Pete Rose's Baseball Legacy

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Kim bab Mtumba of course an NBA player. Pretty
unique is he, like on the level of unique scale.
I mean, nobody's going to call him one of the
greatest basketball players ever. He's certainly one of the best
shot blockers ever. But he's a pretty iconic figure in
basketball to the point where, you know, fifteen twenty years
after his career was over, he was doing commercials still,

(00:20):
you know, like showing up going ah with his finger
wag and stuff. Right, had that great voice too, very
unique gravity voice with the African accent. Like just I
just love everything he did. And he was such a
great representative for I think it was the Democratic Republic
of the Congo. And he spent a ton of resources,
very philanthropic with his resources, helping build schools and hospitals

(00:45):
and remote places in Africa. And he passed away after
brain camp. I didn't even know he had brain cancer,
but brain cancer only fifty eight years old. Yeah, really sad,
but certainly a character that he's a name. Again, there
are a few names of guys that know no but
he's going to consider the greatest players of all time
and anything. But there are some players in that conversation

(01:06):
that are still going to stick out as part of
the zeitgeist of their era. I feel like Matumbo is
certainly one of those. Like if you watch basketball in
the nineties or early two thousands, you were very aware
of the kempe Mtumbo and just seeing some of the
highlights people are putting out there. Just he's something else
he could show. He could be uh, he could block
some shots. Yeah, I mean, if it wasn't for Waymen Yama. Now,

(01:28):
I mean you could make the argument maybe the best
defensive center outside of a Loadjawan.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
There's other people that could go on that list. My
first place I go is the undersized Ben Wallace. Great,
I mean Rodman too, Nah, but I mean he was
more of a power forward Rodman.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
But yeah, but still if we're sticking with center, okay,
all right, if we're sticking with center, I mean Ben
Wallace is like a six ' nine center, right, yeah, yeah,
But anyway, rest in peace to him, Pete Rose. Last night,
Charlie Hustle and Link opens back that debate who should
should he be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I listened to an interview.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I don't and I don't want to dance on his
grave here but this is the conversation that is being
had now that he's gone.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I heard Johnny Bench talk about it this morning. It's
just heartbreaking to hear how heartbroken he was, but also
how angry he was that he knew that that was
going to be what we talked about more than anything else.
And it was interesting because he was heartbroken but also
kind of angry at Pete that there wasn't a better
resolution to this story while he was still with us,

(02:32):
and that was just, you know, Hall of Famer Johnny Bench,
longtime teammate of Pete Rose, Johnny Bench and.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
All time good gad too. Yeah, Catcher, right, Yeah, So
should he be in the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I think yes. I think it's I'm going to steal
this opinion from someone else, but it's definitely the one
I agree with. The Hall of Fame's a museum and
he belongs in it. He's a part of the history
of baseball, a significant part. He's one of the greatest
who've ever played. But we're calling it like you have
to be inducted in the Hall of Fame. Now, you
can't tell baseball history without p Rose, just like you

(03:04):
can't tell baseball history without somebody like Shoeolis Joe Jackson,
who's also banned from the Hall of Fame forever. I'm
actually a hard no on the Hall of Fame. I
think for both of them.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
There's one thing they tell you cannot do or be
associated with. Pete did it. He obviously did it. He
admitted to doing it, And I mean, who should be
first in the Hall of Fame him?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Were Barry Bonds? Right?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, the transgression Barry Bonds is accused of is something
that most of his contemporaries were doing at the same time.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I know, but one impact of their performance the other didn't.
What do you mean it didn't, I say, Pete before Barry.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I just think if you gamble on the game, you
have ruined the integrity of the sport in your effort.
Guys juicing, I know they're trying hard, and when everybody's juicing,
you better juice to keep up. That's all I'm saying.
Put Barry Bonds in the Hall of Fame before put
Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame. The unfortunate debate
that is just going to exist in that realm is

(04:07):
now that he's gone, there's going to be this conversation
of should Pete roseby in the Hall of Fame. Of course,
for those who are unfamiliar with why he's not, it's
because he's he was in that he broke maybe the
most important rule of baseball, which is don't bet on baseball.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Now, it sounds like we have a talkback of somebody
who wants to kind of push back up against me
for how I approach this conversation.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, Jay in the talkback disagrees a little bit. All right,
let's hear what the Jans is saying.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Hey, Amory, John here do some research. Allegedly, Pete Rose
never bet on his own team that he was playing in,
so he was betting on other games and other players.
So I'm not seeing where that's a big issue personally.
Love the show. Hopefully it all works out. But Pete

(05:00):
Rose into the Hall of Fame one of the best
players in a long time.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
All right, and that's fair. And he called himself John.
But here's here, here's I'm kind of a baseball historian,
not like super serious, but I love baseball history. There
are interviews where Pete Rose says, specifically, he bet on
the Reds to win, so he was betting on games
in which his team was playing. He was doing it

(05:28):
when he was the manager of the team. He had
been warned about this. It sounds like they had kind
of dug around in there and he wouldn't stop. Now
you could tell me, and this is kind of I
think where you're at, right, that he didn't bet on
his team to lose. Yeah, he bet on his team
to win. And you would say, Okay, that's even better. Right,

(05:52):
what's the problem with that? I see the problem.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
But there's a.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Big problem with that. It ruins the intail, hey gritty
of the sport. Calvin Ridley. Did you see what happened
to Calvin Ridley? He bet a thousand dollars. He's a
wide receiver in the NFL. He's playing for the Atlanta Falcons.
He got injured while he was at home. He made
some bets on NFL games, not even ones the Falcons
were playing it. He was betting on other games, just

(06:17):
like a thousand bucks. This guy makes millions of dollars,
but he was just doing it for fun. The NFL
found out about it suspended him for a year. This
is you cannot bet on games because then what does
he do he's texting his buddies just like, Hey, I
need this or that or the other thing. Remember John
Tay Carter or John Tay Porter. Sorry, yeah, NBA guy

(06:37):
from earlier this year, he was taking his own stats.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
That's a rough one.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
You're opening the door for all of this just to
be okay. And now that sports betting is legalized, Man
p Rose would make a killing right being like a
guy who could sponsor or be an endorser of this.
But when you're attached to a team, you're attached to
an organization, you're a player or you're a coach, cannot
bet on the game. It is in the rules.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
They have been They've.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Been putting people in, banning them for life, for generations
since the very beginning. You can go ahead and go back.
There's a guy named Jim Devlin. He was a great
pitcher in like the eighteen seventies and eighties. Jim Devlin.
Have you heard of Jim Devlin? Not many have. It
doesn't ring a bell, Jim Devlin. Jim Devlin. I'm gonna

(07:28):
get the year correct here. I'm gonna pull this up.
Jim Devlin was a great pitcher in the eighteen seventies,
but he admitted to throwing games I got in front
of me, costing the Louisville Grays the pennant in the
eighteen seventy seven Louisville Grays scandal, and three and three
of his teammates and himself banned permanently from baseball in

(07:48):
eighteen seventy seven. He begged and pleaded to come back
after he took this money from gamblers, and he's written letters.
They have a lot of letters. You can like, look
some of this stuff up. It's really heartbreaking. But here's
what the response was by National League president William Hulbert
in the late eighteen seventies, as he begged to get

(08:09):
back into baseball. He said, this is what I think
of you personally, Jim giving him a fifty dollars bill
and said, but damn you, you have thrown a game.
You are dishonest, and this National League will not stand
for it. Said he couldn't trust him. Can I can

(08:31):
I least explain my side of it? By the way,
quick epilogue here. Jim Devlin ends up going poor dies
at age thirty four in eighteen eighty three from tuberculosis.
That's rough, not great, not great, but even in the
eighteen seventies, banned for life.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
All right, now, go ahead, sorry, I'm I'm okay with
the band. Like Pete Rose, being banned from baseball makes
sense to me because he violated the purity of the sport,
and you kind of have to do that to send
a message to everybody else. If you do this, you're
gone forever. Correct to me, the Hall of Fame is
a different story. He was one of the greatest baseball

(09:13):
players of all time, okay, and that's indisputable. I mean,
he's c stop fifty.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Probably he owns a ton of records, but a lot
of that's lon chevity, I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I mean he was. He was hitting one hundred and
ninety hits a season. Nowadays people are hitting one seventy
and being celebrated. He was doing one ninety for like
what a decade plus. Yeah, he is betting average over
three hundred. Yeah, he's amazing.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I mean, I just look at his stat It's a hustle, right,
Like he played the game one hundred and ten percent.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
So to me, I just in the spirit of looking
at the Hall of Fame as a museum, he belongs
in it. I think he belongs in it more than
Barry Bonds, because Barry Bonds got to it, arguably by
doing something that enhanced his performance. But then again, there's
the p li's dilemma. Didn't everybody else during that time
frame two? So what are we just gonna put all

(10:05):
of them in or none of them in? I don't know.
I tend to err on the side of like just
letting them all in and explaining it well for the audience,
because that's who this is for.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Era.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
The museum is for the children who are going through
this learning about history era to era.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
You have to compare like the statistics put up by
Pete Rose in his era. He's he's a great baseball player.
He's really really strong. You can make the argument he
wasn't even the best player on a lot of those
Reds teams though, would you say, Johnny Bench, he's up there,
Joe Morgan got to throw in you know, man, that
was a good team. Uh, conception owns really really strong there.

(10:44):
I mean that the Big Red Machine is a great team. Right,
You can make the argument he's not even the most
important player on that team. His longevity is incredible. The
way he played the game unforgettable, Okay era to era,
though Bonds in his era still was the greatest player
when everybody.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Was doing it.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Compare Babe Ruth to the guys in his era. There's
not a bigger outlier in baseball history than that guy.
And that goes for Otani too, who's catching up he is.
What I'm saying is, if we're talking about Hall of
Fame for talking about honoring somebody for their performance and
for whatever it's worth, he Rose is in the Cincinnati

(11:26):
Reds Hall of Fame and they have a ton of
his stuff all over that museum, as they should. They
have a statue of him sliding headfirst into third base
outside of their ballpark. They have celebrated him despite all
of this banning from baseball and all this stuff. But
if you're trying to achieve the highest honor of the sport,
you cannot be disgraced from said sport. And if we're
going to disgrace every single person who ever ever existed

(11:49):
that bet on baseball, whether they bet on their team
to win or lose, bet on any team while they
were an active player or manager or owner for that matter,
then we can't just let a guy in because he
was a memorable cat. That's all I'm saying. And if
you're gonna do it now after he's dead, what was
the point? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. What was

(12:09):
the point? Yeah, we have it's over with. You could
reconcile it while he was alive. Don't be doing it
just to be always sad that he's gone. Now, let's
you know right this wrong?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
She was Joe Jackson's grant great grandchildren get on the phone.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Now. Is that a bad look if they put Pete
in now? Yes?

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Able, Look I think so too. But Rob Manfred hasn't
cared about how good stuff looks. He's been destroying baseball
one thing at a time for the last ten years.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I Meanwhile, there's a game going on that started what
at one o'clock today.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Sixth inning. By the way, Tiger's leading the Astros three.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Nothing, that's great news. There you go. The time of
the game's not great, but the score of the game.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Game two has already started two huh, Kansas City at Baltimore.
They just got going. So there you go. There's two
baseball games going. A third one will start at four
to thirty today.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
It's October. That means night baseball. To me, we have
more night baseball.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Guess what the late game tonight San Diego hosting Atlanta
seven thirty Central Time. That's five thirty San Diego time.
You could have pushed that to nine pm. Oh absolutely,
these games aren't lasting five hours anymore.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
What are we doing here? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
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Speaker 1 (13:28):
Really you got something on this Pete Rose conversation we're having.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah, Emory, you're right on about the You're right on
about the Hall of Fame. Just drop it. Tell me
why did they have his memorabilia in there? Why did
they have his bat in his ball? A bunch of hypocrits.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, it's a it's a good question, Merle And I
guess my biggest thing is I think, to Matt's point,
the Hall of Fame kind of serves as a physical
museum while also being kind of this like, the Hall
of Fame is not necessarily needing to be physic as
much as it's just like a list of names. Who
these are the people that we think have achieved the

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greatest achievements in baseball history.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Right, he's not in that. He's not in that thing.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
But as far as the museum is concerned, they have
all sorts of stuff from like all sorts of different players, right,
Like you know, I was using the example like Scott
at Sednik. He's the guy who played for my favorite team,
the White Sox, and hit a walk off home run
in Game two of the two thousand and five World Series.
It's an incredible moment from a guy who didn't hit
a lot of home runs. So the World Series or sorry,
the Hall of Fame took his bat, and his bat

(14:33):
is displayed from that home run in Cooperstown. Now, Scott
is setting is not a Hall of Fame player by
any means, and is pretty forgettable unless you're a White
Sox fan like me. But he's you know, the memorabilia
there is kind of important to show, like, hey, this
is that bat, and it's like, wow, look at that.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
It's that bad, you know, you go.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I went to the Prado Museum, right, like that crazy
museum with a ton of art, right, and to me,
a lot of the arts just kind of like what
the heck am I even looking at sort of thing.
But then you're like, oh, yeah, this was painted in
twelve fifty and you know, somewhere in the Netherlands, and
you're like, oh wow, that's crazy twelve fifty. And I
think there's like two aspects to this Hall of Fame

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kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
So you're right. I mean, it is weird.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
They seem like hypocrites, but I think the museum kind
of functions a little differently than actually inducting people into
the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
So let's celebrate the things versus the person. Then, huh
is that what they're saying?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I guess so I think that's a I think that's
a good way to say it. There, Merle, I appreciate
you calling it.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Man, you bet.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Let's go to Adam. Adam, welcome to the show today.
What do you think about all this?

Speaker 5 (15:42):
So, yeah, before each game, the MLB is doing a
special ceremony for Pete Rose and it's sponsored by MGM
and DraftKings.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
No they aren't. You made that up?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah I did, Like I kind of like, you know,
I kind of actually could think, you know, actually that
that can actually happen now, But oh, I mean, just cow.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
At any game you watch tonight, if you watch any
baseball count how many bet MGM or drafting commercials, or
or any other online casino gambling.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Stuff that you're gonna see.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
It's I mean, it's all over the place, and they're
trying to keep it out. It's just like just look
at their show Heyo Tani situation where he sent his
translator to gamble, and I mean, that's the whole can
of worms in itself.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, I'm with you, and especially depending every state has
its own different rules about this stuff too, you know
what I mean. So like Iowa was pretty loosey goosey
with it now and never Aska. It's not like a
lot of people when they come to the College World Series,
they drive over the border so they can make their bets,
then they drive back, you know what I'm saying, Like
it's the wild West out here in the gambling world.
But the bottom line, Adam, and I appreciate your call,

(16:47):
there are specific rules when you are athletes in these sports.
You cannot bet on games period. Roger's on the phone
line of four h two, five, five, eight to eleven ten.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
What do you think, Roger, Well, you know, I don't
have any problem with the roads going into the Hall
of Fame. Now, I know, you know you said that
he's deceased, that that's not is important. But but Pete
suffered his he he was convicted, were not convicted, Yeah,

(17:21):
I mean, yeah, anyhow, he he paid paid these news
for not being able to be inducted during his life.
He still has a record that no one has got.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Close to and probably won't.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
Yeah, and probably won't for a long time, you know.
I mean George Brett had three thousand. Yeah, and George
is one of the best hitters. You know, he played
for three decades.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, you would have to play for twenty twenty five
years to even come close. So here's the thing too,
to your point, Roger, he's serving what was called a
lifetime ban. What happens when his life is over, is
the ban over as well?

Speaker 6 (17:59):
Right, that's kind of that was kind of my question too.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a good point. It's a
good point.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I still think it's a little bit hollow in a way,
because what's the point of putting him in now that
he's gone.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
At the same time, if you do that, you better get,
like I said, get on the horn with those Black
Sox guys. In Julis Show, Jackson, Eddie Scott. You know
those are guys that are going to need to be
considered for this as well, and every other person that
has ever been banned from baseball or any other sport
for gambling. I'm just, uh, you know, if we're gonna help.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Build that's that's true. Yeah, you can't just make it
for just a certain person, for sure.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
You know.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
I have the privilege of working for the knas City Chiefs. Okay,
so I get to go to all the games, watch
the games. I'm still working on them there. But I
had to sign a uh something that said that I
cannot bet on anything, and that's an NFL thing. Look
at that, can't bet on college softball.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
That's incredible, right because and you're not even playing the game,
and they don't want you to do that, you know
what I'm saying, because they're afraid of the information you
could have, right, Like pretty interesting, Roger, That's it's a
compelling argument as to why this, like this rule exists.
Thanks so much for the call, man, Thank you you
bet Okay, all right, well, if you want to call
in a lot of people seem to be interested in
this conversation. We'd love to keep it up. I'm actually

(19:23):
gonna leave to go to my car. I'm going to
Ref's Sports Bar and grill at ninety second in Giles.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I'm gonna be there. We're gonna have a debate watch party.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
That doesn't mean this conversation needs to stop, though, I'm
gonna do the best that I can to be contacting.
I'll be on the radio and hopefully you and I
can chat about this while I'm in my car. But
we'll do that. We'll have some fun with it. Stick
around on news radio eleven to ten kfab.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Emory Sung on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Hey, man, guess what my temperature is on my air conditioner.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Oh, I'm gonna say it's a solid sixty eight.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
I have it at seventy one. But good, good guess. Yeah, yeah,
I'm not bad. It's like about that temperature outside as well.
It's just it's beautiful. It's also I'm not used to redriving.
I drove a little bit I was in Spain, but
I hadn't driven really that much for two weeks. So
have you ever done that where you just haven't driven

(20:23):
for a few days and you're just like, oh wow,
it's weird be on the road again.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's it's a weird feeling.
It's almost like, do I know how to do this?
Of course I do, but still the thought lingers.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Although I do hear all these stories about these people
that allegedly would you would think would know how to
drive it, don't know that, Like they get themselves in
trouble while driving all the time. So, you know, it's
kind of to one of those things.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
You know what used to happen to me when I
was a kid. I used to play Grand Theft Auto
for a long time, and then I'd go out and
drive in real life, and then I'd have to remind.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Myself you know, did you have to remind yourself?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, to stay on the sidewalks. It was. It was
a running thought in my head. Stay on the sidewalks, Matt,
this isn't a video game, or stay on the sidewalks.
Did I say stay on the sidewalks?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yes? I was gonna say, are you sure you're having
that conversation? Right?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Somebody take my keys?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
No?

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Grand Theft thought was sick coming out late next year.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Huh right?

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yeah, yeah, I talked to you about this with the
college football video game, and you said you kind of
wanted to play it, but you didn't have a console
to play it on. Are you going to invest in
the console so you can play these games?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
That sounds like a fine kickstarter idea if you. If
I do say so.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Myself, come on, well, anyway, I can't tell you this.
It's a good conversation in the last hour or the
last half hour about the Pete Rose situation. There's another
unfortunate passing. As I drive myself the rest Sports Bar
and on ninety seventh and Giles, which we're going to

(22:03):
be doing this debate watch party. You will take politics
real seriously. I like to find joy. We talked about
this yesterday too. I like to try to find as
much joy as I possibly can. And I gotta be
honest with you. I was hit pretty hard by the
knowledge that this morning that American Picker Frank Fritz passed away.

(22:28):
Now Frank is from by home state of Iowa. Was
born in the Davenport Quade Cities area. That store that
kind of where that TV show emanated out of the
American Pickers TV show, It's a store called Antique archaeology,
and they have a store in Tennessee as well, where
a lot of the big stuff that they find on
the TV show goes. But they have a store in Leclair,

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Iowa and Eastern Iowa. And it's just like the best
of Midwestern grace, Midwestern personalities, respect, Like these guys would
go onto these people's properties and investigate their you know,
like what they had like on there, like all this

(23:11):
old stuff or the signs. You've watched American Pickers, right, Oh?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Absolutely, yeah. I was a big fan of that show
back in the day.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, I mean it's still going on. Frank hasn't been
on the show for a few years. He and Mike Woolf,
who's the other main guy, potted ways and I think
it's Mike. It's either Heat or his brother or something.
I can't remember. I haven't watched in a while, but
it was the best Man and it was fun to
like like they would haggle with these guys, but they're
always soaking nice and kind. And I know it's a
TV show, but you know, it's kind of the opposite

(23:40):
of how Pond Stars work, right, where the guys on
the Pond Shop are you know, a little bit more
crass and a little bit more Las Vegas bullies than
you know, the American pickers, guys who are just there
creating conversations about these pieces of history that might be
overlooked because they aren't, you know, made by Van go

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if you will. So, I don't know. Frank Fritz passing
away at the age of sixty, young guy as well.
I don't know. Is it me or a lot of
celebrity deaths here in the last few few days.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
It does certainly seem like and I was thinking that
just a couple of days ago, it just seems like
a whole lot of not necessarily what you think of
a list celebrities, but a lot of notable people passing away.
Chris Christopherson passed away? Was that yesterday?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah? Yeah, he was using his eighties too. Who was
there was a ninety something year old that passed away.
That kind of messed me up, not messed me up,
But it's just like oh Man's dad. But then Jimmy
Carter turns one hundred.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Maggie Smith, right, Maggie Smith.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
That yeah, yeah, this big go there you go, there go, yeah.
Actress Maggie Smith. She was in Harry Potter moves, So
you know, you're just kind of like, oh, man, I
know they were old, but you know, you feel like
you know those people in a way, right, you don't

(25:16):
necessarily And we had that conversation about chap Row So
she's twenty six and how she feels like now her
privacy is being really like infringed upon now that she's
super famous and people see her out and about are,
you know, hugging her and taking pictures with her, and
she doesn't want any of that and all that stuff, right,

(25:39):
But it's because we feel like we know those people,
Like I'm not saying they have a responsibility too, you know,
show us that they care about us too, because they
don't know who we are, they don't know us. The
fact that they would even kind of care about us
for a couple of moments is more than I think

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we should be expecting. But that doesn't mean don't still
leave kind of a profound impact on our lives in
some way. And Frank Fritz is I mean, that's a
D level celebrity at best, right, Like a guy who's
on cable television, on a television show that it's pretty easy,
lazy watching, pretty fun to watch And I know a

(26:20):
lot of people like History, you watch the History Channel
or watch that show, but they're not thinking like Frank
Fritz is like a super duper celebrity. He's the kind
of guy you feel like you could walk into a
restaurant and have a legitimate conversation with. He's not that
big of a star, but he still felt like you
knew him because I had watched, you know, dozens of
episodes of him and Mike wandering around America finding all

(26:42):
of these gems of people who have these gyms of
antiques that they buy off their their property and then
of course, you know, try to sell at their store.
It's just sad to lose people like that. So now
rest and peace to him and everybody else that we've
lost recently. And I know that there's a lot of

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people that aren't super famous and having celebrity status that
we lose all the time, and that has even a
bigger impact on us when they're close to us. But
certainly it makes you. It makes you think about love
and loss. It makes you feel about your own personal
awareness and how it feels to be out in this

(27:22):
world and know that time is finite, mortality is incredibly real,
and there's no doubt to me that there's, you know,
a level of uncertainty as to what tomorrow may bring
for any of us. So for us to be super
angry with each other and be bickering and arguing about

(27:44):
a variety of things on a regular basis, it feels
like we're kind of missing the plot of what life
is all about at the end of the day, and
I guess I'm just going to have to die on
that hill, hopefully not literally for a while. It is
three forty five news Radio eleven to ten KFAB.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
On News Radio eleven TENFAB.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
I'll be there until the end of my show at
six o'clock, kind of doing a little pregame in for
tonight's debate. Watch party Vice President's debate happening this evening
eight o'clock Central time. You can come early. There's baseball
games going on. Baseball playoffs started today, which was always
a great time. Those will be on the TVs until

(28:24):
the debate starts. They'll have that going on as well,
and we'd love to just hang out. A vice presidential
debate not quite as big of a deal, I think
in the American consciousness as the presidential debate for obvious reasons,
but still it should be entertaining and we should learn
some things about both of these people, Tim Wallas and Jdvance.
So we'd love to have you come on out here

(28:45):
looking for something to do tonight while I'm driving here though, Matt,
I thought you had a question about something I did.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm wondering based on yesterday's show, do you have any
updates on the luggage situation?

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, okay, so I talked. It's about I Friday from
Spain and I got to the Madrid airport.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
We didn't do it right.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
We messed up the way that we did our check
in for our flight to come back, and we were
late to do that. And they over sell these flights,
it's pretty pretty normal practice. Well, they told us we
were on standby and our luggage our bag that we checked,
big suitcase with a ton of stuff, mostly my stuff,

(29:29):
and it would be on standby as.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Well, so.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
If we got on the plane. The plan was for
the suitcase to be on the plane, and if I
didn't get on the plane, then the suitcase wouldn't get
on the plane either and we could be reunited with
it if we had to stay another day or two. Well,
they told us last minute we could get on the plane,
but apparently that wasn't enough time to tell the guys
down below on the tarmac to put our bag on there.
So our bag didn't make it on the plane. And

(29:54):
I have like American airlines, you put the luggage thing
in because American works with this Spanish airline, and they
told us, hey, you know what, we will look for it.
We'll let you know when we know anything about it.
We just kind of have to wait for the Spanish
airline to let us know what's going on. And so

(30:14):
for a couple of days, you know, I thought about
it and thought about it. Was hoping they'd say that
they found our luggage and they'd be sending it back over.
And every single day they have I got the text
message from Americans saying they don't know where our bag
is yet. So yesterday after the show, and I had
some people say, don't worry about it. You're going to
find your bag. It's not going to be that big
of a deal. Well, I decided I was too itchy

(30:39):
to not do something, so I called Iberia, the Spanish airline,
and they actually have an incredibly quick process, they ask
you what language you want to speak when you call
the customer service line. The second question is like four
different items that you might be calling about, and one
of those items was lost or damaged luggage, and so

(31:01):
I clicked that and within a thirty second span, I
was talking to a representative and she basically said, hey,
do you have your bag number? I do have my
bag number. She asked to verify my name and maybe
a couple of other things, just to know that it
was me who had the bag and not somebody who
somehow had my bag number from maybe American or something

(31:22):
else that were trying to steal my bag. And she said, oh, no,
we have your bag. We have it right here. We're
waiting to send it on a plane to Chicago. And
their plan was to send the bag on a plane
to Chicago two o'clock Madrid time in the afternoon, and
if that was the case, that would be seven thirty

(31:45):
in the morning or so, or seven in the morning. Here,
it's a die and a half hour trip, so that
would be like four thirty so within the next half
hour or so, hopefully my suitcase will land. If everything
goes to the way that it was planned. A suitcase
should land in Chicago O'Hare Airport, and then American Airlines

(32:07):
will take over from that, and then after that then
they're going to grab the suitcase, put it on the
next flight to Omaha, and then drive it from the
Epley Airfield to my house. How's that for service?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
It's nice of them to do. I thought, maybe, you know,
it's all the way over there in Spain, they could
have just kind of kept it and had fun with it,
you know.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Oh yeah, Well, I don't know how much fun you're
gonna have with all my clothes, and a lot of
them were stinky because I had worn them on the vacation,
So good luck with that.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Yeah, fair enough, But yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
I mean I'm not I I felt a lot better
after talking to the lady from Iberia yesterday, so hopefully
what she said is true, and I get a text
message at some point during this afternoon or maybe this
evening that American Airlines does have my bag now and
they're working on reuniting me with it in the next

(33:04):
day or two. You know, right, and.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
When you were in Spain, what was the best thing
you ate while.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
You were there? It would it be? Well, that's the
thing right, Like there is Spanish food, but it's kind
of more like the traditional Spanish food is like more
of the preparation of food that we eat more so
than it is anything else. Right, So it's kind of like,

(33:34):
I like, they have Iberian meat or beef is what
they call it, and it's kind of like locally grown
you know, locally harvested cattle or whatever, right, and the
preparation of that with certain spices and things like that
was absolutely delicious. Now, I'm probably a bad guy to

(33:57):
ask because I like to keep it simple. I'm not
going to do a whole lot of like, yeah, let
me try this octopus in a burrito kind of thing.
Like I feel like, I why would I do that
if they have stuff on the MIDI I know, I
like kind of thing. Sure, But the way that they
prepared their beef was just it was delicious. It was

(34:19):
a bit different, but it was fantastic. And their breakfast
food over there, they really take breakfast pretty seriously and
they prepare fried eggs very well. Obviously with local eggs.
That was good, especially when they put them on like tapas,
which are you know, like little snack or Dirk type things.
So yeah, my wife would probably have a lot of

(34:40):
better answers because she was much more cavalier in her
food decisions than I was.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I got you, did you try any American food while
you're there? Like, did you stop by a McDonald's?

Speaker 4 (34:50):
I did, actually, So I was driving from Barcelona to Andorra,
which is about a three hour drive, and I was hungry.
I you know, we'll figure out where we're gonna stop.
They don't have a ton of like red stops there,
and they don't have a lot of like stops along
this like the highway. So we founded the city that

(35:10):
had a McDonald's. And the McDonald's been used way different
than it is here. They had like pulled pork on
the menu. They had bacon fries like it was crazy, man.
So yeah, check that stuff out.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Sounds delicious, Yeah, it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Anyway, I'm almost at Red Sports Bar and Grill. Next
time you hear me talking, I'll be there. Come see
hi to me on ninety seventh and Giles, and I'll
talk to you soon. Every songer with it? Yeah. From
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