Handshake Gate 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Remember that. That's how that works. Like they do a
they do a swearing in where they basically all in
the House, everybody takes the oaths together because there's four
hundred and some of them, right, But in the Senate,
you know, there's only like twelve people that were elected
this cycle that get sworn in, and they kind of
have a little bit more of an intimate moment with

(00:20):
the person swearing them in, right, That makes sense. They
don't do them all at the exact moment. They all
kind of come up to the front, and they all
kind of have a small moment with the person who
swears the men. You remember who swears in the people
in the Senate pop quiz civis civic? Pop quiz Today
Matt put an old five spot in the swear jar.

(00:42):
Huh mmm hmmmm.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
You know there's a three stooges bit where they're in
court and Curly's got to be sworn in, but he's
got a big old wad of gum. He takes it
out and puts it on the nose of the the
guy who's swearing them in.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
You know, Moe is such a straight man all this,
It's like, how did he not kill those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know what, he was either a really good actor
or he thought about it.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Every single every single short, every single episode. You're just like,
how does Mo put up with this? I mean, he
looks like he's getting angrier and angrier.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Anyway. You know who swears a VP, right? It is
a VP. Yeah, you know the VP is at this current,
present time and moment. It is Kamala Harris. There's something
going pretty viral today. It's a video of I think Friday,
when the swearing inn is happening and Senator deb Fisher
is in the process of being sworn in and she's
with her husband and Kamala does the oath. There's a

(01:44):
video and it's like twenty one seconds song. Let me
send this to you.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I want you to see it because I always love
your commentary on these things, and I didn't I didn't
want to start with this, but I just couldn't help
myself when I saw how many people were commenting on it.
Let me know when you get a chance to look
at that, because it's pretty interesting. But this is it's
Senator deb Fisher getting sworn in because remember she won

(02:08):
what seemed to be pretty competitive A lot more competitive
when I think anybody had anticipated between deb Fisher and
Dan Osborne. Right, and she's there, she takes the oath
from Kamala Harris and are you seeing this? Did what

(02:28):
just happened there? He just denied the handshake. He denied
the handshake her husband, Senator deb Fisher's husband. Kamala shakes
Debfisher's hand. She reaches to shake his hand and he
just nods at her. Why what do you think because

(02:49):
he's that's kind of rude. It is it is. It's like,
it's not he was holding the Bible, but he had
it in his left hand and his right hand is free.
It's not like he's holding stuff. And he's like he
can't do this. He has absolutely and and and then
you know that takes this time to smile for the

(03:09):
cameras and uh, no smile and he just kind of
stands there. He's, you know what, no fire away, but
oh no, no, no, no, this one fire away. He kind of
looks like Squidward deb Fisher's husband. Yeah, kinda, I guess no, well,

(03:32):
she kind of. I gotta give Kama the credit there
because the way she handles it, she offers her like
it was a good handshake between her and dead Fisher
and in Senator Fisher, you know, it's very grateful to her,
and I think Senator Fisher looks just a little embarrassed
as to what just happened there. Uh And but Kamala
plays it off kind of well, you know, she kind
of does like okay kind of thing and kind of

(03:53):
gives the big smile, and she plays the part and
takes has a huge smile on as they take the
photo for the swearing in. You know, Like, but the
reason I think this is going viral is because he
I don't know, I wouldn't I wouldn't have the gumption
to do that. I don't know what what do you
gain by denying the handshake? Is there really that much

(04:17):
dislike between Deb Fisher's husband and the Democratic Party, specifically
Kamala Harris, whom I would imagine they're like what interactions
has Deb Fisher and Kamala Harris had? Especially, like what

(04:38):
interactions would they have had? It's not like they ran
against each other, right, I think it's you know what,
I was able to pull the audio of the moment
when she extends her hand.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, I have that really quick. Oh come on, yeah,
there it is. Did you hear that? It's hard to catch.
I'll pull up the volume here a little bit. Let's
hear it again. That the audio of when Kamala extends
her hand. Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, wow, Yeah, dang, that's tough. Yeah. So his name
is Bruce, by the way, and he and Deb Fisher operate,
according to Wikipedia, their family ranch near Valentine. And yeah,

(05:20):
and I mean, it's going pretty viral right now. For
some reason. This is not good. This isn't the kind
of thing that I would be like, I would celebrate.
And I don't know how Deb Fisher thinks about it.
I'm and for those who are out there are like,
I'm not going to ask her, Okay, I'm sorry, I'm
not gonna ask her the question. It won't come up,
is what you're saying. If for the next time I

(05:42):
talk to Deb Fisher, and I'm going to wait a
few weeks until they start really getting stuff going and
the president is in place and all that stuff, and
then we'll talk to her at some point, and I'm
going to talk to her about stuff that actually matters.
I'm not going to bring this up. I mean, there's
nothing to be gained by that, but this is my opinion.
This disclaimer disclaim alert is embody's opinion. Well, I don't

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know what you gain by by playing like that, and
I don't think she obviously didn't plan for that, because
she shook Kamala's hand like a professional and shook it
and you can see that she had gratitude to Kamala
for you know, doing this. And he was holding something
in his hand though the Bible was in one hand,
right and just to uh the Bible, they do the

(06:25):
oath on right like they bring their own Bible to
do that. Could there have been a moment where he
overthought the situation and was like, you know, maybe he
just didn't get a hand out there soon enough. Or no, no,
did you watch the video again? Okay, it is explicit
what she's trying to do. She's trying and he has
nothing in his right hand. She he looks at her hand,
looks at her and nods and then looks back down. Yeah.

(06:50):
I'm not here. I'm not here to like predict what
people's intentions are. But I mean, and he's an elderly man,
you know, he's in his seventies. I'm sure I don't
have his age right in front of me. But based
on her age, I would imagine he's in his seventies.
But you can't tell me that he's like that, like
near sighted, that he didn't see her hand right in

(07:12):
front of his face.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I was just wondering, maybe you know, he fumbled the exchange.
You know he wasn't sure. Okay, I gotta I gotta
pull Will with Will.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Ferrell and uh stepbrothers where he like can't decide if
he wants a handshake or a huge yeah, kind of
one of those things. No, I don't think that's what's
going on. No, I what I think happened was I
think he wanted to make like I think, and I
don't think he wanted to make a statement. He's not
the kind of guy that is looking for the cameras,
to be fair, But I think he truly just has

(07:41):
a visceral dislike for Kamala Harris and any of the
Democrats would be my guess. And I just don't know.
That's the kind of thing that is personal. You wouldn't
do that unless you personally have a dislike for the
person reaching their handout. That's not something like if they
represent the Democrats like that that's not something I would
just not be a professional or cordial person with somebody

(08:04):
because they belong to the other political party.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
It'd be like if SpongeBob broke Squidwards clarinet and then
asked to shake hands about it, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
No, yeah, yeah, that's but he would have been personally
wronged in that scenario. What did Kamala Harris do to
Debt Fisher? No, that's true. Yeah, I got to work
on my analogy, right, Like, she represents the Democrats and
that's it. And he's getting torched on social media and
she's getting torched by proxy. So if you go on

(08:39):
x right now and you just search deb Fisher, it's
everywhere right now. It's really blowing up. I don't know
why this is just now catching on because I guess
somebody caught that and has decided to share that. But ah, yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's a tough look there for old man Fisher. And yeah,
it doesn't look it doesn't look good. There's there's multiple
multiple people out there. So anyway, I'll I got some
audio play. We'll talk to January six stuff. If you

(09:18):
got any thoughts on this, or you got the uh.
I don't know. If you got any ideas about what's
going down with this, I'd love to hear from you,
So open those phone lines at four roh two five
five eight to eleven ten four two five five eight
to eleven ten. Am I thinking too much about this?
Is this not a big a deal even if everybody
on social media is talking about it? But the last

(09:40):
couple hours, it's just blowing up everywhere, and you can
find it pretty easy if you jump on social media.
So we'll see. I'm sure it's is politics one oh one.
It's more, you know, stuff for us to talk about
in social media, to talk about, even if it isn't
actually gonna matter or do anything. Kama's gone there in
two weeks, so you know who knows anyway. Two seventeen,
News Radio eleven ten kfab em Mary's songer on news

(10:04):
Radio eleven ten Kfab. Deb Fisher shakes Kamala's hand really
nice and firmly, and it looks like she's smiling, and
they're both like, this is right after she takes the
oath and then he was holding the Bible in one hand.
She offers her hand to him. He looks at it.
Looks back at her and just nods at her, and
she and Kamala is kind of just like taken a
little bit of back by it, but kind of just

(10:25):
you know, flashes a smile and you know, gets on
with it. What does she like? Why does she care?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Maybe he just coughed into his hands and you know
he's just trying to be germ conscious.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
While he holds the Holy Bible for his wife to
you take the oath of office and gets sworn in
as Senator of the United States of America. I'm trying
to think of something. Yeah, it's not it's not there.
It's not there. It's a bad look Bruce Fisher, and
I feel bad for deb Fisher, who seemingly did not
know this is. It's not the same, but it kind
of remains. It's reminds me of that graduation thing that

(10:55):
went viral from earlier this year, remember or from last year.
I guess you remember that. It's like a high school
graduation in Wisconsin and the superintendent is an African American
man and as a girl gets her diploment is walking
across the stage. Apparently her father jumps on stage real
quick and just like escorts the African American superintendent out

(11:16):
of the way so she doesn't have to shake his hand, right,
And it's just like, in that moment, it was not
about you, and you made it about you, And now
your daughter has to answer all of the questions and
she's the one that has to deal with this, and
you've ruined the moment of her graduation for her. And
I'm not gonna say and sit here and say the
deb Fisher feels like the swearing in of her next

(11:39):
term of the Senate got ruined by this. But what
I will say is Bruce decided to make it about him,
and it's just it's not a good looks. It's not
a good look under any circumstance. So I don't know,
I don't know how you feel about it. If you've
got opinions on it, feel free to call in four

(11:59):
H two five I eight eleven ten is the number
four two five five eight eleven ten. And also if
you forgot, you can always email me. Email is Emory
at kfab dot com, E M. E. R. Y at
kfab dot com and I'll keep you posted if there's
anything else that comes from that. I don't think there
will be but that, But Yeah, anyway, that's one thing

(12:23):
that happened today. Of course, today is January sixth. January
sixth takes on a lot of different meetings, but one
of the things is that the Vice President of the
United States has to certify the results of the presidential election.
That is something that happens on January sixth every single cycle,
as the Session of Congress begins, and Matt, I believe

(12:45):
we have audio here of something that occurred. It's about
two hours ago now, and the Joint Session of Congress,
as the current Vice President of the United States, as
we've been talking about, happens to be the person who
lost this election. It's not the first time this has happened,
but this is not something that happens that often. And
so let's take a listen in This is from the

(13:05):
Joint Session of Congress as Kamala Harris is presiding in
her duties as Vice President to certify the presidential election.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
The state of the vote for the President of the
United States, as delivered to the President of the Senate
is as follows. The whole number of the electors appointed
to vote for President of the United States is five
hundred and thirty eight. Within that whole number. The majority
is two hundred and seventy. The votes for President of

(13:36):
the United States are as follows.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Donald J.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Trump of the state of Florida has received three hundred
and twelve votes.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
Kamala D Harris.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
Quote forma smilation, come to a publicans.

Speaker 8 (14:03):
Kamala D.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Harris of the state of California has received two hundred
and twenty six votes.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
And I would ever clasts it's signing ovation, and that's
how it ends. Kamala eventually, you know, gives a smirk
and hits the gable a couple of times to settle
them down to it's certified, it's over. There was no shenanigans.
I guess that's what we're supposed to expect this, But
of course four years ago there was all sorts of
shenanigans at the Capitol, and there's different people out pointing

(14:34):
fingers about who to blame for that and all that stuff,
and there was heightened security, as I think every January
sixth following a presidential election for the rest of time,
there's going to be heightened security to make sure all
this stuff happens and whatever. Disappointed in the lack of shenanigans,
it's just kind of another day at the office here.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
You're well, yeah, you asking me up. I'm disappointed in
the lack of shenanikins.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I don't know. You played the same Squidward bit three
times in the last segment.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
What does that have to that's apples and oranges? I
love I love playing Squidward sounds. Yeah, I'll play it
again now, you know perfect? Hey all that's my attorney Squidward.
Answer that for me. Am I disappointed in the lack
of Shenanigans On January sixth, Ye, fair enough, I'm thrilled.
I'm thrilled by the lack of shenanigans. We don't want

(15:22):
there to be a lot of shannigans. I think Washington
being boring. There's I think that's a that's kind of
what we want. At the same time.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
You know, there's a certain a level of you know,
expectation is to There was no doubt about this, zero doubt.
And as much as I'd like to sit here and
doubt what what this current vice president had to say
or do in regards to this situation, you know what else,

(15:54):
what option other options she had? She had none? You know,
there's a she had to stand up there and she
had to take it like the grown woman that she
is and she did. Kudos to her. I'm sure this
whole thing is pretty bittersweet. Not many times you get
defeated so soundly in something you're competing for and then

(16:15):
you have to be the one to basically award the
trophy to the other side. It's an embarrassing situation. And
then after that, you know you're out of a job too.
So it's just a whammy whammy whammy for Kamala Harris here.
And you know what, I think you have to give
her credit that she's handling it with the grace that
is probably necessary. She's the first vice president that has

(16:37):
to basically certify her own defeat since al Gore had
to do it back after the two thousand elections, So
you know, it doesn't happen that often. Did he have
the beard for that or did he growed it after
as well? After Okay, no, no facial hair. I'll never
forget the al Gore beard that happened. Look at al
Gore two thousand. He looked like a regular politician. Okay, yeah, yeah,
we talked about this.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
He went off, he created climate change and then he
grew the racl harig and then he invented the internet
before that.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, something like that. Brian's on the line real
quick before we get out of here this segment. Brian,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (17:10):
Hey? First time, first time caller, longtime listener.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Thanks, Brian. What's going on?

Speaker 9 (17:16):
Hey, I'm just just heard you discussing Kamala Harris is
passing of the torch. She did it with grace and
with class, unlike def Fisher's husband today. Yeah, that racist
bigot refused to shake her hand when she was swearing
in deb Fisher.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Why, Yeah, And we talked about that. I spent the
whole first segment. I don't know if you jumped in
and caught that at all. You know, because it's it's
going viral. It's the video being shared, even more so
than the video I just played of her certifying the
results of the election. But I I don't want to
I don't want to say that it was racist specifically,
because I don't know if it was that, or it's
just he hates Democrats or he just dislikes her for

(17:55):
whatever reason. But he made it about himself in a
moment that should have been about his wife, and that
I think is the biggest issue with this, and he
looks bad, and by proxy it kind of makes Senator
Fisher look bad. And I think Kamala handled that situation
as well as she probably could have in that moment.
But they had to know. There's a ton of cameras there,
and I don't know what this old guy thought he

(18:16):
was accomplishing by not doing that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 9 (18:21):
Yeah, yeah, it's just it's unfortunate that I'm sorry, gentlemen,
I just don't have the words. It's just an embarrassment
to this state.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
I Brian, I don't disagree. To be honest with you,
I have one hundred percent agree with that assessment. And
can you do me a favor and call us again
sometime if we're talking about something that you have thoughts on,
feel free to call us back, man, No problem, all right,
you have a great day, man, appreciate it. If you've
got thoughts, you can call us four A two five
five eight eleven ten four A two five to five
eight to eleven ten. And again, I don't want to
put this at the feed of deb Fisher because she

(18:54):
seemed to be incredibly professional. She shook Kamala Harris's hand
after being sworn in. Everything seemed to be on the level.
But everybody's talking about her husband deciding that he was
not going to shake her hand, and that was made
pretty clearly by his behavior up there today. So yeah,
we can talk about that or they swearing in January sixth,
all that stuff, And of course we have the resignation

(19:15):
of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, which we knew was
a few weeks into making here at least, and we'll
chat about that a little bit coming up, and we
have some interesting Matt asked an interesting question that I
got to get to the if the Liberals decided that
they were going to have a riot at the capitol
for January sixth, and if obviously they did not, but

(19:36):
if they did, what was the question?

Speaker 10 (19:38):
Well?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
I thought, if there were shenanigans today, and we are
blessed that they are not, thank goodness for that, but
there were. Okay, who's the QAnon shaman of the left
and what does the QAnon shaman of the left look
like and act like?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's what I wanted. What does he steal? Does he
steal the podium? The lag thurn? Again? You know, like
I don't know. We'll have fun. We'll talk about that too.
Thirty He's Radio eleven think KFAB and.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
Marie Sullman on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Senator Deb Fisher of Nebraska is being sworn in after
winning her seat against Dan Osborne. And she's being sworn in.
Her husband is next to her. Her husband comes up
to the front of the chamber and has the bible
that they're going to use to do the oath and
swearing in for anybody who missed this, and Kamala Harris
gets done swearing in, deb Fisher reaches out to shake

(20:29):
her hand. Deb Fisher gives her a nice, good handshake.
You can see them both talking and nodding. You can
see Deb Fisher, you know, thank her and all this stuff.
And then Kamala turns to shake the hand of Deb
Fisher's husband, Bruce, and Bruce looks at her hand, looks
back up at her, just says and just nods, and
Kamala kind of pulls her hand back. It's like okay,

(20:50):
you know kind of thing. And then they smile to
pose for the photo, even though Bruce doesn't really smile.
I don't know, I don't know the last time he
probably smiled. He doesn't look like a guy who smiles
a whole lot, to be honest. And yeah, and that's
the end of the video. But it's going everywhere and
people are really going after that Fisher's husband and by
proxy Deb Fisher, who represents our state, by the way,

(21:11):
for this behavior at the capitol. Well, I want your
thoughts on it. Four two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten.
We got Dan on the line. Welcome Dan. What's on
your mind today?

Speaker 11 (21:20):
Well, I just want to say that I think it's
Bruce's way of kind of his fancy Pelosi moment as
bad as she was at tearing up Donald Trump's speech.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yes, yeah, kind of like camera stealing moment, right, just like, hey,
look at me, look at what I got going on
over here now.

Speaker 11 (21:39):
And it doesn't make it right, right, And I.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Don't know, I don't know if that's like, how do
I say this? I'm not sure he thought ahead of
time that that was something he was going to do, right.
I think just in the moment he was like, I'm
not shaking your hand kind of thing. But it's still
I mean, it's dominating the conversation and it's all anybody,
the people are talking about the more on social media
than her actually certifying the presidential results, which tells you

(22:04):
quite a bit about the power of this kind of behavior,
You know what I mean exactly now for sure, Dan, Hey,
I appreciate that. That's a good it's a good analogy
to what Nancy did after that State of the Union
that one night. I was crazy. Appreciate the call, buddy,
Thanks for listening. Let's go to John on the phone
line four oh two, five, five, eight to eleven ten.
What's on your mind about this? John?

Speaker 10 (22:26):
Yeah, I wish that Bruce Fisher had had shook her hand.
But if he really, if he really had disliked her
that much, what he could have done to save face
with his wife and the state of Nebraska. He could

(22:47):
have shook Kama Harris's hand and given her a really,
very very firm, bone crushing handshake.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Now that that would have been a different type of
different type of video. I think would have seen that
then watched Kamala trying to get her hand out of
there or something. But yeah, I don't know. But like
I said to the previous caller there, I'm not sure
he meant to I don't think he was thinking about
this at all. I don't think he like preemptively decided

(23:18):
if she tries to shake my hand, I'm not shaking it.
I just think in the moment she reaches to shake
his hand and he's like, oh, I'm not shaking your
hand kind of thing. I don't know. What do you think, John,
is acceptable? Not acceptable?

Speaker 10 (23:29):
Well? I think I think he should have shook his hand.
President Ford went to visit the mouth and sit town,
and sometimes leaders have to. No, Bruce is not a leader,
but his wife is right. But I would also call
out the guy who earlier in the conversation automatically called

(23:52):
Bruce a racist picket. The guy who called he doesn't
know what is what Bruce's was, so he shouldn't have
said that. I know he didn't shake a black woman's hand,
but he he doesn't know whether it was because of
that or whether it was just a disagreement of politics exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
And I tried to correct him the best I could
in that moment, John, because I know I know you did. Yeah,
I agree with you. I don't want to draw too
many conclusions about why he didn't shake her hand. It could,
like you mentioned it, could be really anything along the
spectrum of just being you know, she's a Democrat and
he didn't want to shake her hand because of that,
or maybe he did just kind of freeze up in
the moment and just he just like, ah, you know,

(24:33):
I'm not going to do that. Maybe it wasn't, you know,
illicitly done, like he didn't mean to be malicious at all.
It's hard to know without us talking to him. But
it's going it's making the rounds and people are drawing
their own conclusions, that's for sure. John, Thanks for the call.

Speaker 10 (24:47):
Yeah, I think Bruce should have been more respectful and
sug her hand, though.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I totally agree. Thanks for the call, John, have a
good day.

Speaker 10 (24:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Frankie's on a phone line four two five five eight
eleven ten. Welcome to the show, Frankie. What's up?

Speaker 9 (24:57):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
How is everybody doing? I think I know why the
Fisher may have won, and I respect step Fisher for
her victory, although I think then Osborne should have won
and not uh and not the Fisher, if you know

(25:23):
what I'm saying, because we needed a week, because we
needed somebody from the front the union who well, I'm
not a politician, so please bear with me with my
lack of knowledge. So so I think with a small

(25:44):
with a union worker or stayed in Nebraska would have
been a lot of better with dan Osborne more than
anything and more than just somebody who just wants money
and power. Uh yeah, because right, yes, and said Karlama
Harris one, I mean not, Oh my gosh, I.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Said that it's okay.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, I am so sorry since lost the election. She
instead how her how I can she how? Well? Well,
you know, yeah, and so now we have a dub Fisher.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
As as yeah, senator, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yes, I said a senator as payback basically as many
as many Nebraskans for hoping that dan Osborne would win.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, it's a it's a that's an interesting It was
an interesting race to follow because I don't think anybody
who's an independent many people give a ton of chance
to win. But it got very competitive towards the end.
But yeah, I just think too many Republicans were activated
by what was going on in the country. Frankie, I
appreciate the call. Thanks so much for listening to us today.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Thank you for battling with me.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, all good call back again sometime I always enjoy
hearing people's different perspectives. Yeah, the state of Nebraska spoke
on that race. But this is the kind of thing
that it's tough to defend. It's tough to defend when
your husband is sitting up there, and I mean, let's
just put yourself in her shoes. Right, This has absolutely
nothing to do with Debt Fisher. But because of the

(27:22):
fact that this is her husband, this has everything to
do with Debt Fisher and court of public opinion. You're
going to look at this, this, this moment is going
to look badly upon her. It's going to look badly
upon Nebraska, whether we like it or not. And again,
here we are in a situation where it's tough to
interpret exactly what the intent was, but it just doesn't

(27:42):
It doesn't look good. It doesn't look good, and unfortunately,
our senator is getting roasted on social media because of this.
If you have thoughts, call us four h two five
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Speaker 6 (27:54):
Kfab Emery's songer on news radio eleven ten.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Kfab I want to shake your hand.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
He was just walking around the backstage. Yeah, yeah, find Kamala.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
I want to shake your hand like the guy in
the airport in the airplane like to shake your hand. Yeah, yeah,
it's a little late. Brace. Let's get back to the phone.
Sore two five, five, eight to eleven ten. Roy is there?

Speaker 12 (28:14):
Hello?

Speaker 13 (28:15):
Roy?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 11 (28:17):
Up?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
And we lost Roy. Let's go ahead and get to Dave. Roy.
If you're out there, Uh, you know, call back. Dave's
on the line now, Dave, welcome to the show. It's up.

Speaker 14 (28:28):
Hi. Well, I was looking at that video and the
husband was holding the Bible while deb was getting torn
in and then he was in the process of handing
it back to her after he was holding it when
everything else transpired after the handshake, so he wasn't even
aware that she was willing to shake. His hand shifted

(28:51):
from one hand to the other, Dave.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Dave watched the video again, I have it right in
front of me, like he he looks at her hand,
looks up at her, and then looks back down and
just nods.

Speaker 14 (29:01):
But he was shuffling the Bible back and forth in
his hand during that time.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah. Well, I've looked at the video, Dave, and I
don't disagree that maybe the Bible and maybe he just
like had like a brain fart in there. I can't
read that. Yeah, And I can't roll that out. I mean,
there's possible, that's a possibility to what's going on here.
But based on the reactions of him and deb Fisher
and Kamala Harris in that moment, I just think that

(29:27):
they all kind of made like, like the two women
next to him, his wife and Kamala Harris both as like, oh,
he just straight up refused to shake her hand. And
the interpretation of people all over social media and in
these articles that are now going out there right now
as we speak, over the last thirty minutes, I mean,
court of public opinion is pretty clear that this was
just a disrespectful move by a guy who either doesn't

(29:49):
like her because she's a Democrat or doesn't like her
for any other reason and just decided not to shake
her hand when she reached out to do that. So
I can't roll your theory out, Dave, just I don't know,
like I in that situation, he had the Bible in
just his left hand while she was doing the oath,
and I just don't know if that's a good enough

(30:10):
reason why he wouldn't have shaken her hand.

Speaker 14 (30:13):
So what about do I have time to put two
cents in on fire Dan Osborne? Yeah, go ahead, Okay,
So I only say this because the last caller said
Dan Osborne should have won. But with Kellogg's in Omaha,
it is impossible to get fired from Kellogg's. You just can't.
The union is st so strong. Plus he was a
union member.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, besides the fact that they're like allegedly closing this
plant down now, but go ahead, yeah.

Speaker 14 (30:39):
Right, so, and also because he was out there with Omaha,
it's always been very bad union to deal with. They
would be very, very tough on Kellogg's.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (30:52):
But anyway, he was in maintenance at Kellogg's right, and
many many times when he should be out on the floor,
held in the maintenance shop watching television, and they kept
telling him get out on the floor. And after so
many times they finally fired him. So when they asked
about you know White, he said, well, why did you
get fired? It goes well, they have their reasons and

(31:13):
I have mine. And they went ahead and picked on
me because I was like in charge of the union.
But trust me, you do not get fired at Kellogg's
unless they have great grounds. And his was he kept
not going on the foe watching television just that.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Well, yeah, no, I appreciate your perspective on that, Dave.
At the end of the day, though, I'll just throw
this out here, it's going to take a while for
Dan Osborne to get back into the public eye politically
after that campaign. He needed to win and that was
the moment and they weren't able to pull it off.
And you know, in my talkings with him, he's been
very cordial and he's a nice enough guy, and I

(31:49):
don't have an nice enough guy. Yeah, and I don't
have any ol against him, but it was pretty clear
how Nebraska felt. Even after all the money that came
from outside Nebraska to try to elevate him, Nebraska still
elected Deb Fisher. And I think that speaks volumes as
to what politically Nebraska feels like it needs, more so
than anything else, for sure. Baby, Yeah, thanks so much
for calling. Man. Really appreciate your perspective. If you want

(32:11):
to talk about this handshake that was not the handshake
that wasn't between Deb Fisher's husband Bruce and Kamala Harris,
feel free to call is four h two five five
eight to eleven ten four H two five five eight
eleven ten, and we'll talk more January sixth. Stuff is
Donald Trump's victory officially certified by Kamala Harris in Congress today.

(32:32):
All sorts of stuff on the way. Just stick around.
We love you, News Radio eleven ten, kfab. The procedure
is you get up there. Somebody usually is with you
if you want them to be, and they can hold
the Bible that you put your hand on while you
put your other hand up and you take the oath
of office. And then after that you are officially sworn

(32:53):
in and you are going to serve in your role
that you've been elected to. And that was happening for
Senator to deb Fisher. Within a sixty second span, you
see her husband, Bruce come to the front of the place.
He stands where they tell him to stand. He holds
the Bible, she does the oath. Kamala Harris, you know,
congratulates her, shakesteap Fisher's hand. They share a nice handshake.
Kamala then turns to Bruce Fisher reaches her hand out

(33:16):
towards him. And Matt Case is my witness. We've both
looked at the video multiple times. It seems as though
he's acknowledging and sees the hand right there in front
of him.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Should we raise our right hands? Quick, raise your right hand.
Spit out that gum. That's a three Stooges bit. Sorry again,
I know, I'm sorry. I get distracted. I think about
the three Stooges too much. Yeah, but he sees the hand.
He kind of looks at her and nods and doesn't
take her hand.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
And she's like, but what does he say? I think
he says yes and yeah, or maybe he says no, thanks,
He's like no, he he says on one syllable comes
out of his mouth. He couldn't have said anything more
than that, So I don't know. We can dissect. Maybe
he says ah. Maybe he's scared of hands. Maybe he
has and phobia. I had an email that's kind of

(34:02):
close to that. I'll get to that in a second.
I got to get to these phone calls though. Four
O two five, five, eight eleven ten. We'll start with Ron, Ron,
welcome to the show today. What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 8 (34:12):
Helly, thanks for taking my call. First of all, love
you show guys. Hey, just so real quick. I know
both David Bruce very well. I can tell you right now,
Bruce does not have a racist bone in his body.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Sure.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
Now, with that being said, he's a there is there's
If he doesn't want to shake Como's hand, then so
be it. He's not the one that was elected deb was,
So if he chooses not to, people just get hurt
over the silliest things. And I'll be honest with you,
as many people are going to raise a fuss about

(34:43):
this and he went and shake her hand, there's gonna
be just as many, if not more, people that go
good for you, Bruce. And that's just my two cents.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, Ron, and I know that you're coming from a
place of you know, like actually knowing Bruce and having
a history with you. And I don't want to I
don't want to guess at any specific reason because I
think there's you know, it could be a multitude of things.
But I guess if the vice president who's a Democrat
reached out to shake your hand in any circumstance, whether

(35:13):
it was after your significant other takes the oath of
office or you just see her in the cafeteria or
whatever and she reaches out, would your inclination be just
to shake her hand or like how would you what
would you have done in that scenario?

Speaker 8 (35:27):
You know, it would it would depend on who it
really was, because there are some some presidents I would
have never shook their hand, to.

Speaker 12 (35:34):
Be honest with you, Okay, all right, that's right.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
But and I don't know, Kamala is just well, you know,
I I I just think I look at kind of
where our country was headed, and you know, I'm thankful
that Trump got elected, and I just this is just
you know, my belief that I think that, you know,
we could have gone down the wrong road as a country.
To be honest with you with that, I'm sure some

(35:59):
calls are have the you know, have some opinion to that.
But to be honest with you, again, it comes right
down to if somebody doesn't want to shake somebody's hand,
then then so be it.

Speaker 14 (36:10):
It should be prerogative.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, you're you're you're right, You're right, Ron, I don't
disagree with that at all. I just think that you
have to also understand there's going to be especially in
this situation where there's an expectation of professionalism and cordialness.
There's a lot of people that are just saying that
this is like a child that uh, this is something
the child would do or something that's very childish, and
it's the court of public opinion. But you're right, he

(36:32):
didn't break any rules that were written down. I mean,
you know. Yeah, So I don't I think deb.

Speaker 8 (36:39):
That did it right by shaking her hand, because I
think that's I mean, that's that's who's elected. That's who's
that you know, is being his confirm into office and
so forth. But but for him to have to do that,
that's not you know, that has nothing to do with the.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Way that Yeah. No, I'm with you, Ron, I'm with you.
I appreciate you calling in man, thanks for listening. Yeah,
I don't know, And this is just me if you
extend your hand to shake my hand, unless you have
personally wronged me, and even then, I mean, just as
a peaceful individual not looking for conflict or confrontation, I'm
just gonna naturally want to reciprocate that action. That's usually

(37:18):
like a friendly and well meaning moment. So it's not
something that I would think of. I couldn't tell you
a person on this planet that I would I would
disregard that handshake.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
If you were how if you were Howie Mandel, you
might not do it though. If I really didn't like
other people's hands, sure, right, But he's got a germ situation. Yeah,
that's a that's not something I have to worry about.
I mean, I may, I might kiss Howie on a face.
It depends on the situation. How much money's involved, you know.
Brian's on a phone line of four h two five, five,
eight to eleven ten. Brian, Uh, sorry to have to

(37:55):
bring you in after I said that, but go ahead, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (37:59):
Thanks, thank you for taking my call. No, I agree
with the previous caller. I will I honestly myself, I
would not have shaken her hand, and there's no obligation
there again, we didn't elect her. But more importantly, I
think this shows, and this is going to the I
don't care about your feelings. I'm going to do what

(38:20):
I feel. I'm not doing any I'm not breaking the law,
I'm not breaking any written rule. And if it hurts
your feelings, so be it, because guess what your feelings
are about to get real hurt when we do what
we're about to do by cleaning our country up and
cleaning out your mess. So I think it was more

(38:40):
I'm kind of with him. I wouldn't have shaken her hand.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Interesting, Well, Brian, you're you're one right, there was there
is no rule that was broken here at all, you know, And.

Speaker 12 (38:50):
So now if now, if now has he been elected,
that's an obligation. There again, it's a confirmation. So yes,
you need to that's that's an that is an old
old man's handshake of a confirmation of a deal.

Speaker 10 (39:03):
Doug.

Speaker 12 (39:04):
Okay, he didn't make any deal with her. And if
in my mind, if I shake her hand that and
I agree with what you're saying to a certain point
about shaking her hand, But if I don't, if I
know your beliefs and we're on two different realms and
I have absolutely zero respect, I can't shake somebody's hand
that I do not respect, and I know that I

(39:25):
cannot have any respect for in the future.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
So yeah, just for clarification, Brian, you're you think it
is appropriate for anyone who was elected to shake the
hand of the person, even if they disagree with them.
But as far as a certificate other it, we shouldn't
have expected anything from him.

Speaker 10 (39:43):
Correct.

Speaker 12 (39:43):
And there again, because a handshake back in the old
days was a confirmation of a deal. I mean they
spit on their hands, and that was you know, they
spit on their hands and shook their hands, and that
was that deal. That was the signing of the papers
per se. So you know, it's still an i iological thing.
It's still a visual acknowledgment, you know, so everybody can see, Yes,

(40:05):
I signed that paper basically with this person. I'm confirming
what this person is doing and what we're doing together
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Brian, Hey, thanks for calling in man, thanks for listening.

Speaker 15 (40:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Have a good day you as well. Yeah, Howie Mandel
would definitely have not not liked the whole spin on
the handshake the hand thing. That definitely would have messed
him up. What do you How do you think germophobes
like even lived life back then, you weren't a germophobe.
There was no reason to be. Germophobia is something that
you learn based on the fact that you get scared
by the pictures. They show up bacteria in your textbooks

(40:35):
when you're twelve years old. There's no reason to be.
There's germs everywhere. The people who locked themselves during COVID
and just refuse to leave anywhere and would wear masks
in their own house and stuff like that my brother,
they still got COVID. So what's that tell you? German? Germans,
Germs are gonna Germ. Brenda's on a phone line of
four oh two, five, five, eight to eleven ten, Brenda,
what do you got on your mind today?

Speaker 8 (40:57):
Well, I'm just curious why. I know. But he has
mentioned that he has a cane in his right.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Hand, does he.

Speaker 8 (41:07):
He has a case?

Speaker 1 (41:08):
He has he's pulled himself up with a cane.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
But if you look, you've.

Speaker 8 (41:13):
Been talking about this and everybody's been talking about it.

Speaker 12 (41:15):
So I had to go look myself, and his left
hand has the Bible and his right hand has the cane.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I'm watching, I'm watching.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
I just went on Twitter and I'm watching it right
now while I'm talking to you. He has a brown.

Speaker 6 (41:28):
Cane in his right hand.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
You're seeing that, Matt. You know what, maybe she has
one of those CSI zoom technologies to zoom in.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I can't. I mean, it does it does kind of
look does what it does? Kind of look like he's
got hey hold on a sec Yeah, it does kind
of look like his hands. Yeah, we're looking at different
we're looking at different things here that I mean, that's
a oh yeah. Yeah, that uh, that would change things
right there. That changes things right there? Thank you, Yeah, thanks, Brenda. Yeah,

(42:01):
that's a good It does kind of look like that's
been a little bit cropped out of the video. Brenda's
a pruder coming in with some new evidence here, what's
going on? It does kind of look like, I mean,
he does dismiss it, but now that she says that,
it kind of does look like he's got something in
his hand. It does, which would lead you believe, like, Kamala,

(42:24):
why are you reaching out to guys that's got the
cain in the hand that you're reaching for and it
didn't really give him a whole lot of opportunity to
or And this also goes back to does he say
something under his breath? What is that word that he says?
Does he just say okay or yeah or no thanks
or whatever like that? Could that changes things a bit? Brenda? Oh,

(42:46):
that's good. That's good, real quick. Let's get Tom in here. Tom,
what's on your mind on this?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (42:53):
One thing I'd like to point out is whether he
intentionally didn't shake her hand or not. I hear a
lot of people on here taking Bruce to task for
not shaking her hands, which I would have too under
the situation, I would have shook her hand, even though
I have absolutely no respect for Kamala Harris. Sure, but
the thing I don't hear is when Pelosi tore up

(43:17):
the State of Union address, I didn't hear any Democrats
taking her to task for it. And that was pretty childish.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Oh it was. It was tom But I think they
were all probably in on it and thought that it
was a big joke because they are so unaware of
the way that they look. They think that they're in
this little club of the cool kids and everybody's going
to laugh and join in with the joke or whatever.
And it's kind of like the class clown that decides
to do something really stupid just because everybody's going to

(43:43):
like give them an audience and like laugh at them
or clap for them or something. And that's exactly what
she did that for Now, this this is a little
different because it's a person a person.

Speaker 16 (43:51):
Take the two sides.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, yeah, this is a little different cause this a
person a person. But you can tell that they just
have no room for interpretation. They just think this guy
is a terrible person, regardless because they thought they made
it about him, and there's something to be said for
just the lack of self awareness on that side of
the aisle generally, like, for sure, thanks for the call, Tom,
appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (44:15):
You can tell.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yeah, I got a bunch of emails. I'll get to
here if you want to call, and you can four
L two five to five eight eleven ten. Four L
two five five eight eleven ten. It's interesting. It's interesting.
A lot of the video that's out there, it does
crop out the lower part of the video to a
point where if he's holding a cane, you can't see it,
You really can't see it. That's crazy to me that

(44:42):
nobody's noticing that. Gina just sent me a picture. By
the way, he's absolutely holding a cane. It's a picture
like the actual official photo that they showed that they
took afterwards. Now he still does not look like a
happy camper that he's there, but he's holding a cane
in his right hand. So wow, yikes. Somebody needs to

(45:03):
get on social media and start correcting this stuff fast,
because I mean, that changes the complexion of this conversation
quite a bit. It does, it sure does. Wow. Anyway,
three twenty we'll talk more news Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
Emrie Sunger on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
You cannot see what's in his right hand, if there
was anything in his right hand. And we are being
told now from Brenda that she noticed a cane from
whatever video she saw, and then we got the official
photo that was taken by the people there, and you
can see he's got the cane in his right hand.

(45:46):
It's the same photo they're posing for after she tried
to shake his hand. He doesn't grab it from anywhere,
he doesn't go anywhere with it. Is there any way
that the cane is a deep fake? Oh shut up.
So I'm going on every single post on social media
and I am copy and pasting. How is he supposed

(46:07):
to shake her hand? He's got a cane in his
right hand. I am doing this. Man, that's hilarious. And
this is like the definition of.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know, that's that's crazy, something running off before the
truth could get his pants off. Yeah, I know, I know,
I know, but I'm I'm I'm literally posting every single
every single one of these. So if you hear me
clicking and typing, I am posting on every single one
of these. We are getting the truth out there, ladies
and gentlemen, brand the MVP of the show. Nothing that

(46:42):
we do the rest of the show is going to top.
That totally changes the conversation. David's is on the phone
line at four h two five five, eight eleven ten.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Dennis?

Speaker 15 (46:53):
Yes, I'm seventy seven years old, I've had COVID and
I wouldn't shake anybody's hand, even in my own family.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
So how many?

Speaker 15 (47:02):
How many hands did she shake that day? He obviously
has a health problem as well, So even if he
didn't have the cane, I don't know that I would
be doing anything but this bumping anybody.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, I mean that's a that's a good point too.
You never know what people are, you know, going through
health wise, if that's part of the thing. But I'm
telling you what now that I'm looking at this and
I know that he's got a cane in his hand,
how is he supposed to shake her hand?

Speaker 15 (47:26):
And I watched the same video that that she called
in on and he definitely has a cane in his Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I mean, like you just have to get the right
video that doesn't crop the bottom of it out. I mean, gosh, unreal,
unreal stuff.

Speaker 15 (47:40):
Yep. But it's typical the way they push things nowadays.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
It is exactly and this is what we tell you.
The car was so much, so far before the horse
on this on social media and we just kind of
took the conversation from there and I just like that.
This is wild to me, man, just wild, but very interesting.
I appreciate the call, Dannis Thinks for listening to us today.
Thank you, thank you. Do we have a talk back

(48:05):
you said we do? Who sent it? It is from
from Jeff? What Jeff have to say? Just about the handshake? Yeah,
all right, Jeff on the talkback app. He's a handshake. Hey, imring,
this is Jeffy. I love y'all show. Thanks.

Speaker 13 (48:20):
Just watch the video online and I tell you it's embarrassing.
He's looking down, not given eye contact. He's actually passing
the Bible over to her. Senator Fisher. He clearly sees
the hand come out and he refuses and frankly, that's
it's just not that's just not our way. It's not Nebraska,

(48:42):
it's not Republican. It is an embarrassment.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah, and I would agree, I would agree, But the
whole him having the Caine in the hand totally changes
just the ability he would have had to shake her
hand anyway. Cain in his right hand, he's passing the Bible,
as Jeff mentions to like, he's in the process of
kind of passing it back over to Senator Fisher, and

(49:06):
I don't is there a way you could have made
that work? Yes, but this goes back to your point
he says something. What does he say, because that's when
she pulls her hand away. Does that have something to
do with this, because honestly, if she would have reached out,
theoretically you could just moved the cane. You could have
just like tucked the cane. You would have you know,

(49:28):
you know, there's a way to have made it happen
if she would have hung on long enough, right, she
could have waited for him to have a free hand.
But he also may have said something that just kind
of said, I'm not shaking your hand, kind of like
an acknowledgment. And he looks straight, like Jeff said, he
definitely looks straight at the hand. I don't know handgate

(49:49):
handshake gate in full effect here, But the conversation is
a lot different than it was an hour ago before
we had the information that he actually was holding a
cane in his right hand. It's crazy stuff. We probably
should move on. I got some emails I want to
read about this, and I'm going to get to those,
and then we're going to talk about the passing of
the torch. Essentially, it's official today. The Senate, the House

(50:13):
of Representatives, all of Congress, Kamala Harris certified Donald Trump's victory.
And we'll tell you the implications when we come back
on news radio eleven to ten kfab. The show started
with me noticing this and talking about it. It's kind
of a crop video, but it's a video of Deb
Fisher getting sworn in by Kamala Harris for her new

(50:33):
term in the Senate, and Bruce, her husband of fifty
two years, walks up there. He holds the Bible, she
does the oath on the Bible, and then after she
does the oath, then Kamala says congratulations, shakes Deb Fisher's hand.
Deb Fisher says thank you and all that stuff, and
then they offer. Kamala reaches her hand toward Bruce, who

(50:58):
basically just nods and says thank you, and I can
confirm it says thank you, big thanks, to Beth in
my email. Beth sent me a video where you can
really clearly hear the audio, and it definitely says sounds
like he says thank you, and Kamalod kind of does
the ope kind of thing and she smiles and it

(51:21):
looks awkward. But we had a caller, Brenda, in the
last half hour that wanted to say, it looks like
he's carrying a cane in his right hand. So we
watched the video over and over again. And it's hard
to see in the crop version, the smaller version that's
going everywhere on social media, but it does clearly appear
that he is holding a cane, and the cane is

(51:44):
visible when he's in the photo. Now, I'm not I
can't say that this has everything to do with him
denying the handshake, and you can tell kind of by
the way he's carrying himself. I don't think he had
any intention in shaking her hand, for he walked up there.
That wasn't part of what he agreed to do. But
I it changes the complexion of the conversation significantly. If

(52:09):
he's got the Bible in his left hand and a
cane in his right hand, he's trying to stand up.

Speaker 10 (52:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I'll get to some emails here, but first we have Jeff,
who we played a talk back from from Jeff before
the break, and he said, this is a bad look
for Nebraska, and it is. It is, And even without
the cane situation, like if it's tough to go online
right now, nobody cares. I'm doing the best that I
can to fight the good fight on social media. But

(52:34):
I am the only person that is talking about the
cane in his hand, okay, And this is gonna be
an uphill battle for them to say anything other than
this was a disrespectful move by a guy. So I
understand that. I understand. I understand that the the the
what do they say, the cattle is out of the barn?

Speaker 10 (52:56):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Yeah, the horse is out of the bar right on,
trying to lock, trying to lock the bar, and after
the horse has art a bit, it's tough tough to
get the horseback right. But Jeff has sent us another
talk back, and I wanted to play this just so
Jeff could get clearance on what he thinks about this.

Speaker 13 (53:11):
Yeah, I Ambery, You're absolutely right. It completely changes the picture.
This is Jeff Again, I didn't see them before I
was wrong and I completely understand now, yeah, I take
back what I said. And again, great show, guys, love
the weird, getting the truth out to everybody. We need
to pass this on to the masses that we should

(53:32):
slow down our knee jerk reactions. Myself included, Hey, take
care guys.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, Jeff, And honestly, this is what we do. We
talk about stuff. I have Stacy who's emailed in I
got to get to this. Stacy sent me an email
and said she laughs at him before he even gets
set to where he was supposed to stand. You're not
dissecting her, among other things, she says, we she says

(53:58):
something along the lines of it's okay, we're not going
to bite or something, or we don't bite, you know. Oh,
she says that in the audio, she says that to him. Yeah,
Kamala does because he's he's standing like behind deb and
they kind of have to get him in front of
Deb and so he eventually gets to the right spot.
He doesn't have a very interactive face, so you can't

(54:19):
see that he's like smiling or anything. He just kind
of moves and he's got the Mitch McConnell's stoneface thing
going on and what ends up happening after that? Right,
she does the oath, takes like fifteen seconds, and after
that they do the interaction or whatever. Why would I

(54:42):
dissect what she has to say. She didn't say anything disrespectful.
Nothing about this was super disrespectful. But Stacy, it wasn't
enough for Stacy. Stacy says, as someone who's handicapped and
uses a cane. And again I didn't see the cane
until Brenda brought it up. Matt, is it easy to
see the cane the vid? It is not. You can't
really see it at all.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
We watched that video many times to try to dissect
what was being said, all the different movements and all that.
Brenda great eyes, eagle eye, Brenda picked out that cane
from the video and changed everything.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
And when we were able to look for that specifically,
you can kind of tell based on what he's like
it because the cane color blends into what he's wearing. Okay,
so that changed how we saw it. This was not
us trying to be flippant about that, but he or she.
I don't know if Stacy's a man or a woman,
But your viral nuttiness over Bruce Fisher was annoying. It's

(55:34):
a free country. Bruce doesn't need to shake her hand.
I don't disagree with that. We didn't disagree with that.
You could shake or not shake whoever's hand you you
don't want. All I'm saying is it doesn't look good.
It doesn't look good, and it's tough to defend unless
you can openly come out of here and say he's
holding a cane. Now, I'm trying to fight the good

(55:55):
fight on social media. I'm doing the best I can.
I'm jumping on every single one of these arts threads
and sharing the photo that shows him clearly holding a
cane and trying to say how was he supposed to
shake her hand? That still doesn't mean that people of
the court of public opinion have already made up their
mind on this. So I told Stacy to take a

(56:15):
chill pill. This is a talk show. We talk about things.
And Stacy has since replied, you should be calming down
talking about me. You made a big deal out of nothing,
and now you were wrong, calmer and you are Did
did I not say that I'm wrong? I was wrong?

Speaker 9 (56:31):
Not?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
I really didn't feel like I had much of a
conviction in anything I was saying. I was just talking
about it, which you know on a talk show you
talk about things.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, calmer than you are, dude, that's from The Big Lebowski. Sorry,
I'm full of movie references today.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah, I mean this. Forty year olds are really enjoying
this kid.

Speaker 9 (56:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Anyone above that is probably like, who is this guy?
Get him off my radio? Can I actually readdress something?
For the very first thing I said about this, and
this is this is a moment that I stand proudly
in front of you to talk about. The first thing
I said when you brought this up was the moment
on the the Three Stooges sketch when Curly takes the stand. Now,

(57:12):
I didn't know all these things were about to happen.
I had no clue. And I mentioned that little sketch
when Curly from the Three Stooges takes the stand and
the classic episode of the Three Stooges called Disorder in
the Court. You know what Curly has in his right hand? No,
he has a cane.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
No, yes, life imitates haar, it imitates life. Yep, unreal.
A couple other emails here, I mean Shirley sent this
email and I don't disagree with this, but I'm not
going to do this. Why don't you reach out to
Defishal's office and ask if her husband walks with a cane,

(57:53):
verify it rather than keep digging deeper. We're just talking.
We're just talking, man, It's just us talking. It's on
social media, it's everywhere now. I don't know if the
big news networks gonna pick this up. I'm sure it's
gonna go viral there. But again, if it's misinformation, it
has everything to do with the cane. You see the
cane in the photo. I know he's got a cane
in his hand. Now we can verify that based on

(58:14):
the photo. The video doesn't do a whole lot to
help us with that, but the photo does. We don't
know if the cane goes all the way to the ground.
We don't.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
We can't see the ground. If I was a lawyer
right now, it's a kad. You prove the cane goes
to the ground. What if it's just the top of
the came. Oh, he just carried herunt at the top
of the cane. That's just says stop, stop, come on.
But we're not digging deeper into this. We're just saying,
why wouldn't he shake her hand? Well, this is one
of the reasons why he wouldn't shake her hand. His
hands were full.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Okay, and I don't I'm not gonna ask deb Fisher
about something so trivial. She's a senator needing to get
to work and Washington, DC. We're a talk show that
talks about things. This is not earth breaking, earthquaking, title
waving stuff that we're speaking about. It's just a fun
conversation to try to understand the way people are acting

(59:00):
or reacting about things in America. That's it. Digging deeper
into it from there is the irresponsible use of time
to people who are actually doing important jobs. Fair enough,
Jim's on the line for two, five, five, eight to
eleven ten. What say you, Jim?

Speaker 5 (59:16):
Hey, Emory, Hey, I just want a different a little
bit of a different perspective. Okay, Tamala was not watching
or not enough spatial awareness to see that the man
was holding the cane and she was gonna want her
to be in charge of this country. You know, you
would think that she would have seen that.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah, I mean, you're you're right, Jim. Unfortunately, the guy
that she was serving under president didn't really even know
where his own feet were most of the time. So
I don't know how much we can compare and assume
that when the guy who's actually the president for the
last four years didn't know where he was at half
the time.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
Well, what I'm saying alls I mean is it's a
pretty big deal over nothing. He ass me of the
four years of what we endured. So yeah, that's all
I got to say.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Thanks, thanks to appreciate it. Yeah, And I don't disagree
with that either. I'm just saying like it might be
no big deal or whatever, but everybody's talking about it.
It's it's the viral thing that's happening today. On a
day in which they certified the election results for the
presidential race and Kamala Harris had to say the number
of the votes out loud that she lost the election

(01:00:25):
to everyone because she's the vice president and certify those results.
The thing more people are talking about then that at all,
is this deb Fisher scenario. And guess what, she's a
senator of our state. So I'm talking about it that
ruffles your feathers one way or the other. I'm having
fun talking about it to be honest with you, and
we're just having fun. And if it's more serious than that,

(01:00:46):
that's on you. Guys. We're having fun. Please keep having
fun with us. We're in a sandbox, just making our
little sand castles together, and we enjoy you for being
a part of our sand castle building today on the radio,
that was probably awful. I apologize for the visual.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
I liked it. It painted a great visual, and I'm
right there with you. I got the bucket, I got
the pail.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
You're here in swin trunks, got your sunscreen on, Yeah,
got your bucket hat. Yeah. Well, we'll keep we'll keep
trying to have fun in the sandbox. Next on news
Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 6 (01:01:20):
And Marie Sungner on News Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
You know, holidays, just a lot of stuff started to
slow down. You know, I'd call it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
I'd call it a couple hours of solid infotainment, you know,
I exactly. We didn't get everything right along the way,
because you know, this is live radio, you know, you know,
and we were just going off of whatever what else
was going off of. But I think we learned a lot,
we grew a lot over these last two hours. I
certainly did me too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, you know, it was a good experience to learn
about this real time and have a local connection and
have so many people with such strong opinions. This is good,
said the conversations people are too afraid to have. And
you and me setting the example of being like very
easily very uh like, Hey, new information came. I reserved

(01:02:12):
the right to change my mind on the way that
I look at this. And we did that real time, right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I think that that is the uh that is everyone,
every human's right that when you have new information enter
your world, then you have a right to change the
way you feel about something. I think that you know,
you got to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Be that way. I'm just I'm thankful. I'm thankful for uh,
for all of the listeners, and I'm thankful for people
who care about true information and like to talk to
us about different things. And you know, maybe we did
jump the gun a little bit without having all the
information there, but as the information came out, we were

(01:02:53):
able to able to correct ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
And you mentioned jumped the gun. The Penguin and Batman
had a cane that actually turned into a gun.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
That's true, that's true. Did you watch The New Penguin
where was that is that Disney? Oh that wouldn't beat Disney.
Where's that show at? It looks at dark for Disney. Yeah,
it's Apple.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Is that with what's his name? It's on Max And
that's Russell Crowe is playing Penguin?

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Am I right about that? No, Colin Ferrell, I get
those two confused. That's my fault. Yeah, it's Colin Ferrell. Yeah. Yeah,
it's a pretty dark show. I didn't watch it, but
a lot of people had a lot of good things
to say about it. Does Batman have the best world
of all the superheroes? I know that they like the

(01:03:41):
Marvel universe. They were able to connect all the Avenger
types and have those crazy movies that were two hundred
and fifty million dollars in budget. You know, yeah, but
they made a billion dollars and we're just in crazy,
crazy productions. Good movies. Twenty three movies in that first
phase of Marvel movies. Twenty three that's a ton of movies.

(01:04:02):
That's so many, and you really need to watch all
of them if you want the like if Endgame is
gonna hit the way it's a designed to hit, you
have to watch the other twenty two movies. And I
don't know, like there's so much that happens in those
movies that you have to say, like the world in

(01:04:23):
and of itself is a success. And then they introduce
the multiverse into the mix that you can like low
Ki's TV show on Disney Plus kind of introduces the
idea that you can kind of jump between different universes,
and so that kind of opens the thing up to
like anything can happen with anybody kind of thing. However,

(01:04:44):
at the same time, you have Batman, who's basically lived
in the same universe, in the same city, with a
lot of the same villains since the very first comics
have come out. They haven't had to change a whole
lot about who's there and who's not there. They just
redefine what some of these are. The Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie,

(01:05:05):
Batman's not even in that, Like technically Bruce Wayne as
a child is in it, but it's really it has
nothing to do with Batman. They were able to make
a standalone movie that was all about the origin story
of one of the chief villains of Batman Massive.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I've never seen the movie, but I've been provided the spoiler.
I could I mean, you could say, one could say
that the Joker's not in that movie either.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Oh, come on, come on, don't get mad on me here.
Slightly meta, sure. And the Penguin, by the way, is
a spinoff from the The Batman movie, which was what's
his face? The Twilight Guy Robert Pattinson's Batman movie, right,

(01:05:57):
and a lot of people love that one. Yeah, I
was just saying, it's a different take on the same
guy in the same story. It's pretty crazy how they
keep making that. Hey anyway, More on the Way on
news radio eleventhon KFAB