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Men in Women's Sports: Maine Vs America
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Department of Justice. We're going to start with this.
The Department of Justice of the United States has officially
sued the state of Maine suit them. Maine Governor Jana
Mills says, wait a second, you.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Not so fast telling you it's a dangerous thing messing
with Maine. We already discovered that. We talked about it.
You know, if if things got too serious here, if
Maine lenders what are they called mainers.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Who Mainnanites' that's too close to Mennonite. Maybe they want
it like that.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm sure there are Mennonites in Maine, and I wonder
if they call themselves Mainnanites.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
That does not Now now, now you took it to
a place they didn't want to go. Well, as soon
as my computer decides it's going to work, I'll have
an answer for you on that. Yeah, the internet's being
kind of funny. Right now. I'm going to suplex something,
is what's going to end up happening. How do you
suplex something? Well, a vertical suplex in uh wrestling, you know,
you lock their you grab their head and put it

(01:02):
in under your armpit where they're facing down, so they're
bent over and you got like kind of DDT style,
and then you put one of their arms over your
neck and then put your hand on their like waist belt,
and then you lift them up so they're like on
top of you, and then you fall backwards. And what
part of them does that hurt? Their back? Right, They're
gonna be like going into the air and then splatting

(01:23):
onto their back. Or you can German supplex, which is
you grab somebody from behind in the waist and then
you throw them over your head as you fall backwards,
which could you know they could land on their neck
if you do it, you know, incorrectly hurt them for real.
But yeah, I'm just like thinking of grabbing you know,
like suplex in something for real. It looks like may

(01:43):
NERD or may Nerd may Nerd may Nerd like the
lead singer from Tool. Yeah, may Nerd. I don't like that.
Maynor may Nerd Maynord may Nerd. Some people known as
down Easters.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oh yeah, sure, those folks down East. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't trust the down Easters. I think they're kind
of uppity.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Down Easter it doesn't make any sense. They're the northernmost
state in the contiguous United States. They're not down from anything.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
But wouldn't you feel a little more north, a little
more genuine if you were north, in the northernmost state,
Like if you were in North Maine. Now that's true North,
not like those uppity down easters.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Everybody fromains down Easter technically doesn't make any sense down that.
What you just said makes no sense. I didn't say
it had to be logical. This is Maine we're talking about.
They clam chowder out of a bread bowl. Yeah, I
think it's also a Massachusetts thing. It's delicious. I'm not
interested even a little bit. So Pam Bondy had a

(02:44):
big old presser today and maybe a little bit later
I'll play some stuff of this, some of the audio.
But did you actually think it was gonna happen? Did
you think that the United States government was going to,
you know, Attorney General Pambondi taking legal action against the
state of Maine. Did you think that was something that
could happen? I sure as heck didn't. Well, that's not true.

(03:08):
I kind of thought they would. I just didn't know
what that looked like. I don't really, I mean, what
isn't possible in twenty twenty five, I don't know, man,
A lot of people not liking what the Attorney General
Pambondi says to say about the transgender people, which is
all what this is all about. They sued Maine because
they say they violated Title nine. You know what Title
nine is. It's the ninth title Okay, No, I mean,

(03:35):
like really for real, the title nine. Yeah, it's the
thing that h is it just collegiate sports? Yeah, I
mean yes, mostly, but I think it goes for thing,
It goes for any sport, to be honest with you. Yeah,
So let's go ahead, and I'm saying, I got this

(03:55):
audio ready for you, and this is Pam Bondy, who
is going to explain over the course of about a minute,
what exactly her stance is and what the United States
government's stance is on this. Keep in mind, this is
this morning. Maine has had plenty of warning on this.
This has been you know, for weeks the state of Maine.

(04:18):
Janet Mills, they're, you know, the Democrats in charge of
that state have said, we will not comply with what
the White House says on transgender men playing women's sports,
and so in her announcement today of this lawsuit, here
is Attorney General Pam BONDI beat.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Girls in girls' sports, Well, if one young woman is
in jeopardy one, that's enough for us to be.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Standing up here. One.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
No boy will be undressing in a girl's locker room,
no boy will be walking in a woman's restroom, and
no boy, when we're finished with this, will be beating
young girls in sports. These young women have many of
them have trained what since you were in elementary school
for your sport, Riley, When did you start swimming four

(05:06):
years old? They have trained their entire lives. Some of
them have lost scholarships, they have lost regionals, they have
lost state because of boys. I don't care. If it's one,
I don't care. If it's two, I don't care. If
it's one hundred. It's going to stop, and it's going
to stop in every single state.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Tesla, you ask about it, all right, Sorry, she has
taken questions in the middle of that. But boys are bad,
that's all. That's all that sounded like boys are bad.
Of course, in the context of what we're talking about,
this is boys jude biological males who are identifying as females.
There have been democrats like Gavin Newsom recently saying yeah,

(05:45):
this is obviously unfair, and John Fetterman saying, hey, you
know what, common sense, this is why we lose elections
because we just don't see that. You know what people
are seeing. Most Americans are looking at this and they're saying,
this doesn't make any sense. Maine for some reason just
said nah, nah, nay, something only state stuff like this
is happening. But I guess Main's the example we're going

(06:06):
to make. Could you imagine trying to defend this somehow?
How do you defend this against the American government. Well,
Jana Mills, the governor of Maine, has attempted to do so,
and we will tell you what she had to say
coming up on news radio eleven ten kfab em Rie's songer,
I don't know how to put this, but I'm kind
of a big deal on news radio eleven ten kfab.

(06:30):
Not allowed. We told you you couldn't. You're not complying.
You're in violation of Title nine, and I am sueing
you're behind And that's what's happening right now. Well, a
few hours ago, after all this happened this morning, Governor
Janet Mills from the state of mainem Democrat, staunch democrat.
Remember how old she was, and this matters. I will
give you the context. Fifty eight, No, seventy seven, you're

(06:54):
off by almost twenty years. Oh cool, I don't even
know who that is. Seventy seven years old. And I
say this because it's like, what do you like she
has no what does she have to lose here? Her
political future? Like she can go down with the ship
if she wants, right, Yeah, no disrespect. But you know
that's exactly what the political sting about Trump is like,

(07:17):
He's not gonna be around long enough to see what
the all this stuff is doing, right, right? So I
don't know. Well, old Janet sent out this press release.
She didn't go and talk to the press. She sent
out a press release that means I have to read it.
Are you ready for me to read this? Here's what
the announcement said. Uh. And this is in response, of course,

(07:37):
to the alleged Title nine violations. That's according to the
State of Maine. And I quote Rob Jada Mills. Here
we go today is the latest expected salvo in an
unprecedented campaign to pressure the State of Maine to ignore
the Constitution and abandon the rule of law. This matter

(07:58):
has never been about school sports or the protection of
women and girls, as has been claimed. It is about
states' rights in defending the rule of law against a
federal government bent on imposing its will instead of upholding
the law. Federal Judge Woodcock's ruling of last Friday awarding
the state a temporary restraining order reinforces our position that

(08:23):
the federal government has been acting unlawfully. For nearly two months,
Maine has endured recriminations from the federal government that have
targeted hungry school kids, hard working fishermen, senior citizens, new parents,
and countless main people. We have been subject to politically

(08:44):
motivated investigations that opened and closed without discussion, leaving little
doubt that their outcomes were predetermined. Let today serve as
warning to all states. Maine might be among the first
to draw the ire of the federal government in this way,
but we will not be the last. For decades, first

(09:05):
as a district attorney, as Attorney General, and now as governor,
I have fought tirelessly for the rights of women and girls,
for the health and well being of children and families,
and defending the Constitution of Maine and the Constitution of
the United States, My administration and Maine's Attorney General will

(09:26):
vigorously defend our state against the action announced today from
the Department of Justice. As I have said previously, this
is not just about who can compete on the athletic field.
This is about whether a president can force compliance with
his will without regard for the rule of law that
governs our nation. I believe he cannot end quote all right, well,

(09:52):
what do you say about that? Absolutely zero about defending
themselves in what they believe about why there non compliance
is somehow violating the constitution of Maine or the Constitution
of the United States, all about how this is an
overstepping of the federal government on states rights? Is she
missing the point here? Is she being intentionally like she

(10:15):
didn't even mention the problem here, She's just saying, well,
it's not about helping girls on the athletic field. I've
helped a lot of girls. She's also said there's no
more than two transgender athletes actually participating in sports in Maine,
which we have said before. That's not even the point.
The point is about what would happen if something did
occur like that? And I suppose is there anything that
we can do to tell old Janet here that maybe

(10:38):
you need to readjust the way that you talked about this,
because sounded like you didn't really even talk about what
the point was. Well, when you got nothing to debate,
I suppose you change the argument. You have all the answers,
but I start changing the questions. Yeah hmm. Maybe if
the NCAAA wasn't so toothless. Well they were for years,

(10:59):
but now they aren't. As soon as that executive order
came out, they changed the rules. No, but I'm saying,
why does this have to come from the federal government.
Why can't the governing body of collegiate sports grow some chompers?
You know? Well, how would that affect high school sports
though or AAU.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Is there a governing body over all of high school
sports throughout throughout America?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
No, I suppose that's a state by state thing. It is.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well again here, you know what, But I understand she's
pivoting and using an argument that is used commonly among
conservatives who want things to go back to the states.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, but she's not a conservative, that's the thing I know.
Coming from Parlay. Yeah right, well, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
She changed the debating ground to say Hey, this is
actually what I really care about, and it's something that
you care about in other ways, just not here, right.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, this isn't about transgender men playing women's sports. This
is about I have a right to do what I
think is best for my state. And if he's going
to sue me because he doesn't like me and doesn't
like that I'm not compliant with what he's saying about something,
then he's going to do that to you too.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I think any anybody who has any libertarian tendencies, you
have to be honest with yourself and say, well, as
far as how you'd like things to be structured, she
has a point.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Interesting. How do you reconcile with yourself on that?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Though I mostly try not to. I don't do a
whole lot of personal reconciling. Well, it's just like seems
it sounds painful, it sounds like it sounds like a
suplex of the mind. Oh nice, callback, thank you. I
am just thinking though, if you are a hardcore conservative
and you're saying the federal government cannot have overreached to
a point where the state governments are powerless to stand

(12:44):
up to it. If a Democrat was doing this as
president of the United States, wouldn't we kind of have
the same opinion.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
You're kind of right. The more I think about it,
the more it's just like, if she frames the argument
this way, and it's the federal government is suing the
state of Maine, forget about what it's for, the fact
that they think they can do this and control what
we're doing is a slap in the face to every
state in this union, because if you wanted to stand
up to the federal government, no matter who the president was,

(13:13):
this president, that's too close to a word president, is
being set that the federal government just come after you
with litigation until you comply. It'll squeeze your funding out,
harm the economics of your state until you do what
Washington d c. Tells you to do. Sounds like a
pretty powerful government, and that's kind of anti Republican and

(13:34):
anti conservative when you think about it. The states are
supposed to have the autonomy to make those determinations for
themselves in a way, so yes, we can all say
that this makes absolutely no sense that you would allow
transgender men to play women's sports. But in the same breath,
doesn't it kind of make sense that, you know what
actually the states could. It kind of makes sense the

(13:56):
states would have the ability to make these decisions on
their own. I mean, who are we in the breadth
that's gonna tell Maine what to do with their lives.
And if you don't like what's going on in Maine,
then I'm sure New Hampshire will take you, or if
Vermont would take you, or maybe Massachusetts to take you.
Why don't you just move? Well, you don't like it,
get out. That's what we've been saying too, right, pull
a Rosie move to Nova Scotia for all I care.

(14:17):
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moving in Ireland yesterday. That was an easter egg for
the people that were listening in the four o'clock hour
on Tuesday. So what do you say. Let's think about this,
let's have a let's have a melting pot. But before
we open the phones for that conversation, you know what
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(14:37):
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we were talking about were States rights versus Title nine,

(17:03):
essentially women's rights. Have we figured out how we believe
how we feel about this now that she's framed it
as like a constitutional question is states versus the federal government?
Like if we just take out what the argument is,
which we all agree, and we're not even debating whether
or not, like it makes sense that transgender males are
playing female sports, that's not what we're talking about anymore.
As Janet Mills, the governor of Maine, successfully transition this

(17:27):
conversation to a states rights versus federal government, and that's
now what the conversation is versus Title nine transgender rights,
I don't know. I kind of I'm kind of like,
why do I care what Maine does? Why do I care?
Is that weird of me to say isn't that a
main problem?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
And is it even their main problem?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Sorry? Greg says, I would agree with the states rights,
except Maine is taking federal funds for their schools. You
have to follow the rules if you use those funds.
We deal with it with federal funding for roads and
bridges too. We jumped through the Fed scoops to keep
the funding. But Greg, that doesn't explain why the Attorney
General of the United States has sued them. She sued

(18:11):
them because of violation of Title nine. I mean they'rewithholding
the funding. That's a conversation for the legislature in Maine,
isn't it. If the legislature in Maine is like, Okay, fine,
we want your money, then we'll do the dance. But
they didn't do that, And then it was the Maine
didn't sue the federal government for those funds. That's a
different thing. The federal government decided, fine, will sue you

(18:32):
because you're not complying with our executive action. The federal
government made a ruling, you need to abide by it.
It wasn't he they were siphoning the funding. But Maine
didn't sue for that money. Maine just was sitting there
trying to ignore what the federal government was telling it.
Like Johnny in the corner being told to pay attention
and not fall asleep during class, just mine in his

(18:53):
own business. And the teacher said, fine, I'm gonna wage
war on Johnny back there and say you better wake up,
and she, you know, Scotch tapes his eyes open, you know,
like was that necessary? I don't know. According to the
federal government, apparently now it's a different conversation. If Maine
would have sued the federal government though for the money,
that's a different that's a different argument. But the federal

(19:13):
government sued Maine saying they violated Title nine because they
aren't complying with the executive action. Again, if she wanted to,
or if the main legislature just said, you know what,
the money that we're getting from the federal government's too important.
Just do the dance. Do the dance. But they didn't
do the dance, and then the federal government was will

(19:33):
that sued them. I need, I need, I need help
with this one four h two, five, five, eight to
eleven ten to do we should be safe to turn
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four row two five, five A to eleven ten is
the phone number if you'd like to call them to
be a part of the conversation. Have a Doug say so.
In regards to state rights, how is this argument any
different than the argument of gay marriage rights. Granted it
was the Supreme Court, but in all and all, the

(19:53):
federal government decides decided for all states. But the law
would what the law would be? Ah, yeah, I guess
the reason that's a bit different though, is because gay
marriage wasn't really affecting anyone right like that that would
be like the big thing that I would say in

(20:13):
that argument is this, Yeah, you're saying, like who can
or cannot get married? But the Supreme Court didn't restrict
any type of situation in regards to That's tough. That's
a tough one. I'm trying to think how I need
to think about that one, because I like, this one

(20:35):
affects girls. It affects the girls that are participating in sports,
trying to get scholarships, trying to win. That literally didn't
affect anybody. It was just basically saying it was legal
for people who were of the same sex to get married.
And I suppose you know, state by state created those
rules and regulations. It was just the Supreme Court at
the federal level said you cannot prevent people from doing

(20:58):
this legally or discriminate based on that. And I think
that doesn't seem as much of an overreach as it is,
just you know, kind of saying, hey, states can't discriminate
based on this thing. All right, So phone line's blown up.
We'll get to it here in a second, four, two,
five to five, eight to eleven ten. You can also
email Emory at kfab dot com. We'll try the best

(21:19):
we can to try to unpack this, So stick with us.
On news radio eleven ten, Kfab and Marie Sunger in
force a ban on transgender males playing female sports or
biological males identifying as a female playing girls sports, essentially,
and Maine is saying, well, that's not the argument anymore.
The argument is that we're a state and we have rights,

(21:40):
and the federal government is infringing upon our rights by
suing us and forcing us to do what they want
us to do. And now you know that's a big
conservative talking point. Should the states have more rights than
the federal government allows? And that's what I want to debate,
right now four h two, five to five, eight eleven,
ten is the number. Alex. Let's start with Alex on
the phone line. Alex, how you doing today?

Speaker 4 (22:00):
I mean the point is where it is it end
and word does to start? So number one, I mean
I agree with such. Yes, state rights, that's a tense amendment.
But they are also limited to what the government says
is legal. So if you're taking state money, which I
know they're saying is not the issue. Now, if you're
take federal money, you have to buy both those rules. Well.
At the same time, if the Feds hadn't stopped in,

(22:21):
stepped in late earlier, we want to have mixed schools,
we still have black only schools and white only schools.
They stepped in to enforce the civil liberties, the civil
rights side. There's times when the government passes a law
and you have to abide. Bite. Now, if you don't
like it, you sue, you do whatever you have to do. Stop.
But until that happens, you have to follow the law.

(22:42):
You're sworn to follow the law when you take a
state office. And you know Title nine is to protect women, period.
And that's the whole question is what's a woman? I
mean that's what it's about. And I don't want you know,
I've got granddaughters. If a guy follows them in the bathroom,
I'm going then after him and I'm dragging him out.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to allow them to

(23:04):
be in the locker room some guy walks in there
with everything showing it's not right. I mean, if you
want to have a transgendered sports session, have that. Yeah,
if you want to have a family bathroom, have that right.
But don't take one percent of the population or less
than that and say, oh, by the way, now you
have to abide by everything that we want you to
do because we think so.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Now again, Yeah, yeah, Alex, I got other calls coming in.
I guess I just want to follow up real quick.
So you're saying this is an important enough deal where
it's not about the state's rights shouldn't matter at this point,
it's like.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
The civil rights issue, Okay, all right, you got to
protect people. Thanks for buch.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, appreciated, Alex. Doug's on a phone line four two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten. What do you think, Doug?

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Yeah, this is and then I'm going to bring it up.
Do you remember when the speed by you, thay not
speeding them. I got set to fifty five by the
federal government. You understand this is litigated. You lost your
money if you do not do what they said in
that case, because you can make a stricter law, but
you can't make a looser law me. Just because if

(24:06):
federal grub says the speed limble will be fifty no
more than fifty five, and you have to apply by that.
You can say no, in my state it can only
be fifty. You can do that. You cannot say it
will be sixty. You lose your money. Interesting, and this
has been litigated, So why were we even going here.
States do have rights, but they cannot take a federal

(24:30):
law and loosen it up. Interesting, they can only make
it more strict.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I hear that, Doug. I appreciate the thoughts today. Thanks
for listening.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Welcome.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, Bray is on a phone line. Let's keep rolling
through these phone calls. Bray, what do you think about this?

Speaker 6 (24:44):
Well? I agree with him, and I was going to
say the same thing. Title nine is the federal law.
But how it came about was kind of interesting because
they passed out when I was in high school and
I Remember there were only two sports that women could
go out for, whereas you know, men had football, basketball, baseball,

(25:04):
on and on, and they had special equipment, they had
weight training. We never had any of that. So Title
nine was supposed to give more opportunities to women. You
couldn't discriminate on the basis of uh sex or maybe
it says gender. But I think that this is going
to go to the Supreme Court because they're the ones
who are going to have to answer the question about.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Transition, right, and what is a woman?

Speaker 6 (25:32):
Well, unless you're born a hermaphrodite, you are not two
sexes at the same time. So people who want to
call themselves a man on Monday, a woman on Tuesday,
and on and on, they're going to have to decide that.
And so as far as I'm concerned, you know, if
somebody still has a junk they're born with, then they're

(25:55):
still that.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
It's a good way to put it, braight. Hey, I
want to try to he's another call, and before I
get to the top, I appreciate the time. Thanks so
much for the call. Yeah, I think we all are
kind of in agreement on the title line part of
this thing. It's just whether or not a lawsuit against
the state. The federal government suing a state over this
is something that we would consider an overreach. I think,
is you know, a more compelling discussion for me, because

(26:18):
I think we're all on the same page about the
title nine aspect of this. Kim is on the phone line, Kim,
thanks for calling in. What do you think?

Speaker 5 (26:25):
I just wanted to say, what's the matter with Maine
that they don't want to protect women and girls?

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I mean, I mean, it's a I guess it's a
question for Janet Mills. I don't exactly know the answer
to that question either, But Kim, they're not even gonna
answer that. They're saying, we have we do protect them,
but we also are trying to protect the two or
three transgender people who are considering themselves girls trying to
play high school girls sports. And that's the that's the

(26:51):
real crux of this argument. I suppose, right well.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
They should have a separate category for them because they're
different than biological girl.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
That is one hundred percent true, and we're seeing you
see the results. I mean, it's it's it's unfair. I mean,
if it was a substance issue, those people would be banned.
Easily appreciate the call, Kemp, thanks for listening to us.
Arnie said, Main can turn down the funds if they wish,
But Title nine's a violation of the women's civil rights.
That's fair, Rob said an email, and said to its
tenth Amendment pretty clear about things that are up to

(27:22):
the states, not already taken by the federal government. But
if Main thinks that is right or wrong, Title nine
is still a federal manner matter, and that's also true.
This is a fun and interesting discussion as it kind
of weaves in and out of Title nine and also
states rights versus the federal government. If you've got some
thoughts on it, call us at four oh two five
five eight eleven ten. Four oh two five five eight
eleven ten. You can also email me Emory at kfab

(27:45):
dot com as we discuss a very complex issue and
one that's a lot more fun than that's happening to
somebody else and not us here on news Radio eleven
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