Is the National Debt Even Fixable at This Point?

Elon calls the 'Beautiful Bill' a 'Disgusting Abomination', do you agree? And, why do we call bad bills 'pork'?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I wanted to talk to you about the spending bill
and the big Beautiful Bill as we have been calling it,
and that Trump has been calling it, and many people
are calling it.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
They don't like it. A lot of people don't like it.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's because there is spending in it that is seeming
deemed to be by some conservatives to be a bit
too much. And by a bit, it can be a lot.
So on X today, newly exited man from the government,
Elon Musk, had something pretty interesting to say about it.

(00:36):
And I've told you before. I don't know how many
times Elon is posting on a day to day basis,
But the guy's on X all the time, Like I
don't know. Does he have like multiple people following him
around and they just like every time he says something
out loud, they just like put it in X.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
He also retweets, retweets, reposts a lot of stuff on there.
I still call it retreat retweets. What if we call
it REX because it's X and it's re. He rexed
this and rexed that. I feel weird about it. Let's
not call it REX. Okay, good job.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Sometimes you got to say it out loud and know
it's a bad idea.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'm glad that I didn't have to come in and say,
you know, that's a good idea. A hour ago Elon
said this, and I quote again, he's not in the
government anymore, remember that. So Elon says, I'm sorry, but
I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork
filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on

(01:37):
those who voted for it. You know you did wrong.
You know it. It will massively increase the already gigantic
budget deficit to two point five trillion dollars exclamation point,
exclamation point, exclamation point, and burden America citizens with crushingly
unsustainable debt quote uh, crushingly unsustainable debt is somehow different

(01:58):
than the debt.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
We're already is a nation. Just throw this out there. Well,
we haven't been crushed yet. Is the debt actually ever
really going to crush us? What if it does? I
don't know, I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Ross pro thirty three years ago, was campaigning for the
nineteen ninety two presidential election. All right, like the Reform Party.
Eventually it would grow out of what he was doing.
He was wildly popular for a third party guy. He
was saying that the four trillion dollar deficit at the
time was going to crush us. Matt I was still
in diapers when this was going on. Now, I'm not
here to tell people they shouldn't be worried about the

(02:31):
national debt, but if it hasn't crushed us yet, what
will Like Donald Trump, who said that he wants to
balance this thing better, we're having like this big old
spending bill with a bunch of different stuff in it
as like a baseline that the Democrats are even saying
that this could increase the national debt by two, three,
four trillion dollars. They're pascitate. Anyway, We're at what thirty

(02:51):
nine trillion dollars or something. Weve went from four trillion
in nineteen ninety two the thirty nine trillion in twenty
twenty five, and I'm supposed to be like, oh, yeah,
this is going to be the thing that puts us
in the crushingly uncoverable, unsustainable debt.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Just because that bear is still sleeping doesn't mean you
need to keep taking selfies with it.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I'm just saying what are you supposed to do? Like,
I guess we just can't have anything anymore. Everybody, We're
just gonna get taxed into oblivion so we can pay
off this thirty nine trillion dollars. Are we being serious here?
Who's coming to collect the thirty nine trillion dollars? What
are they come and knocking? Donald Trump? I mean, everybody's like, well,
we owe China some of that money. Yeah, we do,
according to Donald Trump, he's got him over a barrel

(03:31):
in the trade talks.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
So like China wants to make a deal.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Oh yeah, you would think at some point they'd just
be like, give us the money you said you owe us.
So I'm sorry, Elon, I'm just not saying it. Could
you tell me? Could you tell me just what this
is gonna do for us? Now, again, it depends on
who you are and where you stand. Of course, Democrats
don't like this either, because a it's a Republican idea,

(03:54):
the Whitehouse Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said today and the
press briefing, Look, the President already knows where Elon Musk
stood on this bill. It doesn't change the president's opinion.
This is one big, beautiful bill and he's sticking to
it end quote and again elon not legitimately in the
government anymore at all. He wrapped that up at the

(04:15):
end of last week, and he says this bill will
undermine all the work his DOGE.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Team was doing.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
So when he was on CBS, he said, well, when
Trump said this, he said, well, our reactions a lot
of things. Number one, we have to get a lot
of votes. We can't be cutting. We need to get
a lot of support, and we have a lot of support.
We had to get it through the House. The House
was we had no Democrats. You know, if it was
up to the Democrats, they'll take the sixty five percent increase. Yeah,

(04:42):
because they don't mind the spinding and they want Republicans
to have to fight for anything they get. They want
Republicans to have egg on their face no matter what
we're talking about. Phone lines are open. I'd love to
talk to you for two, five, five, eight to eleven ten.
Mike's on the line. Hello, Mike, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Thanks their Marie. I called Senator Fish, Senator Ricketts, and
Congressman Flood's office yesterday. My congressional representatives asked them to
take out the moratorium on states passing laws regulating AI.
I think it's a terrible thing to sneak into the big, new,
beautiful bill, and I need to take that out. I

(05:19):
think AI is going to have a lot of good things,
but it's also going to come with a lot of
bad things. And I think it's very sneaky to put
that in the bill and not allow the public to
have an opportunity to debate these things. And I think
the states should be able to weigh in on this.
There's a lot of people that are going to lose
their jobs plenty. I comes some of it, you know,
maybe maybe a good thing, and some of it may

(05:41):
not be a good thing. But I think the states
should have an opportunity to weigh in on this. Yeah,
that's my company.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, it's a good point, Mike. I appreciate the call it.
I thanks for listening to us. Yeah, so if you
had thoughts on it, like Mike right there, I mean,
I think Mike, he's looking at one very specific part
of it. We could go through and we could find
a ton stuff like that. It is a gigantic bill.
It's gigantic. There's so much in there. If you call
your elected representative in Washington, DC or your senator. Let

(06:09):
me know if they answer, and let me know if
you hear anything back, because I'm thinking that they're probably
receiving a lot of heat for this bill on a
variety of levels, so much so that some of them
are even saying, well, we're all going to die anyway
when being questioned about what is and isn't in these bills.
So you know what I'm saying. If you want to
call in, we'll take your call. Four h two five
five eight eleven ten four roho two five five eight

(06:31):
to eleven ten, Big beautiful spending bill. Elon Musk is
losing his mind, not happy about it. Let's go talk
about it here on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Mre you songer.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
There are some Republicans, including Elon Musk, who, by the way,
was brought in by this administration to try to cut
the spending and trying to allow the government to, uh,
I don't know, be more sustainable financially. And he's beside himself.
He said, this is this massive, outrageous pork fill congressional
spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Geez hardcore four two

(07:06):
five eight eleven ten is the number. If you'd like
to discuss this with us, we'll start with Doug this segment.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Doug, welcome to our show. What do you think?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
What do I think?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Elansuri about the fact that they will crush us? And
I know you don't want to believe that because we've
been in debt ever since you have been a lot. Yeah,
but I'm sixty seven now, okay, so I knew when
we weren't in debt. And here's the thing. We are
now paying a tree in dollars a year just on
the interest on the debt. What could we do with

(07:38):
that tree dollars a year?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, I don't know what about that, but what would
we do that?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
One thing? They could give us a tax break. They
wouldn't have to be charging us so much what they
have to raise taxes. You know, they have to raise taxes.
Maybe we could get our people, the thirty eight percent
of us that do not work working, find jobs for
those people, give them training if they want to have
people invest more in this country to have more jobs

(08:05):
in this country. Yeah, then we wouldn't be paying all
that money out. What's going to happen? I'm not going
to Yeah, I might see sixty trillion. We get the
sixty trillion, this country won't exist. I promise you that,
and you will see it.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Okay, all right, Doug.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
I defended this country for twenty eight years of my life. Kay,
twenty eight Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I appreciate your service.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
And I see a lot of fraud, waste and abuse.
You can look at it. You see all that pork
they put in there every time, And He's right, they
put a lot of pork in there.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well why did they do that, Doug? They wanted, they shouldn't,
but they did. And Trump is saying he wants it.
Like Trump is telling people that this is good. He
wants this to get through, right, So I mean, where's
the disconnect because this was a guy that wanted the
government to work more efficiently and this is something that
he wants.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
So like, where was that energy?

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Like, I don't know, but he needs to get that
point across. We do need to just do the bare
minimum that we need to pay all our bills, do
what else we're doing now without adding any more crap,
and get rid of all the fraud, waste and abuse.
If we do that, then maybe because we all got

(09:16):
to We're all going to have to pay a little
bit of a price, because if not, we're going to
be ten years from now the tax is going to
be double or triple, and what's going to happen Then
I won't be able to hope forward anything, and you
won't even be able to eat. You know what a
roast cost yesterday? A two and a half pound roast?
What twenty bucks? Okay, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, I'm just saying, Doug, and I don't disagree with
what you're saying, right, And I'm not here to argue
with you, because it's I mean, you have a right
to feel this way. I'm just I'm just saying, from
my vantage point, if we're worried about the debt and
the national debt, a lot of people were saying the
exact same thing when it was at four trillion thirty
years ago, and nothing changed.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, but we weren't paying more on an interest on
our debt than we pent where paying on military to
defend our country.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Right, And I'm hearing you, Doug, I'm hearing you. I'm
just saying the government is still operating basically the same,
so they don't seem to be too concerned about it.
They say they are for like election purposes. But Donald
Trump's pushing this thing, so it's obvious that it's not
really top of mind for him. Right, So that's all
I'm saying. I appreciate the call though, Thanks Doug. I
appreciate you for listening.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I mean, Am I wrong? Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
You can go back and watch the videos that the
campaign adds that the people in the early nineties were
running saying, no, our national debt's crazy. We should do
something otherwise it will be too late. It's been thirty
three years.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Mark Doug's words. He says, at sixty trillion, that's when
the sleeping bear wakes up.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
When will the national debt hit sixty trillion dollars?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Should we start like a doomsday advent calendar?

Speaker 4 (10:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
No, we don't need any more doomsday doomsday stuff. Projected
to continue rising seting sixty trillion, A Congressional Budget Office
projected debt will surpass it's previous high by twenty twenty
nine and reach one hundred and eighteen point five GDP
one hundred and eighteen point five percent GDP by twenty
thirty five. Yeah, Apparently artificial intelligence is not interested in

(11:21):
telling me where that might be. They don't want to
tell us it's I mean, I guess maybe it's just
a little too inconsistent for it to get a good guess,
but uh, maybe I don't know. Ten years from now,
Beth is on our phone line four oh two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten, Beth loockme in what's going on?

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Well, I'm not going to get up to anymore because
it doesn't help anything. I think that. I mean, because
I've been watching it for so long what they do,
and they really don't care. I mean, I don't think
either party cares, and I don't think a lot of
these people that have a lot of power really care that.

(11:59):
There was twenty six senators the voted not to codify
the DOGE, and one of those with Fisher and Reckets,
which I called their office and I've called their office before.
I've called their office for lots of things, and it's
like they don't care. They'll send you a phone well,
they'll send you a form letter about something that has
nothing to do with what you call about. I just

(12:21):
said to the point, and they literally they don't care.
And if I told you some of the things that
I talked about something that somebody should care about, and
I'm not going to talk about on the air. But
it's like they don't. They literally don't care. They don't
care about Main Street and that is probably more close

(12:41):
to the truth. And I don't the Democrats don't either,
because if they cared, there's that old same A friend
of mine used to say, you either know or you
don't know. And if you don't know, then you're basically confident.
And you do know, then you're a part of it.
I don't think you know in as first Trump, Trump's
doing whatever Trump's does. But that's also going to play out.

(13:06):
They all spend our money and because they it's like
giving somebody a credit card and it doesn't have a limit,
and there's no consequences for what they do.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, and that's but that's my that's my whole thing,
Beth Is Doge wasn't ever meant to be a permanent thing, right,
This was something I was supposed to expire next year.
Elon was supposed to you know, oversee them kind of
you know, taking you know, some of this stuff apart,
so we're not spending wasteful dollars in the federal government.
But then right after he gets out is when this big,

(13:39):
beautiful bill is on the table to get voted in,
and they're immediately just like, yeah, well Trump is Trump
saying we need to push this through. The Republicans have
to figure out a way to make this work so
they'll all vote on it. They have a minimal, you know,
you know, room for error if people want to vote
against this. I mean, like you said, neither party. I

(14:00):
don't know if it's not caring. I just don't think
that they care about the same things we care about.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
So we're told that the national debts this huge problem.
You can't believe it when Donald Trump, who was talking
about needing to get spending under control, is willing to
push this particular bill, which we know and Elon is
saying it.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Everyone is saying it. It's going to cost us a
lot more money. I mean, it is.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well, I think the bottom line is they're scary people.
That's what I scary. Is scary you just wouldn't want
to have in your checkbook. But they doe problem.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Well, we'll see, we'll see what the consequences are one day, Beth,
maybe I appreciate the call today. Thanks for listening to us.
All Right, we'll take more calls to coming in four
two five, five, eight to eleven ten. Four h two five, five,
eight to eleven ten. What do you think Elon Musk
is really throwing the White House under the bus? The
White House says, we know where he's at on this.

(14:54):
He's not here anymore, like we don't need his approval,
So what do you think? Two five, five, eight, eleven ten.
We'll talk to you next on news radio eleven ten
kfa B. And that would have been liberating. But the
mess I'm gonna have to clean up and I'm gonna
have to like sit in there and feel wet to
take a shower after dirty rain water, dirty rain water,

(15:15):
dirty rain water. It gets it gets muddy, it gets messed.
Like you never you don't know what's on the ground.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Go out in the middle of the woods or something.
I don't know. Okay, maybe don't do that though that sounds.
That sounds then you got to walk back and you
might step on something and cut your foot. No, you got,
you got whatever. It's what I'm saying, like it's some
weird brain eating amoeba. I hear that.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Once that happens to you, you can have a future
as the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I don't know what that means. You know, the brain
worms you know, oh well actually okay, but the brain
eating amiba's oh yeah, deadly, that'll kill you. Yeah, and
you get those like you can get those all kinds
of No. I don't want to scare people.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well, just know where you're swimming. That's important to you.
Can't not tell people.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Don't whim in tepid, random lakes, bodies of water, anybody
of water. I don't know why you would.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Hey, sometimes you're out camping and you want to, like
take a dip into a lake. That could be fun.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I do that. Don't put your head under the water.
If you're one of those urban explorers and you see
a ramata a ramata a ramada and it's been sitting
there for three decades, you're like, I think I might
take to the old YouTube stream and walk around and
get some views. See what this thing looks like on
the inside. Right, you know people do that urban exploring. Yeah,
it's not something I do. Just don't jump in the

(16:33):
tepid pool that's been sitting there. Untouched for thirty five years.
You never know what's in there because that's how you
get a brain eating a meba.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
And those will actually eat your brain. It's not the
brain worm that Kennedy has. This is like, this is
something that will actually mess you up and kill you.
So there you go. Glad that we talked about that today. Jeez,
two forty we're talking about the Big Beautiful Bill. Lot
of a lot of emails coming in Emory at KFAP
dot com. Scott says, what happened with no tax on overtime,

(17:01):
no tax on tips, no tax for seniors drawing Social Security?
All that went away? He used it for his campaign
only and did not produce sounds like that's happening. I
think that's part of this, the no tax on on tips,
no tax on overtime, Like I like, don't let me,
let me just look this up, but no tax on overtime.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Update. Yeah, so uh yeah, we're I mean it looks
like this is working. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
So there's an exemption on overtime taxes, but it's in
the Big Beautiful Bill, so they have to pass this
to get to that. That is part of the bigger
portion here. Also, can I say something, is this gonna
sound bad? I got a lot of I got a
lot of emails. I gotta get to here. And if
you want to call me and you want to debate me,
I mean, Elon said this is an abomination. I don't

(17:51):
know if him and Trump are like angry at each
other or what, but like he's out of the government
now and he thinks this is an absolute disaster, this
bill with all the extra spending and all that. And
I don't like it when they use the word term
pork filled for legislation. It's just like ew, Like, that's
such a dumb way to say that there's a lot
of nothing in here.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
You know What's funny? I was thinking the same thing,
but just for a different reason why. I think that
we could find a better word for it. Like what,
I don't know who coined the term pork. I'd be
interested to see to go back to the etymology of
that word. But the word pork does it really perfectly
define what it is. Pork does have some nutritional value,

(18:32):
and it can be quite delicious if you make it
the right way. We're talking bacon, that's a form of pork, right, Well, yeah,
anything off a pig is Yeah, sausage. I love sausage,
So why don't we rename it? What it needs to
be is something that has no coloric value and only
is bad for you. Only is bad for you, Like
it has no good nutrients in it. It has caloriess

(18:54):
I'm sorry, not no coloric value, but it has calories,
but there's no nutritional value. Okay, and right, because that's
what we're talking about here. Some things in the bill
that aren't that are only going to lead to more
spending that people don't right, define your own pork. People
have different versions of it, but they would say that's
just useless spending that's only going to hurt the country.
So what food would be the version of that? And

(19:14):
only pork fits the bill. And if you're in the
pork industry, maybe you're sick of hearing it, well I
would be, Yeah, so what I'm saying that, So what
doesn't taste great, has no nutritional value, and it's only
bad for you. Castrole Castle, you've never had a good
tune of noodle casserole. That sounds so bad. Oh, you

(19:35):
gotta have it the right way. It sounds so bad.
Weema mushroom soup with a little bit of potato chips
on top.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
You are you're gonna make me vomit. I'm gonna be
sitting over here vomiting. During our segments, Jerry says lard,
lard filled Bill. They don't quite roll off the tongue lard.
I'd say that that's Bill's full lard makes It reminds.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Me of nobody's gonna get this weird. Al Yankovic had
his own TV show and he had this commercial on
his own TV. He had fake commercials. I loved it.
He was a genius before his time. Okay, well he
was a genius of his tie forest. I don't know
what I'm trying to say. Don't take what I say seriously.
But he had this commercial. It was for lard, and
it was they were rebranding lard because nobody cooks with

(20:22):
it anymore, and he said, now use lard. And so
a kid was in a tire swing but he got
stuck in the swing and he's like, boh, grab the lard.
And she went out with the lard and greased the
tire so that he could squeeze out of it. So
it was like trying to find a new use for
lard because nobody cooks with it anymore. Back to the
Emery Songer show on his radio eleven kfaby.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well there you go, Matt Lard. So so Jerry says Lord.
Apparently Lord has been thought about as something weird al.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Wanted to want to do.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, anyway, I uh look, I'm I'm not an economist, bye,
and it means I'm not gonna sit here and tell
you what is or isn't going to happen. What I
can tell you is, does anybody, like anybody really think
these people care about, you know, saving the taxpayer dollars?
And honestly, here's a harder question, noodle. This one for me,

(21:17):
is our system of economy kind of just set up
for us to pay more in taxes, but we don't
want to, so the government can't actually pay for all
the stuff that it needs for us to actually be
functional and happy. Have we gotten to like the point
where we are too self aware about the actual taxes
that we're paying and we just don't want to pay
any more of them. But in the same token, are

(21:40):
like the government absolutely needs us to pay more taxes
for it to be fully operational, Like, is there a
way to balance the budget. Is there a way to
make the government work better without paying more taxes? And
if people are willingly refusing to pay additional taxes to
help out the government in the national debt, then like

(22:02):
are you just kicking the can down the road, you know,
assuming that somebody in future generation is going to end up,
you know, stuck in a moment where they have to
like pay all the national debt back or the country
will cease to exist or whatever. Because I guarantee the
guys that are saying, well, the country's going to cease
to exist if we have if we don't do any
of the spending. And I'm not saying all this spending
is worth doing. I'm just saying a lot of this

(22:22):
stuff has, you know, legitimate reasons for it being in
this bill. And stuff costs money. I don't know if
you know this or not. And the people in Congress,
they cost money. And in the roads and all this
stuff locally, it costs money, Like dollars have to come
from somewhere, right, But we don't want to pay anything
extra for anything else, including to pay off the national debt.
We just want the spending to stop. That way, the

(22:44):
government can try to repurpose its own dollars. But when
there's nothing left of the government and we're just kind
of stuck spending for ourselves. We can't figure out why
the roads stink it, can't figure out why the government
isn't protecting us militarily, can't figure out what, you know,
any of the you know, realistic you know resolutions are
going to be for any problems that our government is facing.
We can't figure out why people aren't willingly going to Washington,

(23:07):
DC anymore, Like are we We're not even willing to
like give them money to solve the problem, like we
want no taxes anyway. So what exactly is the solution
to this?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
We'll get the more phone calls if you want to
call in four oh two, five five eight to eleven ten.
Four oh two, five five eight to eleven ten. Lard,
what's it good for? Absolutely nothing. That's not that song,
That wasn't what that song was about. But anyway, we'll
keep back do it on news radio eleven ten kfa
B and raise pork field and finding a better word.
I don't like when I say pork field. First of all,

(23:39):
the word pork it's just not a good word. I
don't mind pork products, and I like to eat a
lot of it, but it's just like anytime you say pork,
it just makes me feel weird.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's like moist. I don't like that one. I don't
mind pork, but I think it's doing it's work for you,
because that's what you need it to do. Right When
you say, like a politician would say, exactly, that's why
we chose it. Because we hear the word.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
It just kind of love you know, No, but you
can't do the pork farmers like that.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I agree. I completely agree that the word doesn't fit
what it stands for.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
So I had a guy Jerry, emailing and say what
about lard? And now people are emailing emailing me and
calling it about lard. So let's get to the phones.
Four oh two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten, Janet, how
you doing today?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Great? How are you?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I can't complain? What do you think about this?

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Well?

Speaker 6 (24:25):
When I think of pork, I think of pork and
beans and that little blav of fatness in it. Anyway,
I use lard. It makes the best pie cress ever.
Oh yeah, I won't use anything else.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Okay, So you.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Know how I got started doing it. But anyway, it's
the best.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
So you don't want us to call useless stuff in
a b piece of legislation lard filled?

Speaker 6 (24:48):
No, not really, okay, it just doesn't have any snap
to it, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Okay, all right, fair enough, Janet, this is why we
farm these things out.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a good day.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Mark's on the line an eleven ten KFA B. Welcome in, Mark.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
What do you think, Hi, I'm just talking about the lard.

Speaker 8 (25:05):
I make my homemade pie crust, and if you don't
use lard, it is not a flaky crust. It's my
great grandmother's recipe.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Well there you go. Okay, Mark, appreciate the call man.
Thanks for listening to us today. You bet all right,
so you have we can't use I guess we can't
use lard. And you know, Teresa says the same exact thing, says,
oh no, no, no, guys, lord has a purpose. I

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make pie crust with lard and it makes amazing pie crust.
If I do say so myself, I suggest using liver
as an example, is instead.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Liver.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Now, now you're talking about maybe the liver farmers, maybe
they'll be upset about that. Chris is on a phone
line four oh two five five, eight eleven ten. What
do you think, Chris, hi, sir?

Speaker 4 (25:55):
I think it should be the blobber bill Ooh, we
all whaling and stuff, so there is no need for blubber.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Now see that.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's good. That's good, Chris. I'm with you on that one.
Thank you for calling in.

Speaker 9 (26:09):
I have a great date.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
You do.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
And there you go blubber blubber. I mean not that
we ever did we ever eat blubber as a society.
I mean we would whale, but yeah, whale blubber?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
What was it for?

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Then they used to make like oil? He burn it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and then like the ivory that
you know, like from a whale's teeth.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
You talk about talking about a narwhal. I think ivory
comes from an elephant.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, but I don't know, Like, am I crazy? Didn't
moby dick and moby Dick didn't he like didn't? Uh
what's his face, Captain Taneil, No, that's not his name.
It's a there's ivory.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, you're right, you're absolutely right. Whale ivory. I'm looking
at it right now. Yeah, what's the guy's name in captain?
A hab? That's what it is. A hab. Uh, Yeah,
there's ivory. I don't know what it's for.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I don't know why you'd use it to make scrimshaw.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
You're right, scrimshaw. What I took my rickshaw to go
buy some scrimshaw? What does anybody need scrimshaw for? I
don't know. I'm clicking on the article. Yeah, so scroll work, engravings, carvings. Yeah,
I know what it is, but like, what do you
need it for?

Speaker 9 (27:20):
It?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well, these days nothing you could call it a bunch
of scrimshaw. Scrimshaw.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
It's a scrimshaw filled bill. Wow, I can't don't ask
me how I know that at all.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I was looking at the word when you said it.
I was like, whoa, that's crazy. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Anyway, if you got some thoughts about Donald Trumpey alamask
got at each other's throats essentially kind of about this bill.
And if you don't like the bill, you don't like spending.
Do we really have to pay back to national debt?
Do we? Does anybody even know? All right, we'll talk
about it coming up. News Radio eleven ten kfab Rick
called in because we're trying to find a term for this,
and he's apparently got an explanation on how the word

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pork got into politics. So Rick tell us about it.

Speaker 10 (28:04):
Yeah, listen, this goes back before we had all these
ambitious politicians trying to keep their coffers full. But what
happened was when you had elections which were rare in
the country I'm talking about. You can go back to
Davy Crockett if you want. But the politician that you
sent to Washington that brought home the bacon like Daddy did,

(28:27):
was the popular politician. He could always get reelected because
he brought home the bacon. It's always been bacon. When
it got to be pork. I don't know that's more
popular term because bacon fell out because it was supposed
to kill you, I guess. But everybody loves bacon anyway,
So yeah, leave it bacon.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
All right, Hey, Rick, I appreciate it. Thanks for calling in.
All right, man, that's funny, but that's but that's not
the but you bring You want somebody who brings home
the bacon. You don't want somebody who stuffs to Bill
with pork, right, But.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's the thing, dude, Like I don't think it's ever
going to make total sense. I just think people have
like used and abused some of the terminology for their
own benefit, even if it kind of changed the definition
of it. And we were talking about the script's spelling
bee right, and like all the words and the crazy
definitions that exist, like people have changed words and made

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them their own thing. I mean, there are probably a
lot of modern examples of words that meant something completely different,
but this generation has changed them and have started to
use it for something else, like.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Oh man, she's bad, what does that mean now? Or aura?

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, well, let's go with badge first, because I think
everybody knows what bad means. But when I say, oh man,
she's bad, what does that mean? I think baddie is
what people are saying. Yeah, but she's a baddie.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
But but if you could also just say she's bad,
and people will be like, oh, yeah, I know what
he's sign about.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
No, literally, she murdered somebody, I know, right, No, that's
not what it means. That's not what it means.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Is that she's a she's hot, she's she's yeah hot.
There's a good one. When did we stop start using
the term hot? To try to talk about what people
look like. I mean what nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
They tell you that the best thing you can be
in life is hot and cool. I can't do both.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
That's that's a good example of two words that should
not mean the same thing, but you can be both
theoretically when using it in modern terms. Anyway, Porkfield, I
guess we're stuck with it. Brian's on our phone line
four two, five, five, eight eleven ten. Brian, you got
something about this big beautiful bill.

Speaker 9 (30:43):
Well, the fiscally responsible thing with the ease to let
the bills fail and let the tax cuts expire. When
you have more revenue coming in which were reduced the deficit,
you can't really claim your serious tough deficits. All all
you can do is have a huge text increase and
elon Musk and the conservative movements beef is. It's just

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not cutting enough. You know that if just cutting taxing
and spending and regulating made for economic miracle, well, the
places that don't tax or regulators spend very much are
fairly miserable places. And April last year I called in
and told you things that Trump was promising to do
that would increase inflation, and that was tax cuts, pariffs

(31:28):
devaluing the dollar and mass deportations and tax cuts don't
pay for themselves. And you know, Elon Musk is like, oh, Medicare, Medicaid,
cork social Security, close those offices, fire those workers, get
rid of those websites and phones they answered and maintained.

(31:48):
So you know, if you look up Democrats Republicans, Democrats
versus Republicans economy, you'll see that Democrats since World War Two,
everyone has reduced the deficits, whereas every Republican administration has
increased the debt sit. Yeah, conservative movement moment in economics
just doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, So and Ran, I mean you deserve to have
a bit of a victory lap here.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
So I'm not going to be like.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Really debating hard on any of those points, because I mean,
I think a lot of people are just like, wait
a second, Trump wants what to be done with this bill?
Like Trump Trump supports this kind of spending, Like I
get it, And I've asked the question.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I'm sure you heard it last.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Hour where I was, you know, like, so are we
ever going to have to pay the national debt? And
the do the people who are you know, citizens who
are upset about the national debt, are they willing to
pay more taxes themselves to catch up on it? Like? So,
I mean, it just seems like we're not all on
the same page on this. But it will be interesting
because the inflation number is still technically going down. Now

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we'll see if that what changes when we get to
you know, this thing being signed and implemented. What that
does to costs, what it does to prices. There are
things in the bill, like the no tax on overtime
that should be implemented after that, and I'm sure people
will rejoice, but it I don't know if the numbers
are going to add up to a point where people
are going to understand what exactly was all in this

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bill until after they're paying for it. So I don't know, Brian.
I appreciate you calling back. We'll have to revisit this
at a later time when we know more about what
the result was.

Speaker 9 (33:25):
Well, thank you for being somewhat rational and protecting my call.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Come on, Brian, I'm always rational. I'm the most rational.
I'm so rational. I'm always rational. I'm the most rational
person you've ever met. I'm so rational. I made it
cool to be rational. You're more rational than hard tag rations.
I I put the ration in rational.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Jeff's on a phone line four two, five five eight
eleven ten, Jeff, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (33:55):
Hey, I sort of point out that there was been
port and vain and it's simple. If you're even if
it's bacon, if you're paying for it, it's pork. Okay.
So politicians bring home the bacon, and of course the
bacon is bringing home is pork bell spending if you're
not in their district.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
Mmm mm hmm.

Speaker 8 (34:14):
That's the way it works.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
See, this is why, wait, this is why we have
people like Jeff call in to kind of explain this
in the terms that we have. And Jeff, I do
appreciate you for calling in. That's yeah, you want to
know something that that makes sense to me? Makes sense
one One man's bacon's another man's pork. Mike's on a
phone line four oh two, five five eight to eleven ten. Hey, Mike,
welcome to eleven ten KFA b.

Speaker 8 (34:37):
Hi there.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
You know we're talking about lard pork blubber. The real
thing is it's fat. There's fat in the bill and
a whole lot of people. There's no manufacturing of fat.
Fat is just fat.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Mm yeah, And I see when you say it like that.
We just use that word. This bill, this bill has
fat in it too much fat.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I like it. Hey, thanks for the call, buddy, Thanks
for listening to our show.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Have a great day you too.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Bottom line is, I'm not convinced that our politicians are
ever really ever looking out for us. They want to
do what they do. Donald Trump wouldn't do this if
if he I mean, if you're a Trump voter and
you're a staunch Trump supporter and you're hearing what he's
saying about this bill and saying, relax, relax, it'll be fine.

(35:37):
You're hearing all these Republicans like Joni Arns have to
go back to their constituents and explain what these bills
are and all the different things that are in it.
How many how many pages? Get guests guess how many
pages in the big beautiful bill.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, BIG's in the name, so it's gotta be a lot.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Okay, yeah, yeah, So what's what legs? And we've had
this debate too about like if you have to go
past a certain number of pages, like at what point
is that just too much because nobody's gonna be able
to understand what the heck is in here?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
So it's a big, beautiful bill. I picture that. Did
you have these as a kid? They were really big,
like extra large like books, the picture books. Okay, I
had those actually as a kid. There was that we
had them in my Sunday school classroom. Okay, they were huge,

(36:38):
so you could like you could sit down and flip
them upen That's how I picture this. It's just like
twelve hundred and sixty two pages, but it's this enormous book,
so you probably need a forklift. And it's got and
it's got about eighteen to maybe the twenty four font
What do you think font wise? Wing dings, wing dings?

(36:59):
I was thinking Broadway for at least like the headers.
The headers you got it because that's bold. Maybe that's bold.
Oh yeah, let me open a Microsoft word document airpacked
aerial black. Put some aerial black in there. That's pretty
bold too. Yeah, do you go all aerial black. I
feel like my eyes would bleed if I had to
read all this is why Times New Roman is is
so popular is because it's easy on the eyes and

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it has the seraph.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Oh gosh, you want to talk about some of those Uh,
what's what's the one with the bubble letters and the
kid looking bubble letters.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
So yeah, mightbe want to put some of that in there,
but I'm saying there's probably some big, blown out pictures.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Okay, So how let's say it's regular sized book. How
many pages the version that passed the House, by the way,
not any amending that would potentially go on before you know.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
We'll say five hundred and twenty nine and sixteen. Oh
I was closer with my picture book, exactly one and
sixteen pages.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
We need to institute a new American law. You know what,
I will amend the Constitution. Let's him in the Constitution
one more time. You know what we should do. No
piece of legislation should be more than two hundred pages.
If it's more than two hundred pages, and you have
to put more than two hundred, like two hundred pages
worth the stuff in here, it's way too much for
the American people to even understand what's going on here.
You're trying to pull fast ones on us. Nobody wants it.

(38:22):
Nobody wants anything that long. You're telling me, all these
people are like pouring over one hundred and six eleven
hundred pages of this and they're like, oh yeah, well,
page seven hundred and forty seven has this one thing
that I don't like and we need to correct that.
I'm starting to think maybe our government system maybe not
be all that great. But you know who am I.

(38:43):
I'm sure people will disagree with that. Well, if you've
got thoughts on it. Elon mus says it's an abomination.
He thinks that the White House is doing in the
service to the United States by pushing through this thing.
The people who are voting for this, they're getting destroyed
by true conservatives. But the Republicans don want to make
Donald Trump Matt so they're still trying to find ways
to justify it. What do you think It seems like

(39:04):
a big conundrum overall. Four ROH two five five eight
eleven ten is the phone number for you to call
four ROH two five five eight to eleven ten and
we'll chat with you on news radio eleven ten.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Kfab and raised longer.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
We got ourselves a interesting conversation here, and I'm gonna
just wrap this up. Elon Musk, if you missed it, said,
I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive,
outrageous pork filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination.
That isn't one heck of a sentence. Can we just

(39:34):
like frame that sentence. You can use that for anything,
We can meme that into anything. Now again, we just
got to remove the congressional spending bill and put anything
else in there and we'd be good. This massive, outrageous
pork filled rainy day is a disgusting abomination.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Cloudy with a chance of meatballs. If pork fills falling
from the sky, that's a good movie, by the Yeah, underrated.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
This massive outrageous pork filled basketball game is a disgusting abomination.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, when the Pacers make a three, I agree, no,
no offense to the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, go get them in the finals. To the Pacers,
shame on those who voted for He said, you know
you did wrong.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
You know it.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
If they know it, then why did they do it?
Is that a fair question to ask? Like I know
it's wrong to run my car on the sidewalk, but
I did it anyway. That sounds like, okay, why did
you do it? Why do you do stuff that's wrong?

(40:42):
Why does anybody do stuff that's wrong unless like they
have something to gain by it.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I don't know, that's a complicated question. How existential do
you want to get let's get it go existential me,
I don't know. Give me a circumstance.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Well, let's say you're you have no money, but you're hungry,
and you just decide I'm gonna do something wrong, so
I have.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Food, So you steal bread because you're hungry.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I was taking more of like I'm holding up a
McDonald's or something.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
But yeah, sure, Yeah, that's a tough one because if
you're literally starving, especially if you have a family to
provide for and you don't really have any means to
get money or get food, I would say go to
your local soup kitchen first.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I would not steal or hold somebody up. That's probably
a bad move. Although I have heard of people trying
to get themselves arrested so they get taken to jail
so they have somewhere to stay.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
That's what Michael Schofield did, Is that right? In prison Break?
Oh yeah, he had the prison Break instructions tattooed. It's
kind of like a it's kind of like a smart
guy kind of movie. That's a show, sorry, TV show.
That's why I love it so much. If there was

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a inspection of certain kind, they'd be like, what the
heck is this?

Speaker 7 (42:04):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
What's this? Amazed? I don't looks remarkably similar to our
prison blueprints. You know, pull let's pull.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Those blueprints real quick. You you Michael Eastay right here.
Elon says it will massively increase the already gigantic budget deficit,
the two point five trillion dollars in burden America citizens
with crushingly unsustainable debt. I just don't know what that means.
Are we not here in unsustainable debt? No one cares

(42:31):
about that in Congress, in the executive branch, nobody what.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Happens when it becomes unsustainable?

Speaker 4 (42:38):
It?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
What is unsustainable? What's unsustainable? How are we not already unsustainable?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Does the government say, oh, whoops, now we got to
pay this back, so everything costs four million times more
than it used to.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, you could say that, but wouldn't that have been
happening for like years already. We've we've been told it's
been unsustainable in a terrible situation for this country for
the better part of the last thirty five to forty years,
and nobody's done anything about it because they'll run on it.
They want to run on it. They would love like

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you to vote for them, because you say you're gonna
fix the national debt.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
But what are you gonna do? We still have to
pay for stuff. Who are we giving this money to?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
So so the US national debt is thirty six trillion,
nine hundred and thirty two billion, six hundred and eighty
nine million, eight hundred thousand and climbing right now.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Well, caller Doug said the world ends when it gets
to sixty. So we're a little over halfway there. In
twenty twenty. You know what the debt was, what twenty six?
Oh it's gone up ten in the last five years.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Right, So I'm gonna go forward here to twenty twenty nine,
and it suggests that we'd be in like the forty
six trillion mark in four years. So do the math.
It might take like twenty forty for us to get
up there. What was an aptal debt in nineteen eighty
nineteen eighty Yep, that's the farthest I can go back here,
maybe like seven trillion, not even was it in the billions. Yeah,

(44:11):
eight hundred and eighty eight billions, not quite a trill.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah. Yeah, So it's gone up a lot over the
last forty years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
In nineteen ninety it was over three trillion, and that's
when ross Brow started to throw a fit about it
and say, Hey, I'm going to tax the heck out
of you. But you like me because I'm a weird
guy and you don't want George W. Hw Bush to
be the president. Again, nothing was done, nothing has been done. Nothing,
you know it will be done.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
The National debt and climate change have some similarities, is
that right.

Speaker 10 (44:43):
Now?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Some would say that there's a lot of environmental changes
that you can attribute to climate change, but others would
say it's a bit of an invisible monster. Some people
say it's imaginary, other people say it's not. By the way,
vast consensus of scientists do not think it's imaginary. So
I want to provide that as a caveat. I'm just
it's onness you as a one for one compared.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Right, and it depends on what you are technically defining
as climate change.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Right. But yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
They also have a Doge clock here on the National
Debt website, and the Doge clock is essentially the uh like,
how much Doge is trying to save savings per taxpayer?
Roughly forty four hundred debt per taxpayer three hundred and
twenty three thousand. You think that debt prefer taxpayer three

(45:32):
hundred and twenty three thousand. You really think that we're
all going to be on the hook to pay three
hundred and twenty three thousand, Well, we won't because we can't,
and we won't because, you know what, We're going to
make deals for that money. So, I like Donald Trump,
thinks that these tariffs are going to help resolve a
lot of the issues, especially to the people that we
apparently owe this money to. What are we talking about here?

(45:52):
Unsustainable debt? How what's unsustainable? I'm just I don't know anyway,
three twenty eight We got plenty more to get to.
Why don't we do this giveaway right now? We have
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(46:27):
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It's a great event that helps support them. That's why
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Speaker 2 (46:35):
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And there's a whole lot of really cool things to
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(46:55):
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(47:31):
eleven ten kfab and Maurice sung, we are moving on
and I wanted to chat with you about this other thing.
Look and we can talk about the the elon hating
this bill in all this jazz and how that has,
you know, greatly affected I think people and seeing this.

(47:53):
But I got this email which was interesting from Tracy.
She said, PTE, has anyone in Congress ever been primaried
because they spent more money, like if they voted guests
to increase the deficit or to increase spending. Has anybody
been primary because of that? And she said I doubt it. Uh,

(48:17):
people have been primary for saying bad things. People have
been primaried because people don't like how they're carrying themselves.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
They're not showing up to town halls. Again.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I don't think town halls are really that big of
a deal these days, but they're not getting seen by
their people. They're not answering questions. This is I mean,
this is a great question. Has anybody been like primary
because like, oh, well you overspent. Remember what I said, Well,
I don't remember what the context was. I remember talking

(48:48):
about this though. You have to play ball. Like when
you go to Washington, you are just you're there and
you got to play ball. If you want to get
anything done, you can go in there like a matt
We're gonna run you for Congress. That's what we're gonna do.
And I think this is the exact example that I
used last time. You're gonna run for Congress and I
can get you elected, Matt. I can help you get elected.

(49:09):
But you know what, when we get there, we have
to play ball. Matty's got to go down to Washington, DC,
and he's gonna have to understand that he's got to
do things to get things done within the party that
he's working with.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I'm a maverick. I don't play ball with nobody's.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Well, Mattie, if you don't play ball, I'm not getting
you elected. I know this incumbent. They'll play ball. They'll
play ball, or of a solitaire guy myself. Yeah, Well,
maybe Congress is more solitaire, we wouldn't spend so much
darn money. Look, people, whenever anybody is campaigning on the

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national debt and they have a realistic shot to win,
don't listen to all. How stupid aren't we to fall
for this every single cycle? We're still bully.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
It's me, Come on, take it easy on us people.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I'm telling you we are dummies. You gotta be kidding me.
I've told you over and over again. These people don't
actually care about the national debt.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
But who's gonna get elected by being reasonable? Especially when
the person on the other side is promising that they'll
make the sun give you, give you a tan without
the cancer like they're promising you can get they're casting checks.
They can't. Whatever the analogy, they can't do it. You
can get a tan without getting cancer. There are ways

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to do that. That was on the fly.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
They make products for that. Just because you're pasty white
doesn't mean everybody.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Else has to do. I actually got myself a little summer's globe.
Yeah I think I'm whiter than you.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Actually, if I had the guess, we're both pasty all right,
But that doesn't mean that the sun's out to kill us.
You just have to be willing to look for help.
You know that tanning oil or sunscreen, you know what,
those exist to help you. What I'm saying is rational
people like Ross pro saying I'm gonna tax the bud

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Jesus out of you because we are in a national debt.
It was only four trillion dollars when he was running
in ninety two. He was saying he was gonna do
it then. And you know what people were like, whoaha, Ross, No,
thank you. You spending more money than you have is
not my problem, but it is.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
It is our problem.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
You know why it is our problem because at some point,
if you want to pay this back, it's coming out
of our pockets. And guess what have you noticed that
they're taxing us less and less to make us happy?

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Okay, okay, you know what that means.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
That means the government is just going to stay in debt.
Donald Trump's going to try to finaggle this. I think
this might this is what I think He's gonna use
the tariffs as the way to pay it back. Hey,
let's make a new trade deal and incentifing to pay
you trillions of dollars. Maybe we can just make some nice,
big trade deal. Well, you need us in our products.
You don't want us to cease to exist as we

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know it. So how about we make some kind of deal.
I think that's the plan here.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
It could work. It could work.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
We need to get all the trade deals done and
you get one with chrying to figure it out too.
But you can't tell me that thirty nine trillion dollars
is just gonna one day be able to be paid off.
Is there even that much money in the United States
as a whole right now? It's an interesting question how
much money is in the US economy right now?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
How much money does Elon Musk have? That's what I
want to know.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
The GDP is thirty point five zero seven trillion, and
I don't know what that means. But the GDP being
thirty point five h seven trillion, the national that's higher
than that, How much is een lawn Musk worth four

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hundred and twenty two point seven billion dollars?

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Oh, so he can't help. I thought maybe he could
just get all his money away and then we'd all
be square.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I mean, honestly, this man could live with one billion,
easily one billion. So what why couldn't Elon donate four
one hundred and twenty one billion dollars to the cost here.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
If it's that big of a deal. I think Elon
is going to disappear one day because he's built some
secret world.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yeah, your ground. He keeps talking about see him again.
He keeps talking about trying to have people live on Mars.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
He's going to build a mole society, and then their
plan is they're going to emerge after everything falls apart
up here.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Hey, we need to we need we need to be
careful though, because uh oh, there's a lot of a
lot of bros really like Elon and they I don't
want us to be misconstrued as like somehow hating on Elon.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
If your if your local Elon bro disappears one day,
he probably joined his society, his mole society. Yeah. I
think they're going to try to live on Mars first,
better future underground. Yeah, didn't Aaron Rodgers try that for
a few days. Well that is a century deprivation chamber,
and look how that worked out. I got them to
the jets.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
More coming up News Radio eleven ten Kfab and Marie Sunger.
I'm officially going to be finishing this conversation this Elon
hating this big beautiful bill, Caroline Levitt says, we know
where Elon is. We don't care. My last thing, last
piece of this is are we.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Are we? Okay? Matt?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Can we come to the safe conclusion that the government
looks out for us, but they try to lie to
us to get themselves elected? Can can we get to that? Like,
maybe not specifically that, but it's just kind of like
you have to take campaign slogans with a grain of salt,
and you'll never know what people are doing until they're

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there doing it.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I do have so Okay, for instance, please for your
listening ears the mayor's race. When I was listening to
the debate and then the feedback. Okay, so it was
current mayor incumbent Mayor Jean Stothard against we'd been the

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mayor for three straight times twelve years, against John Ewing
and some of the there were these critiques of at
the time, the current Treasurer John Ewing about his knowledge
about certain things. But it made me think, like, don't

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you kind of have to have the job to have
that access to that knowledge. There were certain budget things
that they were kind of going back and forth on yeah, right,
And I just remember sitting there thinking and it started
thinking about how that impacts all politicians who are running
for office. Any politician who's running for in office for

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the first time doesn't have access to certain information that
they're going to need to do the job that they'll
get once they're given the keys, right, Yeah, So they're
making statements based off of as much information as they have,
but not all of it. So what I'm saying is
when politicians go out there and they promise you that

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they're going to lass oh the moon and bring it
down for you. Yeah, they're romance in you a little bit.
That's part of the deal. That's how it works. Like,
but they don't have all the answers. How could they
How could they know all they can do all these things.
They're not there yet. They don't know what they don't
know what the roadblocks are going to be. They don't
have keys to the kingdom yet.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Well, and that's one specific example that Gene Stouthert basically said.
He hasn't Like he's saying stuff that he's identifying his problems,
but he doesn't know like hen't he doesn't have plans.
He's articulating to solve them or resolve them. You know why,
because as soon as you start talking in plans that

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are a little bit more detailed, and you're making like
very identifiable promises that aren't super vague, that's when you
can really get got by the people who elected you.
It's just like you said, specifically, we're going to do that,
and then they realize, oh man, that's a little harder
than I thought to do that. But again, I think
when you are listening to any politician, you have to

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be skeptical. You just have to kind of like, is
that going to be true or not.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
It's a prisoner's dilemma to be a politician. You have
to capture the ears, to get the votes, to promise
things you don't know if you can deliver on. Wouldn't
you agree It's like steroids in baseball in the nineties.
The best ones were doing it, so you kind of
had to cheat to just keep up.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I think you're making a really good point right now,
that you have this certain level of when it all
cost that exists in American politics, and there is no
accountability for people who say that they're like one thing
and not going to do.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Ask George Santos, Remember that guy.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yeah, all the stuff he said and none of it
was true, and he got elected and now he's in jail.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah, but he got elected. He fooled enough people that
he got elected. They elected him. I think it's less
the ideas and more just the metal of the candidate,
you know that, the sort of you just want to
know they're a great problem solver, they can think on
their feet.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
You just have to like them better the person, because honestly,
this is one thing about Trump, right, people just aren't
flocked to him as a personality. How many of those
same people watching this big, beautiful bill that kind of
goes against everything they've been saying they wish the government
would do. How many of these people are gonna be like,

(59:01):
what the heck is Trump doing to me?

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Here?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Nobody wants to be wrong, so they will go along
with it. And that's what the Republicans in Congress are doing.
It's like, we better do this to be on the
good side of the people that are making things happen
for us.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I don't know, it's crazy, man,