No Kings Protest Discussion

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I looked at the big news over the weekend, and
while you know, I was kind of licking my wounds,
if you will, as far as the Nebraska game goes
on Saturday, watching other college football had the Greyhound event
that we were having a great time.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
With the dogs.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
And my wife has gone all day on Saturday, so
you know that you know what that means. It's Emory
sits around and watch football all day on the schedule.
And I couldn't help but notice, you know, like, and
I got my phone in my hand, I'm scrolling social
media and stuff, and you know, I follow enough people
that are in the news and they're in political chatter
and talk, and I couldn't help but notice these no

(00:36):
King's protests, which I was aware were happening, and we
kind of mentioned it flippantly last week, and I just
got to be completely.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Honest with you.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I I rolled my eyes at it, but I rolled
my eyes at it is I just don't know what
we're achieving and what we're accomplishing.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I want to preface whatever the conversation is, and the
phone lines are open if you'd like to talk about
the no Kings protests. Four oh two, five five eight
eleven ten is the number four oh two five five,
eight eleven ten. But I look at it in a
few different ways. Number One, they have a cool name
for these protests. This is the second one of them.

(01:17):
The first one of them was what in June, the
rite it basically as the College World Series was starting here.
I think that was the first week in the College
World Series. So you had a big one in June,
and now they rescheduled when four months set down the line.
The name's cool, sure, you know what, I'll give it
to them, And that's why you're going to see more

(01:39):
of them, because they're like, oh yeah, well this is
catching on, so all these people protesting all over the country.
I want to make it clear that I'm not opposing protest.
If people want to protest, If people have something on
their mind that they feel strongly enough about that they
want to put out good energy into the universe and
make themselves feel good doing it, totally fine by me.

(02:00):
I am not the kind of person to do that.
I was kind of thinking today, what would get me
off my couch or off of a trail and away
from my dogs on a beautiful mid October Saturday and
go and protest, and I was thinking to myself, like, man,
it would have to be something kind of crazy, and

(02:21):
I don't even really know what it is. Still I
was thinking like Orcus, like like like concert conservation of Orcus.
Even then it's like, how much power do I have

(02:41):
to do that from here? If I really wanted to
make a difference, So I need to go somewhere else
kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
But I'm not opposed to protest for whatever it's worth.
So my second reaction was a bit more I think,
probably grounded than that was. Okay, So if these people
did want to do this, if they did want to
go out into their communities of any given size. There
are some No King's protests that had a few people.

(03:10):
There were some that had a few thousand people. There
were some that had tens or hundreds of thousands of
people in some of these bigger cities, and good for them.
I'm just wondering what exactly are we protesting, because if
you think about it, these are the same people that
are protesting Israel. They're pro Palestinian, anti Israel. They also

(03:36):
are anti Ice, so they've been protesting actively against Ice
and immigration enforcement. I'm sure there's something else that's going
to pop up here. You know, these are the same
people that were protesting against police brutality five years ago.
So it just kind of depends on what everybody's protesting.

(03:57):
And these are the same people that are going to
go out of their way and say, Hey, yeah, that's me,
I'm protesting. Look at how fun I'm making it. And
I don't know what else they got going on in
their life. I don't know if they don't have hobbies.
I don't I couldn't tell you because I'm not there.
But what I can tell you is that I am
somewhat bamboozled by the fact that the party that is

(04:20):
creating all these protests, all these people that are regularly
showing up and they're standing at the capital, or they're
standing at a courthouse, they're standing on these busy street corners,
or they're at these big public parks, and they're holding
up these signs and they're making all these like there's
the one viral lady that's apparently like a teacher. I
can't even remember where it was, there's so many of them,

(04:41):
but she was like gesturing like she was shooting into
the neck, like Charlie Kirk or whatever like these are
disgusting individuals who have nothing else better to do but
feel like they're being they have the opportunity to behave
this way and they're doing some sort of good for
the world. I don't know what that means. I don't
get it, and the irony isn't lost on me, and

(05:03):
maybe it is on them that the political party that
they purport that they support was the political party that
essentially handpicked and installed a presidential candidate that hadn't received
one primary or caucus vote across any of the fifty
states because they waited until after the primary process to

(05:25):
finally pull the plug on Joe Biden, and they just
told all of their followers, you should vote for this woman.
You didn't have a say in actually selecting as your
candidate for the presidency. And then that candidate, with the
fundraising that they had at their fingertips, spent over a
billion dollars essentially having town halls or these big events

(05:47):
where they were paying celebrities to endorse her for president.
Even some of these people like Cardi b who I'm
not saying she doesn't know anything, but I mean I
felt dumber after she talked about Kamala Harris then how
I fell going into it. I was like, okay, let's
hear what Cardi b has to say about American politics.

(06:08):
That was a bad idea. I had to go to
the doctor and get tested for CTE afterwards. But that's
I mean, that's just like what they did over a
billion dollars over and over again. And then after that,
she loses handily in the electoral college. She loses by
two million votes or so and the popular vote. A

(06:29):
Republican hadn't won the popular vote in twenty years. And
she's still running around saying that it was a super
close race and we did a good job and all
this stuff. I mean, come on, and these are the
people protesting against the idea of having a king and
the people that just installed that candidate. It's a wild situation.
So I don't know, I just my head was swirling.
I know you have opinions on it.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Let's have our.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Own kind of no kings, no, no king's protests. And
we have Terry on the phone line to our show today. Terry,
welcome in. What's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Hey, I just wanted to say, these protesters are about two
hundred and fifty years late. We had that protest back
in seventeen seventy six.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh yeah, it was a good one.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
That's why we don't That's that's why we don't have
kings anymore. There are kings in other countries, though, I
would like to invite those people to maybe go try
that protest in Saudi Arabian and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, that'd be a tough one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I Actually it's funny. I got confused, Terry, because in
April I went to the Netherlands and their big national
holiday kind of like how we celebrate Independence Day is
King's Day there, and it's like supposed to be the
birthday of the king. The king, you know, is actually
like a fairly enjoyable figure for them, I guess in

(07:46):
the Netherlands, and it was literally just a day long party.
There was no protesting for anything. Everybody's just drinking and
eating and listening to music and having a great time.
So maybe that's what they thought they were signing up
for when it said no King's Day or whatever in June.
But now they're just addicted to testing.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Maybe we maybe we failed our fellow Americans I have
no idea.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
Well, well that could.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Be maybe they can celebrate on Donald Trump's birthday or something.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, there we go. We had the army.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
The army did the their two hundred and fiftieth birthday
on his birthday with all like the parade like Bastille
Day does in France, and they thought that was some
level of communism or authoritarianism, even though the highly democratic
country of France does the exact same thing.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Terry, So you're you're onto something. Let's do that every year.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
We just kind of celebrate with like a military parade,
and I think people would really dig that once they
got educated.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I appreciate it. Man, thanks for the call, thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yes, yeah, no, See that two hundred fifty years ago protest,
that was a pretty big one. Peyton, how much how
much revolutionary history did you get taught back in the day.
I would say a moderate amount, standard standard textbook stuff.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
So the King of England, he was a real piece
of work, I tell you. He the whole taxation with
that representation thing, big deal, really big deal. You know
why it's a big deal because they and I have
to put this into perspective. Guys, we colonize, and I

(09:19):
say we as like the Anglo Saxons, the Europeans colonized Europe,
or what becomes the United States of America. The first
permanent settlement is pop quiz, you know, first permanent settlement,
first permanent white settlement, and what would become the United
States of America.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Is now this is bad to me. I know this.
It's tough, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
And this is why I like to read books, is
because you don't like it might be taught in passing
every once in a while to some schools, but they
don't spend any time on this. And this is why
I have to try to do my own version of
being your old teacher here.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
I know James Town was up there. It's number one,
James Town. Let's go, come on.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
James Town was the first permanent settlement, and permanent like
Roanoke was before.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
It was not permanent.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Who didn't They all didn't make it, you know, because
it was a risky business trying to colonize. But that's
why they sent a bunch of people who generally did
not have much use for the people in England to
do this. But that's a different conversation that happened in
sixteen oh seven, we sign the Declaration of Independence and
are in the full fledged war against the Red Coats
and against the oppressive king himself over there in England.

(10:24):
Oh Georgie, he uh is not a good guy, and
he's just like, well, they are my colony. They can
do whatever they want with him. And then eventually the
colonists were like, wait a second, no, you can't and so,
and the fact that the colonists had participated in wars
on behalf of the English in like the Caribbean and
things of that nature actually made a big difference because

(10:45):
you had some guys that had some military experience that
were like, hey, we can fight back against these guys,
even if our army isn't as good, and we still
found a way to win that war. But the amount
of time that it took for them to finally like
rise up and fight back like that sixteen oh seven
is seventeen seventy six. Do the math on that. That's
one hundred and sixty nine years, give or take a
few months here or there. Think about that if you

(11:10):
want to go New England. The first settlement in New
England was from the Pilgrims, who landed there in sixteen
twenty at Plymouth Rock. That's still one hundred and fifty
six years or so between them settling that space and
finally deciding that collectively were rising up and we're fighting

(11:30):
the British. Do you know what one hundred and sixty
nine years from right now is that's pre Civil War
like we'd be before the Civil War. It took that
long for the stuff that was happening to manifest in
the people who lived in the colonies to rise up

(11:51):
and fight back against the British. So yeah, think about that.
That's how many generations of people from us right now
to our ancestors who were fighting in the Civil War
or who were born before the Civil War and then
fought in the Civil War, several generations of people. This

(12:12):
stuff manifests somehow in a matter of ten or eleven months.
These same people who blindly voted for Kamala Harris for
president and not asking any questions about whether or not
it was a fair process at all, these same people
are accusing Donald Trump and the people who are in

(12:32):
his administration, the people who support him, of supporting kings
or authoritarianism, when everything that they did a year ago
was truly what an oppressive authoritarian government would have done,
not even giving the people a voice or a choice.
Yet here they are from their I can't say Ivory

(12:57):
Tower because you look at some of these people, I'm
not sure the last time they took a bath was.
But they're out there, They're with their signs, they're making noise,
they're posting on social media. Some of them are lying
on social media. I mean they're taking these big pictures
of like different marches from years ago and saying, wow,
look at this turnout in this city, like Boston had

(13:18):
this many people show up. It's like, that's not even
the same time of year. This is obviously in springtime. Like,
who are you gaslighting on this? And that's the unfortunate thing,
ladies and gentlemen, as we get stuck perpetually and trying
to make sense of things that are nonsensical, it is
hard to rationalize the irrational. It's hard to even have

(13:39):
conversations with people who are so deep in the weeds
of their own opinions that they're not even willing to
listen to how you feel about things. And that's why
I think this No King's Day thing is no King's protest,
but they're going to be more of them because they
seemingly have nothing else better to do. Yes, it is
their first Amendment right and they can do whatever they want.
I just am going to choose on my saturdays, especially

(14:02):
when it's really nice outside, to have some fun and
not think about a political figure who is not doing
anything close to what we are accusing him of doing.
It makes absolutely no sense. Gee, thanks for listening. What's
on your mind?

Speaker 8 (14:15):
Hi?

Speaker 6 (14:16):
I'm just above thirty years old, and I was just
going to make a thing that I've noticed in the
last couple decades of just how socially through politics everything
has changed to the point where we are now and
where it started with things like in middle school we
still had the pledge of allegiance, but by the time
I got to high school, that was taken out. You
get to gay marriage, you get to abortion, illegal immigration,

(14:39):
and then it was like, well, let's test the waters.
If they can be okay with that, let's go to
you know, you can change genders, and then women and
men can be in the same sports, all these kind
of different things. And when even to twenty sixteen, have
trump the whole politic landscape has changed where you know,
in twenty sixteen, they said with Russia and that he

(15:01):
cheated and because of that, now in twenty twenty, people
said that Biden cheated, and people say now that Kamala
was cheated out of Yep, out of this election and
things with you know, Nazis and fascists, and they say, okay,
we won't say that, but Trump is still a king
and all these people. It's just very scary to see
people that actually believe this stuff. And this is why

(15:22):
we'll never be able to be come together as a
country and as people anymore, because it's not about politics anymore.
It's actually about good and evil, and if you support
the different sides, you're bad no matter what side it is.
And it's just very crazy to see how this has
happened over this amount of time. And like Trump, like
Vance is going to have to win again if you

(15:43):
want to fix any of these things, because they're rooted
so far into our society, then it'll take decades to
change it again.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, and she just to follow up on that, you know,
And it's interesting that you brought that up. But it's
kind of a vicious cycle because the independent voter and
this isn't to make make light of the fact that
the independent voter isn't like diving into the news cycle
twenty four to seven, three sixty five. But the independent
voter sways for the most part every couple of years

(16:09):
on which party that they generally support. Which is why
I would imagine that the Democrats are going to take
at least one of the two chambers of Congress in
the midterms next year, and there's a great chance that
a Democrat who is actually elected to be their nominee
will have a great chance to be president in twenty
twenty eight. And we're going to be in the same cycle.
It's just going to be reversed. So is there something

(16:30):
anything that you think could rally the United States around
each other, people from the left and right, or are
we so far gone that there's nothing that we would
be able to agree on and be on the same
page on.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Well, yeah, I don't I personally don't know. I don't
think so. Because there's even things where good things that happen,
like the hostages being released, or you know, anything for peace,
try to do anything good, healthy economy, there's always something
where it's twisted.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
To be evil.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Orybody just not good. It's just actually bad evil, and
you're supporting something. So I just don't know how you're
going to be able to change just the political climate
in this country and even one election. I mean, it's
going to take decades to get us to get back
to being civil again. So it's sad and it's crazy,
and it's just insane to watch in real time. How

(17:20):
far just we just keep going down and it just
always looks bad even when stuff is good.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, and I don't I don't disagree with anything you
just said to you, and it is unfortunate. I appreciate
you calling in man, thanks so much for listening to
our show.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Mike's on the phone line four two, five, five eight,
eleven ten. Mike, welcome into eleven ten. Kfab what's on
your mind?

Speaker 9 (17:42):
Hey, if we had a king, wouldn't he for schools
to be closed and tell you now to go out
to eating restaurants or gather in groups are more than
four or five? And if you did gather in groups
of four or five, you'd have your neighbors call in
on you and report you. When did king do that?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, that's an interesting point. I didn't know Anthony Fauci.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Was he a king? Could you imagine a crowd in
his head?

Speaker 10 (18:06):
He was?

Speaker 11 (18:07):
He was.

Speaker 9 (18:07):
He wasn't necessarily a king. He may be in prince,
but he was. He was ordained by.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
The Oh yes he was ordained.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. It's wondering. He's like, wow,
this guy got important all of a sudden. That's that's crazy. Yeah,
what a.

Speaker 9 (18:22):
By Gavin Newsom. Yeah, you know, going out to dinner
with his friends and you know people you can't go
outside and all. Was it Milwaukee or Chicago? Where if
you had neighbors getting to dinner for Thanksgiving with their
family and ten people were in the house, he had
neighbors calling, you're reporting them and snitching?

Speaker 8 (18:39):
Yeah people?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, no, and that that's uh, Mike, you're you're nailing
all of this.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
And the thing about Newsom is he actually could be
cast as a prince in a Disney movie. He's got
the hair, he kind of has a smile, right, like
he actually couldn't pull Yeah he.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Could pull it off.

Speaker 12 (18:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
The here you run to something here, but you know,
you're one hundred percent right. And that's the other thing too,
is the political side of things that we're talking about.
The Democrats, the people on the left, they are snitches, right,
like they really if anybody who is against them or
anybody who they don't like. You know, you read about

(19:18):
some of that stuff in New York with the guy
who had the squirrel, the rehab squirrel that he kept
as a pet. Now he didn't have proper paperwork on it.
But they come and they basically are just like, yeah,
we gotta, uh, we gotta take this animal and we're
gonna have to euthanize it to test it for rabies
and all this stuff. It's just like only a fellow
Democrat would actually have no heart to decide to do

(19:40):
that because they were annoyed somehow that somebody was having
more fun than them. I guess I have no idea, Mike,
but it's a it's a sad state of affairs.

Speaker 9 (19:50):
I hopefully it gets better about next two to three years.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
But yeah, ye here, Yeah, that's it's true. I mean
I haven't seen one unless you're in Sacramento where the
Kings are about to play another NBA season of basketball.
They used to be here, remember, I mean, Peyton, you're
too young for this. But the Kings used to play
in Omaha.

Speaker 9 (20:09):
Yep, exactly, but I don't watch it. I don't watch
NBA basketball.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
So anyway, that's the only Kings I know that are
in America.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
They're over there. Oh, the LA Kings hockey team. Also,
that's a different type of king over there in La. Yeah,
they skate around. I appreciate it. Thanks for listening. Yep,
you too. If you want to call in, you can
four two, five, five, eight, eleven ten. I have a
lot of people that are you know, emailing in and
don you know, it's a little feisty. Don sent me

(20:36):
an email and said the eight million people in more
than twenty seven hundred communities are believed to be the
largest protest in history against the sitting president, plus hundreds
more demonstrations worldwide. Let's just start there for a second.
If I was living anywhere other than the United States,
do you think I would give a rip about American politics?
You are wrong. I would not. I wouldn't care even

(20:57):
a little bit. And not to say that, you're all
user if you're in Switzerland throwing a no King's protest
when you have a keg in your country, but alas
I can't tell these people what they can do with
their lives. They can do whatever they want.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
What was achieved? What was achieved?

Speaker 1 (21:17):
What has Donald Trump done to make you think that
he's some sort of king versus the previous administration whom
like Mike mentioned, was like, uh, yeah, you can't do this,
you can't do that, and you have to wear a
mask everywhere. What are we doing here? Like, come on,
don said? Trump responded with an AI video of King
Donald tostride a plane dumping pooh on demonstrators. How presidential?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
And as far as that goes, yeah, And I've been
on the record, don I don't like him poking at
the bear on the other side of the aisle. He
sees it all as a big joke. All the people
that are protesting against him. He thinks it's a big joke.
And the way that he handles it, and this is
the way he's handled it since he got into the
limelight in politics ten years ago, is he go on
social media and he makes these crazy, outlandish posts and

(22:03):
now he's using artificial intelligence to make all this stuff.
And you know what, that's just who he is. And
the people who are his supporters, they love it and
That's fine. It's not the way I would go about
doing things if I wanted to be taken seriously as
a president. But you know how you would. The right
way to respond to that is to not care about
his AI posts and photos and videos. I mean, what

(22:24):
are we doing here? And don says this want to
be king is rebuked, has been rebuked by dozens of courts,
many of the judges appointed by Trump for his unconstitutional,
authoritarian orders and actions. The people have had enough. What
has he done except in force current rules in the
United States of America? What has he done that other
presidents have in some way not done? And how are

(22:46):
you justifying that he is a wannabe king? When the
Biden administration actively was telling people not to leave their
home or you could get cited for that. You could
have citations for having a gathering at your home. You
couldn't go in as doors that a mask on, otherwise
you could get yourself in trouble. And Trump's the king?
What are we talking about here? Kamala Harris installed as

(23:08):
a presidential candidate with no primary votes, and you're talking
about the Republicans being kings? What are we talking about?
Like the irony is just absolutely absurd to me. We're
on a beautiful mid October Saturday. You have a few
million people across the country protesting against the president that's
not done anything wrong, and so it relates to UH

(23:28):
being accused of being an authoritarian, especially considering some of
the behavior of the political party that these people are
allegedly supporting. Makes no sense to me. But we're getting
your thoughts on it. Four O two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten,
and Tim is on the line. Welcome in, Tim, what's
on your mind?

Speaker 8 (23:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (23:45):
I got a question about it.

Speaker 9 (23:50):
Great school or kindergarten teacher?

Speaker 13 (23:52):
Yeah there Chicago there that you know acted like shot
in the neck.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, I saw that, And now.

Speaker 9 (23:59):
There are back at her in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yes, as far as I'm aware, she has friends who
are teachers saying that she is she is exercising her
First Amendment, right, Tim, And that was the way that
she wanted to exercise that, and she should not be
punished for that.

Speaker 13 (24:16):
I mean, come on, They're firing other teachers for silliest
reasons in the world that don't come close to something
like this.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
One hundred percent agreed, Tim, And I would imagine right
the pressure is going to be on because she they
know who she is, they've figured out it out, she's
on their website. There's going to be pressure to do
something and we'll see, I guess. But Chicago's probably the
one place maybe she could get away with it.

Speaker 8 (24:38):
I don't know, do you know.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
Do you know that I was just plus a wonder,
I said, I noticed that a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Oh I think we lost you, Tim, you know, no,
we got you your back, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (24:54):
Yeah, No, A lot of I know a lot of
the people there are like their older, older people like
in the seventies, so, and they were saying stuff about
the illegals, and part of the reasons why they're against
you know, Trump and everything was because of the ice agents.
And they say someone was going on like millions of
people are getting taken to these ice fields holding facilities

(25:17):
and they're not gonna be overholded. Well, next thing, you know,
he was there. I consider them concentration camps.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, and I thought about, yeah, I know where you're
going with this, Tim, and we're we're cutting in and
out on me. But I mean, just yeah, that's a
lack of self awareness on their part, just you know,
thinking about that from that perspective. Just wild to me
that we're even in a position where you would even
insinuate that considering what actually happened with the concentration camps

(25:48):
in Nazi Germany. Just in my go visit the Holocaust
Museum and then come back to me and tell me
that you think that these are concentration camps, these people
that broke the law to get into our nation. Henry
is on a phone line of four or two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten, Henry, welcome to our show today.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 11 (26:05):
Hey, Henry?

Speaker 5 (26:06):
I I'd like to say, you know, there's a lot
to discuss about our disagreements about the no kings standpoint.
But what's particularly ironic is conservatives like you bemoaned the
state and local ordinances, city ordinances that enforced the mask mandates,

(26:28):
and those COVID COVID ordinances. It wasn't straight down from
the federal government. I think someone who values state rights
would understand that difference.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, well, but Henry, who was coming? But Henry, Henry,
where was.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
This in the National Guard?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Henry, Henry, Henry, Henry Henry and.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
The cities they occupy.

Speaker 14 (26:49):
So I thank god, oh.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
My god, can you can you can you can? We
can we go back and forth here? Can we like
just like talk a little bit here before.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
You runt of time to finish my point?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah? Well, I want to talk about your first point, befo,
where we get inundated with points that we can't address
them all. I the first thing that you said here
about states rights, you're one hundred percent right. Who was
in charge of the CDC who were making the recommendations
of these local governments and what they should be doing,
Like that's a pretty summon the Trump administration. No, No,
the Trump administra Trump administration was in charge when we

(27:19):
were learning about what the heck was happening. But that
doesn't explain any of the mandates with masking beyond twenty
twenty one, and the vaccination mandates that we were hearing
about in twenty twenty one, or the fact that the
CDC kept saying that you needed to get boostered if
you wanted and carry around your little card to make
sure that you could get into places.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
Sure, were they forcing you to do it? Were you
forced to do it or.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Lose your job?

Speaker 9 (27:44):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
People were absolutely.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Forced to do it, otherwise they couldn't continue to work
jailed as far as I know they were, but they
certainly couldn't live their life.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
They lost their jobs. Henry.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I'm running out of time, Henry. Put Henry back hold,
hold on, No, pull Henry down. Don't hang up on him,
just pull him down. Put him back on. Hold. We'll
talk to him more. I want more, Henry. Hopefully he'll
stay on the line. Let's see if our friend Henry
is still on the line with us today. Henry, are
you still there?

Speaker 5 (28:10):
I am still here.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
All right, Henry.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Let's be let's be more cordial with each other here.
I apologize for getting a little animated there. I was
up against the end of the clock. Let's start over
what you call your Your point originally was that Donald
Trump is indeed, you know, overstepping his boundaries from your
perspective as president.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Is that correct?

Speaker 8 (28:30):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
And my perspective is, if that's what's being said, I
how do you defend some of the stuff that democratic
administrations have done, including just a year ago, the installation
of Kamala Harris without a single primary or caucus vote
for her to be, you know, the presidential nominee for
an entire party that didn't get a real voice in
the matter. How is that not overstepping their own democratic boundaries.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
I mean, it is a little funny. I wanted to
keep this, you know, typically about what you specifically said,
you're kind of taking off in another way. I'm not happy,
but I'll respond to that. I was not happy with
the Kamala Harris nomination, but the Constitution doesn't have anything
to say about a party's nomination. I was very unhappy

(29:18):
with that. I think Democrats would have had a fair
chance had they not anointed someone. I'm very unhappy about that,
and I think that the Democrats are largely to blame
for the rise of Donald Trump. But that does not
diminish the threat of Donald Trump. And that does not
that does not mean that the Democrats aren't still the
better option of the two.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
All right, well, I can tip my cap and say
that's a fair analysis from your perspective. Now, what did
you want to say about what I said.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Earlier, specifically about the COVID mandates, specifically about how they
were enforced. They're enforced through state and city ordinances. That
was you know, if you value states rights, you know
that was the proper mechanism. You know, obviously I don't

(30:07):
agree with all the policies that there were. I think
a lot of them are silly. I think a lot
of the red states. You know, then you can look
at the numbers of COVID deaths and it pretty it
draws it pretty clearly that, you know, the less restrictions
there were, the more deaths there were. And so you know,
everyone can make that analysis, you know, but as far

(30:27):
as the Constitution has to say anything, you know, that
was properly handled and that was not an authoritarian power
graph from the Vitamin administration of all administrations, when it
was the Trump administration who was the one that oversaw
a lot of the more aggressive measures initially.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, and Henry for whatever it's worth. And I did
have a few people send me this in my email
about people who were actually arrested in various states, and
you're right, it's local enforcement that would create that. My
perspective is it was coming from a federal government place
of recommendation as well as not just trying to tell

(31:05):
people what was best for them, but saying you are
a horrible person if you disagreed with this in any way,
shape or form. And that included with the vaccine process,
which again the idea that the government would tell me,
as an adult human being, that I can't go to
certain places, or I can't keep my job because I
didn't get vaccinated the certain amount of times that was

(31:29):
required of me, or I didn't do a COVID test,
you know, when I have no symptoms that I feel
like that was a big stretch from the federal government
suggesting that. And because of how our government works, and
you can agree with this, and this is a Trump
thing too. It trickles down to the entire political movement

(31:50):
underneath them. Because of the power that the presidency has
the people who are at the top, everybody below them
wants to be just like them. And that's what has
created such a riff in our country. What would you say,
Henry about all of that stuff and maybe the faults
of the previous administration in creating this divide and how

(32:12):
great this divide seems to be between the two sides
while we're sitting here trying to answer the question as
to why people even think that a king exists in
this country.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Yeah, I think that's great context. You know, the way
you frame it as the federal government abide an administration
saying that you're a bad person for not getting a
you know, not wearing a mask at all times, or
not getting the proper vaccinations. I'd like to contrast that
with you know, the current administration, the Trump administration addressing

(32:44):
you know, the top brass of the US military and saying,
we need to go into these cities, we need to
you know, root out the enemy within. And i'd like
to you know, contrast those two because you know, if
you're talking about mean words and Trump using AI where
it's you know, rude or crass, I'd like to contrast
that with the literal threat of violence that the federal

(33:04):
government is installing against state will on the people, you know,
in democratic cities. And it's very part is in the
way it's being handled. And he explicitly, you know, says
that it's partisan, so there's really no debating that part.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, I guess just to follow just to follow up that, though, Henry,
are we talking about illegal aliens who are in these
places that are sanctuary cities or states and they're intentionally
being harbored even with criminal records?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Are those the people we're talking about here?

Speaker 5 (33:40):
What do you mean, Well, you're.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Saying, like the enemy within, it's just like, well, I
haven't seen people who are just active Democrats getting arrested
and thrown in jail. The people I'm seeing detained are
people who are here as illegal aliens.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
They're explicitly naming leftist groups as targets like Antifa operation
and referring to them, to them as domestic terrorists, and
using the threat of you know, a standing army, something
that our constitution, you know, liked to lay out the
way that you know, authority is handled federally and you know, statewide,

(34:16):
you know, not just sending in the National Guard from
another state into a liberal state, not just federalizing the
National Guard within that state, but also sending marines into
those areas. You know, in Chicago, they flew a black
Hawk helicopter down to an apartment building, broke down people's doors,

(34:39):
the doors of American citizens, and held them at gunpoint
and pulled their kids out half naked, and zip tied
them and threw them in the back of U hole.
So I mean, if you mean words from the Biden
administration that make you a little bit uncomfortable about, you know,
the way you handle your own your own masks, wearing
in your own vaccines, I think you can textualize that

(35:03):
with the literal violence that is being perpetrated by this
government against its own people.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, and Henry, for whatever it's worth, I don't think
you and me are going to see that eye die
because I haven't seen any of that. Besides the way
that they've detained and it has been somewhat violent with
with the people who are illegal aliens in this country,
but American citizens who are not creating crime, who are
not intentionally obstructing what the military or law enforcement is

(35:33):
attempting to do. I haven't seen any of those people
being detained or physically abused simply for just existing. That's
not something that has actually happened.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
And so I just I feel like being that you
haven't seen this stuff because okay, so tell.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Me exactly when it happened. Tell me when when? Well, okay,
but tell me when, because it would have shown up.
I think on everybody's radar that there was a helicopter
who should you drop down and started just detaining random
people who were American citizens and throwing them in the
back of you halls with zip ties on that.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Yeah, I think it's very convenient that you're not aware
of this because the Trump administration literally posted a video
with rock music and quick edits, you know, to show
you know, yeah, yeah, a very militarized force going into
an apartment complex and dragging people out without warrant. Yeah,
a lot of them were American citizens, and you know,

(36:28):
because of the dysfunctional nature of this administration, they're throwing
them in the back of rental vans. So, you know,
it's through and through an embarrassment. And I think that
anyone that isn't concerned about these kinds of power grabs
from the executive branch should definitely pick up the Constitution
and give it a quick read. Maybe, you know, brush
up on some you know history of the way that

(36:52):
you know, the Crown used your your home and could
violate your privacy whenever it wanted and harper troops and
send them in, you know, willy nilly without any sort
of local representation.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Hey, Henry, we're gonna have to stop here. It's been
a fun chat. I appreciate you calling in. We'll agree
to disagree on some of these points, but I do
appreciate your calling in and giving your perspective on the matter.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yep, do you appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
As far as what he's saying about, like the issue
at hand with the Donald Trump and the repelling and
the militarizing and all this stuff. It is done to
create an enforcement situation. It is not being done to
random individuals with no purpose whatsoever. We have seen that
manifest itself. And if you're a Democrat, you're never gonna

(37:42):
agree that it's something that needs to be done in
this country.

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We'll have more, We'll take more calls.

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Speaker 1 (41:25):
All right, well, thank you for listening to us as
we uh roll along here on your Monday, and thanks
to Henry, who you know, was very disagreeable, and there's
a lot of people, there's a lot of evidence. There's
nothing I was going to tell him that it was
going to make him change his mind. I don't know
where he got the idea of the Marines being in Chicago.
I have no idea where he got the zip ties
and throw him in the back of the U haul.

(41:46):
These are certainly talking points that anybody who's opposed to
Trump would probably say.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
But you know what, if you feel that way and
you want to protest at these No Kings Day protests
or whatever, knock yourself out, man. You have a first
memoright to do that. If you lived in a country
where Kings actually were real, that crap would have been
shut down real fast and the organizers would have been
jailed immediately. But obviously that's not how the United States works.

(42:14):
Our phone lines are open and they're filling up. We
want you to be a part of the show. You
can call us at four h two, five, five, eight
eleven ten. George is on the line. We'll start with him. George,
appreciate you staying on hold. What's going on with you today?

Speaker 17 (42:25):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (42:25):
Brother, Hey, the marine thing in the helicopter that came
out for about a day and a half till it
was proved to be a line. Then everybody took it down.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 14 (42:36):
You know, talking about it, a man, he goes, we
had churches raided by police. Okay, the only thing the
constitutions eight churches alone, will I have nothing to do
with religion. Basically, they raided people's houses of religion for
practice and their religion. That is against federal and state laws.

Speaker 9 (42:56):
Yeah, in every state.

Speaker 14 (42:58):
Right, Yeah, so you talk about yeah, you talk about
a king. A king's raided. The only place in the
constitution they said they really can't do nothing to.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah, and the rules that were in place just to
be able to do church, you had to do it outside.
You had to set up like a stage outside or
do it virtually and stuff. You know, I don't know, man, George.
You know, as you know as well as I do,
that people who are stuck in their ways and they
just know they'd hate Donald Trump and no matter what
he does, they're going to disagree or hate with him.

(43:28):
There's no reasoning there, you know, it's just no justification.

Speaker 14 (43:33):
Of either side. Of either side. You just might as
well beat your head against a brick wall. Because you're
not talking to him.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
It is true one hundred percent, and it might even
be more than that now, to be honest with you.

Speaker 19 (43:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (43:45):
Yeah, It's amazing how people get dummers.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
To get well.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
I'll let you speak for yourself on that one, George,
but I feel like I'm.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
So sharpened enough.

Speaker 14 (43:54):
I'm getting there slowly, but.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
I appreciate the call, buddy, Thanks for listening to yeap,
have a good one. Let's get to Dale on the
phone line. Dale is on the phone line in four, two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten. Dale, You're with Emory on eleven
tin kfab Yes.

Speaker 17 (44:09):
Sir, how are you a good afternoon?

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Good afternoon?

Speaker 17 (44:12):
Hey, I like to comment on on O Henry He yeah,
he he's an unhappy person. But anyway, what I'm trying
to say is if Trump couldn't do what he does,
the courts and stuff would stop him, and he's doing it.
He's doing things legal.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Well, and even when they do stop him, I mean,
he's he's he's pushing that to the end of the line, right.
It's just like, okay, so what legally can we or
cannot we do? And you're seeing that there are actual
ways that he can be doing what he's doing in
whatever way, especially when it comes to the ice thing.
So this is the thing that's the real, you know,
touch point situation here. These are all illegal aliens and

(44:56):
in almost every president sands Joe Biden, this includes Obama,
the includes you know, Bush and Clinton. These these every
president besides Biden would have actively enforced our border situation
and tried to refuse these people to take advantage of
the loopholes. I don't get why that all of a
sudden has become such a a polarizing topic of conversation,

(45:18):
but it's people need something to be mad at, Dale.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
They really do, Yeah, yes they do.

Speaker 17 (45:24):
I just wanted to say that Trump is a good
guy and I voted for him, and I hope he
keeps up the good work.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
I appreciate the call, Dale, thanks for having us on
your radio today.

Speaker 6 (45:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Let's go to.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Beth on the phone line at four h two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten. Welcome in, Beth. What's on your mind?

Speaker 22 (45:45):
I am right, Well, I just decided if I turned
you on today. I've been kind of busy, but I've
been listening. I think I don't really pay much attention
to any of this stuff because mostly those people are
just trying to get attention, and for the most part,
it works because then everybody's talking about it, so it

(46:07):
feeds the news system and also well one of your listeners.
And I'm not saying anything negative because everybody has a
different perspective based off of their experience and based off
of their own knowledge. So that's where people kind of
come from. But what I can say from my own
experience is that I perceive with things a lot different

(46:29):
based off of my knowledge and my experience. So when
somebody says, yeah, people are victimized in many different ways,
and American citizens are also victimized in their own country
and they're kind of victimized silently too, And I know that.
You know, then you know it can and that can

(46:52):
transcend all kinds of administrations. Yeah, and so things happen
to people and when so, but when you want to
talk about those things, all of a sudden, a lot
of people don't want to talk about it. But there's
real things that happen to American people, and American people

(47:13):
are victimized.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, I'm with you, Beth, and I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah,
and I appreciate you calling in. Thanks so much for
listening to our show today. I get what she's saying,
and I don't disagree with her, and I think that
there's a real element of just needing to go into
a conversation knowing you're going to likely disagree with a person,
but still having open years and still being willing to

(47:36):
have that discussion. But as George also mentioned that most
people who are coming to the table to have that discussion,
especially when it's Trump related, it creates a bigger riff
than it would otherwise because he's involved. And that is
why I think that usually you could probably do that
ten percent role that George mentioned, We're ten percent on
either side. Just you'll never get to them. They're never

(47:57):
going to change their mind, they don't even want to
listen to you. You're better talking to a wall versus
talking to them, And I think that's generally probably true.
I think that number is probably closer to twenty five
to thirty percent when Trump is involved, because people are
so passionate about hating him, and people are so passionate
about loving him as a politician, even if he does

(48:19):
stuff you don't like, you don't agree with even stuff
that you're just a little bit unsure about or stuff
that you know, like on the other side, if you
were a fan of how he's handling the Middle East situation,
you can't even make that admission because you feel like
you're betraying yourself and the team that you cheer for.
Almost I would like to think that when Donald Trump
is out of politics, which will happen at some point here,

(48:41):
you would think by twenty twenty eight, or even if
he's still kind of lingering around after that is Obama
seems to have with the Democrat Party, you would think
at some level there's going to be a conversation that
maybe we could get back to talking to each other
and having a better understanding of who each other are.
But here is that this is created just a long

(49:02):
standing chasm between the two sides that's never going to
be mended. Mark, We appreciate you for being on the
show and for listening to us.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 8 (49:11):
Oh, I mean, I think when it comes to this one,
and it's just it's so frustrating, But ultimately I think
it's come down to we have two parties, have Democrat
and Republican, But lately it's more fact versus propaganda. I
think the source of the problem is is somehow, in

(49:34):
some way we were able to get some sort of
control over accountability for the media in this country. It
would solve so much of the problem. I think that's
what it is. You have the side that watches the
media and believes everything that's said most of it is false.

(49:57):
It's it's sick through.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yes, yeah, it's all spin. Yeah, they spin it. Everybody
does it. It's a both sides thing. That's one hundred
percent true.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Mark.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
The only thing I would say is like, we got
to be careful about freedom of the press and the
way that that's outlined in the First Amendment, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 8 (50:14):
Absolutely, But at the same time, but there has to
be some sort of at least what you're saying should
need to be true or factual, you know, just like
some of this No King stuff that we saw. You know,
they're put it out and they're saying, hey, look at
the turnout and it's been proven. There is a different thing.

(50:37):
Footage from twenty seventeen and all this stuff, it's all manufactured.
It's not it's not news if it's manufactured.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah, it's a you know what, Mark, I'm one hundred
percent with you. I just I don't know what a
good answer is on that other than us just being
more diligent as a human race, as a society of
just check checking the sources ourselves, because I don't know
how you would be able to put rules on those people,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Right?

Speaker 8 (51:05):
And see, and that's the thing that's what made me
want to call is Henry earlier. You know, obviously he
is a product of what he saw in his small
line of media that he looks at, and he took
that as fact. And it doesn't matter what other information
was out there, that's what he saw.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
He chose it.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah, And his example of like the Blackhawk copter and
the going in like that was from a video that
was kind of mashed together. But the video that he's
referencing was disproven pretty quickly, and the people who were
outraged just kind of dropped it. They didn't apologize for
being wrong. They didn't understand, you know, like, hey, maybe

(51:45):
it would be good for us to just like denounce this.
He still thinks it's a thing that's happening right now
and it's just but it's not, you know.

Speaker 8 (51:52):
So and I find myself I just one more quick thing.
I find myself frustrated. You know, I'm a Facebook for
me is like a spectator sport, and I just think
I don't really engage.

Speaker 14 (52:03):
But sure lately.

Speaker 8 (52:05):
It's it's so frustrating because I can't I can't decipher
between what's real and what's AI. And so nowadays AI
these videos that are out there, they're so believable. They
can just do whatever they want. And unfortunately you have
these people that they just buy into it, and that's
that's real life. That's what happened, and that's no matter

(52:27):
what you say, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah, you know what, Mark, it's a good call. It's
a good idea. I appreciate you for being a part
of the show today and thanks for listening to us.

Speaker 8 (52:35):
Absolutely good boss, America.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Ellen's on our phone line of four h two five five,
eight eleven ten. Welcome in, Ellen. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 15 (52:43):
I believe that there were seven million people walk marching,
and I appreciate all of them. I'm a little bit
younger than Trump, but I met characters like Trump in
my lifetime. But Emory, I would like to know your
opinion when you watch TV on that January what did
you think about all those people with Trump's signs invading

(53:05):
the capital?

Speaker 7 (53:06):
What was your thought when you were.

Speaker 15 (53:08):
How did you feel, especially when Trump even kind of
implied it would have been okay if Hence died, if
they hung them.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah day yeah, Well Ellen, what you thought?

Speaker 12 (53:23):
Right?

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:25):
But Ellen, again, this is going kind of like and
please don't This is not personal and I don't want
this to come off as at all disrespectful, So please
just try to be patient with me as I try
to explain myself. The January sixth thing isn't necessarily the
whole king Trump thing, but I understand where the correlation
is coming from. I guess my reaction to that is.

(53:47):
Even in the gosh four and a half years since
that happened, we have learned more about what was going
on behind the scenes that day. And it wasn't just
a bunch of angry people that Trump gave a dog
whistle too and told them to just invade the Capitol.
There were a bunch of FBI agents within that group.
There are a bunch of people within the police force

(54:08):
there that seemingly weren't that interested in slowing these people
down That seem to be correlated by the Democrats who
were also in Congress, because Nancy Pelosi specifically said, I
don't want the National Guard to be here at the
Capitol today. When Donald Trump said it's going to be
a big crowd, we should have the National Guard here,
she didn't declined that. So there are a lot of

(54:28):
angles that people who are either Democrats or anti Trump,
and there are a lot of angles that are Republicans
in Trumpers, they're not going to look at the entire
picture because they don't want their side to look villainous
in any way, shape or form. I'm just saying Jan
six is a bit of a different monster altogether when
you consider all the factors we found out years after

(54:50):
the thing happened.

Speaker 15 (54:53):
Well, I think you need to do a more research camera.
You're a small young man and you, you know, come
with a big guy. He could have called the National Garden.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
No, but he couldn't. But he couldn't, but he man.

Speaker 15 (55:07):
Ever, Yeah, you know what it comes I think it
comes down to his family. He was brought up, never
have it and you know he never had any input
in America, none of us, and I obviously you with
this and this is all about his character. John McCain

(55:29):
was a hero. Yeah, and he and he should have
someone should have called him out on that more than
they did. Shame on all for not calling them out
and holding him to that, to that little space.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah, and I appreciate it. I appreciate the call.

Speaker 6 (55:45):
Ellan.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
I got to hit a break here, and I do
appreciate your thoughts today. And you've you've we're cutting out
just a little bit, but well, I don't want to.
I'm trying to be as tasteful as I can. I
just disagree with Ellen about a lot of way that
was handled. It is not all on Donald Trump in
that situation. And when she brings up January sixth, there's

(56:05):
so many other factors and variables that need to be
talked about. And it's not about me doing research. It's
about being willing to read and learn and understand what
is going to take place and what's going to happen
moving forward. You can't just sit there and be like, well,
I saw what I saw for those four or five
hours on January sixth, and I know everything that happened there.

(56:26):
That's not how that was, That's not what happened there.
There's been a lot of information that's come out since.
If that's the example that we're going to use. Bill,
thanks for holding of being on our show today. What
do you think about all this?

Speaker 12 (56:38):
Well, I'll tell you I was in Kansas City this
weekend and there were a lot of real King's people.
There was a lot of them. And the thing to
remember is a lot of people calling in on this
show don't think much of it. They think Trump is
probably okay. But those Bill Kings guys are going to
vote protesting on that day. Your bot's gonna vote. So

(57:05):
it's really nice that you have your opinions and you think,
I think Trump's okay, but you better vote.

Speaker 19 (57:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Well, and I mean that goes for everybody, Bill, But
I think we did pretty all right, I mean just
both sides, honestly. Yeah, turnout of allupwards of like seventy
two to seventy three percent for the presidential election in
twenty twenty four. I guess, you know, the midterm election,
if they can get over fifty percent, they'll be okay.

Speaker 12 (57:29):
You know, that's that's good. But I don't think Stofford
had anything. But what what.

Speaker 17 (57:37):
Does Stofford get?

Speaker 12 (57:38):
What did she get in her merit their meritorial race.

Speaker 14 (57:42):
What did she get?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
But what does that matter?

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Right?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Like, Like, that's not even the same thing. They voted
in May. Like we voted in May for that.

Speaker 12 (57:49):
What means they didn't care. It means they didn't care
enough to vote. Are the people are there? Are the
people who back Donald Trump? Or do they care enough
to vote? That's what I'm saying. The people when it
came was sovereign, they didn't really care.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
No, But Bill, Bill, I just guess, like, and I'm
not trying to be combative here, but the may oral
race historically in Omah, and we covered this a lot
in April leading up to the election. We sat here
and we broke it down. We interviewed every single candidate,
We talked about it a lot. We averaged like twenty
five to thirty percent turnout, and we were like at

(58:26):
twenty seven percent turnout. This time, it was the same
number of turnout. It was just different people voted, and
they voted in John Ewing. Now you're talking about a
presidential race that's completely different. You know, if Donald Trump
just won the popular vote in the United States of
America by two million votes, he is the first Republican
to win the popular vote in twenty years. It's seventy

(58:46):
plus percent turnout across the entire United States. And you're
telling me there's a turnout problem for Republicans.

Speaker 12 (58:53):
Yeah, I think. I think they have a habit of
being complacent and not involving the next time. That's what
I say. All Right, we really did a good job
last time. This time, everything's fine, I'm okay, Yeah, I'm okay,
and then bam, you get a bunch of knuckleheads in there.
That's what I'm saying, all right, if you're complacent, If

(59:15):
you're complacent, you lose.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
And I don't disagree with that bill.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
I think midterms, you know, thirteen months from now, is
going to be real important to see what that turnout
is because you can't fork over both chambers of Congress
and expect anything to get done. There's no doubt about that.
Do appreciate the call today. John's on our phone line
of four h two five five, eight, eleven ten. John,
Welcome into the show. On eleven ten, kfab.

Speaker 11 (59:36):
Hey, Amara, I haven't talked to you on the long time.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Hey John, what's up?

Speaker 10 (59:41):
Hey man?

Speaker 11 (59:41):
And I'm not calling in to try to change your
mind anything or any Republican brun of mine out deb
But for my little two cent the King, no King,
I support that a thousand percent.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
And if people.

Speaker 11 (59:57):
Really and I mean independence, Republican, Democrat or whoever, cannot
see what Donald Trump is doing. And like I said before,
I feel the reason this man won't go up against Futon.
And this is just my opinion. Putin has time on
Donald Trump, and I'm telling you that right now he
has some on Donald Trump. Donald Trump know it, everybody

(01:00:19):
else know it. So I know people are gonna stick
to their guns and hold on to what they got.
But uh, this man is acting seriously like he is
can do what he wants to when he wants to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
And the American.

Speaker 11 (01:00:33):
Peoples who are getting trumpled with ice, and they have
already said how many.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
But I know the Republican probably don't believe that. But
like I say, if it come to your back door,
then you might say something differently. But there's a problem
in the United States of America. And I just hope
that more folks will wake up and say, wait a minute,
I support Donald Trump, you know, but like like we
got to stop this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yeah, I'm running out of time, John, But I do
appreciate your thoughts on your call today thing for listening
to us. Yeah, I mean the whole putent thing there.
I disagree with that completely based on their interactions. Bill's
on the phone line. Bill, welcome into the show today.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 18 (01:01:12):
Yeah, Amory, I appreciate you having this conversation this afternoon.
I just want to tell you something about it. I
know that I think it was John earlier that was speaking,
you know, about freedom of speech, and I get I
am a big time I loved I loved Donald Trump,
and he gets out there, he gets on the edge,
he says some things. He's not as professional as he

(01:01:33):
probably should be. But with freedom of speech with this media,
the problem is partially is the Internet and the mainstream media.
If people don't pay attention to both sides and they
just hear a snippet on either side, they believe it,
especially I'm going to say these younger people.

Speaker 17 (01:01:54):
But we've got to have some with with.

Speaker 18 (01:01:58):
With the public media, mainstream media. We've got to have
some accountability in there without infringing on freedom of speech.
It's like almost if you say, if you liable, somebody
say something that's not true. There's penalties for that, and
there should be for the mainstream media as well, because

(01:02:19):
it triggers people and it creates havoc. And I mean,
and that goes for both Democrats and Republicans. I'm just
it's like this controversy over Antifa, whether or not they're
an organization or if they exist. I just came back
to Omaha. It spen in ten years in Oregon in
Portland at a restaurant. At nine restaurants in Oregon had

(01:02:41):
one in downtown Portland. We had to close because the
TIFA back during the pandemic, was trying to burn down
the Federal courthouse. And still to this day, downtown Portland's
a ghost town. Commercial real estate is going dirt cheap.
Nobody wants to be there. In my opinion, we've got
to have some accountability with freedom of speech. If it's

(01:03:05):
not true, there's got to be some kind of penalty.
And the other thing I'd like to just touch on
is like this governor of Illinois, Yeah, refusing to help
get help. There should be some accountability if people get hurt.
It's amazing how many people are killed there every weekend.
We've gotten numb to that. Yeah, yeah, and a guy

(01:03:27):
won't accept the help. It blows my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Well, Bill, and so it's all politics at this point.
I do appreciate the call today, Thanks for listening to
us on the show. The uh my gut instinct. Right,
Like he mentioned libel and like lying and stuff. The
reason that you can sue for that is because it
could affect your opportunities, your livelihood and money that you have.

(01:03:51):
We're consuming the news, and yeah, I might be affecting
the way that we're viewing the news or understanding the news,
but it's kind of on us if we're not willing
to look at multiple sources, which is my only thing.
I don't want to mess with the First Amendment as
far as it comes to freedom of speech, freedom of
the press, all that stuff. If you feel like the
press is lying to you or some of the press

(01:04:12):
is lying to you, well all the stuff that you
think are factual, there are people out there that think
those are lies too. It just kind of depends on
where you're at and how your politics line up. Now,
as far as his last point there with JB. Pritzker,
the governor of Illinois, it's politics. The way you hold
a guy like that accountable. Is the people of Illinois

(01:04:33):
vote him out? You know, as much as I would
love to just be like, well, if you don't accept
Donald Trump's help to try to lower crime in your communities,
then you should be punished. Well, okay, Well tell the
people of Illinois that so they vote him out, because
that's the opportunity you can to get him removed. There

(01:04:53):
is oversight, it's from the American people. But if they
keep electing him, let that thing burn. Man, it's their place,
it's their communities. If they consistently still feel like he's
doing the best job for him and they like the crime,
let him keep the crime. As far as I'm concerned.
Brian's on a phone line four oh two, five five,
eight eleven ten. Thanks for holding Brian. What's on your
mind today?

Speaker 16 (01:05:14):
Well, good afternoon. I'm very long time. No take calls
on political controversies.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
A For the record, Brian, it's not me not wanting
to take calls. It's just we were in a situation
of transition with myself producing. I can't screen my own
calls when I'm producing, and we also are training a
new producer, and Peyton is doing a very good job.
I was not opening the phone lines because we were
in the process of transition. Now the phone lines are
open because we're good to go.

Speaker 16 (01:05:38):
For the record, Oh I see, I thought maybe it changed. Well,
fantastic anyway, First to fact check on chance sick. When
Trump asked for the National Guard, that was several days
ahead of the event, and he was asking for the
National Guard to protect his own rally and polus. He
told him, you don't need national Guard to protect your

(01:05:59):
own There's no talk of protecting the Capitol because there's
no plans officially.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
To go to the Capitol.

Speaker 16 (01:06:06):
The only thing happening at the Capitol was proud of
going up the ste Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Well, well you can keep saying this stuff. But Pelosi
still could have, under any circumstance, made sure that there
was some protection in place. She invited any type of
activity to come to the footstep of the Capitol simply
because she wanted to see what it was like. And

(01:06:33):
certainly what we've seen in the thereafter is to weaponize
that against Republicans for gosh, four and a half years
now is like this huge black mark when all that
they did was decide to put a few police officers there,
and you know, these metal barricades that were easily removed.
She could have absolutely if with any judgment. She had
been in Washington since before I was born. She knew

(01:06:55):
that there was some risk at the Capitol and in Washington,
d C. With the kind of crowd that was going
to either, and she denied wanting any type of of
National Guard presence there to keep things calm instead welcoming
the chaos. So I'm not even here for that argument,
But keep going.

Speaker 16 (01:07:11):
There was nothing to the capital.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
They were right next to the capital, Brian, They were
right next to it. Are you telling me that people
couldn't just walk from where this was to the Capitol
and create some problems? Have you been to Washington, D C?
It is a short walk from where that that rally
was taking place. I don't need to hear that stuff it.

Speaker 16 (01:07:28):
Yeah, maybe she should have anticipated that when he asked
for the guard to protect his own rally, that maybe
they could have protected the Capitol.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah, what was he protecting his own rally from anyway? Brian? Like,
let's think about this, like what was threatening the rally?

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 16 (01:07:43):
Second thing, the probably is the one that the capital
sets in the stack formations through the doors that wasn't
organized by the FBI or the government or the whole
thing that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
We really still just talking about jan six here, Like
like we had this huge No King's rally. We spent
two hours talking to people on the phone lines, Brian
about No Kings and all this stuff that has happened
over the last four and a half years, and you're
still trying to debunk the information that we're learning every
single day about what happened January sixth, twenty twenty one.
Like that's seriously what you called didn't talk to me about?

Speaker 16 (01:08:14):
Well, I just heard you spreading some bunks, so I
figured it needed debunking anyway, Okay, getting onto the next thing.
You know what I call you sometimes do a disclaimer
that we're never going to agree on anything.

Speaker 11 (01:08:24):
Yeah, but you know we do.

Speaker 16 (01:08:26):
Agree on some controversies, things that are thought to be
controversial anyway, Like I think it's unfair for you know,
men living as women to play against the women and
women's sports, Okay, but I also think that it's a
better world where people can live as the opposite sex
and not be hassled for it. Like if Chas Bono
were to go into in Nebraska bathroom. Governor Pillen would

(01:08:47):
have you know, people take some rough action there, and
I think they'd be embarrassed to find out that she
was born Chastity Bono, pretty Sunni and Shaff's Arlie Burley.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Now, yeah, you know, are we supposed to understand that reference? Anyway?

Speaker 16 (01:09:00):
Keep going, Brian, Okay, as far as this course, every
weeknight I hear syndicated hosts say that the Democrats are communists.
Doesn't say why, uh, you know, says the communists are evil.
He's a Stallen as an example, and then tells a
story from ancient history or the Old Testament where the
good people killed all the evil people down to every

(01:09:22):
last man, woman and child, and he says, that's what
you gotta do. You know, I'm not communist or a demon,
which I haven't heard democrats call. I don't know any communists.
What I actually believe in is that we should have
a reason with a good level of public services, protections
and benefits paid forth through a system of taxation. People

(01:09:45):
pay at a higher rate than the port All right, well,
in the past from conservatives, would you know, debate what
the rate you should have or just what level of
services you have.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
But anymore, Ryan ran I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
I got like I'm running out of time, man, you
like to open up the Democrat manifest and just like
read it to us when we know what democrats stand
for and we know you to be one. Like I
appreciate the time and energy, but like, what does that
have to do with King's Day or no King's Day?

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
And the protest?

Speaker 16 (01:10:10):
Somebody a king or a dictator? Someone called him and said, well,
if was really a king, we couldn't have three people
get together for coffee. And other's dictatorships where that's happened.
What makes the person a king or a dictator is
when they ignore the law and the constitution and say
catch me if you can to the courts, on tariffs,
on the firings, on shutting down agencies, all this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Stuff has been done by other people before in different ways.
Maybe not as a liberation day, but like the enforcement
of ice and what he's attempting to do with the
National Guard, Like things like this have happened in American history, Brian, Like,
this is not like a Donald Trump just invented these ideas,
Like these these things have happened before.

Speaker 16 (01:10:49):
I just think he takes the car beyond anyone before,
and his acting as a dictator when the king was
above the law, and the fans cheered on they say, yeah,
go ahead and break the law.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Go ahead, and the Bryan Brian, I'm I gotta, I
gotta go, I gotta, I got another, Like, you know,
it's not it's just not constructive. I don't know, I
don't even know what we're talking about, Like what are
we even talking about? And we have Edith on the
line to keep the conversation going on eleven and kfa
B Edith, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
Hi, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:11:21):
I just want to say I thought the deal Saturday
or whatever day it was, was about the most stupid
things that could go on. For one thing, why weren't
those people working don't even have jobs that made it
as at their livelihood. And I thought, you know, I
think they're just bluhooing because they just still can't believe

(01:11:42):
that President Trump was elected as our new president. And
and it's just hard and they just can't shut up.
I think they all need to go stick their heads
and a hole in the ground somewhere and and and
I listen, don't don't let me get started because you know,
and I blame the media. It's not KFAB. I love

(01:12:03):
your station, but those late night talk show hosts and
that view program. I mean, I can't imagine him allowing
him to even be on the radio on TV. So
I just want to say, but I thought that King song.
We have never had a president that has accomplished as
much as our president does right now. I can't. I
just can't believe by those idiots are finding so many

(01:12:26):
things to fall well, and I think he's doing a super.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Yeah, and Edith, I do appreciate you calling in. Thank
you so much for listening. And I'll say the phone
number slower because I apparently I say it really fast.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
I apologize. I'm glad you got it though, Okay, okay,
thank you, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Edith told me when I answered the phone that she had.
Edith said, I said, I talked too fast when I
give the phone numbers, so.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
She got the number.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Look, and I don't want to get into the whole
Trump is the most, you know, the best president we've
ever had in all that stuff. Time is going to
tell on that that's not really the point. The point is,
you know, and even if they had jobs, maybe they
had Saturday off and they want to do that. I
don't want to tell people what to do with their time,
but it was a beautiful October day. The last thing
I was gonna do, no matter how I felt about anything,
was to carry around a cardboard sign yelling at people

(01:13:14):
who obviously have better things to do with themselves than
to listen to me gripe about the president of the
United States. The only reason I'm there is to, you know,
find people that agree with me politically, and even then,
it's just like, what would even get me to want
to do that. It's I can't think of anything, honestly.
Let's say Karen, real quick, Karen, thank you for being
on our show today. Welcome to the Emory Songer Show.

(01:13:36):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 21 (01:13:38):
Oh, thank you for taking my call. I just want
to get my opinion on the king thing. Stupid. They
called him a Nazi, they called him Hitler. Now it's
a king. What's going to be next? What's next?

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
H I mean, what god like? Would they call him God?
I mean, that's derogatory to Christians and stuff. I mean,
what what what even like? How do you even go
up from here? But that's the thing Karen, like you
kind of mentioned there. They they found a good name
for their rally, so there's going to be more of them.
They're like, oh, this No Kings.

Speaker 21 (01:14:17):
Things that somebody in a basement on a computer.

Speaker 23 (01:14:21):
What.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
I have no idea, But when the first one popped up.
When the first one popped up in June, I was
just like, actually, that's got to catch a name to it.
People who you know, a college student or an old person,
they're like, Hey, that's a cool thing to be a
part of this No King's thing. And guess what, they
already have done a second one. Just give it a
couple of months. They're going to come up with a
third one somewhere and then they'll just keep doing it
because they know people will show up because it's a

(01:14:42):
cool name.

Speaker 21 (01:14:44):
They have nothing else to do with their time, Why
don't they go volunteer at a dog shelter, a women's
shelter or something like that. You know, go do that.
Don't and we wouldn't we wouldn't have all this problem.
Yeah with the ice, people don't do no ice. If
Biden had let millions of people into the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Country, Yeah, that's it's a good point too. But that's
the other thing. It's all politics, Karen. It's not about
making sense. It's about which team is in charge.

Speaker 21 (01:15:08):
So I don't understand that. I mean, in my family,
I'm kind of the one out. You know, my brother
who went to college. I asked him, I said, did
you learn all that there?

Speaker 15 (01:15:19):
Is?

Speaker 17 (01:15:19):
That?

Speaker 21 (01:15:19):
What it is? He's always thought he was smarter than me.
I don't think he is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Hey, hey, Karen, you guys, your vote counts the same,
no matter how much smarter he thinks he is. And
I went to college, and I think I'm a I
think I'm kind of dumb too a lot of the time.
But you know what, it's not per requisite to be
smart and go to college. I don't think I appreciate
the call, Karen, have a good day.

Speaker 21 (01:15:39):
Okay, bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Joy is on the line. Joy, thanks for holding and
being on our show today. What do you think about
all this?

Speaker 23 (01:15:44):
You know, I didn't see what they I heard about
the protest. I didn't watch any of it. I thought
the minute I heard it, oh my gosh, they're all stupid.
But so I didn't even plug into it. But you know,
I feel like the average Americans in the United States

(01:16:06):
does not understand what Trump is up against him, what
he is fighting. A lot of people don't realize that
this country was run on tariffs before the nineteen hundreds. Yep,
that's what our country before. We had income taxes, before
we were charged all these taxes. Yep, our country was
funded by tariffs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Yeah, but they don't read books.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
It's not as fun to read books as it is
to make a little sign and go stand on the
side of a road and yellow people.

Speaker 23 (01:16:32):
Well, you know what. To me, those people are fools.
And I also have run into many people. You just
can't talk to him.

Speaker 14 (01:16:43):
You have to walk away.

Speaker 23 (01:16:44):
They have their mind made up. They have listened to
the channels that talk against Trump, and they believe it.
And I've known my heart that Trump has got our
best interest at heart. He can't tell us everything that's
going on because if he does, they'll they'll tear him

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to the ground.

Speaker 17 (01:17:05):
They'll try try to stop it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
And for whatever it's worth, joy, it's we're never going
to have a president or any leader that everybody agrees with.
But I think the biggest you know thing in to
me as I look at it from you know, the
cheap seats here in Omaha, I just I wonder why.
Maybe he was too famous, right, Maybe that has something
to do with it. He was already so famous that

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when he got into politics, people already felt like they
knew him and they I don't think.

Speaker 23 (01:17:32):
That has anything to do it. Well, I think it's
all because he is trying to write something that goes
clear back into our statehood of our country, and he
knows what happened, he knows the way it was, and
the average person doesn't understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Yeah, well, I appreciate it.

Speaker 23 (01:17:50):
They have no clue that they're fighting against something that
we need to go back to ye before they all
took over our country.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
And I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Joyce thinking, yeah, thanks, thanks to the call, joy I
appreciate you listening to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
And just to clarify, and she's it's fine that she
disagrees with me. When you have somebody that polarizing, who
already had people hate or love him for one reason
or another based on his entire portfolio of what he
had done in his entire life, it was going to
always be a real, you know, kind of gasoline filled

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political situation. And I don't agree with everything he does
on social media and the way that he makes these
videos now with the AI and puts them out there,
and he's doing it to poke the other side. And
I get it, But Joey is one hundred percent correct
that people don't understand what the job entails and what
he's attempting to do. The people who are at these

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no Kings, rallies and protests, they just have they need
something to do to make themselves feel good, and it
makes them feel good protesting against Donald Trump. You know,
what are they going to protest next? I mean, obviously
we saw plenty of ICE operations are probably going to protest.
Let's look at what's You know that these are the
same people that protested against Israel, and you know now

(01:19:07):
that that war hopefully is coming to an end. You know,
you had all the rigmarole over the weekend. But if
we are still getting and on pace to get to
a point of the end of that conflict, they can't
protest that anymore. They'll find something in it like antifa, right,
It's like it means anti fascism or anti fascists or whatever.

(01:19:29):
But they literally all they do is try to create
chaos and these major communities, that's what they're there for.
They're not there to make anything better. They're not there
to educate people. They're literally there just to stand up
and create chaos because they don't have anything else better
to do. They aren't the first people to do that.
That kind of thing has been happening in countries like

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the United States for a long time. Our rules allow
for that freedom of speech until you start damaging property
or you start harming people. But you want to know
what I think. I think that these people just need
a better hobby and they're not interested in real information.
They just really find it enjoyable to be angry at
Donald Trump. It gives their life a purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
I don't know what else to tell you, because it
doesn't make sense because everything that they are protesting against,
it just isn't happening. Brad is on the phone line
four h two, five five, eight eleven ten. Welcome in, Brad,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 10 (01:20:23):
Thank you for taking my call. I'm actually going to
take on the other side. I was there at the
No King's protest this weekend here in Omaha, Okay, and
to be candid, the only act of violence that I
saw was an antagonist with a Trump van sign that
drove by the road and then turned into a protester
and actually hit them. There was some yelling that happened,

(01:20:44):
and that person proceeded to leave. I'm willing to open
thoughts on why why I might have been out there
other individuals, but to tackle at heart, I think the
ice issue that sits really close to me is the
idea that we are still missing eight hundred and two
one thousand detailed eased from Alligator Alcatraz, and I'll be
hurt if we have that same outcome down with a

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thousand people missing in the state of Nebraska who we
want to say are following the laws and the rules,
which again, we are not arresting.

Speaker 17 (01:21:13):
The worst of the worst.

Speaker 10 (01:21:14):
The data is out there, and I'm really struggling to
come to terms of that balance of are we arresting
the worst? There's truth and everything out there. There's truth
that we should have a better process and a migration system,
but it really is a struggle when seventy percent of
these arrests are against people who have only entered the
country illegally. We are not arresting the worst of the worst.
They're not deporting these individuals of heinous crimes, Obama deported

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more individuals. So I think that's my two cents that
I've got that right now, there is a structure, and
I find author terrarianism is encroaching, freedom of speech is
being stepped on, And the question now sits. Am I
labeled Antifa for going there? And then do I have
to process?

Speaker 19 (01:21:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Now, Brad, I'm totally picking up you're putting down, and
I do appreciate you calling in today. I want to
make it very clear from where I'm sitting that there
needs to be some determinationists to chaos creators and people
who literally are just trying to speak their minds and
to have a voice. I think, and I would say

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this for pretty much all of the seven million people
who were out there. I didn't hear much of any
violence at these rallies. So I hope that I'm not
overarching this entire thing as some sort of violent Antifa thing.
That's not what it is, and I don't think it
should be characterized as such, and you shouldn't be, you know,
labeled Antifa because even though Antifa kind of exists, and

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we know that there are some organizers that create chaos
in some of these large cities like Portland, for instance,
that isn't something that we've actually seen a lot of
here thankfully. To this point, as far as what you
said about illegal aliens and trying to deport people, I
understand what was said in trying to arrest, detain, and

(01:22:58):
deport the worst of the worst at the same time
people who are taking advantage of the United States and
the loopholes in our process, which again I agree with
you that we need to figure out a better way.
We still have rules, we still need to enforce those rules.
Even the people that were in Omaha at that food

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place that were detained in June, that's like eighty five
people brad that were operating under false identities that they
had stolen from someone else. So that there are victims
to that they shouldn't be here. And if like what
would I rather have them be detained and put into
our jail system and our taxpayer dollars keeps them in

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jail and keeps them healthy and happy in prison because
they mess with our laws, or should they get deported
back to where they came and have their country to
deal with that. They should be deported to their country.
And so I think most Americans who voted Donald Trump
in saw that as a real problem that they wanted
to be resolved, and yes, I'm with you. The messaging

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was it was going to be worse of the worst
that we were going to take care of first. But
I say, if anybody's an illegal alien and they knowingly
came here and broke our laws, they shouldn't be here
and they shouldn't be taking advantage of our system, our
tax paying dollars, and potentially stealing the identity of people
that are here legally.

Speaker 10 (01:24:23):
I would like to see these employers. Honestly, I don't
know why we're not seeing these employers of illegal immigrants
SID being tagged or assaulted or put in jail or fined.
I find that to be the craziest part on that,
and maybe we could agree on both that. I think
that what they're doing in Chicago puto body cameras so
that we know that these ICE agents who are acting
as police officers, should at least be held accountable for

(01:24:45):
their actions because we have seen individuals. I mean, I
don't want a cop to stop me on the side
of the road and say where are your papers? Who
do you know here? What are you doing here? This
isn't some good town in the south, right. I mean,
I think that there should be a call to unmask
these individuals have some more bodies, cameras, put them through
the proper training. But let's also be honest with ourselves
that seventy percent of the one hundred thousand DE fourties

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so far have only entered Their only conviction is the
civil liability of entering the United States illegally.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Well, let's still break out of rule, Brad.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
But I will say that I think we could do
better in the way that the ICE officials are being
trained and the accountability that they may be able to face.
I do think that that would be something I would
meet in the middle on. I do appreciate the call
I have to hit a break. Thanks so much for
listening to us.