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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The government still shut down. We're knocking on a week
of that happening, and where are we at? Are we
any closer to an agreement? Well, let's find out. Reporting
from Washington, d C Fox. He's ready to Reporter Ryan
Schmels is joining us on the phone line today. Ryan,
thanks so much for being on our show.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, great to be on Emory. How you doing good.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I was kind of forecasting this hour just about kind
of where we're at. You know, there's going to be
stages to this, and you know it's been six days.
Is a sixth day now that we've had the shutdown?
Is are we any closer than we were last Tuesday
to actually trying to figure out, you know, what we
can do to get the government back up and running.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We'll say it seems like there's been some bipartisan conversations
going on with the Senate in order to see if
there be like eight Democratic senators willing to vote with
Republicans to avoid the shutdown or end it. Speaker Johnson
did just say that he has had conversations with Patty Burray,
who's the appropriation star of the top Democrat and the
Appropriation Committee, and stead that you know, right, once they
(01:02):
get done with the shutdown. The three appropriations bills that
are being discussed are going to be put on the
floor as soon as that process is complete. They're being
negotiated by and closed doors. So that's kind of your
lead way into a full government budget getting passed when
this CR clears. Plus if the CR even clears is
kind of the question, because the Speaker John didn't say
(01:23):
he's not going to bring the House back until after
they opened the government back up, and that was quite
a statement he just made.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, so is he holding? You know?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And I know that there's a lot of performative politics
on the periphery of all this, but when you say
something like that, right, you really want people to be
serious when they're coming to the negotiating table on this.
We haven't had a true shutdown for like six or
seven years at this point, but the last shutdown we
had was under the first Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It lasted over a month.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And I don't know like where we're at on this thing,
but it just feels like both sides are quite stubborn
to very specific points. I know the Democrats keep mentioning
healthcare being kind of the sticking point this time. Do
you get the anticipation that there is something that can
be done through maybe the media or through maybe just
general conversation out in the public or on social media
(02:18):
that could eventually get the ball rolling because of the
angst of the American people.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, I think there's a couple of things that are
happening right now. Number One, you have the fear amongst
Democrats that the Trump administration is going to lay off
permanently a number of government employees if they shutdown continues.
You also have the extreme media ble that both sides
are doing, where Speaker Johnson is trying to go on
as many TV shows as possible and talking about this.
(02:44):
You have the same that's being done by the Democrats too.
And then you know, I just think there is this
pressure campaign that's going on too. You know, I think
the Republicans really trying to get some of these Democrats
to just cave and vote for the bill that's on
the table, and that's their strategy right now. They don't
have another strategy. Democrats have tried to get Republicans to negotiate.
(03:05):
So far that attempt has been unsuccessful, but there are
some you know, bipartisan talks going on behind the scenes
from non leadership members in the Senate where they're trying
to potentially find some type of agreement on these tax
subsidies for the Affordable Care Act that would you know,
lead to a reopening of the government.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
At least Ryan Fills is joining us from Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So, from your vantage point as a guy, you know
you've been in Washington, you talk about politics or you
hear a political talk pretty regularly.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Is there a leader?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I know Schumer is the Senate leader for the Democrats,
and I know that he has been very stubborn about
this for a lot of reasons. But it's about the
teams right now. It feels like it's, you know, we
want the blame to be on their side. The Republicans
say the same thing. But is there a secondary leader
who might be able to kind of come through the
(04:01):
Democrat ranks and say the American people need us to
get back to work. Is there somebody else that could
help kind of shift this Well.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean there's a number of Democrats who could vote
yes on the cr and that would be quite a
statement to be made. There's some bipartisan talks that I
said before of people that are talking that are not
in leadership trying to find some type of way to
reopen the government. So I'd watched for Senator Mike Rounds
of South Dakota. I'd watched for Tom Tillis of North Carolina.
(04:32):
That's on the Republican side. On the Democrats side, you
got folks like Gary Peters of Michigan, maybe Reuben Diego
of Arizona. There's a couple other people who are kind
of involved in those conversations. But whether or not anything's
actually materialized yet, it doesn't look like that has happened,
but it does look likely some people are talking and
trying to find some way forward. But mostly it's been
(04:54):
the leadership on both sides that have been at the forefront,
and it seems like gil for the most part, everyone
else is following along with their talking points.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, well, it's gonna be a thing that we're just
gonna have to pay attention to.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
The last thing for your Ryan before I leave.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You're thinking about this from you know, a perspective of
what happens. You know, like when you say the government's
shut down, but everybody's still talking to each other, and
then you hear people like the eye with delegations say, well,
we're not actually gonna get paid. We're gonna, you know,
not take our paychecks or whatever here since other people
in the government aren't getting paid.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So what is the timeline? What are they doing? Are
they sitting around tables talking all day?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Are they texting with each other or different groups still meeting?
Is this kind of business as usual except they're just
not actually passing anything? Like what is actually happening while
the government is, in quotes shut down?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, the house isn't here. They send everybody home, and
looks like Speaker Johnson's going to keep the house at
home until the Senate agrees to some type of plan
to keep the government open, and preferably he wants the
one that's already on the table, and he is reiterated
that he has. There's nothing to negotiate here, So I
think that all kind of stands out now. On the
(06:07):
other hand, you know what's going on is that the
Trump administration, who runs a lot of these federal agencies,
they're trying to find ways to keep the government functioning
as best as possible. And that's where you see this
contemplation of potentially laying people off for firing people permanently,
and so I mean that's kind of all they can
(06:30):
do until Congress passes some type of bill to keep
the government open. And of course there's the pressure campaigns
that are going on, whether it's President Trump on truth
social or just people going and talking to the press.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, and this is going to be a thing that's
going to be talked about because we can't actually pass
anything until this shutdown is finished up. But hey, at
least the Supreme courts in action, right, it gives you
something else to.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
French Mills, Fox With Radio.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
The media descends on the hill when the government shut downs.
We've seen a lot of people here, but there's not
a lot of tourists.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, and that's the other thing too, is you know,
it's just like, you know, if I was trying to
travel at all, I mean, have you tried to travel
here in the last week. I hear tsa and a
lot of the at big airports. It's tough to get
through right now.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh yeah, And that's the domino effect that impacts everyone.
You know. We keep getting asked, well, we really noticed
if the government was shut down for a long period
of time, like well, yeah, if if if the tsagent
stops showing up to work, you're definitely gonna notice that.
So yeah, that's that's kind of the big domino effect
that impacts everyone nationwide that we might start seeing soon.
And there's also reports that apparently the food the food
(07:37):
the food lines at at Fort Hood right now already
out the door. So let that sink in.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, now, see, we this is stuff that is again
kind of peripheral to what the government is doing, but
it is absolutely a side effect of the decisions they
are making or not making in Washington, DC. Something to
keep an eye on as well, and that's where the
pressure points likely are going to really come from.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Ryan Schmel's giving us all the great information. Ryan has
always really appreciated. I'm sure we'll talk again soon.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Hey, thank you, Emrie, have a go one.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
All right, that is a really interesting information.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We will continue to keep an eye on what's going
on in Washington, DC. And I am under the impression
that Mike Flood, who was on the show right before
the shutdown last week, he is going to be on
my show tomorrow, so he's actually going to be in town.
As we talked with Ryan about the entire house of representatives.
Essentially was just told go home until the Senate can
figure their stuff out, come to an agreement, then we'll
(08:30):
bring you guys back. Well, he's going to be around,
so he said, hey, I can stop on buy. So
our hope is tomorrow afternoon we'll get a chance to
speak with Mike Flood here in the studio to talk
about the government shutdown, what he sees in it, and
where we go next.
The government still shut down. We're knocking on a week
of that happening, and where are we at? Are we
any closer to an agreement? Well, let's find out. Reporting
from Washington, d C Fox. He's ready to Reporter Ryan
Schmels is joining us on the phone line today. Ryan,
thanks so much for being on our show.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, great to be on Emory. How you doing good.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I was kind of forecasting this hour just about kind
of where we're at. You know, there's going to be
stages to this, and you know it's been six days.
Is a sixth day now that we've had the shutdown?
Is are we any closer than we were last Tuesday
to actually trying to figure out, you know, what we
can do to get the government back up and running.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We'll say it seems like there's been some bipartisan conversations
going on with the Senate in order to see if
there be like eight Democratic senators willing to vote with
Republicans to avoid the shutdown or end it. Speaker Johnson
did just say that he has had conversations with Patty Burray,
who's the appropriation star of the top Democrat and the
Appropriation Committee, and stead that you know, right, once they
(01:02):
get done with the shutdown. The three appropriations bills that
are being discussed are going to be put on the
floor as soon as that process is complete. They're being
negotiated by and closed doors. So that's kind of your
lead way into a full government budget getting passed when
this CR clears. Plus if the CR even clears is
kind of the question, because the Speaker John didn't say
(01:23):
he's not going to bring the House back until after
they opened the government back up, and that was quite
a statement he just made.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, so is he holding? You know?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And I know that there's a lot of performative politics
on the periphery of all this, but when you say
something like that, right, you really want people to be
serious when they're coming to the negotiating table on this.
We haven't had a true shutdown for like six or
seven years at this point, but the last shutdown we
had was under the first Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It lasted over a month.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And I don't know like where we're at on this thing,
but it just feels like both sides are quite stubborn
to very specific points. I know the Democrats keep mentioning
healthcare being kind of the sticking point this time. Do
you get the anticipation that there is something that can
be done through maybe the media or through maybe just
general conversation out in the public or on social media
(02:18):
that could eventually get the ball rolling because of the
angst of the American people.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, I think there's a couple of things that are
happening right now. Number One, you have the fear amongst
Democrats that the Trump administration is going to lay off
permanently a number of government employees if they shutdown continues.
You also have the extreme media ble that both sides
are doing, where Speaker Johnson is trying to go on
as many TV shows as possible and talking about this.
(02:44):
You have the same that's being done by the Democrats too.
And then you know, I just think there is this
pressure campaign that's going on too. You know, I think
the Republicans really trying to get some of these Democrats
to just cave and vote for the bill that's on
the table, and that's their strategy right now. They don't
have another strategy. Democrats have tried to get Republicans to negotiate.
(03:05):
So far that attempt has been unsuccessful, but there are
some you know, bipartisan talks going on behind the scenes
from non leadership members in the Senate where they're trying
to potentially find some type of agreement on these tax
subsidies for the Affordable Care Act that would you know,
lead to a reopening of the government.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
At least Ryan Fills is joining us from Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So, from your vantage point as a guy, you know
you've been in Washington, you talk about politics or you
hear a political talk pretty regularly.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Is there a leader?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I know Schumer is the Senate leader for the Democrats,
and I know that he has been very stubborn about
this for a lot of reasons. But it's about the
teams right now. It feels like it's, you know, we
want the blame to be on their side. The Republicans
say the same thing. But is there a secondary leader
who might be able to kind of come through the
(04:01):
Democrat ranks and say the American people need us to
get back to work. Is there somebody else that could
help kind of shift this Well.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean there's a number of Democrats who could vote
yes on the cr and that would be quite a
statement to be made. There's some bipartisan talks that I
said before of people that are talking that are not
in leadership trying to find some type of way to
reopen the government. So I'd watched for Senator Mike Rounds
of South Dakota. I'd watched for Tom Tillis of North Carolina.
(04:32):
That's on the Republican side. On the Democrats side, you
got folks like Gary Peters of Michigan, maybe Reuben Diego
of Arizona. There's a couple other people who are kind
of involved in those conversations. But whether or not anything's
actually materialized yet, it doesn't look like that has happened,
but it does look likely some people are talking and
trying to find some way forward. But mostly it's been
(04:54):
the leadership on both sides that have been at the forefront,
and it seems like gil for the most part, everyone
else is following along with their talking points.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, well, it's gonna be a thing that we're just
gonna have to pay attention to.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
The last thing for your Ryan before I leave.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You're thinking about this from you know, a perspective of
what happens. You know, like when you say the government's
shut down, but everybody's still talking to each other, and
then you hear people like the eye with delegations say, well,
we're not actually gonna get paid. We're gonna, you know,
not take our paychecks or whatever here since other people
in the government aren't getting paid.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So what is the timeline? What are they doing? Are
they sitting around tables talking all day?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Are they texting with each other or different groups still meeting?
Is this kind of business as usual except they're just
not actually passing anything? Like what is actually happening while
the government is, in quotes shut down?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, the house isn't here. They send everybody home, and
looks like Speaker Johnson's going to keep the house at
home until the Senate agrees to some type of plan
to keep the government open, and preferably he wants the
one that's already on the table, and he is reiterated
that he has. There's nothing to negotiate here, So I
think that all kind of stands out now. On the
(06:07):
other hand, you know what's going on is that the
Trump administration, who runs a lot of these federal agencies,
they're trying to find ways to keep the government functioning
as best as possible. And that's where you see this
contemplation of potentially laying people off for firing people permanently,
and so I mean that's kind of all they can
(06:30):
do until Congress passes some type of bill to keep
the government open. And of course there's the pressure campaigns
that are going on, whether it's President Trump on truth
social or just people going and talking to the press.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, and this is going to be a thing that's
going to be talked about because we can't actually pass
anything until this shutdown is finished up. But hey, at
least the Supreme courts in action, right, it gives you
something else to.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
French Mills, Fox With Radio.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
The media descends on the hill when the government shut downs.
We've seen a lot of people here, but there's not
a lot of tourists.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, and that's the other thing too, is you know,
it's just like, you know, if I was trying to
travel at all, I mean, have you tried to travel
here in the last week. I hear tsa and a
lot of the at big airports. It's tough to get
through right now.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh yeah, And that's the domino effect that impacts everyone.
You know. We keep getting asked, well, we really noticed
if the government was shut down for a long period
of time, like well, yeah, if if if the tsagent
stops showing up to work, you're definitely gonna notice that.
So yeah, that's that's kind of the big domino effect
that impacts everyone nationwide that we might start seeing soon.
And there's also reports that apparently the food the food
(07:37):
the food lines at at Fort Hood right now already
out the door. So let that sink in.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, now, see, we this is stuff that is again
kind of peripheral to what the government is doing, but
it is absolutely a side effect of the decisions they
are making or not making in Washington, DC. Something to
keep an eye on as well, and that's where the
pressure points likely are going to really come from.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Ryan Schmel's giving us all the great information. Ryan has
always really appreciated. I'm sure we'll talk again soon.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Hey, thank you, Emrie, have a go one.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
All right, that is a really interesting information.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We will continue to keep an eye on what's going
on in Washington, DC. And I am under the impression
that Mike Flood, who was on the show right before
the shutdown last week, he is going to be on
my show tomorrow, so he's actually going to be in town.
As we talked with Ryan about the entire house of representatives.
Essentially was just told go home until the Senate can
figure their stuff out, come to an agreement, then we'll
(08:30):
bring you guys back. Well, he's going to be around,
so he said, hey, I can stop on buy. So
our hope is tomorrow afternoon we'll get a chance to
speak with Mike Flood here in the studio to talk
about the government shutdown, what he sees in it, and
where we go next.
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