November 4, 2024 • 11 mins
NewsRadio 1040 WHO's Jeff Angelo joins us to explain this shock poll out of the Hawkeye state.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We talked about that crazy Seltzer poll from Iowa has
a lot of people in the national news talking even
if we are doing the best that we can to
try to explain why that may have happened. I was like,
you know what, let's just get an expert on here
a guy who happens to know an awful lot about
Iowa politics and also winning elections. His name is Jeff Angelo.
He is the host of the morning show on our
sister station ten forty who in Des Moines every single
(00:22):
morning from five to nine am. And Jeff, first of all,
thanks so much for hopping on with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh. I always fine to talk to you day before
election day, super Bowl for radio talk show hosts like
you and me, So can.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You tell me what your emotion is.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
This is you've been a talk show host for other elections.
There's just a weird anxiety that I have of just
trying to like kind of manage my own emotions and
my own expectations while also trying to be as balanced
of a host as possible. Like, how do you feel
as a guy who's going to be on the air
for a long time tomorrow and the next day.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, I'm just hyped up. I just live for this stuff.
I'm one of those weirdos. It's cool for everybody to say, Oh,
I'm burnt out by this time. I just wanted to
be over and that's the sincere emotion that most people feel.
I'm not. I'm like walking around doing my whole clogan post.
I'm just like what you're going to do when thection
comes for you, you know, I'm all I'm fired up.
(01:17):
I want to talk, you know about election and election
today and tomorrow night and the morning after. I just
I've been a political junkie. Most of my life is
you know, Emory the story, but to tell the KFA
B listers like I got involved in politics through a
political science class when I was a teenager in Saint Louis, Missouri,
(01:41):
and part of the class was to volunteer for a campaign.
I volunteered for US representative running for re election that year,
and I just loved it. I've always loved it. I've
loved being involved in it. I've loved helping other people
run for election, ultimately running and winning election myself. I
(02:05):
love being on the air, to be given the job
of talking about why things are happening. The way they
are and how the votes are moving and what have you.
So you know, I just I just get excited, and
I don't want to leave out the patriotic part of it.
This is the greatest country on earth, and the people
rule and the people get to have their say tomorrow,
(02:28):
and I'll never take that for granted. I just I
just find this the whole process to be a wondrous,
wonderful thing.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So, Jeff, that Selzer poll drops with the Des Moines
Register on Saturday, I think, and it shows that Kyla
Harris has a three point lead over Donald Trump. And
there are a lot of discrepancies that I think are
questionable within this poll, but it certainly has gotten the
eyeballs of people nationally. What were your initial thoughts when
you saw this thing and how much stack, like do
you really kind of put into you know, trying to
(02:58):
put into this as something that just kind of came
completely out of left field.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, I know Anthel Selzer personally, I love her. She's
one of the most respected pollsters in the country. But look,
every once in a while, you're gonna biffit. I mean,
every pollster is going to have an outlier poll that
just isn't right, and this poll isn't right. And the
thing is about this poll. It's a big deal that
(03:25):
Anne does on the weekend before an election. And you know,
use a sports analogy. You can have a great team
going against a bad team on one Sunday, and you know,
you do the every any given Sunday theory, like every
once in a while, your team's just gonna biffit and
(03:46):
lose to a worst team. And every once in a while,
the greatest of polsters are going to have a bad
poll and they and they can't say take back seats
and do another poll. And it's her tradition. The week
before the election, she goes out in the field, she
does a poll, and that poll comes out the weekend
before the election. And this is an outlier poll. It
(04:08):
isn't it's wrong. It's just flat out wrong and and
boldly put it out there, and and knew she'd have
to defend it. But I think she's gonna be wrong
and and and she's gonna just have to say because
you know, Anne Selzer is a business person in Iowa
and she does a lot of polling and marketing work
(04:29):
for businesses around Iowa. And she is going to just
I think have to say to people, hey man, every
once in a while, you get an outlier, you get
a poll that just isn't right, and that's gonna happen
every pollster. And unfortunately, I think this one's happening for
her the weekend before the election. It's it's not right.
(04:49):
Trump's probably gonna win Iowa by around you know, my
my predictions, he's gonna win around seven, by about seven.
It's not gonna it's not going to break this way.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, speaking with Jeff Angelo, you look at the polling,
and I'm sure you've talked about this all these other
swing states. I don't expect I would be in play.
If I was in play, that creates a lot of different,
you know, combinations that can get one of the sides
to two seventy. But let's just say it's red for
the sake of what we figure we know. Have you
been at all, you know, kind of feeling like certain
(05:19):
states of those seven, you know, the Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
North Carolina, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona. Of those seven, do you
feel confident that you know any of them going one
way or the other.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I think ultimately that I think ultimately Michigan and
Pennsylvania goes Trump's way and I think ultimately gives Trump
the election. I feel like this is an election about
how the middle class feels economically, and you got your
(05:57):
hardcore blue collar, salt of the Earth workers in states
like Michigan and states like Pennsylvania, and I think they
break for Trump. I think they felt better under Trump economically.
I think they felt that he represented their interests more
(06:17):
better than the Biden Harris administration did. I don't think
Harris has spoken to the fears of middle class, working
class voters at all in this campaign. I just can't
recall any any kind of real intense messaging targeting working
(06:39):
class voters in a state like Michigan or a state
like Pennsylvania. And I think that's what loses her the
election in the electoral college.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
How do you feel about just politics in general? Because
you have been all over the place with your own
political journey, you know what that rhetoric has been like,
it's been heated over the last you know, year or so.
You know, how do you compare this to some other
cycles from you know, an adults perspective who's been involved
in the industry.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, it just gets more emotional for people every single cycle,
and people are getting more and more ramped up all
the time about their side winning and making sure that
the other side loses. And people are getting very, very
emotionally invested in who wins and who loses. And the
(07:32):
dangerous part of that memory is that sometimes in politics
you do lose. I mean, sometimes a candidate you want
to have when is it loses. Sometimes a bill that
comes up in the legislature you want to have pasted
it loses, and you need to be able to accept
(07:53):
that and say, Okay, how can I win down the line?
And I think people are getting so hyped up and
invested in winning that they can't contemplate losing. And it
creates just a huge atmosphere in regard a huge dangerous
(08:16):
atmosphere in regard to with the election and how it
comes down. Also, I think a lot of people are
redefining their political stances as an essential part of their
character and the character of the people around them. And
it's some kind of moral assault on you if somebody
disagrees with you politically, or you feel righteously indignant against
(08:41):
somebody who dares disagree with you politically, and you have
huge emotions, you know, and then there's a lot of
demonization going on of people that disagree politically, and that's
become a dangerous situation that people can't remove themselves from
politics enough to understand that sometimes your candidate loses. Sometimes
(09:06):
the idea you want to have passed doesn't pass. That
is part of politics, and we just seem to have
more and more people unwilling to accept it actually happens.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So, Jeff, what do you think happens in the wake
of the election one way or the other? And how
do you think we can heal from this? And as
kind of an appendage to that, do you trust what
the results we're going to see this week in that
presidential election? Do you feel like that's going to be
an accurate and fair election?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah? I do. I actually do trust that the results
will be the results. But I will say this, we
keep tempting too much faith in our election process. I
don't like dropboxes, I don't like ballot harvesting. I don't
like a lot of the things that we're instituting these
days in the name of making it easier to vote.
(09:58):
But nobody can reassure me that we're making it more
secured to vote. What I would love when you talk
about healing Emory. What I would love to see after
the election is I want to if I have a
concern or you have a concern about how our elections
are being conducted in this country. For example, you don't
(10:18):
like dropboxes, stop treating me like a conspiracy theorist and
that I'm some kind of nutjob and you aren't going
to take me seriously. I'd love to see Republicans and
Democrats come together after the election and go, okay, everybody,
let's take a breath and actually talk about how we
conduct elections in this country and if it's really a
(10:38):
good thing. Why right now, Emory, are we struggling to
keep non citizens from voting? That is crazy. Why we're
struggling to stop that from happening. Well, why don't we
have a system in place that that actually we can
be ironclad assured that a non citizen doesn't get the
(11:00):
vote and their vote doesn't count something like that. So sure,
we need to stop treating legitimate questions about how we
conduct elections in this country as if they're fringe questions
and actually come together and go, Okay, let's take a pause,
folks and decide whether or not this system is the
absolute best system we could have.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Jeff Angelo, he's the morning show host on our sister
station in Des Moine ten forty who Jeff as always
a pleasure. I know you're gonna have a lot of
fun tomorrow and the next day we'll be We'll definitely
chat in the next week or so about the results,
but thank you so much for covering out some time
for us today and can't wait to chat with you again, sou.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I looking forward to it, and I hope by the
time you and I talk again, we actually will have
results that would be awesome.
We talked about that crazy Seltzer poll from Iowa has
a lot of people in the national news talking even
if we are doing the best that we can to
try to explain why that may have happened. I was like,
you know what, let's just get an expert on here
a guy who happens to know an awful lot about
Iowa politics and also winning elections. His name is Jeff Angelo.
He is the host of the morning show on our
sister station ten forty who in Des Moines every single
(00:22):
morning from five to nine am. And Jeff, first of all,
thanks so much for hopping on with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh. I always fine to talk to you day before
election day, super Bowl for radio talk show hosts like
you and me, So can.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You tell me what your emotion is.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
This is you've been a talk show host for other elections.
There's just a weird anxiety that I have of just
trying to like kind of manage my own emotions and
my own expectations while also trying to be as balanced
of a host as possible. Like, how do you feel
as a guy who's going to be on the air
for a long time tomorrow and the next day.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, I'm just hyped up. I just live for this stuff.
I'm one of those weirdos. It's cool for everybody to say, Oh,
I'm burnt out by this time. I just wanted to
be over and that's the sincere emotion that most people feel.
I'm not. I'm like walking around doing my whole clogan post.
I'm just like what you're going to do when thection
comes for you, you know, I'm all I'm fired up.
(01:17):
I want to talk, you know about election and election
today and tomorrow night and the morning after. I just
I've been a political junkie. Most of my life is
you know, Emory the story, but to tell the KFA
B listers like I got involved in politics through a
political science class when I was a teenager in Saint Louis, Missouri,
(01:41):
and part of the class was to volunteer for a campaign.
I volunteered for US representative running for re election that year,
and I just loved it. I've always loved it. I've
loved being involved in it. I've loved helping other people
run for election, ultimately running and winning election myself. I
(02:05):
love being on the air, to be given the job
of talking about why things are happening. The way they
are and how the votes are moving and what have you.
So you know, I just I just get excited, and
I don't want to leave out the patriotic part of it.
This is the greatest country on earth, and the people
rule and the people get to have their say tomorrow,
(02:28):
and I'll never take that for granted. I just I
just find this the whole process to be a wondrous,
wonderful thing.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So, Jeff, that Selzer poll drops with the Des Moines
Register on Saturday, I think, and it shows that Kyla
Harris has a three point lead over Donald Trump. And
there are a lot of discrepancies that I think are
questionable within this poll, but it certainly has gotten the
eyeballs of people nationally. What were your initial thoughts when
you saw this thing and how much stack, like do
you really kind of put into you know, trying to
(02:58):
put into this as something that just kind of came
completely out of left field.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, I know Anthel Selzer personally, I love her. She's
one of the most respected pollsters in the country. But look,
every once in a while, you're gonna biffit. I mean,
every pollster is going to have an outlier poll that
just isn't right, and this poll isn't right. And the
thing is about this poll. It's a big deal that
(03:25):
Anne does on the weekend before an election. And you know,
use a sports analogy. You can have a great team
going against a bad team on one Sunday, and you know,
you do the every any given Sunday theory, like every
once in a while, your team's just gonna biffit and
(03:46):
lose to a worst team. And every once in a while,
the greatest of polsters are going to have a bad
poll and they and they can't say take back seats
and do another poll. And it's her tradition. The week
before the election, she goes out in the field, she
does a poll, and that poll comes out the weekend
before the election. And this is an outlier poll. It
(04:08):
isn't it's wrong. It's just flat out wrong and and
boldly put it out there, and and knew she'd have
to defend it. But I think she's gonna be wrong
and and and she's gonna just have to say because
you know, Anne Selzer is a business person in Iowa
and she does a lot of polling and marketing work
(04:29):
for businesses around Iowa. And she is going to just
I think have to say to people, hey man, every
once in a while, you get an outlier, you get
a poll that just isn't right, and that's gonna happen
every pollster. And unfortunately, I think this one's happening for
her the weekend before the election. It's it's not right.
(04:49):
Trump's probably gonna win Iowa by around you know, my
my predictions, he's gonna win around seven, by about seven.
It's not gonna it's not going to break this way.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, speaking with Jeff Angelo, you look at the polling,
and I'm sure you've talked about this all these other
swing states. I don't expect I would be in play.
If I was in play, that creates a lot of different,
you know, combinations that can get one of the sides
to two seventy. But let's just say it's red for
the sake of what we figure we know. Have you
been at all, you know, kind of feeling like certain
(05:19):
states of those seven, you know, the Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
North Carolina, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona. Of those seven, do you
feel confident that you know any of them going one
way or the other.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I think ultimately that I think ultimately Michigan and
Pennsylvania goes Trump's way and I think ultimately gives Trump
the election. I feel like this is an election about
how the middle class feels economically, and you got your
(05:57):
hardcore blue collar, salt of the Earth workers in states
like Michigan and states like Pennsylvania, and I think they
break for Trump. I think they felt better under Trump economically.
I think they felt that he represented their interests more
(06:17):
better than the Biden Harris administration did. I don't think
Harris has spoken to the fears of middle class, working
class voters at all in this campaign. I just can't
recall any any kind of real intense messaging targeting working
(06:39):
class voters in a state like Michigan or a state
like Pennsylvania. And I think that's what loses her the
election in the electoral college.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
How do you feel about just politics in general? Because
you have been all over the place with your own
political journey, you know what that rhetoric has been like,
it's been heated over the last you know, year or so.
You know, how do you compare this to some other
cycles from you know, an adults perspective who's been involved
in the industry.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, it just gets more emotional for people every single cycle,
and people are getting more and more ramped up all
the time about their side winning and making sure that
the other side loses. And people are getting very, very
emotionally invested in who wins and who loses. And the
(07:32):
dangerous part of that memory is that sometimes in politics
you do lose. I mean, sometimes a candidate you want
to have when is it loses. Sometimes a bill that
comes up in the legislature you want to have pasted
it loses, and you need to be able to accept
(07:53):
that and say, Okay, how can I win down the line?
And I think people are getting so hyped up and
invested in winning that they can't contemplate losing. And it
creates just a huge atmosphere in regard a huge dangerous
(08:16):
atmosphere in regard to with the election and how it
comes down. Also, I think a lot of people are
redefining their political stances as an essential part of their
character and the character of the people around them. And
it's some kind of moral assault on you if somebody
disagrees with you politically, or you feel righteously indignant against
(08:41):
somebody who dares disagree with you politically, and you have
huge emotions, you know, and then there's a lot of
demonization going on of people that disagree politically, and that's
become a dangerous situation that people can't remove themselves from
politics enough to understand that sometimes your candidate loses. Sometimes
(09:06):
the idea you want to have passed doesn't pass. That
is part of politics, and we just seem to have
more and more people unwilling to accept it actually happens.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So, Jeff, what do you think happens in the wake
of the election one way or the other? And how
do you think we can heal from this? And as
kind of an appendage to that, do you trust what
the results we're going to see this week in that
presidential election? Do you feel like that's going to be
an accurate and fair election?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah? I do. I actually do trust that the results
will be the results. But I will say this, we
keep tempting too much faith in our election process. I
don't like dropboxes, I don't like ballot harvesting. I don't
like a lot of the things that we're instituting these
days in the name of making it easier to vote.
(09:58):
But nobody can reassure me that we're making it more
secured to vote. What I would love when you talk
about healing Emory. What I would love to see after
the election is I want to if I have a
concern or you have a concern about how our elections
are being conducted in this country. For example, you don't
(10:18):
like dropboxes, stop treating me like a conspiracy theorist and
that I'm some kind of nutjob and you aren't going
to take me seriously. I'd love to see Republicans and
Democrats come together after the election and go, okay, everybody,
let's take a breath and actually talk about how we
conduct elections in this country and if it's really a
(10:38):
good thing. Why right now, Emory, are we struggling to
keep non citizens from voting? That is crazy. Why we're
struggling to stop that from happening. Well, why don't we
have a system in place that that actually we can
be ironclad assured that a non citizen doesn't get the
(11:00):
vote and their vote doesn't count something like that. So sure,
we need to stop treating legitimate questions about how we
conduct elections in this country as if they're fringe questions
and actually come together and go, Okay, let's take a pause,
folks and decide whether or not this system is the
absolute best system we could have.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Jeff Angelo, he's the morning show host on our sister
station in Des Moine ten forty who Jeff as always
a pleasure. I know you're gonna have a lot of
fun tomorrow and the next day we'll be We'll definitely
chat in the next week or so about the results,
but thank you so much for covering out some time
for us today and can't wait to chat with you again, sou.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I looking forward to it, and I hope by the
time you and I talk again, we actually will have
results that would be awesome.
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