Linkin Park has a new singer and new music. Thoughts?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Signature voice.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
So many incredible songs that this band put together, you
big Lincoln Park listener back in the day. Yeah, I
mean we've incorporated a lot of the songs in our
show here. Not my favorite band ever, but certainly a
band that I have a playlist of fifteen songs pretty
easily that I like listening to from a variety of
albums from them.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Now, Hybrid Theory for me is freshman year, driving to
school and back.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hybrid Theory had that song on it. That song was
my first introduction to Lincoln Park in the early two thousands. Yes,
and you hear that song, you're just like, what is this?
You're eleven year old years You're just like, whoa. That's
unlike anything I've ever heard before. It's like new metal
personified Mediora. The follow up album had a song called

(00:51):
numb on It and several other great songs, but that
that's one of them. Now, Chester Bennington unfortunately committed suicide.
I think at twenty seventeen. That's seven years ago already. Man,
that's a long time ago, and Lincoln Park basically ceased
to exist as we know it after that. Right, They
have so many good hits, so many great songs, right,

(01:11):
but this band just kind of We're not Lincoln Park
without Chester was kind of the thing. I get it,
I get it, I get it out of nowhere. They
announced that they're back and they have a new lead singer. Now,
I don't know how you recreate a unique individual like
say Chester Bennington, but you know what you could do
is redefine who you are. Obviously, all the rest of

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the band members felt like, you know what, we want
to come back. And so guess who they called to
be their new lead singer.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
A woman.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Her name is Emily Armstrong. She is one of the
founding members and the lead vocalist of a band named
Dead Sarah, which is a rock band that has I mean,
it's rocky stuff right like it goes pretty hard. I
haven't listened to a ton of Dead Sarah. I don't
know a ton about Emily Armstrong or how this even happened.

(02:05):
Now apparently she is, people are already attempting to cancel her.
I'll get to that in a second, but let's listen
to how she sounds. Lincoln Park shared some live footage
of them playing songs together, and here is a very
famous Lincoln Park song called numb and this is a
clip of Emily Armstrong singing it with the band Lincoln Park.

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And if you don't know the song, you'll probably recognize
it pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Staged Young just caught Young drum all right, what do

(02:59):
you think? What do you think?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, it's it's different, And I think that you know,
when bands do this, you always wonder, Okay, are they
gonna find the one for one match of the voice
and basically just try to, you know, resume the band
with a voice that sounds just the same, you know, But.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
We've already established, We've already established he does not have
really anybody that sounds like him that we know of Chester.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, yeah, you wouldn't think so. But I do think.
I mean that you get a female lead singer here.
I think that Mike Shanona, I'm assuming was the head
of the decision of making this because he seems to
be kind of that. He's the leader, right yeah, and
he's got his own music projects going, and he's.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
He's he's he's.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
That's the thing about Mike Shanoda is Mike has fifteen
other things he's got his fingers into. So when the band,
I mean, like I'm sure, the Lincoln Park thing, it
really hurt to lose Chester, but he could creatively have outlets, yeah,
without Lincoln Park specifically. And he really is the leader
of the band. I mean I would say he was
even the leader of the band even with Chester as

(04:10):
the lead singer. Mike Shinoda I think was really more
of the engine behind the creativeness of Lincoln Park than
Chester was. But Chester was the identity. I mean, his
voice is what made Lincoln Park, not that the other parts.
I mean, they were really they're a good band, but
I don't know, man, So it sounds like somebody covering

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Lincoln Park. You couldn't. I would show up to this
show and be like, you just can't replace the singer.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
There's some comments out there that are saying that I
saw that on Twitter that people are saying, oh, this
sounds like a cover band.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I think that.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's its own thing, you know, and it's different, and
that cut right there was. I mean, I feel like
they posted that right and that was. Honestly, if there's
anything I'm surprised most by this, it's the fact that
they posted that that they couldn't have found. I mean, hey,
what's the strategy there? Why is it that clip because
you could have dressed it up quite frankly, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Or or why do I need like, why do you
want me to preview Emily Armstrong as your lead singer?
Why don't you want to leave there to be some
mystery as to how she's gonna sound. Now they're going
on a tour very quickly. It sounds like four hours ago.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
They have.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Started to sell pre sale tickets. They're going to be
at the Forum in LA on September eleventh, New York
on September sixteenth, Then they're going overseas to Hamburg on
September twenty second, London September twenty fourth, Soul South Korea
on the twenty eighth, and then November eleventh and Bagoda.
So just six dates that's going to put him in

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high demand. Nobody's seen this band since the death of
Chester Bennington, so there's that there's gonna be high people
will show up. But isn't it feel a little bit
more like Queen going on tour with out Freddie Mercury
and instead having what's his face from American idol Adam Lambert,
who does a good job. I don't want to make
it sound like it's a bad if you want to

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watch Brian May play guitar. I mean, like you're gonna
see Queen. But I refused even to see Fleetwood Mac
when they kicked Lindsay Buckingham out of the band a
few years ago.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
But doing this with this singer, to me, is kind
of signaling like I've guess they're probably gonna be new music.
They're not just gonna be going around this.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
There's going to be a brand new version of this project.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
That's my that's my theory. Well whatever, I guess, it
doesn't have to be for me.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
News Radio eleven ten kfab their new album is coming
out November fifteenth, so that would be these six worldwide
shows that they have scheduled that they're gonna be performing
at around the world. Is going a run up to that,
so you definitely think you're gonna be hearing a lot
of the new stuff. She says Chester Bennington will never

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be replaced, but I think it is a good call
to have a female We need more female rock singers.
I don't disagree with that point. I like female voices,
I really do. There are probably more than people realize,
but a lot of them are kind of like underground types.
There's a band called The Warning by the way, it's
three sisters from Mexico. They're awesome, legitimate, like Modern Rock

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checked them out, called The Warning the Warning gotcha, Yeah,
that's awesome. And then they said that their new song
sounds like the original Lincoln Park, but with a new voice.
Maybe they should have changed their name to keep it separate. Yeah,
I don't, just like I understand that part of it
because there have been bands that did that, right, where
like a big portion of a band left, like the

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lead singer, right, it didn't have him with Creed, like
Scott Stapp left to do solo stuff, and Creed kind
of broke up in the early to mid two thousand,
said Creed didn't keep performing his Creed without Scott Stapp.
They went and formed alter Bridge. Was that, but they
had some new members in ulter Bridge. I thought they did.
It was just Mark Tremanti, but then it was some
other new guys. Yeah, but Mark Tremonti and it was

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the bassist and the drummer too. Oh okay, it was
a whole band. I didn't know that. Okay, let me
just double check that. But they it was a new name. Right,
But I don't think a lot of people see alter
Bridge as like I don't say any think people see
alter Bridges like this kind of Miles Kennedy version of Creed.
You know, I think alter Bridge could have been way

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bigger at the start if you would have recognized the
fact that it was basically Creed with a new singer.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
So if they would have gone with Creed, you think
it would have worked better for them.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
But maybe they were just like, we know, without Scotts Stapp,
it's not going to be Creed, So why are we
who are we kidding? We don't want to backlash from
those fans. A little bit of a different thing than
the lead singer dying and you go on a seven
year hiatus because of a lead singer dying. Right, Yeah,
yes it is Mark Tremonty, Brian Marshall and Scott Phillips,

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all founding members of Creed. I didn't know that with
Miles with Miles Kennedy. So so alter Bridge is literally
the entire seventy five percent of the original Creed lineup,
with just a different singer. So go listen to alter Bridge,
go listen to cre see how much of it sounds
The same now you know the more you know?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, how about that?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
What do you think I think you need the I
think you need the Lincoln Park name. I just don't
think people are gonna be buzzed about it if you
just call it something else.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I agree, And I think that if you own the name,
you know that take advantage of it. You're right, I
mean why not, because like you're saying, yeah, if they
came out with a new name, people would have to
have the explanation to understand and it wouldn't be generating
as much buzz. And this is what's gonna give them
the biggest chance to have the.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
And they can and they can perform. Like, here's the
thing about alter Bridge. How often do you think alter
Bridge broke into My Sacrifice?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Do you think they did? I don't think they did. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
If you're if you're advertising yourself as Creed, you're gonna
have to play that song, right, Yep? You want to
hear anybody other than Scott STAPs singing my My sacrifice,
My My Like no, Then again, I didn't think I
wanted to hear anyone other than Chester Bennington sing crawling
or numb right mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
There's or fifteen other Lincoln Park songs that I like.
Let's see what they have. They came out with any music, she.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Said, there's a song out there's a new song, a
new song that sounds like the original new Metal Lincoln Park.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm gonna look. I'm gonna look that up now.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
All right, and you can listen to it during the break,
and then we can I'll do the same. I don't
know what it's called, but it's out there somewhere, and
I'm sure it's trending. There's a Christian band called the Newsboys.
Oh yeah, you're familiar with the Newsboys. I was a
big Newsboys fan, big Newsboys fan. I saw him when
I was a kid. I had, you know, four or
five Newsboy CDs. They are They've been around a while,

(10:36):
and the Newsboys have gone through several changes, but the
most notable change in the last fifteen years has been
Peter Furler, who was the lead singer for a while,
left and they brought in what's this face from DC Talk?
Oh that's right, what's his name, Michael something?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I know it's not Toby Mackett's the other guy from
DC Talk. I can't I can't remember his name.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
He's a good singer.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Hm. You see Michael Taate, Okay, yeah, Michael Taate. Yeah
you want to keep in this line of well just
real quick.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
But they when Michael Tate came on board, they started
making new music immediately that sounded very different than old Newsboys.
And I hadn't seen I'll be honest with you, I
hadn't seen the Newsboys in a long time. But I
will tell you that even though the rest of the
band was pretty much similar or close to the same
as the Newsboys I grew up with, they were not.

(11:30):
They basically, like, based on what I was seeing in
set lists and stuff, they weren't even touching a lot
of the old stuff. So there was an example of
a band that changed lead singers, and Michael Tait didn't
sing a lot of the old Peter Furler and Sean
Taylor John James era Newsboys stuff like they were talking
like he was singing Michael Tait Newsboys stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And now, I mean it's been long enough now where
people like the New Newsboys fans, I mean they only
know the Newsboys with Michael Tait as the as the guy.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
You know what I mean? So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
They kind of did leave certain eras where they were,
and I don't know. Maybe that's a way you could
do that, But nobody's gonna go see Lincoln Park. Maybe
not nobody, but could you imagine Lincoln Park playing just
a small portion of the hits from twenty like almost
twenty years worth of good music and mostly new stuff?

(12:24):
Like is that gonna excite you to go see them
if they come in your Omaha?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Have you asked me that's the way you got to
do it? I just don't. You don't want to see
Emily Armstrong singing these songs. I'm just saying from a
I mean those songs.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Correct me if I'm wrong, Amy, let me know if
I'm wrong, because she would be the expert on this.
I would assume that Chester was kind of the one
writing that music. Those songs came to me.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Okay, does that matter? Yes?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Does it matter that somebody who's writing the song is
performing the song, because there's a lot of country artists
especially that performed songs that were written by somebody else.
But that's Jason Aldem made a career playing songs written
by somebody else.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, and that's cool.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
In that genre, but I don't see that being cool
with Lincoln Park or their fans.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
All right, give me a Lincoln Park song. Crawling in
the End, paper Cut.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
In the End is such a banger. Yeah, okay, let
me find the discography here. There it is songs. I'm
going to click on these songs rapid fire as you've
said them, and I'm going to tell you who was
the premier premier songwriters, because Shanoda would have to be
on some of these, don't you think.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, I'm sure that there are contributors. But my theory
is your hybrid theory. Hybrid theory is Chester wrote these
lyrics and they were mostly his lyrics.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
The lyrics mmm mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Interesting they are listed as written by Lincoln Park, all
of them, okay, which I'm guessing just means that they
all had a hand in writing it.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
You know, when I I mean, when I hear the
song in the end, I see Chester singing it.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's his song.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I guess that's just even though Mike Sheoa sings more
of that song or has more words in that song
than Chester does.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, they go back and forth. Yeah, Chester was just
he was the he was the emotional front man of
that band.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Chester is unlike any other vocalist that has ever walked
the face of the earth.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
In a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Those songs were heavy too. Oh yeah, he embodied the
heavy weighty you know.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Did you watch it in later years, like the mid
twenty tens, when they would perform Crawling, they did like
a slow piano like Shinoda would be playing the piano
and it wouldn't be the high energy that you know,
the crawling version we play on our show. It was
like a ballad. Oh and it makes you cry the
way that Chester could sing it like that. He is, like,
there's the way that he would He was an emotional singer.

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And I'll be honest with you, I'm with you in
a lot of ways. I'm not so sure that Amy
is good or sorry that Emily is going to be
able to pull that feeling out of me. I don't
know if I need to see Lincoln Park badly enough
to watch her try to be Chester Bennington.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
I do still, I want to give it a fair shot.
With their songs and new songs.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I'm talking specifically about the songs we already.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Know, because I can tell you this, I believe in
Mike Shinoda as an incredible, you know musician.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
You're you're saying he wouldn't let anything bad happen to
the Lincoln Park name.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
I think I'm just a fan of the idea and
I like having them back, you know what I mean. Like,
here's what it is. I don't want to bash new music,
especially from established, amazing musicians. I want to give it
its fair go because I'm glad to have it, you
know what I mean. It's kind of like the new
Star Wars movies. All the fanboys in their basement were
hitting the computer keys about how it wasn't this, and

(15:42):
it wasn't that. It's like, isn't it just nice to
have new Star Wars? Come on, guys.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I don't know. It depends on who you ask.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Now, there are a lot of Star Wars people in
hindsight say that they should have just left it where
it was. But then again, I'm kind of with you.
If you really love that world, why is expanding that
world bad?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, and what you were going to make a whole
new movie and Luke Skywalker was gonna still be the
exact same and it was gonna work together perfectly.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
No he had to have some sort of turn of character.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
There was an absolutely, there was no way you could
look at how those three movies were and somehow add
to that story. Toy Story four fails because of that. Right,
you needed the prequel. I think we miss They missed
the boat with Toy Story four. They could have gone
Star Wars prequel style and figured, like we could see

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the like how Wood he ended up in Andy's bedroom
we begin with. That would have been a much more
compelling story than a freaking spork.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Being the main character. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
so I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I get the idea of having more, But I'm afraid
that this could be the spork of the music industry.
Maybe Lincoln Park may have found their spork. Maybe he's
a fork.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
I don't know. I didn't care enough to make note.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
All I know is somebody put googly eyes on a
plastic utensil and they made a movie about it.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
And they still haven't made a side movie featuring Sid
as a mad scientist all grown up. You could have
done one hundred things with it. You could have done
one hundred things if you wanted to bring Toy Story back. Instead,
you made a spork or a fork the main character.
I don't understand Hollywood anyway. If you got thoughts on
this or anything else, call its four h two, five
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Speaker 4 (17:28):
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Speaker 2 (17:32):
So that's the interesting thing about our radio show, Susan,
is that we kind of try to talk about anything
and everything that speaks to us. It's a Friday, so
obviously we're going to spend a little bit more time
on lighter topics.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
But this is a pretty big deal. It's all over
the place.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
We found the new song by Lincoln Park with the
new version, and how many views has this got on YouTube?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
I mean millions already.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
I mean this drops released, yeah, just not even a
day ago, already almost five million.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
So almost five million people have watched this in less
than twenty four hours. So it's a pretty big deal.
It's all over social media. This is probably the biggest
story that's being talked about, at least right now in
on my feeds. I'm a big music fan, though, so
whatever that's worth, I would say this is a pretty
big deal. I mean, this is a band that's been
gone for seven years from our lives. And I think

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anybody between the ages of thirty and maybe fifty probably
have some relationship with Lincoln Park if they like music
at all, whether they like them or dislike them, they're
aware of them.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I would guess that, like, there's probably a pretty firm
cut off. If you're in here, like mid forties and above,
this probably doesn't mean much to you at all, But
that would be my guess.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
But we talked to a lot of people below the
age of forty five. Yeah, and you and I are
both a member of that under forty five group, so
you know it's not we talked. We talked about Oasis
at length a couple weeks ago we found out they
were getting back together, so you know, like we are
equal opportunity. We played Hendrix coming back from a break here.
I mean we music's a big deal to us. You

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found some of this song here.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
What's it called?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
It is called the Emptiness Machine, And for research purposes,
let's listen to a clip of this thing real quick.
This is the new Lincoln Park song with brand new
lead vocalist Emily Armstrong along with Mike Shinoda, who is
also a co lead singer of Lincoln Park and mainly
what I would consider to be the leader of this
band through its entire history. But here is a Lincoln

(19:23):
Park's new song.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
You Trot Me.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
And the first Okay, that's the second verse and chorus.
I was listening to the first verson chorus. It's Mike
doing that. And there's some mic in there too there
at the end there. But anyway, appreciate you grabbing that.
They also live streamed. I think the whole like this
was a show, like did they do a live Yeah,

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it was a live show that they streamed twenty one
hours ago. Now I don't know if that was a
show that they did live, just kind of out of nowhere.
The new album, like Amy mentioned, is November fifteenth. The
live show that they dropped and streamed twenty two hours ago.
Already four point five million views. So people are interested

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in this. You've heard one song.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
What do you think? It sounds like.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Lincoln Park but with a different lean singer. You know,
you wouldn't think Lincoln Park when you hear it because
of the voice.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Now, let me put it this way. If I'm listening
to the radio, if I'm listening to rock ninety four
to nine, man up, and I am hearing this song.
Come on right, Do I know it's Lincoln Park right
away unless they say it? Nope, no, zero percent chance.
I agree, you might know Mike Shinoda's voice. My brain
is conditioned to not include Lincoln Park in my vernacular

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because I haven't thought about new Lincoln Park songs for
seven years. So them to come out of nowhere with this,
I mean, this was not announced. Nobody knew this. This
just dropped. This was not a waste of saying next year,
we're going on a tour. This is Hey, by the way,
here's a new song, we have a new lead singer.
Here's a live show that we performed with her enjoy
less than twenty four hours ago. And everybody's like wait, wait,
wait what hmm, that's interesting context. And then the clip

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that they released, which is definitely a more raw clip
of them singing crawling no numb, No, I'm sorry, that's
right numb. It fits with the branding of that sort
of like they just drop it out. They're more willing
to be more vulnerable. They understand that they're.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Not they're not feeling out what people think about the idea.
They're just like we're doing this where it's already done.
Buckle up. I like it because they announced Emily Armstrong,
who very few people probably know who she is, as
the new lead singer of this legendary rock band of
our era, and she's replacing a guy who's dead. Now
that was a huge part of our musical lives. I'll
be hones with you. I'm not gonna like this immediately. Okay,

(22:03):
not gonna like it immediately, because why are you resurrecting
this band in a way like that is so different
when most of what we know and love about this
band was the guy who's no longer here. I'm gonna
have time to like think about it and hate it
probably and just have to wait until I hear what
it sounds like. They didn't give us that option before

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any announcement was made. They just dropped it. Bang, there
it is. Hey, here's a new song. Didn't expect this,
did you.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Here's six shows that were going on a worldwide tour.
Here's this.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh, by the way, new album dropping in November, don't
forget about that. Oh, and here is a live performance,
like an hour set of us playing with her that
were streaming on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
By the way, you don't even know who she is yet,
like it happened so fast you didn't have any choice
but to like understand, Okay, this is just the way
it is. You don't even get to have an opinion
yet right.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Doing it all that way, to me suggests a couple
things of their thought process. One is, we know they're
going to be people who hate this absolutely. Two is
we don't care. This is what we're doing, correct.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I like it too. You know what, it was done
totally preemptively. They didn't need to feel it out and
see what people's reaction was. They were gonna do it
no matter what people thought about it. It'll just be
interesting to see what the sets look like once they
released this album and how much of Emily Versus Chester
music we get. And I don't know, I don't know
how interested I'm going to be in Emily Lincoln Park.

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But I guess time is going to tell on that
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Speaker 2 (23:45):
She says there was a countdown online a few weeks ago.
I missed this. I didn't see this, but she says
it ended, and then there was a count up for
a date of yesterday. We knew what was coming and
we I'm sure you know, Lincoln Park fans everywhere. Everyone
originally thought the new singer was going to be Derek
from Some forty one, which I've seen Some forty one.
They're also of the same era. They are a punky band,

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not necessarily the same music, but not that dissimilar, and
Derek from Some forty one actually kind of sings the
same way Chester did, and he's got a very unique
sound of unique voice. If you go find some some
forty one, you'll know what I'm talking about. He kind
of has that kind of a scratchy, kind of screamy
type sound most of the time, but also can get

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pretty intimate when it's a softer song. And there are
songs of some forty one sing that kind of can
do that and match up with what Chester did. So
now I'm thinking about it like he would have been
a pretty solid choice. Unfortunately, well or fortunately depending on
what you think. They went with a female. Emily Armstrong
is her name. Now, of course, our talkback is open,
which the way that you can leave as a talk

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back is by going to the free iHeart Radio app,
which by the way, is free, and on the free
iHeart Radio app you can search for eleven to ten KFA,
but you can even add it to your station. So
it's one of the first things that pop up when
you open the app. You click on it and it
has this big red microphone button. You click the microphone button,
you'll get a chance to leave us up to thirty
seconds of your best audio, and we don't mind playing

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that if you leave us some good audio and we
like what we hear. Let's go ahead and listen to
a couple of these talk backs about Lincoln Park. Let's
start with Andy.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I hear you when you say it's going to be
hard to get used to.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
But when you think about it, Lincoln Park, besides Chester,
for obvious reasons, has been healing for the last seven years,
and this, I guarantee was a very difficult decision for
them for a long time, and this is them moving
on finally healing and turning a new page. I think

(25:46):
if anybody really enjoyed Chester and Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Oh, we ran out of time there for Andy. But
he's not wrong. Let's be realistic here. He's not wrong.
They had seven years to think about this and for
healing themselves. I think that's a fair point. They certainly
and Mike Shanoda, especially as the leader of the band,
they wouldn't have done this if he didn't feel like
it was the right thing to do.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, that and you know that's interesting the way he
puts that. I can I could definitely see that.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
We don't.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Again, this is kind of like the thing about humanizing
our politicians. We don't do that enough. We don't see
them as human enough. We don't see our celebrities like
that whole lot either, and that includes rock bands. Have
you ever tried to be in a rock band before?
I mean, it's really like a marriage or a family
in a lot of ways, and that's why so many
of them end up breaking up because they just don't
get along. You know, being around people for that long

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sometimes is negative. Or in this case, when you had
such a positive relationship, maybe it's a pot like like
it it's incredibly difficult to have this happen when you
have such a strong and good relationship like it seemingly
Chester and the rest of this band.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Did you know what I'm saying, So many other circumstances
similar to this. You know, you think about let's bring
it to you know, Nirvana, and you know Dave Growl. Yep,
he's gone through this a couple times now. He has
awful but he you know, he obviously didn't make the
decision to wait a while and then try to well,

(27:10):
and he soon, But in that circumstance, there was no
like Kurt Cobain, and you.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Know, I mean he changed.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
He started a new band, like Dirvana, seased to exist
when Kurt Cobain committed suicide. Like like Nirvana, it was
no longer a thing. He started the Food Fighters a
little different. No disrespect to Taylor Hawkins. He's incredible. You
can tell his drumming in a lot of tracks. But
losing the drummer is not the same as losing a
lead singer, especially for the audience. You know what I'm saying,

(27:37):
m H If I if I showed, if I put
Taylor Hawkins on a drum track of a song and
then I put say, uh, get you Ronny Venucci from
The Killers, another fantastic drummer of the era on drums.
If you've listened to a lot of Food Fighters and
a lot of The Killers, you might be able to
tell which one is which. I'm guessing people who just

(27:57):
listen to the radio and have it sought out Food
or The Killers, they would not recognize which one was which.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
You're going to.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Immediately think something different than Lincoln Park when you hear
this what's the name of the song.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
The Emptiness Machine.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
When you hear that, you're not going to be thinking
specifically about Lincoln Park?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Is that fair to say?

Speaker 7 (28:16):
So?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
It's a little bit different than maybe Dave's situation. This
doesn't happen that often where a band loses a lead
singer while they're still really kind of in their prime.
I mean, these guys are barely forty when this happened,
and then you know, this happens where the lead singer
commits suicide. They just cease to exist for obvious reasons.
I understand all of that. But then when they come

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back to come back with a completely different lead singer
who is kind of similar in what she's trying to
sound like. I think as the old guy. While the
sound of the new music seemingly is going to be
kind of a little adjustment, but not that different than
what they were making before.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's a weird deal.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Before we continue, got a note from one of my
coworkers here, Dodd westbound Dodge westbound down to one lane.
Dodge westbound down to one lane, total nightmare on one
ninety second or at one ninety second.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Avoid.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Okay, so you're thinking about getting out of town to
the west of town there westbound Dodge.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Something has happened there. We will look into it.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Our first traffic report is coming up here right yea,
So hopefully we get a note on that. But avoid
westbound Dodge right now if you can, especially if you're
finishing up your work here at the four o'clock hour before.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
You hit the brake.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Got another talk back about Lincoln Park, and this one
is from TJ as TJ talks to us about his
thoughts on the new lead singer and the new music
dropping by Lincoln Park Emery.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
This is TJ. I listened to you every day. You're
doing a good job, man. I just want to chime
in on your Lincoln Park fiasco that you're talking about.
The band was not named the Chester Band. It was
named Lincoln Park. The big than one person, and they're
going to prove that, at least according to my wife
and daughters, that I love them fair enough.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
So there you go to all right, thanks c Jre.
This goes back to your point. Why would we be
complaining about new Lincoln Park. Yeah, just because it's not
the exact same And I don't know if I'm upset
about the new music as much as I am, I'm
not sure I want to hear Emily Armstrong try to
sing Chester.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
You know what I mean? Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I didn't want what's his face, Tom Petty's old guitarist
playing Lindsay Buckingham's guitar solos in the Fleetwood matt concert.
I just decided not to go. It's not the same
and maybe that's a meat problem.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I think it'd be cool that they're back touring and
making music. Don't get me wrong, it's just not the same. Well,
and I would say that before you write it off.
Let's hear from Mike, Let's hear from the other bandmates.
Let's hear or over to that one song see her
more than one song? Yeah, Craig emails in get a
load of this. I'm sixty three years old. I have
heard of Lincoln Park. I've never been a fan of

(31:02):
their music, but because of your show today, I jumped
on YouTube real quick to look up Lincoln Park and
their music. Holy cow, they now have a new fan.
Though I typically do not care for any kind of rap,
a couple of songs that I quickly listened to did
have some rap in them, and I still like the
songs all right. I will probably shock my kids when
they find out that I'm suddenly into Lincoln Park's music.

(31:23):
My music has always been Aerosmith and the Stones, in
that era of music that I grew up with. But
thanks for talking about Lincoln Park today. Now, Lincoln Park.
One of the cool things about their music is that
it's kind of a kind of a confluence of sound
mm hmmm, which is one of the reasons why I
think they're so popular is because they don't really fit
into like specific genres. I think people call them a
new metal band because they were kind of founded upon

(31:44):
those principles. But there's a lot of just like parts
that Mike Shinoda raps in the songs, and it fits good.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know what helps.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Good drumming, excellent guitar playing, really cool hooks with the
synthesizer stuff, and Chester Bennington's vocals. Yeah, it ties it
all together. Man. Their catalog is awesome. They really do
have a lot of great songs. So I'm glad to
hear that. Craig, I'm glad you're getting a lot out
of this. Hopefully many others are doing that as well.
It's an interesting date, to say the least, though, because

(32:13):
we did. I didn't see this coming. This came out
of left field. Now I have to tell you, in
the last twelve hours, people have already tried to cancel
emil A.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Armstrong for a variety of reasons.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I will tell you why and if it's worth canceling
her for next on news Radio eleven to ten KFAB.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Emrie Sunger on News Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
We'll get to how people are already trying to cancel
her within twenty four hours of us learning about her
being the new lead singer of Lincoln Park, after really
having no clues about who she was or where she
came from until like right when she joins this pretty
legendary band of our era Aj has a great example
of this. He says, I couldn't bring myself to listen
to Van Hagar Van Halen with Sammy Hagar as the

(32:56):
lead singer. When David Lee Roth left the band in
the mid eighties, said Diamond Dave was a way better lead.
Many people say David Lee Roth is one of the
best front men of all time. He's certainly not the
greatest vocalist of all time, but the energy, his ability
to lead the band. I mean, I think everybody who

(33:16):
came after him wanted a little bit of David Lee
Roth in them if they were a traditional front man
or woman. I mean, he's really like the prototype. Sammy
Hagar probably had a better voice. Though, Yeah, it's tough now,
this guy didn't die, so I mean there's a little
bit of a different thing. And the band never stopped performing. Really,
it was just like the Dave's gone, let's you know,

(33:38):
let's reel in Sammy Hagar here who was available, and
they had another big gaggle of hits after that, you
know what I mean. So it's hard to say that
they weren't as successful, but it definitely sounded a lot different.
It was a completely different sounding band. What did David
Lee Roth do after he.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Left solo stuff?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
And it wasn't as successful as he probably would have
liked it to be for whatever reason, you know what
I mean. I feel like Sammy Hagar probably had a
little bit more success as a solo artist than DLR did.
But it's a good example of like, okay, so you
completely changed the sound of an existing band. Now again,
you want to know the secret. I think Eddie Van

(34:17):
Halen is the greatest guitar player ever, so I'm gonna
listen no matter what. And I'm a big fan of
all of the Hagar stuff too, so it's hard for
me to dislike any of that. So pretty wild, and
I don't know, I feel like that's a pretty legit
And that's a pretty legit perspective there on a very

(34:38):
very popular music act having a singer change. Now here's
the attempted cancelation of Emily Armstrong, who already within twenty
four hours of being announced is the elite new lead
singer of this band. Lincoln Park people have figured out
and has found out that she is associated with the

(34:58):
Church of Scientology and that she actually showed up and
supported Danny Masterson in the middle of his rape trial
two years ago. Of course, he was then convicted of
rape in now he is in prison. So I'm seeing
many people who say, Lincoln Park I was super excited
to see him come back, But now I found out
that she's a scientologist and defended Danny Masterson, and now
I'm out. I can't support this band as long as

(35:19):
she's the lead singer. How did the band not care
about this? Before I get to that, Dan's on the
phone line. I want to take this call.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Dan. What do you think about the conversation we're having here?

Speaker 5 (35:27):
You're your way off on the David Lee Roth Steven
Tyler was, without a doubt, the world's greatest pro man.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
Mmm.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
He's pretty good too. Yeah, and he would have preciated.
He would have predated, had the.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Energy that playing buoyancy and all that. And David Lee
Roth was just kind of an overall jerk anyway.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Well, yeah, he's a jerk. I mean, there's no doubt.
I mean, I don't know anybody who likes David Lee
Roth as a person. He's a weird guy. But Steven
Tyler's a pretty weird guy too. Where you got me here, Dan,
is that they are pretty similar. And Steven Tyler would
have predated uh, David Lee Roth by a few years, so.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
You're exactly David. Steven Tyler came first, so David Lee
kind of copied him. But David Lee Roth is also
the reason that Sammy Hagar became the lead for Van Haalen.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, and I like the Hagar stuff too. I think
that sounded just fine to me. And Sammy Hagar a
much better dude from all the sounds of it. All right,
fair enough, Dan, appreciate your call.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
And plus, Steven Tyler's got a hot ass daughter.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, what's her name? She was in the movie That
Thing You Do. She's the chicken That Thing You Do?

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Live Tyler?

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, yeah, live there you go. Good call, Good call, Dan,
appreciate you calling in. All right, So anyway, are we
canceling Lily Armstrong? Do we care? Is that enough for
people to not want to support Lincoln Park in their
comeback that the band decided that they didn't care about
her connection to Scientology or alleged connection to Scientology and

(36:48):
her alleged support of Danny Masterson. I can't prove that
I haven't seen this stuff. I'm just seeing what people
are saying about it. That's a tough look. It is
a tough look because he was convicted. Yeah, no doubt.
I don't know what her relationship was to him, but
she was there to support him.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Okay, so we don't know. I don't know. I don't
know if she's a former girlfriend or something whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
She showed up at his trial and supported him. Apparently
two years ago people found this out because I think,
I don't know if people are trying to cancel her
or they were just looking about more stuff about her
and found out about the scientology and the masters and stuff,
and they're like, Okay, now we have to cancel her.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I mean, I'm pretty well all the way out on
guilty by association, Like she didn't commit any crimes as
far as I.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Understand, right, but she was there supporting somebody who was
convicted of rape. And she's replacing a person who committed suicide,
who had, you know, apparently some traumatic experiences with you know,
sexual assault committed on them at some point in their life.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Heavy heavy stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
So yes or no? Does this matter? I don't have
any canceling powers. Well, but I does it affect you?
I'll be honest for me, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I've said this.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I had no problem watching Colin Kaepernick play football, but
because he was kneeling before football games, I separated those things.
I thought he was a lousy football player, all right.
If I was a forty nine er fan, it would
have bothered me. I would have wanted a new quarterback
because he sucked, not because he kneeled for the national anthem.
I separate these things. It's a free country. People can
have whatever they want. I don't have to like them.

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At the same time, I've already told you I might
have some qualms about Emily Armstrong already, for different reasons
than the fact that she's a scientologist. Anyway, Friday four,
coming up News Radio eleven ten kfab