Oregon Sues Trump Over Troop Deployment

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Another thing that we're paying attention to is Donald Trump's
administration trying to deploy the National Guard into blue cities,
even in blue states like Chicago, Illinois, Portland, Oregon. And
what does this look like? Why do they keep saying no?
And now the state of Oregon is suing Donald Trump?
Interesting stuff. Well, joining us to talk about it is
a political analyst, a speaking coach, and host of The

(00:21):
Daily Truth, Anthony Russo, joining us on the phone line, Anthony,
how you doing today? I'm doing great. There was a
lot of talk after the Washington d C deployment a
couple of months ago as to what was going to happen,
not just with Washington, but is this the only place
that Donald Trump is going to try to clean up crime.
We've seen a lot of positivity, even from Uriel Bowser,

(00:42):
the Democrat who's the mayor in Washington, saying, actually, this
has been actually very good for our community. Yet blue states,
blue cities have really pushed back on Donald Trump wanting
to send troops there, Portland being the latest. What can
you tell us about what this situation has looked like
and why Donald Trump decided to Portland was a spot
he needed this and troops too.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
He staked his ground in Portland, Chicago and Memphis being
the next set of places that he wanted to clean up.
And these are not just blue cities. These are obviously
super blue cities. These are the ones that aren't just
a sixty forty split. They're even higher than that. And
the crime rates are incredibly high. The one thing that's
unique about Portland is it's not just gang related. It's

(01:22):
actually very little. It's little to gang related. It's just
widespread crime all the way from Antifa doing rioting and
looting to yes, the gang element. And then also the
fact that there really isn't any like all right, this
this neighborhood is safe, This neighborhood is not. It's just
very widespread. So it's a great location to actually put

(01:44):
what Trump did in DC to the test in a
different location. But unfortunately, as we know, anything Trump is bad,
no matter if even if it's good for the health
of the citizens. So at this point they're pushing back.
It's a a I believe it's at the district court level,
and Trump's triaging, keep pushing it until it gets up
to the they get it to the Supreme Court, and
at that point, he'll probably back off. He's also made

(02:06):
some statements that sound like he's backing off in the
sense of, hey, I'm going by what I see on
TV and it doesn't look good. Maybe I'm getting batter reports.
That might have been his way of taking his foot
off the guests pat of like, hey, if you don't
want my help, I don't know what else to do
at this point.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah. They Chicago, especially has you know, with their leadership
at the state level and the city level, have said
we got this under control, and we're actually seeing quite
a bit of improvement. Portland is saying, hey, we've only
had you know, a few arrests for anything over the
last you know, several days or a couple of weeks

(02:42):
and all this stuff. But we heard all that same
stuff from Washington, and that just it wasn't true. You know,
these places are coming up with different numbers than we
can trust. How would anyone actually know, because like, like
I mean, He's right, what you're seeing on TV makes
it seem like this is all this city is all about.

(03:03):
What can we do to know exactly what's happening? There
is there any way to do that without having to
listen to the fake numbers or the numbers that are
just being you know, kind of spewed out by a
local leadership who doesn't want Trump's help.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
You know, it's funny. I mean, it's like we've turned
Portland into Gaza, like we don't really know we hear things.
It is still in the United States of America. You
don't have to take an international flight to get there.
But it's it's it's such a one side of the
media says it's horrific. The other side says, oh, it's
not that bad, and the statistics are are a little

(03:39):
bit confusing. Chicago. Why I think, and this is just
me speculating, why I think he'll dial back his need
to do stuff in Portland is because Portland is kind
of one of those cities that doesn't really matter. It
doesn't matter on a national stage. It's all that state
and that city is already going to be completely blue.
There's not much that can be done there. But Chicago, however,

(04:02):
is a city that will get national attention leading into
the bit terms. I think he's going to focus more
on Chicago and making sure they start to they continue
to get stuff done there to try to fix the crime.
I also think the crime is probably a little bit
more gang related there, so it's it's a little bit
easier to target certain areas and certain neighborhoods and try
to fix that up. I think Portland is one of

(04:23):
those ones he might consider a lost cause because he
doesn't we don't know. We should know. It's in the
United States. We should be able to get some fair,
fair reporting, fair accounting, fair numbers. But the videos we
see aren't good, and it's like video can't lie at
this point until AI is going to confuse us even more.
But I think that this is why we're probably going

(04:44):
to be seeing him focus more on Chicago.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Anthony Russo is joining us. He's a political analyst. I
look at this as a kind of a study of
the United States and all of the You have the
Louisiana governor saying we'd love your help bring bring the
the troops to New Orleans. You have the Tennessee. You know,
it's like, hey, Memphis is here. These are blue cities
in red states. You've got the blue versus blue situation

(05:09):
that you're seeing in some of these other places, Illinois
and Chicago being one of them. And it's a huge
pushback on Donald Trump, and again, no matter what he
would be offering or what he would be doing, they
would never give him a win and they would never
try to work with him actively. But this trying to
clean this up for crime related purposes, and you mentioned
the midterms for next year. How much of this is

(05:33):
performative on both sides, both from the people who are
leadership in these cities in these states that are pushing back,
and also from Donald Trump basically saying I'm attempting to
resolve crime in this country and your Democrat leaders do
not want to help me. Is it performative or do
you really think that there is something here that can

(05:55):
be a permanent solution to crime in these places like
Chicago or Memphis or New or Well.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, I'm going to tell you that from the Democrat side,
and this is from a recovering Democrat or the Democrat
most of my life up until about ten years ago.
From the Democrat side, there's no other way to look
at it besides performative. If you've got citizens that are
innocent at risk, you have to do everything you can
to pull out the stops to fix it. So it's
a political bargaining chip. As for Trump. It's both. It's

(06:22):
performative because well it does it makes it look good
on in the current administration if they fix crime. But
at the same time, if you're actually fixing a problem,
then it's not just performative. And for the long term,
the idea is to show if you're tough on crime,
if you almost militarize a highly crime ritled city, much

(06:44):
like Giuliani did with New York back when he cleaned
up the crime there. When you militarize something to a
point for a short period of time and then let
certain standards stay there in terms of not being soft
on criminal, soft on crime, letting repeat defenders get back
in the street, it can create a lasting effect for
a long period of time. So I think it's a

(07:04):
little bit of both on the Republican side, and I
think it's an important step to take because it will
help for voting, but it also will help innocent people.
I like to reference that dad that was speaking out yesterday.
I still don't know what state that was in. The
dad that lost his twenty two year old daughter to
a criminal that had been in and out of prison
and then out of jail, and it had thirty nine
priors and should have been locked out for life. So

(07:25):
it's like, if we can protect the innocent, shouldn't that
be the goal. It's not about equity, it's about if
a criminal is a criminal, we treat them as such,
and we protect the innocent. So I think that the Conservatives,
the Republican side, has a great has a great argument
that will help them in the midterms, as long as
they find a way.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
To fix it. Okay, last thing for you, Anthony, the biggest,
bigger picture here. You know, we're obviously still a full
year away from midterms, but like you mentioned, trying to
make people as safe as possible. Donald Trump has got
a lot on his plate. This is certainly something that
he's talked about after the Washington DC situation for the
better part of four to six weeks. What do you

(08:06):
anticipate actually being the next step. Are we going to
be stuck kind of in this court battle for a
while or is there something including a city in say Louisiana,
where the governor is pining to get some of that help.
Is there something that we'll be able to see more
examples of the National Guard getting into cities and trying
to help clean up crime.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Again, this is totally speculative, but I do think I
think he's going to focus on the areas that are
going to get the most pressed, which is the performative
side Chicago, and if he's got the opportunity to do
it with a governor's blessing like in Louisiana, I think
that that you brought it up, I think it'll be
the logical next step. I think that'll be the place

(08:47):
that he can cover the most ground, show the actual
positives of that, I guess called a national guard sweep
of some sense. I think that's what he's going to
be doing.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
We're going to find out. We're gonna wait and see
political analysts and speaking coach host of The Daily Truth,
Anthony Russo, thank you so much for being on the show, Anthony,
and have a great day you too,