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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm an honest man, and I'm must admit I didn't
make the full twenty one with no caffeine. I got
to about day twelve and my brain turned into oatmeal,
and uh, I just I don't know, man, that's rough
what I learned. Can I tell you what I learned
real briefly? Yeah, but tell me what you're drinking first.
Everybody's waiting to cheers. I get an empty cup.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh so you're not drinking, you're drinking air.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah. I will drink some air just for you. That'll
You want some?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You want some cola? You drinking from it? No? I
just opened it?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh you did? Yeah, you give you a little cola?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, I got some Zevia cola zevia.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Oh it's clear.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah. Oh it's like clear pepsi. Oh, don't compare it
to that. All right, Cheers to you, cheers. How's it taste?
Tastes like arc cola kind of Oh well that's good.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Definitely take you. Definitely taste the artificial sweetener the yeah, yeah, zeba.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, there's no actual sugar in this. It's supposed to
be healthier for you. It's why it doesn't taste quite
as good anyway, all right, Yeah, we'll get to this
Obama thing because I just want to mention it because
social media today especially is running with this. But first
I want to know what you learned, Tell people what
you were doing. I did a quick fast, a twenty
one day fast to start the new year. It was
(01:07):
it was a fast that you know, just I did
a Bible devotion along with just to kind of enhance
my spiritual life and grow closer in my faith. And
I gave up some things in the fast, and one
of those things was caffeine for twenty one days.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I didn't make the full twenty one didn't. I didn't
make it.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You're fasting off of caffeine, but you also said you
were also fasting off of food.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, I was how that, you know what, I conveniently
haven't brought this up since I first talked about it.
I talked such a big game on that day. I
don't even know what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, this is why I wanted to people to get
an update now that we're past the dates, right, because
I was very open earlier in the show about my
CrossFit workout today. It was my first CrossFit workout in
like over seven years. But the whole point is like,
I'm trying to better myself, right, and there are different
ways to do that, and this was something that you
thought would better yourself, even though I in the moment
(02:00):
was just like who act Like who would choose to
do this themselves? But how did it go?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Was it was good? I mean for its stated purpose.
It absolutely was a benefit to me. And I think
that it was a very good thing, and it's absolutely
something that I'm going to continue to revisit at different times.
There is a great precedent for it that you can
find in the Bible of why people fast and so.
And it certainly was good for me in that sense.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I mean, isn't lanked kind of a kind of a
thing like that?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, you don't give up like food in general, but
you give up some food or you know, certain.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Rights, give up one thing and that was kind of me.
I gave up caffeine. I survived on no caffeine for
about twelve or thirteen days, and boy, I just you know,
with the schedule I keep, and I couldn't do it
for one day, dude. It was it was you know
what The funny thing was the first couple of days
were fine, I thought I was going to be rough
in at the first couple days. I was expecting like
(02:54):
caffeine headaches and everything. I was okay. But for some
weird reason, I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I just had caffeine reserve nerves in my body or
what it was, but it was just something about once
I got about ten days in, I was just like, man,
you're dragging.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I was. I mean, you talk about some brain fog. Goodness, gracious,
I was just like I was forgetting. I mean I
I I would have forgotten myself if I wasn't attached
to it, honestly, Like, I just was dragging. And so
I got back on the sauce. The caffeine.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta take inventory. You know,
you can't. You can't be messing around with your entire
day like that. Yeah, I mean we're not even just
talking about one thing. We're talking about an entire day.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah. What about the food part of it? The food
part of it. I had plans to, uh, to be
a little bit more intense with the food part of it,
and didn't quite do exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
What I intended.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It was.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
What was the what was it was like seven days
of one thing, seven days of another thing in literally.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, the first seven days I was going to do
the one meal a day, which I did. I actually
did that for about two weeks. The the the next
seven days, I was going to do just one meal
a day, but just vegetables. And then the third week
I was just going to actually just do a liquid fast,
which means for seven days you weren't going to eat anything.
That was the plan. Electrolytes. Does that work? Juice? Well,
people do juice cleans and things like that. I mean,
(04:05):
I was gonna try it, but you know what, I
never got there and never did it, so so I
don't know how it works because I never did it.
So there you go. Okay, I didn't do it. I
failed the mission. But you know what I it's it's
the spirit of the intent. My heart was in a
good place and I didn't quite complete my mission. But
the way you were talking is like you're you're getting defensive.
(04:25):
I guess yourself, like, yeah, a little bit, yeah, a
little disappointed in you today, Matt. Coming from me, I
just like to tell you that, Matt Live on the radio,
we're disappointed in you, Matt. No, we're not.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You nobody was making you do this. No, that's the thing.
I was just like, why would someone voluntarily like take
this on? And again, like you said, it did have
its intended you know, work it just you know, you
didn't necessarily meet up with the exact goals that you had, right,
And so again I'm kind of hamming it up a
little bit by being super disappointed in myself. I'm really not,
because it was it was a good thing. I didn't
(04:59):
do it exactly how how I planned it out, but
it was it was a good experience, something I'm going
to return to, and my heart was in a good
place with it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And I think that they're going to do it again.
I think so at some point. I don't know when,
but at some point I will. I will do something
like that and it'll be caffeine. I don't think so.
But but honestly though, like, Okay, it bothers me, would
it bother anyone else? It bothers me that I need that, right,
Like I with the way my life is right now,
if I was in a different place and I just
(05:25):
could different places mentally or physically, it just with with
with my life just generally, I just don't feel like
I just feel like I'm too busy right now to
generally just give up caffeine and be able to ride
that out. Because I really thought i'd get to a
point if you would have told me going in that
the first couple of days would have been easy, but
then I got to about twelve or thirteen and it
was tough. I wouldn't have believed you. I would have thought, no, no, no,
(05:47):
the first they are going to be tough, and then
by twelve or thirteen, my body's gonna be used to
it out of my system. I'll be fine. But it
wasn't that way. I was dragging and then I had to,
you know, get back on the caffeinated monster energy, drank coffee.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know, there's nothing inherently wrong with this in the
modern day, and I just and.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
There's a lot of good there are a lot of
good properties to caffeine. I just think, you know what
it is. It's is just me personally. I don't like
the idea that I'm dependent on something to make it
through my day.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I don't like I don't think you're dependent as much
as is it's an aid to you. And you got
a glimpse of two weeks what it's like to not
have that aid. You're getting it mixed up with like
your AI conversation, right, It's just like you think AI
is just going to go off the rails and it's
completely gonna be responsible for itself and all this stuff. No,
it's only here to help. Caffeine isn't driving you. It's
(06:36):
not really making you do anything. You have to make
all your own decisions of the day, but it's an
aid to allowing you to do that and be happy.
And you know what, it makes people happy.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You know what though, You know what, though, look, I
understand the way you're talking here, but let me tell you,
there was just moments where I realized, man, uncaffeinated Matt
is just not making good life decisions. Like I mean
not that I was like ruining my life without caffeine.
It was just I couldn't think clearly it. I was like, man,
what's going on? I got this brain fog. I just
really I just wasn't on my game. I just wasn't
on my game.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But that's okay because now you know, and all I'm
saying is for people out there that's listening to this
and just like you guys are losers. Just like I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that you you have that unfortunate I'm sorry
that you look at us and we're somehow lesser beings
because this is the kind of thing that people go
through these days to try to test themselves. It's a challenge, right, Yeah,
(07:27):
more than anything, you're just challenging yourself. It's good to
challenge yourself, even if it's something that I would never
have challenged myself on me and you were not the same.
I mean you, I'm gonna do different things in my life.
I did a half marathon. Are you gonna run a
half marathon? I probably have.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Walcked that amount before. I've never ran that amount and
I haven't run in quite a while. I do like
going on long walks, and once I get going again
in the spring in the summer, I'll walk a trail
that basically ends up being a half marathon. So thirteen miles,
Yeah about that, So I will do that. I just
haven't added the running component to it. But well, what
I'm saying is that challenged me. And you know what
I felt like on the other end of that, like
(08:03):
a billion dollars. You know, it sucked getting ready for it.
I wasn't sure how the race would feel. After the
race was over and I knew I'd completed my goal,
you want to know what I felt like.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I felt like a billion dollars. So challenge yourself. You
never know what you are or are not capable of,
and you never know what's actually inside you until you
actually give it a go. And if you're getting off
of work, and this is not a lecture or a
preaching but this is my personal philosophy. If you are
going from your bed to work, to home to the
couch and then back to bed, like and that's kind
(08:35):
of your day, and you're not like mixing it up,
you're not trying to do different things. That kind of
sedentary lifestyle. I mean, there's so much life that you're
leaving on the table there. And if that's the life
and you're happy doing that, congratulations, But just know that
there's a lot more out there for us. And that's
why I like, we talk about so many things that
kind of depress people like myself included. I'll be honest
(08:58):
with you, I feel generally depressed some days after like
some of the difficult conversations that we have. I sit
on the radio for six hours a day. Yeah, four
hours here, two hours on another show in the morning,
And sometimes it wears me out mentally and even physically
sometimes of just like I just want to forget this.
I want a couple hours just to do something else.
So I have a lot of drive to kind of
(09:20):
like wet my palate with other things. But you know,
sometimes if you're doing stuff that you're okay with doing,
I guess you can just not challenge yourself. But I
got to tell you, the challenge is even if I
don't achieve what I want to achieve, the journey makes
me better person on the other end of it, regardless.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I'm right there with you. I can tell you this
time a year, it was perfect timing for me to
do something like that, like a fast because there's just
something about this time of year. People talk about seasonal
affect disorder. It's definitely something that I have struggled with
in the past. And I mean just generally speaking. You
hear all this New Year's Revolution stuff on top of
that as well. Yeah, and there's just something about the
time of year. It's right after Christmas, it's cold outside.
(10:00):
It's just that I feel like that is a time
of year that is just primed for more just difficult times, you.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Know, impression, you know, negative thoughts, Yeah right. And you
and me have talked about this off of the air,
of the various challenges you and I have in trying
to keep our brains going in the right direction. Absolutely,
if it was easy everybody to do it and raise
longer
I'm an honest man, and I'm must admit I didn't
make the full twenty one with no caffeine. I got
to about day twelve and my brain turned into oatmeal,
and uh, I just I don't know, man, that's rough
what I learned. Can I tell you what I learned
real briefly? Yeah, but tell me what you're drinking first.
Everybody's waiting to cheers. I get an empty cup.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh so you're not drinking, you're drinking air.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah. I will drink some air just for you. That'll
You want some?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You want some cola? You drinking from it? No? I
just opened it?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh you did? Yeah, you give you a little cola?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, I got some Zevia cola zevia.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Oh it's clear.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah. Oh it's like clear pepsi. Oh, don't compare it
to that. All right, Cheers to you, cheers. How's it taste?
Tastes like arc cola kind of Oh well that's good.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Definitely take you. Definitely taste the artificial sweetener the yeah, yeah, zeba.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, there's no actual sugar in this. It's supposed to
be healthier for you. It's why it doesn't taste quite
as good anyway, all right, Yeah, we'll get to this
Obama thing because I just want to mention it because
social media today especially is running with this. But first
I want to know what you learned, Tell people what
you were doing. I did a quick fast, a twenty
one day fast to start the new year. It was
(01:07):
it was a fast that you know, just I did
a Bible devotion along with just to kind of enhance
my spiritual life and grow closer in my faith. And
I gave up some things in the fast, and one
of those things was caffeine for twenty one days.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I didn't make the full twenty one didn't. I didn't
make it.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You're fasting off of caffeine, but you also said you
were also fasting off of food.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, I was how that, you know what, I conveniently
haven't brought this up since I first talked about it.
I talked such a big game on that day. I
don't even know what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, this is why I wanted to people to get
an update now that we're past the dates, right, because
I was very open earlier in the show about my
CrossFit workout today. It was my first CrossFit workout in
like over seven years. But the whole point is like,
I'm trying to better myself, right, and there are different
ways to do that, and this was something that you
thought would better yourself, even though I in the moment
(02:00):
was just like who act Like who would choose to
do this themselves? But how did it go?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Was it was good? I mean for its stated purpose.
It absolutely was a benefit to me. And I think
that it was a very good thing, and it's absolutely
something that I'm going to continue to revisit at different times.
There is a great precedent for it that you can
find in the Bible of why people fast and so.
And it certainly was good for me in that sense.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I mean, isn't lanked kind of a kind of a
thing like that?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, you don't give up like food in general, but
you give up some food or you know, certain.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Rights, give up one thing and that was kind of me.
I gave up caffeine. I survived on no caffeine for
about twelve or thirteen days, and boy, I just you know,
with the schedule I keep, and I couldn't do it
for one day, dude. It was it was you know
what The funny thing was the first couple of days
were fine, I thought I was going to be rough
in at the first couple days. I was expecting like
(02:54):
caffeine headaches and everything. I was okay. But for some
weird reason, I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I just had caffeine reserve nerves in my body or
what it was, but it was just something about once
I got about ten days in, I was just like, man,
you're dragging.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I was. I mean, you talk about some brain fog. Goodness, gracious,
I was just like I was forgetting. I mean I
I I would have forgotten myself if I wasn't attached
to it, honestly, Like, I just was dragging. And so
I got back on the sauce. The caffeine.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta take inventory. You know,
you can't. You can't be messing around with your entire
day like that. Yeah, I mean we're not even just
talking about one thing. We're talking about an entire day.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah. What about the food part of it? The food
part of it. I had plans to, uh, to be
a little bit more intense with the food part of it,
and didn't quite do exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
What I intended.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It was.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
What was the what was it was like seven days
of one thing, seven days of another thing in literally.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, the first seven days I was going to do
the one meal a day, which I did. I actually
did that for about two weeks. The the the next
seven days, I was going to do just one meal
a day, but just vegetables. And then the third week
I was just going to actually just do a liquid fast,
which means for seven days you weren't going to eat anything.
That was the plan. Electrolytes. Does that work? Juice? Well,
people do juice cleans and things like that. I mean,
(04:05):
I was gonna try it, but you know what, I
never got there and never did it, so so I
don't know how it works because I never did it.
So there you go. Okay, I didn't do it. I
failed the mission. But you know what I it's it's
the spirit of the intent. My heart was in a
good place and I didn't quite complete my mission. But
the way you were talking is like you're you're getting defensive.
(04:25):
I guess yourself, like, yeah, a little bit, yeah, a
little disappointed in you today, Matt. Coming from me, I
just like to tell you that, Matt Live on the radio,
we're disappointed in you, Matt. No, we're not.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You nobody was making you do this. No, that's the thing.
I was just like, why would someone voluntarily like take
this on? And again, like you said, it did have
its intended you know, work it just you know, you
didn't necessarily meet up with the exact goals that you had, right,
And so again I'm kind of hamming it up a
little bit by being super disappointed in myself. I'm really not,
because it was it was a good thing. I didn't
(04:59):
do it exactly how how I planned it out, but
it was it was a good experience, something I'm going
to return to, and my heart was in a good
place with it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And I think that they're going to do it again.
I think so at some point. I don't know when,
but at some point I will. I will do something
like that and it'll be caffeine. I don't think so.
But but honestly though, like, Okay, it bothers me, would
it bother anyone else? It bothers me that I need that, right,
Like I with the way my life is right now,
if I was in a different place and I just
(05:25):
could different places mentally or physically, it just with with
with my life just generally, I just don't feel like
I just feel like I'm too busy right now to
generally just give up caffeine and be able to ride
that out. Because I really thought i'd get to a
point if you would have told me going in that
the first couple of days would have been easy, but
then I got to about twelve or thirteen and it
was tough. I wouldn't have believed you. I would have thought, no, no, no,
(05:47):
the first they are going to be tough, and then
by twelve or thirteen, my body's gonna be used to
it out of my system. I'll be fine. But it
wasn't that way. I was dragging and then I had to,
you know, get back on the caffeinated monster energy, drank coffee.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know, there's nothing inherently wrong with this in the
modern day, and I just and.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
There's a lot of good there are a lot of
good properties to caffeine. I just think, you know what
it is. It's is just me personally. I don't like
the idea that I'm dependent on something to make it
through my day.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I don't like I don't think you're dependent as much
as is it's an aid to you. And you got
a glimpse of two weeks what it's like to not
have that aid. You're getting it mixed up with like
your AI conversation, right, It's just like you think AI
is just going to go off the rails and it's
completely gonna be responsible for itself and all this stuff. No,
it's only here to help. Caffeine isn't driving you. It's
(06:36):
not really making you do anything. You have to make
all your own decisions of the day, but it's an
aid to allowing you to do that and be happy.
And you know what, it makes people happy.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You know what though, You know what, though, look, I
understand the way you're talking here, but let me tell you,
there was just moments where I realized, man, uncaffeinated Matt
is just not making good life decisions. Like I mean
not that I was like ruining my life without caffeine.
It was just I couldn't think clearly it. I was like, man,
what's going on? I got this brain fog. I just
really I just wasn't on my game. I just wasn't
on my game.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But that's okay because now you know, and all I'm
saying is for people out there that's listening to this
and just like you guys are losers. Just like I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that you you have that unfortunate I'm sorry
that you look at us and we're somehow lesser beings
because this is the kind of thing that people go
through these days to try to test themselves. It's a challenge, right, Yeah,
(07:27):
more than anything, you're just challenging yourself. It's good to
challenge yourself, even if it's something that I would never
have challenged myself on me and you were not the same.
I mean you, I'm gonna do different things in my life.
I did a half marathon. Are you gonna run a
half marathon? I probably have.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Walcked that amount before. I've never ran that amount and
I haven't run in quite a while. I do like
going on long walks, and once I get going again
in the spring in the summer, I'll walk a trail
that basically ends up being a half marathon. So thirteen miles,
Yeah about that, So I will do that. I just
haven't added the running component to it. But well, what
I'm saying is that challenged me. And you know what
I felt like on the other end of that, like
(08:03):
a billion dollars. You know, it sucked getting ready for it.
I wasn't sure how the race would feel. After the
race was over and I knew I'd completed my goal,
you want to know what I felt like.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I felt like a billion dollars. So challenge yourself. You
never know what you are or are not capable of,
and you never know what's actually inside you until you
actually give it a go. And if you're getting off
of work, and this is not a lecture or a
preaching but this is my personal philosophy. If you are
going from your bed to work, to home to the
couch and then back to bed, like and that's kind
(08:35):
of your day, and you're not like mixing it up,
you're not trying to do different things. That kind of
sedentary lifestyle. I mean, there's so much life that you're
leaving on the table there. And if that's the life
and you're happy doing that, congratulations, But just know that
there's a lot more out there for us. And that's
why I like, we talk about so many things that
kind of depress people like myself included. I'll be honest
(08:58):
with you, I feel generally depressed some days after like
some of the difficult conversations that we have. I sit
on the radio for six hours a day. Yeah, four
hours here, two hours on another show in the morning,
And sometimes it wears me out mentally and even physically
sometimes of just like I just want to forget this.
I want a couple hours just to do something else.
So I have a lot of drive to kind of
(09:20):
like wet my palate with other things. But you know,
sometimes if you're doing stuff that you're okay with doing,
I guess you can just not challenge yourself. But I
got to tell you, the challenge is even if I
don't achieve what I want to achieve, the journey makes
me better person on the other end of it, regardless.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I'm right there with you. I can tell you this
time a year, it was perfect timing for me to
do something like that, like a fast because there's just
something about this time of year. People talk about seasonal
affect disorder. It's definitely something that I have struggled with
in the past. And I mean just generally speaking. You
hear all this New Year's Revolution stuff on top of
that as well. Yeah, and there's just something about the
time of year. It's right after Christmas, it's cold outside.
(10:00):
It's just that I feel like that is a time
of year that is just primed for more just difficult times, you.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Know, impression, you know, negative thoughts, Yeah right. And you
and me have talked about this off of the air,
of the various challenges you and I have in trying
to keep our brains going in the right direction. Absolutely,
if it was easy everybody to do it and raise
longer
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