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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now though, we're going to start the five o'clock
hours we always do with Sean Callahan and Sean are
Husker Buzz insider. Sean, how are you feeling on a Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, good afternoon. Yeah, obviously quieter and Lincoln this week
with the bye week. They did practice today, but a
lot going on still in college football, you know, now
more discussion about possible playoff formats. That's kind of the
latest thing that dropped today that you know, we really
could be at a format down the road here sooner
(00:31):
rather than later, of twenty plus teams where you know,
now the new proposals, the SEC, Big ten, ACC and
Big twelve all would get equal auto bids, maybe three
or four per league, and then there would still be
a pool of a large bids available. But you get
the sense for the future of the game. The Big
ten is really pushing for more of an NFL Pro
(00:51):
Sports model where your divisional your top teams get in
and you're not really penalized for you know, internal losses,
so to speak. Your best teams from your group get
in and I think really trying to push that format.
We'll see if you can get off the ground.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, this has always been kind of an interesting thing, Sean.
For me, is that Division one power football, like the
big time football going all the way back to the
beginning of the nineteen hundreds, it was either Walter Camp
or the media who were deciding who the best team was.
But because the sample size is so small, I mean,
there was just no good way to know. FCS or
(01:30):
Division one Double A and Division two Division three in
AIA high schools all over the country like they have
an operation that they can actually whittle it down to
figure out who the best team is. And I never
quite figured out. We have this whole month of December
that nobody was really playing games that really mattered except
these bowl games, and now all of a sudden, we're
(01:52):
talking about maybe adopting a model that isn't that different
than maybe what the FCS has done for years, where
you know, they're doing twenty four teams right now from
your advantage point, has this been a long time coming,
especially if everybody has equal representation, or is this something
that you think is kind of a shame to see
(02:12):
big time college football go to a situation like this
where eight or nine win teams are getting into the
playoff pretty easily. On a year to year basis.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, there's I think three or four layers to that number.
One the New Year six bowl games like it or not,
they have a huge historical voice in college football, and
they're kind of like the Mafia. I mean, the Rose Bowl,
the Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, the
Cotton Bowl, the Peach Bowl. You know, those group of
people that run these bowls and those cities still have
(02:45):
a pretty big voice within all of this. So there's
that part to it. And then that's what's different with
NCAA Division One football versus the rest of the levels
of football. Those bowl games existed before championships ever existed,
and they have one hundred hundred plus years of history
with these games and a lot of handshake deals and
(03:05):
agreements that go way back. When the other part is
now December is different than it used to be. It
used to be needed December to recruit and go out
on the road and do all these recruiting things. Now
you can't even do that anymore. So recruiting in December
is not even part of the deal that used to be.
Like I've covered bowl games for years where the coaches
weren't there at practices because they'd be recruiting and then
(03:27):
they'd race back and you know, the big December thing
they always did was academics, So you had to build
it around kind of finals week and dead week and
get that stuff done. But the other part of December
is the NFL. The NFL obviously tries to creep into
December more and more on Saturdays, and you know that's
a big battle in there. Like last year the Chiefs
(03:48):
Texans game was on NBC, which is a good game
going head to head with playoff games, and the Chiefs
Texans got a high rating, which is always going to do.
The NFL beats college football had to head all the
time every time. And so there's that part of it too.
How you build this, how do you do it to
get the most ratings? Is that the NFL wants to
play on your day, You're going to lose a lot
(04:09):
of your number at that point. So there's so many
pieces to this that have to get sorted out. And
then the other pieces of the money. What format makes
the most money and that will ultimately be a big part.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Of this, yeah, for sure, and more games that matter
equals more money. You would think in a lot of
different ways. Like you mentioned the NFL having kind of
a platform on Saturdays that continues to grow, especially late
in the season. Yeah, it's going to be something that
people keep an eye on. But I do think that
it's fascinating and I think more people who are college
football fans would be really into the idea if every
(04:44):
major power conference had an equal number of seats at
the table guaranteed. But I guess we'll find out. That's
a slow developing as far as I concern. I wish
they could just implement it right now. But what would
be a realistic timeline on maybe make an adjustment to
the twelve team format that we just started last year.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I mean, I think maybe twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight,
kind of let things sort out. The biggest thing, too,
is like how many home sites will there be and
how do you format in the new year six? And
then what happens to the rest of the bowl games,
because they really would lose a lot of meeting. I mean,
even like the Reliac West Bowl in Tampa and then
(05:22):
the game in Orlando, the Capitol One or the Citrus
Bowl like that game. Those types of games are used
to be really good bowl games and they don't really
carry the same weight as they once did, and they
wouldn't really at all at that point. If you're going
to take like the four or five best teams from
the Big ten in the SEC and maybe even six
teams from those leagues out of those bowl games, what
(05:43):
happens to all that stuff? You know, Like that's the
other part that you know, I think has to get
sorted out. And bowl games really right now, they do
exist for one reason to give ESPN programming in December.
They don't start airing college basketball in December until basically
after the College Football National Championship Game and they start
playing the big Monday and all those Tuesday games. But
(06:05):
ESPN's format is like, all right, Monday Night football is
on Monday, but then they fill the rest of the
week with college football games in December, and that's such
a big piece to their budget. You know, Like Nebraska
played Boston College. They got four point two million viewers
on a meaningless bowl game in New York City in December,
so like there is a value to that. But yeah,
(06:25):
I think this scheduling in this format could really make
those numbers, you know, just look like nothing. I mean,
if they could expand this, you'd get to monster ratings
depending on how they could place these games in the lineups.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, and like we saw, I think the on campus
games really were a fun environment for the playoff, But
that doesn't help resolve the issue that you were talking
about with the Bowl games. And I think, and maybe
you can echo this, the growing number of players that
are just jumping in the transfer portal or opting out
in general, based solely on the fact that they don't
(07:00):
want to get themselves hurt in what is a glorified
exhibition game, which was what these Bowl games are. If
they're not in the playoff anymore, I just don't know
what the life span of these games are going to
be if a lot of the high profile players aren't
playing them in the first place.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Right. Yeah, if you take the playoff from four teams
to twelve to twenty or twenty four, all of a sudden,
you are really cutting into the overall pool of teams
and players at that point. The positive with these bullgeme
if they go to expanding playoff is you won't have
any opt outs in those games. I mean, the top
top guys are going to play. But yeah, there's just
(07:35):
so much to it. But we know where the Big
ten stands. They want a model that guarantees them bids
and they would even like to create a playing weekend
still if they could, where you'd have like playing games
that lead into the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well I would be exciting. We'll see how things go
and how it fits in for the Nebraska corn Huskers
here on a bye week. Sean Callahan or a Husker
insider with Husker Buzz, appreciate the time as always, Sean,
thanks for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Thank Devery
Right now though, we're going to start the five o'clock
hours we always do with Sean Callahan and Sean are
Husker Buzz insider. Sean, how are you feeling on a Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, good afternoon. Yeah, obviously quieter and Lincoln this week
with the bye week. They did practice today, but a
lot going on still in college football, you know, now
more discussion about possible playoff formats. That's kind of the
latest thing that dropped today that you know, we really
could be at a format down the road here sooner
(00:31):
rather than later, of twenty plus teams where you know,
now the new proposals, the SEC, Big ten, ACC and
Big twelve all would get equal auto bids, maybe three
or four per league, and then there would still be
a pool of a large bids available. But you get
the sense for the future of the game. The Big
ten is really pushing for more of an NFL Pro
(00:51):
Sports model where your divisional your top teams get in
and you're not really penalized for you know, internal losses,
so to speak. Your best teams from your group get
in and I think really trying to push that format.
We'll see if you can get off the ground.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, this has always been kind of an interesting thing, Sean.
For me, is that Division one power football, like the
big time football going all the way back to the
beginning of the nineteen hundreds, it was either Walter Camp
or the media who were deciding who the best team was.
But because the sample size is so small, I mean,
there was just no good way to know. FCS or
(01:30):
Division one Double A and Division two Division three in
AIA high schools all over the country like they have
an operation that they can actually whittle it down to
figure out who the best team is. And I never
quite figured out. We have this whole month of December
that nobody was really playing games that really mattered except
these bowl games, and now all of a sudden, we're
(01:52):
talking about maybe adopting a model that isn't that different
than maybe what the FCS has done for years, where
you know, they're doing twenty four teams right now from
your advantage point, has this been a long time coming,
especially if everybody has equal representation, or is this something
that you think is kind of a shame to see
(02:12):
big time college football go to a situation like this
where eight or nine win teams are getting into the
playoff pretty easily. On a year to year basis.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, there's I think three or four layers to that number.
One the New Year six bowl games like it or not,
they have a huge historical voice in college football, and
they're kind of like the Mafia. I mean, the Rose Bowl,
the Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, the
Cotton Bowl, the Peach Bowl. You know, those group of
people that run these bowls and those cities still have
(02:45):
a pretty big voice within all of this. So there's
that part to it. And then that's what's different with
NCAA Division One football versus the rest of the levels
of football. Those bowl games existed before championships ever existed,
and they have one hundred hundred plus years of history
with these games and a lot of handshake deals and
(03:05):
agreements that go way back. When the other part is
now December is different than it used to be. It
used to be needed December to recruit and go out
on the road and do all these recruiting things. Now
you can't even do that anymore. So recruiting in December
is not even part of the deal that used to be.
Like I've covered bowl games for years where the coaches
weren't there at practices because they'd be recruiting and then
(03:27):
they'd race back and you know, the big December thing
they always did was academics, So you had to build
it around kind of finals week and dead week and
get that stuff done. But the other part of December
is the NFL. The NFL obviously tries to creep into
December more and more on Saturdays, and you know that's
a big battle in there. Like last year the Chiefs
(03:48):
Texans game was on NBC, which is a good game
going head to head with playoff games, and the Chiefs
Texans got a high rating, which is always going to do.
The NFL beats college football had to head all the
time every time. And so there's that part of it too.
How you build this, how do you do it to
get the most ratings? Is that the NFL wants to
play on your day, You're going to lose a lot
(04:09):
of your number at that point. So there's so many
pieces to this that have to get sorted out. And
then the other pieces of the money. What format makes
the most money and that will ultimately be a big part.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Of this, yeah, for sure, and more games that matter
equals more money. You would think in a lot of
different ways. Like you mentioned the NFL having kind of
a platform on Saturdays that continues to grow, especially late
in the season. Yeah, it's going to be something that
people keep an eye on. But I do think that
it's fascinating and I think more people who are college
football fans would be really into the idea if every
(04:44):
major power conference had an equal number of seats at
the table guaranteed. But I guess we'll find out. That's
a slow developing as far as I concern. I wish
they could just implement it right now. But what would
be a realistic timeline on maybe make an adjustment to
the twelve team format that we just started last year.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I mean, I think maybe twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight,
kind of let things sort out. The biggest thing, too,
is like how many home sites will there be and
how do you format in the new year six? And
then what happens to the rest of the bowl games,
because they really would lose a lot of meeting. I mean,
even like the Reliac West Bowl in Tampa and then
(05:22):
the game in Orlando, the Capitol One or the Citrus
Bowl like that game. Those types of games are used
to be really good bowl games and they don't really
carry the same weight as they once did, and they
wouldn't really at all at that point. If you're going
to take like the four or five best teams from
the Big ten in the SEC and maybe even six
teams from those leagues out of those bowl games, what
(05:43):
happens to all that stuff? You know, Like that's the
other part that you know, I think has to get
sorted out. And bowl games really right now, they do
exist for one reason to give ESPN programming in December.
They don't start airing college basketball in December until basically
after the College Football National Championship Game and they start
playing the big Monday and all those Tuesday games. But
(06:05):
ESPN's format is like, all right, Monday Night football is
on Monday, but then they fill the rest of the
week with college football games in December, and that's such
a big piece to their budget. You know, Like Nebraska
played Boston College. They got four point two million viewers
on a meaningless bowl game in New York City in December,
so like there is a value to that. But yeah,
(06:25):
I think this scheduling in this format could really make
those numbers, you know, just look like nothing. I mean,
if they could expand this, you'd get to monster ratings
depending on how they could place these games in the lineups.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, and like we saw, I think the on campus
games really were a fun environment for the playoff, But
that doesn't help resolve the issue that you were talking
about with the Bowl games. And I think, and maybe
you can echo this, the growing number of players that
are just jumping in the transfer portal or opting out
in general, based solely on the fact that they don't
(07:00):
want to get themselves hurt in what is a glorified
exhibition game, which was what these Bowl games are. If
they're not in the playoff anymore, I just don't know
what the life span of these games are going to
be if a lot of the high profile players aren't
playing them in the first place.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Right. Yeah, if you take the playoff from four teams
to twelve to twenty or twenty four, all of a sudden,
you are really cutting into the overall pool of teams
and players at that point. The positive with these bullgeme
if they go to expanding playoff is you won't have
any opt outs in those games. I mean, the top
top guys are going to play. But yeah, there's just
(07:35):
so much to it. But we know where the Big
ten stands. They want a model that guarantees them bids
and they would even like to create a playing weekend
still if they could, where you'd have like playing games
that lead into the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well I would be exciting. We'll see how things go
and how it fits in for the Nebraska corn Huskers
here on a bye week. Sean Callahan or a Husker
insider with Husker Buzz, appreciate the time as always, Sean,
thanks for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Thank Devery
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