Healthy Skepticism

Healthy Skepticism

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
A video that was shared by a profile called nostalgia,
which anybody could name an account nostalgia, but it has
almost a million followers on x and it quite literally
is just posting photos and videos of things that will
make you think of a time gone by. And Matt

(00:20):
I posted on my personal x I shared this and
it says, point of view. It's two thousand and four
and you wake up at three am to this commercial
blasting from the TV and it's one of those old school,
you know, multi CD sets with a bunch of soft
rock love songs. Did you ever stay up late enough
to catch some of these, you know, music based CD

(00:43):
set infomercials that would last thirty minutes? Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Those were the days, weren't they. You just stay up
and it'd be three in the morning and you didn't
know why you were still awake. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I mean, I wouldn't call them the days. I remember
when I'd see those, that would be a good reminder
of like what am I doing right now?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Why am I still up? Why am I watching this?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah? But as a night owl, I mean I just
remember just feeling so free, just so free. It is
just I don't know, like there's I just I love
I love it. I want to go back, just for
a little bit. Just just take me back to three
am on a random July overnight when I have absolutely

(01:26):
nothing to do the next day or the next two
or three days. You know, I'm fourteen, thirteen, fourteen years old,
I don't have a job.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yet.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Take me back to that moment. That is, that is
the truest freedom I will ever know in my entire life.
Staying awake in my bedroom at fourteen years old, staying
up as late as I possibly can, knowing I could
sleep all day the next day, or take a nap
during the day, go outside and you know, mess around
in the yard place, you know, shoot hoops by myself,

(01:56):
and just watch some baseball, the White Sox game that evening.
I mean, come on, come on. It doesn't get any
better than that. Anyway, That's my nostalgia. Maybe some other
people are like, that's not freedom, man, that's just you
being lazy. Yes, it was, and I liked it at
fourteen years old. It doesn't get much better than that,

(02:17):
at least to me. So anyway, do find myself always
looking for the biggest and best nostalgia that I can
possibly have on a day to day basis, and maybe
you joined me. I don't know about a lot of
younger people. But one of the TV shows that was
on the USA Network, which you know I watched the

(02:38):
USA Network. They got some Premier League soccer that I
like to watch. They have had you know, other sporting events.
They are one of the NBC networks that will carry
the Olympics when the Olympics are going on, which is
always fun. They have you know, wrestling is on their channel,
and you know I like to watch wrestling. A show

(03:00):
that they had that somehow got popular was called chrisly
Knows Best or right, chrisly Knows Best. Have you watched that?
I know you trolled me for me watching Hogan Knows
Best back in the day.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, I didn't troll you, but I think that I
just think reality shows are generally funny. I did not
watch chrisly Knows Best, so I wouldn't. Yeah, not really
my scene, I suppose, But.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I never got it. Never quite understood how they got
a TV show. This is not like a TLC show.
It's like my six hundred pound life, right.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, I think it's the same.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
You could apply the same principle in the world, in
the space that Pat McAfee lives in. I really know
almost next to nothing about these Christlies, but I think.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Either why are they famous? I couldn't figure out how
they even got a TV shows.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
It feels like there is enough people just are generally
fascinated by obnoxiousness, and I don't fully understand it.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Wellris trap as well well Todd Chrisley is a different
brand of obnoxious than Pat McAfee is, but obnoxious would
be a good word. I think his his kind of
a candor and in the way that he talks, and
he's got the big Southern accent, and yeah, he's got
the wife. I never quite understood why they were famous,
Like I was trying to figure it out. I didn't

(04:18):
know like what the deal was. But anyway, they had
a TV show. It ran for a while, then the
kids had a TV show, Growing Up Chrisly. How did
they do this? How did they they were already rich?
Do they find ways to like get on television because
they were rich? That probably helped put me on TV.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I'm not a black get a song that made it
across the world because she had money. She had money
to pay for it she had money to find a
producer that could produce a spot that was you know,
they could produce a song that that would reach people's ears. Yeah,
it's just it's people with money getting special treatment.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
You are using the term song and music very liberally.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Talking about literally. Yeah, I mean it's literally music and
a literal song. You know, you can argue it's artistic qualities, but.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Or lack thereof.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Oh sure, and you know what, some people love it.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
No, nobody loves it. People love it ironically. They don't
love it because it was good.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Helps people remember what day came after Friday and then
what day came after Saturday.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
So I thought it was helpful.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, no, it was not helpful and it was not good.
And don't go looking for it because it will never
leave your brain anyway. So apparently the Chrystally couple, Donald
Trump is part of them. The quote from Donald Trump
was in the Look I don't know. He said that
they were treated unfairly. Essentially, Trump said they were given

(05:44):
pretty harsh treatment. Based on what I'm hearing, pretty harsh treatment.
Congratulate your parents. I hear they're terrific people. This should
not have happened. This was on a call with Savannah Cchrisley,
one of their kids. Savannah, of course wearing the Make
America Great Again ball caps and all that stuff we
talked about Pardons. I don't give two petits about the Chrislies.

(06:09):
They were accused of crimes that had nothing to do
with me. They were indicted in August of twenty nineteen
initially and found guilty in twenty twenty two. In summer
of twenty twenty two, a few years later, they were
found guilty of bank fraud, tax evasion, and conspiring to
defraud the irs. They were charged with one count of

(06:30):
the conspiracy to commit bank fraud, five counts of bank fraud,
one count of conspiracy to defraud the United States, one
count of tax fraud. Julie Chrisly, the woman, was charged
with one count of wire fraud, one count of obstruction
of justice, and they were found by prosecutors to be
guilty of submitting fake documents to banks as they were

(06:53):
applying for lums. Again, these are rich people, and they
had a TV show. I don't know what the heck
I like, what would be the point of them going
out there? I have absolutely no idea, and I'm not
going to pretend like I'm an expert in their case,
I am not. I do remember when they were about
to go to jail, they were doing a podcast together
and they were kind of talking about, well, this is
a lot of podcasts will do before we go to jail,

(07:14):
and it was all sad and stuff, and I just
had kind of a sick fascination. I guess of what
people who know that they're about to go to jail
would say on a podcast. But even up to the
very end, they were making content to try to, you know,
make themselves as famous as possible. And after two and
a half years of serving jail time of their twelve
and seven year sentences, they're released. They're free. Donald Trump

(07:36):
has released them. So what Donald Trump have done this
if they were people that did not regularly wear hats
that say make America great Again?

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Are they going to go back and get another TV show?
I mean that would be my guest, right if you're
NBC or the USA network, aren't you thinking to yourself like, yeah,
let's get these guys back on TV. Let's go time
to capitalize now. I don't know, it just it feels weird.
I get that the president has the ability to pardon
whomever he wants. I get that this has been a
subject that we have covered when Biden was going through

(08:07):
his pardons at the end of his presidency, and how
weird it felt when he pardoned his own family when
he was partoning you know, a variety of different people,
and people like you should be able to do that.
How can you do this? But I'm sure that the
same people on the political right that said all that
about Biden, they're cheering on the Chris Lies. Yeah, that's fine,

(08:30):
good job, you know. I don't Again, I don't know
enough about the case to know if they were treated
unfairly or they actually did try to defraud the United
States of America and the irs despite their millions of dollars.
They wouldn't be the first rich people to try to
get out of taxes. I feel like that's happened on
several occasions, not in this country, but all over the world.

(08:51):
And then of course you have the liberal left to say, oh,
Biden can pardon whoever the heck he wants, and they're
gonna be the ones that are crying from the rooftops.
Why are you pardoning these celebrities? They did not need
this is you just trying to be friends with celebrities
or something, you know? So there you go, There you
have it. We have the Chrislies are free. So Matt,
get that DVR set, get ready to get yourself lined

(09:14):
up with some chrisly knows best because I'm sure the
next iteration of that show's coming out and they'll be
talking all about how awesome Donald Trump is and how
terrible jail was.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think I'm gonna plan to forget to do that.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Oh come on, come on, Todd Chrisly who uh. He'll
be really loud about it, and he'll talk in a
very Southern accent and be very charismatic on screen, and
you can't help but to watch what he and his
wife Julie are up to. The kids are growing too,
Like what's even going on in the house now right,

(09:48):
Like like are they all living in like a compound
together at this point? Like or are they all living
their own lives? Because like part of the show, as
far as I knew, was like Todd and Julie trying
to raise the these kids, and like that was part
of the show. Is like just the way that they
would parent their kids with this affluent lifestyle that they have,

(10:09):
but they were still kind of trying to be hard
on them, at least that's how it was portrayed in
the show. It's just like, hey, you got to work
hard to make it your in this world. You know, well,
what do you do when the kids aren't there all
the time? They got their own lives now, So I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Did they do it?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I don't know. I mean, they went to court and
they were found guilty on all those counts that he
just said. He was sent into twelve years. She was
sentence to seven years. I'm supposed to be like, I'm
supposed to believe that, oh, it was just made up
and they didn't do anything, and the justice system failed
these two rich people who allegedly did put fake documents

(10:44):
together when they were applying for bank loans. Like I'm
supposed to feel bad for them on that. I don't know.
I guess I need to look in in Deep Dive.
But I'll be honest, just as much as you're not
super interested in watching chrisly knows Best, assuming that it
gets revived now that they're out of prison, I'm gonna
go ahead and try not to think too much about
what this court case was, because it has nothing to

(11:04):
do with me, and I don't really care about these people.
I just know the political ramifications of just pardoning famous
people like this who seemingly had a pretty solid court
case against them. I don't know how well it's going
to look to people on the other side. That's all
I'm throwing out there. Maybe we need somebody to go
back through it and make like a Making a Murderer
the type documentary, except the Making a fraud Frauderer and

(11:31):
it's a story about the Christlies defrauding the government. Like,
maybe that's what we need. Do you think Netflix or
USA Network would jump on that or do you think
they just want, you know, the Christlies to be back
on TV.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
It would be helpful for context. I would watch that
versus watching the show, That's for sure. I'd be because
that's really all that matters. Like, the conversation changes drastically
based on what that finding is. Right, Okay, so the
court already found them guilty. So they are guilty, right,
but we challenging that is there a new evidence to

(12:01):
suggest that they're not. So if they're not, this conversation
totally changes. But if they are, and this guy is
just pardoning his friends who wear his hats. To me,
if that's the case, it's a sign of a very
sick country. If the leaders of our country are pardoning
all their friends.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
You know what, I don't think you could argue with that.
To be honest, I don't know that that's what's happened here,
but I don't either. But I'm just saying if it is.
But if it is, I agree one hundred percent. Four
to twenty News Radio, eleven to ten kfab Emris, Creighton
and Nebraska. The corn Husker is going to be playing tomorrow.
For the corn Huskers, they will play against Oklahoma in

(12:38):
the second game of the two games in Chapel Hill.
North Carolina is the top seed of that regional. As
four team regional, everybody gets a chance to play. You
have to lose twice to be eliminated. But that means
you also have to see North Carolina lose twice if
you want to advance. Nebraska plays Oklahoma at four o'clock.
That's the scheduled start time tomorrow in Chapel Hill. North
Carolina will play Holy Cross in the early game at

(12:59):
all eleven am Central time, and the Nebraska game on
ESPN Plus. As for Creighton, they will be taking on
Kansas in the first round of the tournament. Their first game.
That's a seven PM scheduled start time on Friday. So
Tomorrow night they'll play against Kansas. That's down in Fayetteville
in Arkansas. The Razorbacks. Arkansas Razorbacks to the high seed

(13:20):
there and they take on the North Dakota State Bison
that is going to be in the opening game they'll
play before, so that the night game is going to
be Creighton against Kansas, and again it's all out in
front of them. They get at least two games. How
you feeling, Matt, this is the eve of the tournament.
You think both of these teams can at least get

(13:41):
to the regional final on Sunday and have a chance
to or Monday potentially and have a chance at making
a super Regional and make things pretty exciting for us
to maybe have a home team in the tournament in
the Cultural Series.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I don't know, just being pragmatic, I wouldn't put the
percentages over fifty percent. But it's gonna happen one of
these times. You know it's going to It has to
law of averages suggest that there's gonna be one of
these times that they're gonna break through.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
And I you know of averages well rightas well.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
But if you keep banging on the door, if you
keep making the regional and here's the thing, this is
building blocks, building blocks, building blocks, building blocks. The reason
why right now I'm sitting here as a New York
Knicks fan and I'm not shedding any tears that they're
down three to one against the Pacers is because they
didn't make it to the Eastern Conference Championship Series last year.

(14:37):
They did this year. Building blocks, Baby, that's a good thing.
The Huskers have made have won the Big Ten Tournament
two years in a row now, and they're back in
the regionals building blocks and they're playing Oklahoma. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
So why not?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
And here's the thing, Yeah, Gabe Swanson's out or not
Gabe Swanson, excuse me, Mason McConaughey. Mason McConaughey's out. And
you know, you got Gabe Swanson, which is gonna help.
But you know, this is a scrappy team that seems
to be playing their best ball right at the right time.
And of course Creighton has been you know, knocking things
very good out of the park there in the Big

(15:10):
East where they go forty and fourteen in the regular season.
Forty one and fourteen had great season, and so you know,
of course I'm sitting here dreaming of the idea. Can
you imagine if we get two local teams in the CWS.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, I'll take one. I don't want to be too
greedy here, but we need What we need to see
is I'd love to see him get to Sunday or
even Monday and force a chance to get to super Regional.
Then when they re stack the deck and see how
that's going to line up, then I think then we
can start dreaming if one or both are able to
get into that final sixteen. But we will see.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
I can tell you this. I don't see Danny Glover
out there as the general manager. But I'm back here
in the studio. I'm flapping my angel wings.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, okay, So I belright, Joseph Gordon.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Levitt, thank you, thank you. That's right.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Call me Joseph Gordon Levitt, because I believe, why not,
where's the guy from from Back to the Future. He's
going to show up and put a halo over one
of these players.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I believe that.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Ja.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, Chris Chris Brown, he was an angel in that movie. Yeah,
movie had sneakily had some really good people in it.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Tony Day McConaughey.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, McConaughey, what a movie.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
All right, he's talking of angels in the outfield four
point thirty.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
We'll come back.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
We got more on the way on news radio eleven
ten KFAB And we're blessed to have good people who
really care about this community, and I want to continue
to see it grow in that way. And that's exactly
what we do the best that we can. Uh. So
big things to her for allowing us to be a
part of it in a lot of different ways.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
With that being said, Okay, so we we look at
this h and we're we're looking hardcore. We stare at
it from from a distance, and we're trying to figure
out what this world looks like. And I have an
audio clip that I'm going to play here. Hopefully I
don't have anything too crazy going on in the background.
I got like fifty tabs up. I don't usually play

(17:04):
stuff off my computer, Matt tell the people. Usually I
send it to you and then you're the one that
has to play it on your.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Computer, right right generally? Yep.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, So if you hear some weird sounds coming, it's
not my fault. I plead the fifth. Here's Jake Tapper.
Why is Jake Tapper in the news You might forgotten?
Last week? It was his book, oddly enough, the guy
who Donald Trump has gone to war with figuratively over
certain things. Jake Tapper, big critic of Donald Trump on CNN,

(17:32):
which many people consider it to be fake news, as
Donald Trump said it in his first term. And Jake Tapper,
along with Dana Bash from CNN where the moderators of
that disastrous first debate that Joe Biden had with Donald
Trump last June, and that was kind of what really
sent the Biden reelection campaign into a spiral. And Jake

(17:55):
Tapper decided to write a book along with the axioses
Alex Thompson, and it came out last week and it
is it's weird, right, So it's called Original Sin and
it's you know, and the sub header is President Biden's decline,
it's cover up and his disastrous choice to run again.

(18:18):
And I haven't read it. I read the excerpts that
people were putting out here. But it's a very detailed
book and it's basically like covering up the mental decline.
And a lot of people are saying, gee whiz, that
that was pretty heavy stuff. Well, Jake Tapper has no
friends in the Democrat Party right now, I tell you
what I mean. He has absolutely put himself in a

(18:40):
situation where now is just like, wow, now you're sumearing Democrats.
I thought you were on our side, Jake, but I
don't know. Here's Jake Tapper and this is something that
he said. And again I want to reiterate this. I
don't want people to think that Jake Tapper is what
I would consider to be a quote unquote journalist, right.

(19:02):
I think he, along with ninety eight percent of the
people that you're seeing on news television on the national networks,
they're not news anchors just to give you information. I mean,
there are people like that, but most of the time,
especially in the national news the twenty four hour news

(19:22):
cycle networks, the people that are giving you the news
are also people who are giving opinions on the news,
and they are doing it from a bias to fit
the spectrum or the piece of the spectrum that their
network exists in and that is different for every network,
but you really kind of have to tell the story
from that angle, and they can bring in the token
person that is, you know, trying to be like Scott

(19:46):
Jennings is that is kind of the right wing thinker
of CNN. Right, they'll have him on in the evenings
as part of a panel. You want to have some
people that will be disagreeing with the rest of the group,
and that's fine, but the people that are the main anchors,
they're not what I would consider legitimate journalists. They are
more entertainers than they are journalists. They'll give you information,

(20:06):
but they also come from a very specific angle. Well, now,
Jake Tapper, just a few years after people were considered,
maybe even just a year after people considered him to
be a very left leaning person in national news, not
necessarily the most unbiased and fair person. Here's something that
he had to say when he was being interviewed about

(20:27):
his book release.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
And I think that we need to be skeptical of
everything that we are told by people in power. And
I mean that obviously should be the mantra of being
a journalist to begin with. If your mother tells you
she loves you get a second source. We just need
to remember that, like politicians.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Lie, White House is lie.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Power is an afrodisiac, and we just need to all
remember that and not take at face value anything that
we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
So, yeah, and it's crazy to hear him say this because,
as you would think, Jake, you're in your fifties, You've
been a professional at this. You've been on you know,
national and international television for you know, years and years,
well over a decade. You've been in you know, you
did journalism school, and I know, like I said, I
wouldn't qualify or look at these people like journalists. They

(21:18):
may try to see themselves that way. That's not true.
But maybe this is a turning point. Somebody who at once,
you know, at one point pretty recently was one of
the faces of one of the major news networks in
America coming out and saying, look, you can't trust anybody,
even the people on the side that we felt like
we could trust. Even though our eyeballs were telling us

(21:41):
all the story. We weren't. You weren't just saying that.
We weren't just saying it because we were hoping that
a Republican would take office. We were seeing it and
noticing that Joe Biden was not the same person. Go
watch Joe Biden speaking twenty fourteen. Listen to Joe Biden
talking twenty twenty. Listen to Joe Biden talking twenty twenty
three or twenty four It was very, very evident that

(22:04):
this was not the same person, and it had everything
to do with age and everything to do with health.
It shouldn't have been overtly political. It became overtly political
the people who were trying to hide the fact that, oh, yeah,
he's having these issues remembering things and really even knowing
where he was at. It doesn't look great. It's hard

(22:25):
for us to imagine that this guy can run the country.
You know, I wouldn't even give him car keys to
drive around town, let alone have him be the most
powerful man in the free world. Okay, we could see that,
and for some reason, the you know, left leaning media
just refused to acknowledge it, because the White House told

(22:45):
them not to. Oh yeah, no, he's fine, he's fine.
You guys aren't seeing what you think you're seeing. He's fine.
And then we saw it, and then they had egg
on their face, and then they had to remove him
from the trail because they had no choice. Okay, it's
crazy to me to see this conversation take place, Jake
Tapper doing the rounds writing this book. Maybe this is

(23:08):
what it's going to take for people who want to
have some respect in their profession in the media as
a respectable journalist, legitimate journalist, not just a person who
wants to commentate or to put their angle or spin
on every political story. And if this is a turning point,

(23:28):
and maybe I'm overreading this, maybe i am, But if
it is a turning point, we can go back to
the Joe Biden debacle at the end of his presidency,
and maybe that could actually turn out to be quite
a positive that now all of a sudden, our national
media incentive cow towing are bowing down to one side
or the other just for entertainment's sake. Now we're starting
to ask the difficult questions, even to the side that

(23:49):
they are purported to support, that I think would be
healthy for America. But we get there. Only time will tell.