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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Needed to talk about this. MS thirteen conversation MS thirteen
A gang they are. I mean we've learned. I've learned
more about them now in the last you know, month
and a half with the ICE initiatives and enforcement around
the country. Then I knew about them well before that,
(00:21):
And I think one of the reasons why we're trying
to get as educated about this as possible is because
we do not want people who are criminals who potentially
could be wanted in other countries. Makes no sense to
be harboring them without understanding who they are here in
the United States, something that seems to kind of go
over the head of some of the people on the
liberal left who create this you know, humanitarian issue out
(00:46):
of illegal immigration, as if everybody who's coming across the
border is are they're people that need sanctuary, they need
help our country, especially because we welcome that, we welcome
people who want to do it the right way. Welcoming
anyone and everyone from all over the world to pack
into our cities without having the proper details on who
(01:07):
they may or may not be is an entirely different
conversation that I feel like we just don't actually attack
the right way so how do we adjust the way
that we talk about this. I think we have to
do it in a way that makes sense to people,
showing them examples, giving them opportunities to truly understand why
it is important to vet every single person that comes
across the border and to enforce our immigration laws because
(01:30):
you never know who might be hiding here. Enter ice agents.
Yesterday in the city of Omaha, two accused MS thirteen
gang members were detained here in the Omaha area. And
these two including one guy who has been accused of
five homicides. He's killed five people. He's on the most
wanted list of the country of El Salvador, where he's
(01:53):
originally from, and according to Homeland Security investigations, these two
guys were probably in Omaha for a while now. They
haven't given the name for the guy who's on the
most wanted list for the purposes of the investigation itself,
but there are many pieces of information that you could
put together here of how dangerous this could be with
(02:16):
these types of people living or operating in the Omaha area.
A special Agent the HSI Homeland Security Investigation Investigatory Assistant
Special Agent in charge of this case, Elrich Sirdon said,
this is an example of them hiding in the community
amongst normal citizens that have no idea who your neighbors
(02:36):
are next door. These two people are wanted for heinous
crimes murder, and you might not know that until it's
too late. Yeah, I think that's important. They also said.
Sir Doan said, the type of planning we did was
to find out where the suspects, Where were the suspects,
what was their pattern of life. It was a quick
situation and then coming up with a plan to arrest
(02:56):
them quickly and safely. And this is in north Omaha
where they were, so if you're talking about kind of
where exactly in Omaha they would have been living north
Omaha is the information that we have. And then the
Nebraska State Patrol was involved in helping carry this out.
Local law enforcement, you know, and this is one thing
that maybe we could talk about later on in the show,
(03:16):
but how local law enforcement's roles are, you know, are
affected by this and the Nebraska State Patrol, as told
by public relations director Cody Thomas, He said, the Nebraska
State Patrol Information Analysis Center developed information regarding a known
criminal illegal alien present in Omaha quickly shared that information
(03:38):
with the Department of Homeland Security. The Nebraska Information Analysis
Center FUSION Center is connected with law enforcement entities worldwide
and works to quickly disseminate crucial information to keep community
safe in Nebraska and beyond. So there you go that
those are the kinds of arrests that you know you're
looking for. These are people who are known criminals where
(03:59):
they came from and ridgetionally, these are people who could
end up committing really heinous crimes and endangering our communities.
There's no way to know, as you heard here, until
it's too late. And when you have people who are
associated with a larger group like a gang like say
MS thirteen or others, I think that there is something
(04:20):
to be said for the idea that under other circumstances,
you just don't know what activation maybe other members may
have and what their attempt to do something and who
they may be targeting for any given period of time.
So as we roll through, you know kind of all
(04:42):
of the different protocols of our immigration process, and that includes,
and we'll get to a little bit later, birthright citizenship
and what that looks like from the standpoint of a
judge in New Hampshire has decided to try to continue
to block Donald Trump's attempt through executive order to in
birthright citizenship for people who are born in the US
(05:04):
but neither of their parents are here legally and are
not citizens. That is an interesting conversation to have. That
would affect one hundred and fifty thousand or so newborns
that would all of a sudden lose their citizenship status.
And we can talk about that, but that's one protocol
that goes into this larger issue of how many people
(05:25):
are coming into our nation for a true asylum, looking
for someplace to work, to make money, to make their
lives better, how many people are truly trying to take
advantage of our system, how many people are stealing the
identity of actual citizens like we saw with the Green
Valley food situation, and how many of those people were
able to get their jobs through Everify even though they
(05:47):
weren't who they said they were. And of course, beyond
what that looks like, what the enforcement is for people
who are truly criminals, who are people who are dangerous,
who've committed crimes elsewhere but are a threat to a
crime here in the United States. This isn't happening just anywhere.
This isn't happening far away from us. We literally just
(06:07):
found out that there was a guy, I mean, there
were two gang members of one of these two guys,
it's one of the most wanted men in the entire
country of El Salvador. He's been living potentially for several
years in the Omaha area and he's allegedly killed five people.
He's murdered five people, and he's just roaming around. If
that was somebody who we knew, who was just like
(06:29):
out on the run on the lamb, don't really know
who he is or where he is, but we know
that he's on the loose and he's you know, killed
five people, I think we would handle that very differently.
Don't you think how is it different when it's an
illegal immigrant. Well, I think it's even scarier in some cases,
right because we don't know what we don't know, and
you won't know until it's too late. So that's why
(06:51):
it's important in the Department of Homeland Security, for ICE,
for our local law enforcement. And again, I have to
say I was quite critical of the Green Belly Foods thing.
I thought the timing was really tough. I think that
the bigger picture in that moment was I felt like,
you know, Omaha was preparing for the College World Series
to begin, and I felt like with the protests, the
(07:13):
anti ice protests that were happening in the Los Angeles area,
there were going to be people who are leaning left
or very left, or they want to protest whatever's going
on in the world, whether that's Palestine, Gaza, you know, Ukraine,
whatever the heck it is. They want to have something
in a protest. It's just part of their identity. It's
not to say that it's bad. It's just to say
(07:33):
I knew that there was going to be some unrest
in relation to that. Right on the eve, essentially of
teams coming from all over the country and their fan
base to the Omaha area. I thought that they could
create an unsafe and chaotic situation. I was wrong about that.
Everything about the protests, everything about the way that people
responded to it, law enforcement, the College World Series itself,
(07:53):
everything went off without a hitch, and I'm thankful for that.
But the more that we hear about these stories, the
more that I know that I was wrong in the
way that I talked about that we can't be waiting
for a day. We can't be waiting for another hour.
If we know what is happening in and around the
Omaha area, and if we have the ability through authorities
to enforce the rules and make sure that we can
have a safe community, we need to do that. And
(08:16):
so I'm incredibly grateful for the way that this was
approached and the fact that there was no big standoff
or anything, that these two people were taken into custody,
and they were taken into custody quickly and safely in
a way that did not create harm or a safety
issue for anyone else. That's what you want to see.
That's hopefully how it's going to go. And this is
(08:36):
the kind of thing that hopefully sets an example for
other gang members, whether it's them as thirteen or anything else,
so they realize, Okay, our cover is being blown here.
We probably should get out of town or come up
with a different strategy for how we're going to hide out,
and being in the United States is no longer the
kind of asylum that we need to make sure that
we can get away with what our identities are and
(08:59):
what we've done the past or what we intend to
do in the future. In some cases we don't know.
Right now. It's two twenty eight. If you have some thoughts,
you can call me at four oh two five five
eight eleven ten. Four oh two five five eight eleven
ten would love to chat with you about anything that's
on your mind in relation to the MS thirteen game
members being detained by ice here in Omaha yesterday. We'll
talk to you coming up next on news Radio eleven
(09:21):
ten KFAB and Marie Songer on news Radio eleven ten
KFAB
Needed to talk about this. MS thirteen conversation MS thirteen
A gang they are. I mean we've learned. I've learned
more about them now in the last you know, month
and a half with the ICE initiatives and enforcement around
the country. Then I knew about them well before that,
(00:21):
And I think one of the reasons why we're trying
to get as educated about this as possible is because
we do not want people who are criminals who potentially
could be wanted in other countries. Makes no sense to
be harboring them without understanding who they are here in
the United States, something that seems to kind of go
over the head of some of the people on the
liberal left who create this you know, humanitarian issue out
(00:46):
of illegal immigration, as if everybody who's coming across the
border is are they're people that need sanctuary, they need
help our country, especially because we welcome that, we welcome
people who want to do it the right way. Welcoming
anyone and everyone from all over the world to pack
into our cities without having the proper details on who
(01:07):
they may or may not be is an entirely different
conversation that I feel like we just don't actually attack
the right way so how do we adjust the way
that we talk about this. I think we have to
do it in a way that makes sense to people,
showing them examples, giving them opportunities to truly understand why
it is important to vet every single person that comes
across the border and to enforce our immigration laws because
(01:30):
you never know who might be hiding here. Enter ice agents.
Yesterday in the city of Omaha, two accused MS thirteen
gang members were detained here in the Omaha area. And
these two including one guy who has been accused of
five homicides. He's killed five people. He's on the most
wanted list of the country of El Salvador, where he's
(01:53):
originally from, and according to Homeland Security investigations, these two
guys were probably in Omaha for a while now. They
haven't given the name for the guy who's on the
most wanted list for the purposes of the investigation itself,
but there are many pieces of information that you could
put together here of how dangerous this could be with
(02:16):
these types of people living or operating in the Omaha area.
A special Agent the HSI Homeland Security Investigation Investigatory Assistant
Special Agent in charge of this case, Elrich Sirdon said,
this is an example of them hiding in the community
amongst normal citizens that have no idea who your neighbors
(02:36):
are next door. These two people are wanted for heinous
crimes murder, and you might not know that until it's
too late. Yeah, I think that's important. They also said.
Sir Doan said, the type of planning we did was
to find out where the suspects, Where were the suspects,
what was their pattern of life. It was a quick
situation and then coming up with a plan to arrest
(02:56):
them quickly and safely. And this is in north Omaha
where they were, so if you're talking about kind of
where exactly in Omaha they would have been living north
Omaha is the information that we have. And then the
Nebraska State Patrol was involved in helping carry this out.
Local law enforcement, you know, and this is one thing
that maybe we could talk about later on in the show,
(03:16):
but how local law enforcement's roles are, you know, are
affected by this and the Nebraska State Patrol, as told
by public relations director Cody Thomas, He said, the Nebraska
State Patrol Information Analysis Center developed information regarding a known
criminal illegal alien present in Omaha quickly shared that information
(03:38):
with the Department of Homeland Security. The Nebraska Information Analysis
Center FUSION Center is connected with law enforcement entities worldwide
and works to quickly disseminate crucial information to keep community
safe in Nebraska and beyond. So there you go that
those are the kinds of arrests that you know you're
looking for. These are people who are known criminals where
(03:59):
they came from and ridgetionally, these are people who could
end up committing really heinous crimes and endangering our communities.
There's no way to know, as you heard here, until
it's too late. And when you have people who are
associated with a larger group like a gang like say
MS thirteen or others, I think that there is something
(04:20):
to be said for the idea that under other circumstances,
you just don't know what activation maybe other members may
have and what their attempt to do something and who
they may be targeting for any given period of time.
So as we roll through, you know kind of all
(04:42):
of the different protocols of our immigration process, and that includes,
and we'll get to a little bit later, birthright citizenship
and what that looks like from the standpoint of a
judge in New Hampshire has decided to try to continue
to block Donald Trump's attempt through executive order to in
birthright citizenship for people who are born in the US
(05:04):
but neither of their parents are here legally and are
not citizens. That is an interesting conversation to have. That
would affect one hundred and fifty thousand or so newborns
that would all of a sudden lose their citizenship status.
And we can talk about that, but that's one protocol
that goes into this larger issue of how many people
(05:25):
are coming into our nation for a true asylum, looking
for someplace to work, to make money, to make their
lives better, how many people are truly trying to take
advantage of our system, how many people are stealing the
identity of actual citizens like we saw with the Green
Valley food situation, and how many of those people were
able to get their jobs through Everify even though they
(05:47):
weren't who they said they were. And of course, beyond
what that looks like, what the enforcement is for people
who are truly criminals, who are people who are dangerous,
who've committed crimes elsewhere but are a threat to a
crime here in the United States. This isn't happening just anywhere.
This isn't happening far away from us. We literally just
(06:07):
found out that there was a guy, I mean, there
were two gang members of one of these two guys,
it's one of the most wanted men in the entire
country of El Salvador. He's been living potentially for several
years in the Omaha area and he's allegedly killed five people.
He's murdered five people, and he's just roaming around. If
that was somebody who we knew, who was just like
(06:29):
out on the run on the lamb, don't really know
who he is or where he is, but we know
that he's on the loose and he's you know, killed
five people, I think we would handle that very differently.
Don't you think how is it different when it's an
illegal immigrant. Well, I think it's even scarier in some cases,
right because we don't know what we don't know, and
you won't know until it's too late. So that's why
(06:51):
it's important in the Department of Homeland Security, for ICE,
for our local law enforcement. And again, I have to
say I was quite critical of the Green Belly Foods thing.
I thought the timing was really tough. I think that
the bigger picture in that moment was I felt like,
you know, Omaha was preparing for the College World Series
to begin, and I felt like with the protests, the
(07:13):
anti ice protests that were happening in the Los Angeles area,
there were going to be people who are leaning left
or very left, or they want to protest whatever's going
on in the world, whether that's Palestine, Gaza, you know, Ukraine,
whatever the heck it is. They want to have something
in a protest. It's just part of their identity. It's
not to say that it's bad. It's just to say
(07:33):
I knew that there was going to be some unrest
in relation to that. Right on the eve, essentially of
teams coming from all over the country and their fan
base to the Omaha area. I thought that they could
create an unsafe and chaotic situation. I was wrong about that.
Everything about the protests, everything about the way that people
responded to it, law enforcement, the College World Series itself,
(07:53):
everything went off without a hitch, and I'm thankful for that.
But the more that we hear about these stories, the
more that I know that I was wrong in the
way that I talked about that we can't be waiting
for a day. We can't be waiting for another hour.
If we know what is happening in and around the
Omaha area, and if we have the ability through authorities
to enforce the rules and make sure that we can
have a safe community, we need to do that. And
(08:16):
so I'm incredibly grateful for the way that this was
approached and the fact that there was no big standoff
or anything, that these two people were taken into custody,
and they were taken into custody quickly and safely in
a way that did not create harm or a safety
issue for anyone else. That's what you want to see.
That's hopefully how it's going to go. And this is
(08:36):
the kind of thing that hopefully sets an example for
other gang members, whether it's them as thirteen or anything else,
so they realize, Okay, our cover is being blown here.
We probably should get out of town or come up
with a different strategy for how we're going to hide out,
and being in the United States is no longer the
kind of asylum that we need to make sure that
we can get away with what our identities are and
(08:59):
what we've done the past or what we intend to
do in the future. In some cases we don't know.
Right now. It's two twenty eight. If you have some thoughts,
you can call me at four oh two five five
eight eleven ten. Four oh two five five eight eleven
ten would love to chat with you about anything that's
on your mind in relation to the MS thirteen game
members being detained by ice here in Omaha yesterday. We'll
talk to you coming up next on news Radio eleven
(09:21):
ten KFAB and Marie Songer on news Radio eleven ten
KFAB
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