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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One thing that is very difficult to understand in different
ways has been the rise of Zoran mom donnie, who
is the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City.
He was a late riser as far as the mayor
oral primary went. Everybody thought Andrew Cuomo, who was the
former governor of New York who was running for New
(00:21):
York City mayor, he was going to be the guy
that gets it. That did not happen. It was he
was projected to get it until the very last minute,
and then all of a sudden, polymarket and all these
other places are like, look out, the polling actually shows
Zori mam donni has made up a ton of ground
here over the last couple of weeks, and then he
ends up winning the primary. And because New York City
(00:43):
is as blue as it is, a Republican has no
chance to win that race, at least not right now. Well,
zorimm Donnie, who says, you know, he's getting a bigger platform.
People are trolling him. Some Democrats haven't actually spoke out
in favor of what he is or what he does,
and haven't truly endorsed him. Well, he was on the
(01:06):
view talking to the Fine ladies who are at all
not biased at all.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That was a joke.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I know that they're very biased, but it was kind
of like more of a low key conversation with people
who are just sitting around a table, instid of feeling
like there was some level of journalism being going on here.
So I got a few different clips I want to
play for you. Here. Here is Zora Mundani talking about
Donald Trump's attacks on him as a candidate and saying
(01:32):
that he's a communist.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Let's quickly tick through all the things that Trump said
about him about you. I'm let's get that out of
the way right number one. He's attacking you as a communist,
are you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
No, I'm a democratic socialist. That means I believe in
dignity for all people.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Worthy of a pause.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You're not a communist? I agree with that. No, I'm
not a communist. And I think you know, a lot
of New Yorkers have asked me, what does it mean
that you're a democratic social Yes, and I tell them
to think about the words of doctor King from decades ago.
He said, call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.
There has to be a better distribution of wealth for
all of God's children in this country, and that's that's
the heart.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Of Okay, so you're like sort of like a Scandinavian
type of politician.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I would say, right, a.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Little more brown.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
But yes, okay, he's rooting for your opponent, Andrew Cromo.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You know, he is looking to clear the field for
Andrew Cuomo because he knows that Andrew Cuomo would clear
the field for Trump's agenda. This is speaking about a
former governor who, when he looked at the deployment of
the National Guard in California, told New Yorkers don't overreact.
This is a moment where we have to address the
administration for what it is, which is authoritarian. It's going
to require us to do everything in our power to
(02:41):
fight back, not to coordinate like Andrew Cuomo's done being
on the phone with Donald Trump, or collaborate like Eric
Adams is done by welcoming ice into the city.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
We have asked Andrew Cloma to come on the show.
Let's see if he comes on so he can respond
to you.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Number three, he says that he'll withhold this really is
something he's Trump says that he will withhold federal funding
for New York City if you win?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Can he do that? Number one?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And my question is.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
That going to stop people from voting for you?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know, this is just one of the many threats
that Donald Trump makes. Every day he wakes up, he
makes another threat a lot of the times about the
city that he actually comes from. And what is angering
to me is not what Donald Trump does, because we've
come to expect that from him, But it's the idea
that we have to accept that as the law, the
idea that we have to accept that as normal. We
have to fight that because we know not only is
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it an overreach from a federal administration, it's an example
of what he's done elsewhere. You know, in California he's
spoken about withholding federal funding. The Attorney general there has
estimated that for every dollar they spend in legal fees,
they've won more than thirty thousand back in funds they
would have lost. I'm proud and lucky to say that
here in New York we have an incredible Attorney General,
Tis James, who's been on the front lines of that
(03:52):
same threst.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Nobody knows that tamporing.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
When you threaten somebody and say if you vote for them,
this person, and that I think voter.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
It's the thing that he says that everybody does. Now
he's doing it.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, I'm just saying, okay, familiar with here's my last one.
He wants to cities like New York as military training grounds.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Can you stop him?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He wants to do a whole lot of things with
the city, and we're going to fight him every step
of the way as long as it is something that
comes at the expense of this city. And what I
mean by that is that if Donald Trump picks up
the phone and he says, you know what, I finally
want to deliver on cheaper groceries that I campaigned on,
I'll say, absolutely, let's work together.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Well, well, when does that happen?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
When that's not happening anytime soon, because all the things
that he calls mayors in this city or former governors
about is about his own interests, and we deserve a
mayor who will look to the people of the city
and see, that's who I'm accountable to, not look to
the White House and ask for permission.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right, So there's one clip about zoron mom Donnie
talking about what Donald Trump has said to him on
the view. I got the next one here coming up.
It is Zoron, who is a Muslim practicing Muslim, which,
again we can say how uncomfortable. Maybe it makes us
(05:11):
that there's so many Muslim people getting into politics and
trying to control different cities, different areas. Look at Dearborn,
Michigan and there are fifty five percent of the people
in Dearborn, Michigan are now identifying as Muslim things of
that nature. You know, it's still freedom of religion here
in the United States of America, so I'd be cautious
to talk about this in a way that could violate
(05:31):
the Constitution. However, you know, we have this Israeli war
and Hamas, who of course is saying they're fighting on
behalf of the Palestinian people. But it really is just
a Shariah law kind of situation where you're battling ideologies,
you're battling religion. Where does Zoron fall as far as
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the Israeli war goes?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Women, you're running for mayor of New York and not
primary minister of Israel, but you've made inflammatory statements like
calling Israel in apartheid state and questioning its right to
exist as a Jewish state. Just this week, you were
evasive with a reporter about condemning Hamas. Given New York
has the largest Jewish population outside of Israel. Why should
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voters who see this as a moral red line trust
your clarity and judgment.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, I really appreciate this question and an opportunity to
just clear up. I think a number of misconceptions. You know,
first and foremost, You're right, I am running to be
the mayor of the city, and this city will be
the focus of my administration, ensuring that we make this
city everyone can afford and everyone knows that they belong to.
And also millions of New Yorkers, myself included, care deeply
about what's happening in Israel and Palestine, and so to
(06:45):
be very very clear, of course I condemn Hamas. Of
course I have called October seventh what it was, which
is a horrific war crime. And of course my belief
in a universality and international law is also the same
set of beliefs that have led me to describe what's
happening in Gaza as a genocide because what we see, Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, let's clad because he called what happens to go
out to jail.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
We see is.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
A war crime being answered with war crimes. And what
we see is every single hour of the Israeli military
killing a Palestinian child for close to two years. And
it's a horror that many New Yorkers feel so deeply.
And my job, I can't stop that. As the mayor
of the city, I can make clear my own values,
my own commitments, and it is a value and a
(07:29):
commitment to humanity, to safety, to justice for all people
that extends to everyone Israeli's Palestinians and everyone else across.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And recognizing that people do disagree with you. I am
one of those people on some of these points.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Absolutely, and that you're disagreeing with me doesn't mean that
you shouldn't be in the city or you shouldn't be
celebrated in part of the city that I'm trying to lead.
And I think that's the other part of growing up
as a New Yorker, learning that disagreement and difference is
part of what it means to be here. And I
want to be a mayor not just for the people
who voted for not just for the people who agree
with me, but every New Yorker, and that means that
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if a New Yorker disagrees with me about Israel, I'm
still fighting for them to make sure that they can
afford the city, be safe in this city, and see
the city as their home.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
So it's a good question coming there. And you know,
I don't think that if we're talking about this from
a perspective of Okay, so who is Zorn Mom Donnie
really about? You know, when it comes to stuff like this,
he's kind of playing both sides of the same coin there.
(08:35):
I don't think he's being false in the way that
he says that, though I think he probably does think
what Amas did on October seventh is a war crime,
but he's able to utilize his words in a way
that basically says, by the way everything Israel has done
since then, it's also a war crime. Back and forth. Again,
(08:56):
he's not running for president of the United States, still
have absolutely no hand in anything like this, but just
based solely on the fact that you know, he's got this,
you know, viewpoint with a bunch of Jewish people who
are living in New York, That in and of itself
to me is you know, it's interesting. I would hope
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that if there were people out there who care deeply
about the type of person that they have brought as
mayor of the City of New York, they would be
willing to understand what his background on some of this
stuff is, even if it isn't something he can actually control.
And that was Elizabeth hasselback by the way, who was
(09:38):
talking and asked that good question on the View. We
are talking about the conversation that Zoronmmdanni had today on
the View with the fine fine ladies of the View. Gosh, anyway,
I got a couple more clips here that I wanted
to play. The next one is about police. Yes, and
(10:01):
when he zoraon mom Donnie, who's you know, he's about
to be the mayor of New York. He's going to
get elected pretty easily, I think in November. So this
conversation about police is going to be a big deal
because we talk about New York PD and how big
of a deal it is to work there, new York's finest. Well,
(10:22):
here is his reaction to him trying to walk back
some of his statements when.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
He was younger, back in twenty twenty, you called for
defunding the police, something you've since walked back. You also
called the NYPD racist, anti queer in a threat to
public safety in twenty twenty, but now agree they deserve
an apology. You initially refused to denounce highly charged rhetoric
related to Israel, then later said you would discourage its use.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
How can New Yorkers trust.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
You and not not be concerned that consultants are getting
in your ear to get you elected, but you still
hold all of those positions.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, they can rest assured that it isn't consultants in
my ear. And I think this is another part of
to be a young person looking to lead is also
to leave the opening for growth and understanding. And I
can tell you growing up in this city, I thought
often about safety and justice, and I saw how justice
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was often left aside, whether it was the Central Park five,
whether it was Sean Bell, whether it was Eric Garner,
whether it was watching the news of Michael Brown, And
then in twenty twenty to see the murder of George Floyd,
it felt as if there had never been a wider
chasm in my life between those things, and after that,
becoming an assembly member and learning about the ways in
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which you deliver justice is by intertwining it with safety
can't be done alone, and learning that behind the headlines,
behind the caricatures, were speaking about police officers who are
just trying to do their best. And my job as
a mayor is to represent those officers who put their
lives on the line, represent Muslim New Yorkers who are
illegally surveiled, represent black and brown New Yorkers who've been
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the victims of police brutality, and do all of it
where they're commitment. Absolutely, this is a lot on sentence
that includes every New Yorker because of the fact that
safety and justice can be non negotiable no matter who
we're speaking about.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
And can I ask, have you formally apologized to the NYPD?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
These are conversations that I'm having individually with officers, and
I've appreciated that because it's through those conversations with rank
and file officers that I've learned more about the difficulties
of this job, the difficulties where you know, for example,
when I started running this race, about two hundred officers
we're leaving the department every month.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now it's three point fifty.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
When you ask officers why, they'll tell you forced overtime,
and they'll what they mean by that is, you know,
you got three days off at the end of the week,
you're planning a trip with your family, and at the
last minute you're told second day you got to be back.
And part of the reason you got to be back
is because we're asking cops to do everything we can
think of. We're asking them to handle mental health calls,
we're asking them to deal with homelessness. Every year now,
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cops respond to two hundred thousand mental health calls. So
our proposal is allow the officers to do their job
of tackling serious crime and create a department of Community
Safety that deals with homelessness, that deals with mental health crisis,
so that we don't have response times like we do today,
which are closer to sixteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, there you go. That is zornmm donnie talking about
his relationship with police. Can we believe that he's actually
grown on this? That's interesting. I have time for one
more here. Let's squeeze this last one in how about
why certain Democrats have been very slow to say yes?
Zoron mom Donnie is the kind of guy that we
need to be leading the way for the next generation
(13:32):
of Democrats. Being the mayor of New York is a
big deal. Here's what he said when they asked him
about that.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Become the new poster child in some ways for the GOP.
Donald Trump's obviously excited for you to be in the race.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Even members of.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Your own party, like Leader Schumer and Hikeem Jefferies, both
New Yorkers, have been reluctant to endorse you. Kamala Harris
gave what I would call sort of a tapid endorsement.
Why do you think members of your own party have
been hesitant to embrace you at this jump?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
The Governor of New.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
York though, or she did. And what I would say
is that Donald Trump is going through the stages of grief.
First it was denial, and he was trying to do
everything he could. He was looking at polling, he was
calling Cuomo, he was publicly speaking about how I wanted
to narrow this race. And he's gotten his first wish,
he's gotten Eric Adams out of this race. But now
he's going through acceptance. And what I've been really excited
(14:20):
by is the endorsements, like you said, Sonny, from not
only Governor hokel not only from majority leader of the
state sener Andrea Stewart Cousins, Assembly Speaker Carl Hasty, Attorney
General Tis James that we were just speaking about, but
also the fact that I wouldn't be sitting here with
you if it was endorsements that made all the difference.
It was the people of this city.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
But Chuck Schumer and hackem Jeffreys are trying to win
the midterms, win back the House and the Senate for Democrats.
So why specifically do you think they're hesitant to endorse you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You know, I can't speak to their thoughts and their
interests in this. What I can tell you, however, is
that what we have built in this city is also
an indication of what politics can be. You know, oftentimes
after the November general election, we heard that young people
were leaving the Democratic Party, they were getting disinterested in politics,
and we built a campaign where we said, what if
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we treated them with respect and not condescension, what if
we asked them what they needed in the city. We
made the top three highest performing age groups all under
the age of thirty five. That's something that we haven't
seen in the city before. That needs to be at
the heart of our politics across the country.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So there is a Zoramandani. It's interesting to get into
his brain about things because it's so easy for us
when we don't actually listen to what he has to say,
like oh, yeah he's a communist. Yeah yeah, he didn't
care about anything, he doesn't agree with anything like a
You know, it's important to listen to what he has
to say. I would be interested once he gets elected
what this is going to look like in New York, though,
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because how are you going to make, you know, groceries cheaper.
We've talked about this. David Dinkins in the early nineties
was a Democratic socialist who was the elected mayor of
New York and that went just about as well as
you could imagine for the Republicans because that paved the
way for Rudy Giuliani to I'm in there and take
that office in Republicans held onto it for a while,
so I don't know, we'll see what happens next.
One thing that is very difficult to understand in different
ways has been the rise of Zoran mom donnie, who
is the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City.
He was a late riser as far as the mayor
oral primary went. Everybody thought Andrew Cuomo, who was the
former governor of New York who was running for New
(00:21):
York City mayor, he was going to be the guy
that gets it. That did not happen. It was he
was projected to get it until the very last minute,
and then all of a sudden, polymarket and all these
other places are like, look out, the polling actually shows
Zori mam donni has made up a ton of ground
here over the last couple of weeks, and then he
ends up winning the primary. And because New York City
(00:43):
is as blue as it is, a Republican has no
chance to win that race, at least not right now. Well,
zorimm Donnie, who says, you know, he's getting a bigger platform.
People are trolling him. Some Democrats haven't actually spoke out
in favor of what he is or what he does,
and haven't truly endorsed him. Well, he was on the
(01:06):
view talking to the Fine ladies who are at all
not biased at all.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That was a joke.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I know that they're very biased, but it was kind
of like more of a low key conversation with people
who are just sitting around a table, instid of feeling
like there was some level of journalism being going on here.
So I got a few different clips I want to
play for you. Here. Here is Zora Mundani talking about
Donald Trump's attacks on him as a candidate and saying
(01:32):
that he's a communist.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Let's quickly tick through all the things that Trump said
about him about you. I'm let's get that out of
the way right number one. He's attacking you as a communist,
are you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
No, I'm a democratic socialist. That means I believe in
dignity for all people.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Worthy of a pause.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You're not a communist? I agree with that. No, I'm
not a communist. And I think you know, a lot
of New Yorkers have asked me, what does it mean
that you're a democratic social Yes, and I tell them
to think about the words of doctor King from decades ago.
He said, call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.
There has to be a better distribution of wealth for
all of God's children in this country, and that's that's
the heart.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Of Okay, so you're like sort of like a Scandinavian
type of politician.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I would say, right, a.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Little more brown.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
But yes, okay, he's rooting for your opponent, Andrew Cromo.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You know, he is looking to clear the field for
Andrew Cuomo because he knows that Andrew Cuomo would clear
the field for Trump's agenda. This is speaking about a
former governor who, when he looked at the deployment of
the National Guard in California, told New Yorkers don't overreact.
This is a moment where we have to address the
administration for what it is, which is authoritarian. It's going
to require us to do everything in our power to
(02:41):
fight back, not to coordinate like Andrew Cuomo's done being
on the phone with Donald Trump, or collaborate like Eric
Adams is done by welcoming ice into the city.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
We have asked Andrew Cloma to come on the show.
Let's see if he comes on so he can respond
to you.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Number three, he says that he'll withhold this really is
something he's Trump says that he will withhold federal funding
for New York City if you win?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Can he do that? Number one?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And my question is.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
That going to stop people from voting for you?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know, this is just one of the many threats
that Donald Trump makes. Every day he wakes up, he
makes another threat a lot of the times about the
city that he actually comes from. And what is angering
to me is not what Donald Trump does, because we've
come to expect that from him, But it's the idea
that we have to accept that as the law, the
idea that we have to accept that as normal. We
have to fight that because we know not only is
(03:31):
it an overreach from a federal administration, it's an example
of what he's done elsewhere. You know, in California he's
spoken about withholding federal funding. The Attorney general there has
estimated that for every dollar they spend in legal fees,
they've won more than thirty thousand back in funds they
would have lost. I'm proud and lucky to say that
here in New York we have an incredible Attorney General,
Tis James, who's been on the front lines of that
(03:52):
same threst.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Nobody knows that tamporing.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
When you threaten somebody and say if you vote for them,
this person, and that I think voter.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
It's the thing that he says that everybody does. Now
he's doing it.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, I'm just saying, okay, familiar with here's my last one.
He wants to cities like New York as military training grounds.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Can you stop him?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He wants to do a whole lot of things with
the city, and we're going to fight him every step
of the way as long as it is something that
comes at the expense of this city. And what I
mean by that is that if Donald Trump picks up
the phone and he says, you know what, I finally
want to deliver on cheaper groceries that I campaigned on,
I'll say, absolutely, let's work together.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Well, well, when does that happen?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
When that's not happening anytime soon, because all the things
that he calls mayors in this city or former governors
about is about his own interests, and we deserve a
mayor who will look to the people of the city
and see, that's who I'm accountable to, not look to
the White House and ask for permission.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right, So there's one clip about zoron mom Donnie
talking about what Donald Trump has said to him on
the view. I got the next one here coming up.
It is Zoron, who is a Muslim practicing Muslim, which,
again we can say how uncomfortable. Maybe it makes us
(05:11):
that there's so many Muslim people getting into politics and
trying to control different cities, different areas. Look at Dearborn,
Michigan and there are fifty five percent of the people
in Dearborn, Michigan are now identifying as Muslim things of
that nature. You know, it's still freedom of religion here
in the United States of America, so I'd be cautious
to talk about this in a way that could violate
(05:31):
the Constitution. However, you know, we have this Israeli war
and Hamas, who of course is saying they're fighting on
behalf of the Palestinian people. But it really is just
a Shariah law kind of situation where you're battling ideologies,
you're battling religion. Where does Zoron fall as far as
(05:53):
the Israeli war goes?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Women, you're running for mayor of New York and not
primary minister of Israel, but you've made inflammatory statements like
calling Israel in apartheid state and questioning its right to
exist as a Jewish state. Just this week, you were
evasive with a reporter about condemning Hamas. Given New York
has the largest Jewish population outside of Israel. Why should
(06:17):
voters who see this as a moral red line trust
your clarity and judgment.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, I really appreciate this question and an opportunity to
just clear up. I think a number of misconceptions. You know,
first and foremost, You're right, I am running to be
the mayor of the city, and this city will be
the focus of my administration, ensuring that we make this
city everyone can afford and everyone knows that they belong to.
And also millions of New Yorkers, myself included, care deeply
about what's happening in Israel and Palestine, and so to
(06:45):
be very very clear, of course I condemn Hamas. Of
course I have called October seventh what it was, which
is a horrific war crime. And of course my belief
in a universality and international law is also the same
set of beliefs that have led me to describe what's
happening in Gaza as a genocide because what we see, Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, let's clad because he called what happens to go
out to jail.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
We see is.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
A war crime being answered with war crimes. And what
we see is every single hour of the Israeli military
killing a Palestinian child for close to two years. And
it's a horror that many New Yorkers feel so deeply.
And my job, I can't stop that. As the mayor
of the city, I can make clear my own values,
my own commitments, and it is a value and a
(07:29):
commitment to humanity, to safety, to justice for all people
that extends to everyone Israeli's Palestinians and everyone else across.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And recognizing that people do disagree with you. I am
one of those people on some of these points.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Absolutely, and that you're disagreeing with me doesn't mean that
you shouldn't be in the city or you shouldn't be
celebrated in part of the city that I'm trying to lead.
And I think that's the other part of growing up
as a New Yorker, learning that disagreement and difference is
part of what it means to be here. And I
want to be a mayor not just for the people
who voted for not just for the people who agree
with me, but every New Yorker, and that means that
(08:04):
if a New Yorker disagrees with me about Israel, I'm
still fighting for them to make sure that they can
afford the city, be safe in this city, and see
the city as their home.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
So it's a good question coming there. And you know,
I don't think that if we're talking about this from
a perspective of Okay, so who is Zorn Mom Donnie
really about? You know, when it comes to stuff like this,
he's kind of playing both sides of the same coin there.
(08:35):
I don't think he's being false in the way that
he says that, though I think he probably does think
what Amas did on October seventh is a war crime,
but he's able to utilize his words in a way
that basically says, by the way everything Israel has done
since then, it's also a war crime. Back and forth. Again,
(08:56):
he's not running for president of the United States, still
have absolutely no hand in anything like this, but just
based solely on the fact that you know, he's got this,
you know, viewpoint with a bunch of Jewish people who
are living in New York, That in and of itself
to me is you know, it's interesting. I would hope
(09:16):
that if there were people out there who care deeply
about the type of person that they have brought as
mayor of the City of New York, they would be
willing to understand what his background on some of this
stuff is, even if it isn't something he can actually control.
And that was Elizabeth hasselback by the way, who was
(09:38):
talking and asked that good question on the View. We
are talking about the conversation that Zoronmmdanni had today on
the View with the fine fine ladies of the View. Gosh, anyway,
I got a couple more clips here that I wanted
to play. The next one is about police. Yes, and
(10:01):
when he zoraon mom Donnie, who's you know, he's about
to be the mayor of New York. He's going to
get elected pretty easily, I think in November. So this
conversation about police is going to be a big deal
because we talk about New York PD and how big
of a deal it is to work there, new York's finest. Well,
(10:22):
here is his reaction to him trying to walk back
some of his statements when.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
He was younger, back in twenty twenty, you called for
defunding the police, something you've since walked back. You also
called the NYPD racist, anti queer in a threat to
public safety in twenty twenty, but now agree they deserve
an apology. You initially refused to denounce highly charged rhetoric
related to Israel, then later said you would discourage its use.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
How can New Yorkers trust.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
You and not not be concerned that consultants are getting
in your ear to get you elected, but you still
hold all of those positions.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, they can rest assured that it isn't consultants in
my ear. And I think this is another part of
to be a young person looking to lead is also
to leave the opening for growth and understanding. And I
can tell you growing up in this city, I thought
often about safety and justice, and I saw how justice
(11:15):
was often left aside, whether it was the Central Park five,
whether it was Sean Bell, whether it was Eric Garner,
whether it was watching the news of Michael Brown, And
then in twenty twenty to see the murder of George Floyd,
it felt as if there had never been a wider
chasm in my life between those things, and after that,
becoming an assembly member and learning about the ways in
(11:39):
which you deliver justice is by intertwining it with safety
can't be done alone, and learning that behind the headlines,
behind the caricatures, were speaking about police officers who are
just trying to do their best. And my job as
a mayor is to represent those officers who put their
lives on the line, represent Muslim New Yorkers who are
illegally surveiled, represent black and brown New Yorkers who've been
(12:00):
the victims of police brutality, and do all of it
where they're commitment. Absolutely, this is a lot on sentence
that includes every New Yorker because of the fact that
safety and justice can be non negotiable no matter who
we're speaking about.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
And can I ask, have you formally apologized to the NYPD?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
These are conversations that I'm having individually with officers, and
I've appreciated that because it's through those conversations with rank
and file officers that I've learned more about the difficulties
of this job, the difficulties where you know, for example,
when I started running this race, about two hundred officers
we're leaving the department every month.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now it's three point fifty.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
When you ask officers why, they'll tell you forced overtime,
and they'll what they mean by that is, you know,
you got three days off at the end of the week,
you're planning a trip with your family, and at the
last minute you're told second day you got to be back.
And part of the reason you got to be back
is because we're asking cops to do everything we can
think of. We're asking them to handle mental health calls,
we're asking them to deal with homelessness. Every year now,
(12:55):
cops respond to two hundred thousand mental health calls. So
our proposal is allow the officers to do their job
of tackling serious crime and create a department of Community
Safety that deals with homelessness, that deals with mental health crisis,
so that we don't have response times like we do today,
which are closer to sixteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, there you go. That is zornmm donnie talking about
his relationship with police. Can we believe that he's actually
grown on this? That's interesting. I have time for one
more here. Let's squeeze this last one in how about
why certain Democrats have been very slow to say yes?
Zoron mom Donnie is the kind of guy that we
need to be leading the way for the next generation
(13:32):
of Democrats. Being the mayor of New York is a
big deal. Here's what he said when they asked him
about that.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Become the new poster child in some ways for the GOP.
Donald Trump's obviously excited for you to be in the race.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Even members of.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Your own party, like Leader Schumer and Hikeem Jefferies, both
New Yorkers, have been reluctant to endorse you. Kamala Harris
gave what I would call sort of a tapid endorsement.
Why do you think members of your own party have
been hesitant to embrace you at this jump?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
The Governor of New.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
York though, or she did. And what I would say
is that Donald Trump is going through the stages of grief.
First it was denial, and he was trying to do
everything he could. He was looking at polling, he was
calling Cuomo, he was publicly speaking about how I wanted
to narrow this race. And he's gotten his first wish,
he's gotten Eric Adams out of this race. But now
he's going through acceptance. And what I've been really excited
(14:20):
by is the endorsements, like you said, Sonny, from not
only Governor hokel not only from majority leader of the
state sener Andrea Stewart Cousins, Assembly Speaker Carl Hasty, Attorney
General Tis James that we were just speaking about, but
also the fact that I wouldn't be sitting here with
you if it was endorsements that made all the difference.
It was the people of this city.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
But Chuck Schumer and hackem Jeffreys are trying to win
the midterms, win back the House and the Senate for Democrats.
So why specifically do you think they're hesitant to endorse you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You know, I can't speak to their thoughts and their
interests in this. What I can tell you, however, is
that what we have built in this city is also
an indication of what politics can be. You know, oftentimes
after the November general election, we heard that young people
were leaving the Democratic Party, they were getting disinterested in politics,
and we built a campaign where we said, what if
(15:08):
we treated them with respect and not condescension, what if
we asked them what they needed in the city. We
made the top three highest performing age groups all under
the age of thirty five. That's something that we haven't
seen in the city before. That needs to be at
the heart of our politics across the country.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So there is a Zoramandani. It's interesting to get into
his brain about things because it's so easy for us
when we don't actually listen to what he has to say,
like oh, yeah he's a communist. Yeah yeah, he didn't
care about anything, he doesn't agree with anything like a
You know, it's important to listen to what he has
to say. I would be interested once he gets elected
what this is going to look like in New York, though,
(15:44):
because how are you going to make, you know, groceries cheaper.
We've talked about this. David Dinkins in the early nineties
was a Democratic socialist who was the elected mayor of
New York and that went just about as well as
you could imagine for the Republicans because that paved the
way for Rudy Giuliani to I'm in there and take
that office in Republicans held onto it for a while,
so I don't know, we'll see what happens next.
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