lying. I really did think that
maybe he knew thought that there was more to the
story than we got, and he knew that American people,
especially people who were left on the outside looking in.

(14:57):
After the twenty twenty election, we felt like the deep
state was stronger and more legitimate than ever, and this
was one major example of something that possibly could incriminate
people within the deep state, especially of the opposite political party.
And we just kept getting this worm in front of

(15:17):
our face like we're fish in the bottom of a lake, Like, oh, well,
if he's getting elected again, he's gonna figure this out,
and we're gonna see a ton of people get shoved
into prison because they were connected to Jeffrey Epstein. It's
gonna blow the deep state to smithereens. Yes, yes, keep
reeling it in, keep reeling it in. We're coming, We're coming.

(15:38):
We're gonna get to that worm. And the worm ended
up being on a hook, and we were pulled out
of the water and thrown on a grill. And here
we are, Scott forhe's what do we do with ourselves?

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Now?

Speaker 5 (15:49):
All right, take a breath, egg on our face. Now
you I.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Don't disagree with anything you've said, except that you're going
on this rant based on the comments now of someone
who is in jail, based on charges that she was
found guilty of Gallainne Maxwell. This was someone who sold
her soul to the devil to do just horrible things,

(16:14):
to rob young women of their innocence and lives. That
one girl of Virginia died, you know so, And she's
responsible for all of that. That's why she's in jail.
She's already shown Hey, whoever the highest bidder is, they
can have my soul and I'll look the other way,
or I'll participate or whatever. So now she comes out,

(16:35):
she stands to gain something by sucking up to everyone
in power. Oh no, that none of those guys had
anything to do with there's going on. There's no list
I don't even know why I'm sitting here in jail.
So she says that I don't believe her, and you've
based your rant on maybe that little fish hook over

(16:55):
there that's got Gallaiine Maxwell on one end of it.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I don't disagree with what you're saying, but everything Elaine
Maxwell just said is the same thing Attorney General Pam
Bondi said five weeks ago, who.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Had four years to make sure that the deep state
only gave them access to that which they now have,
which is apparently nothing the deep state administration that was
in power during the time that President Biden was allegedly
in office.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
So what you're saying is that you don't believe any evidence,
and the conspiracy goes deeper than the depths of the
deep state allows.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
I'm saying that a good conspiracy theorist will will never
have a direct answer for you. But this one's a
pretty easy one. If I want to dip my toe
in the conspiracy theory waters, those are the ways I
would do it.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
I mean, you seem to think that you've been provided
the entire picture. I don't know who has access to
the entire picture, but I imagine they probably didn't give it
all over to the Trump administration after the deep state
had four years under the Biden administration to do something
about it.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's a good conspiracy theory, and I do appreciate that
you have brought that up, and your point is noted,
and he may be right. What I do know is
that I just am kind of let down by the
entire thing and it was all much to do about nothing.
It sounds like, at least from a publicity standpoint, how
do you feel about it?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Phone lines are open. Four, two, five, five, eight to eleven.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Ten is the number Lisa is on our phone line
to start to show today, Lisa, welcome in.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Okay? There was an article decades ago that was published,
I think in Harper's Bazaar, and it was told the
story about how how Jeffrey Epstein got all his money
by the guy that was fired after Jeffrey Epstein's He

(18:47):
was like a guy that would warn his way and
to the he would lose people that were very wealthy,
and he did that with this billionaire guy. And I
can't get his name, and I'm driving. I know the
article exists, hed all you can do is google it.
And so this guy, the guys that he was really

(19:11):
good at working his way into their little private audience,
were guys that were weak like that, weren't really good looking,
and he would make him feel better. But so then
he would try to network with their friends, his friends
and get more money. He said he was a money manager.
But a lot of those people may be on a

(19:34):
list and they never did anything they would They sucked
through that. And we're born in this guy and other people.
So there are gonna be people. You know, if there
is a list of anything, you know, like an address
book or something, it might have all kinds of people
on it. So if you look bad up, you'll see

(19:54):
that there's gonna be people. But this billionaire guy, there's
a lot of people with a lot of money that
we've never heard their names. And I kind of believe
that it's those people that are being protected because you know,
I remember back a long time ago when there was
news about this, and Trump didn't want to be around me,

(20:16):
wouldn't even love them, give into more a lag after
he learned about this kind of stuff. So anyway, if
you can just look that up. I tried to email
it to you a week a bill.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, I'll look into it, Lisa. I appreciate the call today,
Thanks so much for listening.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
To have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, not to say that you know anything, Lisa, Like,
I'm with that. I'll look into that. I'm sure that
article exists. And we know Trump that pretty publicly was
with Epstein and did stuff and hung out with Epstein,
but at some point in the early to mid two
thousand stopped connecting with him. Uh, And that was would

(20:53):
be about the time where some of the stuff was
becoming public of the things that Epstein was involved in. Yeah,
I mean, how else would somebody be able to utilize
the influence that they may have with people with money
to do what Epstein wanted to do? Also, what is

(21:13):
wrong with a person that was doing this. I mean,
like think about all the things that would go on
in your brain. You're just like, oh, yeah, this is great.
This is the business model that I want to do.
I want to use these people with all these this money,
and I'm going to take these you know, young women
and kind of give them over and you know, like
traffic them. It's crazy to me that that goes through

(21:35):
the mind of a human person. But and again, I
we're talking about a pretty high profile criminal of the
last twenty five years. Brian's on our phone line at
four h two five five, eight, eleven ten. Brian, you're
on eleven ten, kfab what's on your mind?

Speaker 6 (21:51):
Well, Pam Bondy also said those thousands of hours of
video which was downloaded corn that were so nasty no
one could ever see it. But everyone's even recently on TV,
all the cameras everywhere in Epstein's crisis, and witnesses have
justified that he's recorded everything. And speaking of money, billions

(22:11):
of dollars were transferred through Russian banks and rod Wyman
sender once those records, but the Treasury won't give them up,
and the administration could give up everything of Epstein anytime
they wanted to. And I guess because Zie Maxwell's earned
her movement to Club Fed and one of the women
a Club Fed who did an interview about how she

(22:33):
didn't like it that Maxwell has moved there. She's then
moved to a detention center for violence Bones. And you know,
if it was just blanket criticism, I mean it trumpted
something I like, like take marijuana off the schedule, one
I would be grateful. I think maybe it took someone
like him to do it, but you know, he probably
won't even do that. And I've got a name for

(22:54):
your peoper people's look up who they might not have
heard of, was the number three in Epstein's organization, and
that would be Lana pauz Headeva. That's p o z
Hi d A e v A. She grew up in
an apartment complex for those trains for the KGB. Her
father was a lieutenant colonel in the Russian Army. She

(23:15):
graduated with a master's degree.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
And I'll let people look that up. I guess I'm
just trying to connect the dots here. So are you
saying that Russia has a bigger deal to do with
this in than you know people in the United States
that Russia needs to be kind of investigated through this
more so than just you know, Gallaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Epstein then made the person I mentioned the head of
his charitable organizations for young girls who needed help. And
she still is to a women's empowerment sessions once a month.
But anyway, yeah, follow the money, billions of dollars through
Russian banks now sanctioned the Treasury Department has the records,
Wren Weinman once then you could look that up along
with us.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
But ada, Okay, I appreciate the insight, Brian, thank you
so much for listening, I mean calling it.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Have a good weekend.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, okay, well, I'll certainly take that under advisement. That
would certainly add to an additional chapter. And if that
were to be let's just say that Russia and the
Russia government or uh previous iterations of the Russian government
or even Putin himself somehow are linked in connected here

(24:31):
with the Epstein situation. Could you imagine how much more
complex those Ukraine Russian negotiations could end up becoming if
all of a sudden you have the American government getting
very testy and asking a lot of questions of the
Russian you know, Kremlin, the KGB, et cetera. It's it's

(24:55):
not a good it's not I don't think anyone is satisfied.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
No one is satisfied.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Republicans who are looking for answers and have been told
that there are more answers than have been out there
and were incredibly disappointed by the way that this was handled.
Five six weeks ago when Pam Bondi and Donald Trump
basically said, Okay, we figured it out. Epstein killed himself.
There is no list. Let's move on with our lives.
And we were like, wait a second, that that can't
be it. You told us there was so much more

(25:20):
to that, and they were like, stop talking about it.
If you are that dumb that you want to keep
thinking about Epstein, then you're just dumb, you know. And
so Republicans, I think, are generally a little peeved at this.
Democrats are certainly not happy because they think this is
some sort of you know, get out of jail free
card for Donald Trump, because they were so assured, whether

(25:42):
it was their own you know, thought process, or Elon
Musk or anybody else that was trying to incriminate Donald
Trump in the Epstein files. Well, they're disappointed because this
doesn't put Donald Trump in trouble with this case. And
I think anybody else who otherwise was just curious as

(26:02):
to whether or not there could be actually more information.
We spend all this time this energy talking about it,
thinking about it, trying to unpack it, and all we're
hearing is there's absolutely nothing and whether or not, you know,
we can go to the conspiracy theorist Stroud and talk
about all the different pieces of evidence that could have
been just blown to smither rings by the people in

(26:23):
charge in the Biden administration. Glaine Maxwell, you would think,
right would she wouldn't have been a part of that.
And I'm not one hundred percent sure that you can
believe anything that she would say. But Todd Blanche, the
Attorney general deputy Attorney General who did all the questioning,
seems to think that, you know, she was being as

(26:45):
honest as she was going to be. I don't know
if you put her up to a polygraph or whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
But it also seems a bit fishy and sketchy that
it took in the American people from six weeks ago
to tell the American government that's not good enough. You're
not telling us the full story. You told us there
was more to this. What are you hiding from us?
It took the pressure of us, the people to get
them to even call Gilaine Maxwell to try to get

(27:11):
something on the tape.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
So I don't know, maybe it's.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Just one of these unfortunate catch twenty twos of we
were told something by somebody and we were led to
believe something by somebody else, and then all this stuff
went down, and we were told that there were so
many major names in politics and entertainment that were going
to be incriminated here. This is not the only time
we've heard about this this year. Remember the Diddy trial.

(27:37):
Remember when Diddy was arrested and they were trying to
find him, and the rumors of all the different entertainers
or athletes that went to these Diddy parties, and they
thought we were going to get brought up and be
completely incriminated by their association with Diddy and what he was.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Doing at his home.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
And then they had an entire trial to dig into this,
and not a single major celebrity's name was even mentioned
by anyone, including the prosecution. Sometimes I think we just
talk ourselves into the idea that there is this gigantic
thing and it really is as simple as just the
person that's in trouble or the people right next to

(28:17):
them that also are creating the trouble, Like Galain. I
don't know, but all I can tell you is it
doesn't give me confidence that we're ever gonna know the
whole story on this. We're never gonna know the whole
story on Diddy, and we're never gonna know the whole
story on pretty much anything. You know why, because we
are just peons in the eyes of our government, and
that's just the reality.