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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here with you. Thanks for listening to us today. Talking
(00:02):
a lot about political rhetoric, political attitudes, and what happens
when you are talking to someone with any sort of
political background, And I got to tell you there is
if we're talking about the very backbone of what America
is and what we're looking to try to achieve as
(00:23):
a country. One thing that I absolutely know that we'll
be doing is learning about the next generation and how
they see this sort of thing and that means they
have to fall in love. And how does politics fit
into that. Well, we're about to find out. Joining us
on the phone line today is someone with twenty five
years of experience as a professional relationship expert who also
(00:44):
has launched the Lovability Show. She is a Jennifer Styers
and she is joining us on the phone line today. Jennifer,
thank you so much for being a part of our show.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, thanks for having me always a good topic and
getting more interesting by the day.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah. I grew up this a lot to my listeners,
but for your benefit, and I'm sure you probably raised
close to the same way. When parents never really talk
to me about politics, they certainly my dad especially, I
know he was going and voting and taking part in elections.
But he never really told us what he thought as
we were growing up. And the last thing that I
(01:19):
cared about as I was you know, had crushes on
you know, girls in high school, college, and even you
know before I met my wife, you know, just noticing
other people in the way that they operated. Nobody seemed
to care about politics. Sounds like that's changing now.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well it's changed a lot. I mean we've been seeing it,
you know, gradually increasing, you know, getting worse and worse
across the party lines. And it's not just gen Z,
although gen Z seems to be especially the female gen
zs seemed to be the most passionate about it. But
it's it's across the board. I mean, it's any age group.
(01:58):
Here's why and it and I think this is this
may be the difference between what you're talking about how
you grew up and our parents grew up and all that. Uh,
it's so closely linked to our values, right, So you
know people used to go religions, the you know, religions
the dividing force. Well it is, but politics now kind
(02:20):
of they it kind of mimics you know what I mean,
there's a there's a Christian tone to conservatism, and so
it's it's a it's a spiritual message as well. So
uh so it's like I said, it's very tied to values,
and that's why people are so opposed, as they should be,
because we should be finding people that match our values.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, that makes sense to me. I suppose. I just
also feel like we're in an environment now where you
can go to somebody's Twitter account essentially and pretty much
figure out what political party they belonged to or who
they vote for mostly or you can even just see
by their profile picture on Facebook. People are leading with
(03:02):
this is a true identifier of their personality. Is Oh yeah,
by the way, I am a liberal, or by the way,
I'm a conservative and I will vote more for Republicans.
Is that something that you know people just are looking
for things to identify themselves with or do you think
this really is a growth of Hey, I want people
to know what my political affiliation is because I only
(03:23):
want to be around people, including date, people that share
my political ideologies.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's a great observation, and I think it's both. Nobody's
ever asked asked that question before, But I think when
you talk about the gen Z generation, the Charlie Kirk generation.
You know, that was one thing he did with helped
people find a way to identify themselves, and you know,
and that's a beautiful thing. I mean, that was the
(03:52):
best thing he did, is they found a place to
belong and I am this where they didn't have that before.
And so I think that still a great space for
people that may not have had that identity or any
identity because of culture and the way things are you know, happening,
and you know, and young people's lives these days and
(04:12):
what they're being said. So and I think as people
are older, you know, they don't want to mess with
people that don't share their values and policed and so
they're putting it right out there, right up front, like
don't even talk to me.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, it's interesting. Jennifer Steyers is joining us on the
phone line here. You know, I see politics as this
great divider. And I also remember a time, even if
it was only about ten twelve years ago, as I
was a young adult, just felt like politics wasn't something
that many people talked about. I know that if you
(04:48):
asked people, and I know the survey has been done
recently about what the biggest deal breakers are for people.
And I would be curious to go back to, you know,
fifteen years ago and ask my generation. Okay, so what
the biggest dating deal breakers. I don't know if politics
would have really cracked the top five. To be honest,
what about the world changing? You know, you've been doing
(05:10):
this a long time. What about the last decade has
really changed the viewpoint of how important politics and political
viewpoints are for people, not just that they're activated to vote,
but that they're making decisions, every decision in their life
of who's around them and who they associate with based
on those political ideologies that they have.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You know, we can sit down to a whole hour
long podcast on this because it is such a big question.
But you take into account the extreme, you know, nature
of the leaders in our country over the past ten years,
twelve years, and then you take into account COVID, where
(05:52):
people were isolated for a while, which really affected people's psyche,
and you've got a mix that it's almost like it's
through gasoline on a fire during COVID. I mean, what
we've seen come out of COVID is completely different, and
we're dealing with a lot of these issues. So people
(06:14):
are a lot more isolated. They're not going out and
meeting having conversations with people that may think differently than them.
They're sitting behind a keyboard and reading what they should
believe by somebody or something, or listening to things. So
we just live in a different world now. And I've
never actually been asked that question, and it was just
(06:36):
enlightening for me to hear myself say that, because it's so,
it's just where we are, and it's causing issues in
so many areas, you know, but especially relationships, especially relationships,
because our future, which is marriage and children, you know,
depend on people being in relationships, and it's not happening.
(06:56):
The numbers are going down, and we're seeing some really
bad trends of people not even choosing to be in
a relationship at all.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Well, I know some people that are single and it's
not always voluntary in a way, but they're also the
standards are incredibly high, and they're very picky, and I
think the COVID thing, you know, I think we forget
just how much that warped kind of young people, even
you know, people in their twenties who might not be attached,
(07:25):
and just how they see the world, and I just wonder, right, So,
so politics is certainly an aspect of this. But you know,
you hear Jade Vance talk about childless cat ladies shouldn't be,
you know, running the country. You talk about rising costs
and how much more expensive it is to to bring
a child or multiple children up in the world today.
And you also hear about people who are using their
(07:48):
social media platforms as this megaphone for their opinions, when
you know, you never really regular people didn't have something
like that before. Is politics really the the kind of
underlying issue for all of this or is this entire
generation just kind of experiencing challenges that previous generations just
(08:08):
have not had. And that also is adding to the
challenge of people finding the right person that they want
to settle down with.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You're hitting you're hitting points that are that are so
beyond wise and and again beg a bigger conversation. You're
one hundred percent correct where they're dealing. They've been raised
behind a computer, they haven't had to in phones, they
haven't had to deal with people, they haven't had to socialize.
What their idea of dating and and love is maybe
(08:40):
maybe skewed because they've been subjected to things on the
Internet that they shouldn't have been seeing before a certain age,
and so they're disappointed when they get out in the
dating world and start, you know, getting active, and they're like, well,
it's not like it is online, you know, and so
they've become disillusion they're there's a whole lot of statistics
(09:01):
behind which I think you've read because you're talking to
a lot of what's happening in the psyche of this generation,
and it is the most concerning generation I think we
hop right now.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So yeah, I got to tell you this is it's
something that could have major ramifications, not just for the
virgin z and where they are right now, but of
course subsequent generations after that as technology just becomes more
of a factor. Jennifer Steyer's with this last thing for you, Jennifer,
as somebody who knows relationships and everything, like this is there?
(09:37):
I mean, I know that we're living in unprecedented times now,
but is there anything that you could see as a
harbinger of change for this generation? Is there you know,
a dating app or a service of dating that you
think could help bring these types of younger people back together?
And is politics so much of a deal breaker that
(10:00):
as people are politically active, is just going to be
a major factor early in a relationship or is that
something that you think could be a hurdle that could
be you know, jumped over if the mood is right
and we find other commonalities between us beyond just what
our political viewpoints are. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Okay, So great questions. Where do people find each other
these days? And I think the key for everybody, no
matter what your age is, is get out. What we
have bound statistically is that people are isolating. I had
started an app to connect people through matchmaking, and I've
quickly shifted to more of a connect app where people
(10:41):
get out and socialize and get in front of people.
That is the key in all of this because as
a society, whatever age we are, especially the young ones,
need to just get out and start talking to people
face to face. They lack confrontation skills, they lack communication skills,
and so that is the key is just get out
and get in front of somebody. I think when we
(11:02):
start having conversations, as we are on the brink of
all this with Charlie Kirk, but when we do start
having conversations, even if we have different opinions. It's the
conversations that matter. But you're not going to have those
conversations if you're sitting behind a keyboard, right or at
the right conversations I should say. So. I hope that
(11:23):
leads us out and answers your questions.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, it definitely does. I got to tell you, it
is very fascinating and something that I know a lot
of people are paying attention to. Jennifer Steyers is a
matchmaker and a relationship expert over thirty years of experience
and founded the Lovability app, the creator of the Social Listing,
which is an in person social experience for singles. Jennifer,
this was great. Thank you so much for being on
our show today.
Here with you. Thanks for listening to us today. Talking
(00:02):
a lot about political rhetoric, political attitudes, and what happens
when you are talking to someone with any sort of
political background, And I got to tell you there is
if we're talking about the very backbone of what America
is and what we're looking to try to achieve as
(00:23):
a country. One thing that I absolutely know that we'll
be doing is learning about the next generation and how
they see this sort of thing and that means they
have to fall in love. And how does politics fit
into that. Well, we're about to find out. Joining us
on the phone line today is someone with twenty five
years of experience as a professional relationship expert who also
(00:44):
has launched the Lovability Show. She is a Jennifer Styers
and she is joining us on the phone line today. Jennifer,
thank you so much for being a part of our show.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, thanks for having me always a good topic and
getting more interesting by the day.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah. I grew up this a lot to my listeners,
but for your benefit, and I'm sure you probably raised
close to the same way. When parents never really talk
to me about politics, they certainly my dad especially, I
know he was going and voting and taking part in elections.
But he never really told us what he thought as
we were growing up. And the last thing that I
(01:19):
cared about as I was you know, had crushes on
you know, girls in high school, college, and even you
know before I met my wife, you know, just noticing
other people in the way that they operated. Nobody seemed
to care about politics. Sounds like that's changing now.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well it's changed a lot. I mean we've been seeing it,
you know, gradually increasing, you know, getting worse and worse
across the party lines. And it's not just gen Z,
although gen Z seems to be especially the female gen
zs seemed to be the most passionate about it. But
it's it's across the board. I mean, it's any age group.
(01:58):
Here's why and it and I think this is this
may be the difference between what you're talking about how
you grew up and our parents grew up and all that. Uh,
it's so closely linked to our values, right, So you
know people used to go religions, the you know, religions
the dividing force. Well it is, but politics now kind
(02:20):
of they it kind of mimics you know what I mean,
there's a there's a Christian tone to conservatism, and so
it's it's a it's a spiritual message as well. So
uh so it's like I said, it's very tied to values,
and that's why people are so opposed, as they should be,
because we should be finding people that match our values.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, that makes sense to me. I suppose. I just
also feel like we're in an environment now where you
can go to somebody's Twitter account essentially and pretty much
figure out what political party they belonged to or who
they vote for mostly or you can even just see
by their profile picture on Facebook. People are leading with
(03:02):
this is a true identifier of their personality. Is Oh yeah,
by the way, I am a liberal, or by the way,
I'm a conservative and I will vote more for Republicans.
Is that something that you know people just are looking
for things to identify themselves with or do you think
this really is a growth of Hey, I want people
to know what my political affiliation is because I only
(03:23):
want to be around people, including date, people that share
my political ideologies.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's a great observation, and I think it's both. Nobody's
ever asked asked that question before, But I think when
you talk about the gen Z generation, the Charlie Kirk generation.
You know, that was one thing he did with helped
people find a way to identify themselves, and you know,
and that's a beautiful thing. I mean, that was the
(03:52):
best thing he did, is they found a place to
belong and I am this where they didn't have that before.
And so I think that still a great space for
people that may not have had that identity or any
identity because of culture and the way things are you know, happening,
and you know, and young people's lives these days and
(04:12):
what they're being said. So and I think as people
are older, you know, they don't want to mess with
people that don't share their values and policed and so
they're putting it right out there, right up front, like
don't even talk to me.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, it's interesting. Jennifer Steyers is joining us on the
phone line here. You know, I see politics as this
great divider. And I also remember a time, even if
it was only about ten twelve years ago, as I
was a young adult, just felt like politics wasn't something
that many people talked about. I know that if you
(04:48):
asked people, and I know the survey has been done
recently about what the biggest deal breakers are for people.
And I would be curious to go back to, you know,
fifteen years ago and ask my generation. Okay, so what
the biggest dating deal breakers. I don't know if politics
would have really cracked the top five. To be honest,
what about the world changing? You know, you've been doing
(05:10):
this a long time. What about the last decade has
really changed the viewpoint of how important politics and political
viewpoints are for people, not just that they're activated to vote,
but that they're making decisions, every decision in their life
of who's around them and who they associate with based
on those political ideologies that they have.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You know, we can sit down to a whole hour
long podcast on this because it is such a big question.
But you take into account the extreme, you know, nature
of the leaders in our country over the past ten years,
twelve years, and then you take into account COVID, where
(05:52):
people were isolated for a while, which really affected people's psyche,
and you've got a mix that it's almost like it's
through gasoline on a fire during COVID. I mean, what
we've seen come out of COVID is completely different, and
we're dealing with a lot of these issues. So people
(06:14):
are a lot more isolated. They're not going out and
meeting having conversations with people that may think differently than them.
They're sitting behind a keyboard and reading what they should
believe by somebody or something, or listening to things. So
we just live in a different world now. And I've
never actually been asked that question, and it was just
(06:36):
enlightening for me to hear myself say that, because it's so,
it's just where we are, and it's causing issues in
so many areas, you know, but especially relationships, especially relationships,
because our future, which is marriage and children, you know,
depend on people being in relationships, and it's not happening.
(06:56):
The numbers are going down, and we're seeing some really
bad trends of people not even choosing to be in
a relationship at all.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Well, I know some people that are single and it's
not always voluntary in a way, but they're also the
standards are incredibly high, and they're very picky, and I
think the COVID thing, you know, I think we forget
just how much that warped kind of young people, even
you know, people in their twenties who might not be attached,
(07:25):
and just how they see the world, and I just wonder, right, So,
so politics is certainly an aspect of this. But you know,
you hear Jade Vance talk about childless cat ladies shouldn't be,
you know, running the country. You talk about rising costs
and how much more expensive it is to to bring
a child or multiple children up in the world today.
And you also hear about people who are using their
(07:48):
social media platforms as this megaphone for their opinions, when
you know, you never really regular people didn't have something
like that before. Is politics really the the kind of
underlying issue for all of this or is this entire
generation just kind of experiencing challenges that previous generations just
(08:08):
have not had. And that also is adding to the
challenge of people finding the right person that they want
to settle down with.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You're hitting you're hitting points that are that are so
beyond wise and and again beg a bigger conversation. You're
one hundred percent correct where they're dealing. They've been raised
behind a computer, they haven't had to in phones, they
haven't had to deal with people, they haven't had to socialize.
What their idea of dating and and love is maybe
(08:40):
maybe skewed because they've been subjected to things on the
Internet that they shouldn't have been seeing before a certain age,
and so they're disappointed when they get out in the
dating world and start, you know, getting active, and they're like, well,
it's not like it is online, you know, and so
they've become disillusion they're there's a whole lot of statistics
(09:01):
behind which I think you've read because you're talking to
a lot of what's happening in the psyche of this generation,
and it is the most concerning generation I think we
hop right now.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So yeah, I got to tell you this is it's
something that could have major ramifications, not just for the
virgin z and where they are right now, but of
course subsequent generations after that as technology just becomes more
of a factor. Jennifer Steyer's with this last thing for you, Jennifer,
as somebody who knows relationships and everything, like this is there?
(09:37):
I mean, I know that we're living in unprecedented times now,
but is there anything that you could see as a
harbinger of change for this generation? Is there you know,
a dating app or a service of dating that you
think could help bring these types of younger people back together?
And is politics so much of a deal breaker that
(10:00):
as people are politically active, is just going to be
a major factor early in a relationship or is that
something that you think could be a hurdle that could
be you know, jumped over if the mood is right
and we find other commonalities between us beyond just what
our political viewpoints are. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Okay, So great questions. Where do people find each other
these days? And I think the key for everybody, no
matter what your age is, is get out. What we
have bound statistically is that people are isolating. I had
started an app to connect people through matchmaking, and I've
quickly shifted to more of a connect app where people
(10:41):
get out and socialize and get in front of people.
That is the key in all of this because as
a society, whatever age we are, especially the young ones,
need to just get out and start talking to people
face to face. They lack confrontation skills, they lack communication skills,
and so that is the key is just get out
and get in front of somebody. I think when we
(11:02):
start having conversations, as we are on the brink of
all this with Charlie Kirk, but when we do start
having conversations, even if we have different opinions. It's the
conversations that matter. But you're not going to have those
conversations if you're sitting behind a keyboard, right or at
the right conversations I should say. So. I hope that
(11:23):
leads us out and answers your questions.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, it definitely does. I got to tell you, it
is very fascinating and something that I know a lot
of people are paying attention to. Jennifer Steyers is a
matchmaker and a relationship expert over thirty years of experience
and founded the Lovability app, the creator of the Social Listing,
which is an in person social experience for singles. Jennifer,
this was great. Thank you so much for being on
our show today.
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