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October 18, 2024 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's cheers to a good weekend of college football and
that includes a good Big Ten matchup. I'm not so
sure many people thought would be this important. Halfway through
the college football season. The Nebraska Cornhuskers on the road
to take on the sixteenth ranked, unbeaten Indiana Hoosiers. Who

(00:22):
what a guest. Well joining us on the phone lines
right now to talk about this, to go behind enemy lines.
Zach Austerman. He covers the Indiana Hoosiers for the Indianapolis Star,
and he's joining us on the phone line. First off, Zach,
thanks so much for joining our program today.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Absolutely thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
All Right, So, I guess the first question we have
to have here is where did this come from? Six
and oho start for the Indiana Hoosier football team.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah. I think in terms of the idea that Indiana
could win its first six games, I don't know how
crazy that was. Looked at the schedule, the way it's
set up, who they played, when they played them, where
they played him. Obviously, to go with a clean sweep
over the first half is probably the best case scenario.
I think what's been more maybe surprising with turn more heads,

(01:15):
is how Indiana has done it. You know, they haven't
trailed for a snap ball season. They've scored forty plus
in five straight games. They've got one of the best
offenses in the Big Ten. You know, they might have
the best red zone offense in the country. The defense
that they're going to face this weekend is one of
the few defenses in the conference. It's more disruptive than
they are statistically speaking. So it's kind of been more

(01:37):
about how quickly, you know, kind of all this came
together for Kurt Signetti. And then I think the spaghetti
is also kind of the other piece of this, right, Like,
everybody through job season listened to what he said, the
quotes Google me and some of the stuff he said
at media days and all that, and thought, you know,
who is this guy? What's what's kind of is this
going to work at a place like Indiana. It's this
just bluster. And I think it's fair to say that,

(01:59):
you know, so far, he has certainly been backing it up.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, And I think that the biggest thing that you
can look at here from an Indiana perspective is, like
you said, statistically speaking, and I know we can look
at the schedule all day, but this is incredible, Like
some of the numbers that we're seeing here quarterback Curtis Rourke,
who is a senior. He's been around college football, but

(02:23):
he's completing over seventy three percent of his passes fourteen
touchdowns to only two interceptions. He is second in the
country in total quarterback Grading total QBR, which is an
ESPN stat. I don't know how much college coaches care
about that, but it highlights efficiency essentially. So when we're
looking at this and we look at this offense, is
it a product of the players specifically, is it a

(02:45):
product of the system, or is it more of a
product of just the competition and who they've played through
six games?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I mean, it's probably all three, you know, to some extent.
I think certainly when you look at Kurtz Signetti pass,
you know, this offense was a lot statistically speaking in
terms of its profile, like what he did at James Madison.
It's a little more passed than run, but it doesn't
commit a ton of penalties. It's very efficient on third
downs and short yardage situations. I mean, I think even

(03:16):
Signetti might be a little surprised at how good Indiana
has been in the red zone this season. Obviously they were,
they were off last weekend, and yet they still lead
the country in red zone attempts, scores and touchdowns. So
even through the bye week, they have more of those
than anybody else in the country, including or the conference,

(03:36):
excused me, including a couple of teams that have played
seven games. I think some of it is, you know,
the the talent that Signetti and his staff identified to
bring in. Obviously some pieces from James Madison. You talk
about a guy like Curtis Rourke. There are some other
you know, Miles Price, Miles Cross, Keishon Williams, and Indiana
is actually leading receiver in terms of touchdown passes or

(03:56):
touchdown catches. I guess I should say touchdown receptions guys
that didn't come from JMU. But we're transfers nonetheless. And
then some of it, undeniably is competition, although you know,
I think it's it's probably fair, for example, to point
at a team like Northwestern and say, well, Indiana went
to Northwestern. Northwestern is only allowing nineteen points per game.
Indiana scored forty one at Northwestern. I don't think anybody

(04:19):
else this season. I'd have to go back and look
at their stats, but I don't think anybody else to
see who's put up like twenty five against Northwestern this year.
So the point is it's, you know, it's it's even
when you sort of factor for the competition and whether
you're asking about whether it's scheme, whether it's talent, it's
kind of the way that it is all sort of

(04:40):
meshed very quickly, you know. I mean, Indiana had some
ticcups in that Week one game against Florida International. It's
kind of funny to say they only won it by
twenty four points. But when you look at what Indiana did,
you know, basically every game since then, you do kind
of look at that FIU game almost as like the
shakedown cruise that got a lot of the jitters out,
a lot of the bugs out of the system. And

(05:03):
now what you're seeing is something a lot more, you know,
just well constructed and put together, and it'll be interesting
to see how they handle Nebraska. On Saturday, we're.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Speaking with Zach Ostroman. He covers Indiana University athletics for
the Indianapolis Star, joining us on the phone line here.
All right, so let's go ahead and talk about this game.
In the crux of this it's a big Neon Saturday game,
so national television audience is going to be joining in
at this eleven am kickoff window in Bloomington. What can
we you know, note from an environment you've you've seen

(05:35):
a lot of who's your athletics? Football hasn't necessarily been
a place that people have been fearful of going into.
Not necessarily on a lot of people's list is you know,
hostile environments. Yet here's a sellout with the six and
zero team welcoming a five and one Nebraska team looking
to achieve Bowl eligibility for the first time in you know,
seven or eight seasons. And on top of that, you

(05:55):
throw in the fact that Nebraska doesn't have a lot
of like games will be they were probably second half
of the season, and Indiana looking at the rest of
their schedule, could be favored in all but maybe potentially
one of the games that they have the second half
of the season. What do you think about how important
this game is and is that truly how important it
is versus us just trying to make a storyline out

(06:18):
of this matchup that we didn't think was going to
matter a whole lot at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, I think it's important. I think, you know, listen, obviously,
every team's kind of on its own journey, but like
I use Indiana or not Indiana, I'm sorry, ESPN's Football
Power Index is kind of a handy reference just just
for a sense of where you know, the analytics kind

(06:44):
of see the conference at any given time. And if
you look at who Indiana's played in the Big Ten
right now, Indiana has beaten two teams that are both
predicted to go five and seven, and one team in
UCLA that I think is proticted to go three and nine.
And on the other hand, if the guy's got Nebraska
seven and five, it's Scott Washington right there, kind of

(07:06):
in the Bowl eligible range. You know, Michigan's numbers have
come down a little bit. Michigan States numbers are again
maybe kind of in that coin toss between getting five
wins or getting six wins. But the point is more,
you know, I think Indiana it kind of first both
because of where maybe they were perceived to be in
the conference and then also just the function of who

(07:27):
they played. Early on in the year, Indiana was kind
of seen, as you know, essentially in that bottom tier
in the conference. And the wins they picked up so
far have kind of moved them out of that. Now
you're moving more into I guess what you'd call like
the middle class of the conference. Teams that are going
to be in and around the bowl conversation. Six wins,

(07:49):
seven wins, eight wins are going to be filling up
bowls like the Penn Stripe, the Music City, the you know,
the the Mayonnaise Bowl, what the Duke's Mayo Bowl? What
we I I refuse to stop calling the Outback Bowl.
You know, if you if Indiana's going to be the
kind of team and I'm still not completely sure they're

(08:09):
going to get there, but if Indiana's going to be
the kind of team that is still kind of in
the conference race, in the playoff discussion, let's say in
the last two or three games of the season, the
next thing it's got to do is prove that it
can rise above not just the bottom of the league,
but the middle of the league. And that's kind of
what these next three games are, at least insomuch as
really anything can be for Indiana. You've got Nebraska and

(08:30):
then Washington and then you go to Michigan State for
a rivalry game, you know how Indiana navigates. I think
these these next three games to me kind of sets
the terms for what we are allowed to consider Indiana's
ambitions to be for the last three games of the season.
And you know, that's a that's a funky thing to say,
because listen, I mean I predicted Indiana to win any
games in the regular season. I still wouldn't have predicted

(08:53):
necessarily the way that Indiana has been winning these games
and how impressive they've looked so far. But I think
what's important for Indiana on Saturday. First of all, there
is an extent which, like this program has had some
of these moments in the recent past and not quite
risen to meet them, whether they were big home games
or bowl games or whatever. There is a little bit
of just kind of like it's a five and one team.

(09:15):
It's another team that is kind of on a similar
journey to where you are in terms of trying to
claw back into you know, sort of the middle top
part of the conference, trying to prove that it can
be a conference contender. Obviously, Matt Rule's been there one
year longer than Kirk Signetti, but I would imagine they
are both kind of in a similar process. If you
understand what I'm saying, it's homecoming, it's sold out, there's

(09:36):
more hype and energy around your program than you've had
in years, then you finally meet the moment basically, Like,
I think that's that's the question for Indiana this weekend specifically,
And it's not necessarily just because it's Nebraska, but I
do think you know, a name program, a brand program,
one that if they beat you, they'll be ball eligible
in six and one. So it's not like there's any

(09:58):
shame in losing it necessarily, but it's kind of like,
can you when you have this opportunity to sort of
seize all of this that you've created for yourself, can
you grab that? Because you know, frankly, this program, when
those opportunities that presented themselves in last into fifteen years,
just hasn't consistently been able to do that. And I

(10:20):
think that's what they're facing this weekend. And I think
if you extrapolate that over maybe the next three games,
it's kind of like just how high I can up
this ladder? Can you climb?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Essentially, Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Nebraska at Indiana's
an eleven AM kick just one loss for Nebraska, Indiana
unbeaten the Hoosiers or a six and a half point favorite.
That's in Memorial Stadium, the Indiana version of Memorial Stadium.
Just real quick here before I get you out of here, Zach,
what do you think happens? What's the final score going
to look like?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah? I think I mean I predicted Indiana to win
this game before the season. It's always hard to know
exactly how of you know, how reliable those predictions are
ever going to be, because you know, you don't know
what transfers are going to look like, the freshmen are
going to look like, or whatever. I do lean toward
Indiana winning. It's kind of one of those things. And listen,

(11:14):
I've covered Indiana football long enough to know exactly why
they jaded among the Indiana fan base, and there are
many of them will probably struggle to ever believe, no
matter how well it's playing, that their program can can
you know, kind of again rise to meet a moment
like this one that's that's coming up. But what I
would say is, I think Nebraska is really good defensively.

(11:37):
If they're asking me which team may have just a
little bit more to exploit out of the other side
strength if you understand what I'm saying, because Indiana frankly
defensively has regressed just a little bit in conference play.
They've not been quite as dominant as they were against
a pretty weak non conference I think Nebraska can have
a little bit more joy offensively than for example, maybe

(11:58):
it did against a Rutgers or or for you know,
stretches of the Perdue game, especially coming off of bye week.
It's kind of a fifty five to forty five, but
I feel like I felt more toward I think Indiana
can score just enough points on Nebraska defense, if that
makes sense, yeah, to win the game, especially because it's
in Bloomington. If it was in Lincoln, obviously it'd be

(12:18):
it'd be a very very different animal. But it is
in Bloomington. It is going to be a great atmosphere.
I think the one the one wrinkle is you just
don't know how teams have navigated the bye week, and
you know, if Nebraska has really been able to polish
something up in these two weeks off, then it could
be problems for Indiana. I think it's gonna be a
good game either way.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
It's gonna be fun as Zach Ostterman covers Indiana for
the Indie Annapolis Star. Thanks so much, Zach for the insight,
have fun at covering the game in Bloomington. Should be
an excellent atmosphere. And we'll talk to you again sometime
in the future.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Absolutely thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
All right, pretty cool. We'll talk about football a little bit,
get back in our Kamala Harris a Fox News conversation,
and plenty more. Stick around on news Radio eleven ten
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Speaker 2 (12:58):
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