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May 16, 2025 11 mins
Sen. Deb Fischer's View on Trump's Trade Policies
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Senator Fisher, as always, thank you so much for being
on the show today.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good to be here, Emory, thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yeah. I got to start with Donald Trump because I
know that you are the entirety of Washington. D C
is supposed to be working together, and I'm sure you
and all the other people in Congress have been seeing
what he's been up to this week in the Middle East.
Talks with Saudi Arabia, gigantic six hundred billion dollar deal
of a variety of nature, some important things that we've

(00:26):
been seeing in Guitar and UAE. What about this trip
do you think is going to be the lasting moment
of this and what can be built off of the
building blocks that has been kind of settled here with
Donald Trump's first trip away from America in his second term.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, first of all, it's always extremely important for the
president of the United States to be engaged and to
be active and to be involved with leaders around the world.
So I'm excited that he is doing that. He's out
trout now as we saw, he's been in countries in

(01:03):
the Middle East that past presidents had never visited. I
think that he is establishing quite a bit of good
will in his first term, he set up the Abraham Accords,
which were extremely helpful with Israel. Hopefully those will continue
to grow and we'll see more countries in the area

(01:25):
work together with Israel in an economic sense. But that
also brings peace to the area. So I'm glad he's
out there and active. We haven't seen that for quite
a few years.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
This is another interesting kind of chapter. I suppose in
the last month and a half or so of the liberation,
I suppose tariff land kind of got started at the
beginning of April, and there have been pauses put on this.
And this includes now China deals being talked about with
all these different countries. And a lot of people notice
saying what Donald Trump is using trade and the tool

(02:03):
that he's using it for, and he says he could
potentially use it even to help end the Ukrainian Russia conflict.
What about trade from a perspective of somebody like you
who've been You've been in the Senate long enough to
be there for multiple presidents, and how trade is being
utilized by Trump early in the second term versus how
you've typically seen trade be used by the executive branch.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well, again, President Trump, he's up front on it. He
campaigned saying that he was going to be active the campaigns,
saying that there would be tariffs and they would be
used as tools. And he's keeping his word and doing that.
We didn't see that in the last four years with
the Biden administration, that's for sure. In fact, there was

(02:50):
no interest in trade. Nothing happened in trade in that administration.
And now we're looking at a forty nine billion dollar
trade deficit that's extremely detrimental to Nebraskans and to the
rest of America's producers and manufacturers. So what I hear
across the state is people are willing to give the

(03:10):
president time on this tariffs. You know, when you hear
the word tariffs in past and even now, it makes
you nervous. But to watch the President use these and
hopefully we're going to continue to hear more about some
new trade deals that are coming out that's only going
to help our state and help our country. In fact,

(03:32):
about a week ago or two weeks ago now, the
Trade rep Jameson Greer met with Republicans and told us
that there's you know, up to twenty trade deals that
they're just working on the details now, and we encouraged
him to get the news out as soon as he can,
because I think it's important that people understand this isn't

(03:53):
just pie in the sky, that these deals are being
worked on. Hopefully we're going to see something soon and
be able to build on that with other countries.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Deb Fisher, Senator from the United States, is joining us
right now. Senator, the China thing in China in relations
with China, I think agriculturally are incredibly important here in
this state, in all of the Midwest. What about that
development are you hoping to see for the best benefit
for the farmers of this state.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, I'm hoping to see a good deal and negotiated
and then followed through by China. You know, let's remember
in the first Trump administration there was a deal with China.
China didn't meet it as fully as it should have.
And I think it's important that the President is a

(04:50):
negotiator stay tough on this to make sure whatever deal
is is negotiated that China follows through.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Another thing that I kind of just wanted to piggyback
off of that on is the work that Congress has
to do with each other. And you know how the
game is played and you know how politics works, and
you know how people talk on social media, and it's
one thing that you're always kind of trying to overcome
is just misinformation about what an administration is attempting to do.

(05:21):
So I'm going to before I get kind of into
some of the more you know, specific things that you've
been working on, how do you describe to us, you know,
the lay people who we don't exactly know what's going
on behind closed doors, or how you guys have to
make your deals to be able to get stuff accomplished.
How can you best describe what that atmosphere is like
right now with such a quick moving administration making a

(05:45):
lot of changes by the day, when there are a
lot of people who've been in Congress a long time
trying to fight back against that.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, of course, in the Senate we have the filibuster,
and I'm a big supporter of the filibuster. It takes
votes usually to get anything past, and it makes us
talk to each other. It makes Republicans and Democrats talk
to each other. We are a large, vast, diverse country

(06:14):
and as you know, about half the countries on one
side and half on the other. Well, we can't continue
that we do need to fight for the principles, the
values we hold dear. We need to do what's best
for the country. We need to help our state, but
we also need to work together. And that's why in

(06:34):
the Senate, I think it's important that we keep the
filibuster because it forces us to talk to each other.
If we didn't have that, you would see such swings
in policy that it would be extremely difficult for families
to make decisions and almost impossible for businesses to make
decisions when you have these huge swings, say in tax policy,

(06:59):
when you're looking add a right to work stage that
Nebraska is. If that would swing one way or another
looking at social issues, can you imagine some of the fights,
some of the disruption that would go on there when
you're swinging from one extreme to another. So I think

(07:19):
it's important for people to know that as much as possible,
we are out there working together. We see that on
the Armed Services Committee, we get one big product out
a year, and it's to take care of our military
men and women, and it's to protect our national security.
And we work together as a committee, Republicans and Democrats

(07:42):
because we all believe in the number one priority for
this country has to be our defense. So we work
together on that and have for oh my gosh, over
seventy years, have been able to get a product out
there that's going to keep this nation safe. So I
would say to folks in Nebraska, you know, you just

(08:04):
you need to know that those types of things that
are there happening. But of course there's going to be
other areas where because of our philosophical differences, because we're
from different states, we just are not going to agree
on and there will be a lot of conversations and

(08:25):
battles going on about that. But there are also success
stories out there and strong success stories like our national defense,
where we do work together to keep this country safe.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Senator den Fisher joining us, I want to talk about
something that you and this is great information and good
insight into how a politician has to think in Washington,
d C. I know something that you've been working on
is paid family and medically tax credits. Can you kind
of talk about where we are on this and what
kind of spot that this is in and how it
will be affecting the citizens here.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yes, I have worked on paid family medical leave in
the past. I was able to get my bill included
in the twenty seventeen tax reform package that was passed.
It was a pilot program at that time, so right
now we're working really hard to get it made permanent

(09:21):
in the reconciliation package that we're going to be sending
out of the Senate. I worked on that bill with
Sender King, who is an independent from the state of Maine,
and we work on a lot of armed services things together.
We're on Strategic Forces Subcommittee together, and so we have

(09:41):
a good relationship and he's my partner here on this
paid family lead. It's a tax credit for businesses, small
businesses that offer paid leaves to their employees, and we
really wanted to target that for hourly employ employees, lower
salary employees. When you look at small businesses across the country,

(10:07):
about forty six percent of small businesses they employ the
private workforce. Forty six perend the private workforce. They're an
economic engine for the country. But only about nineteen percent
of those who work for small employers have access to
paid family leap. Larger corporations provide it, So we have

(10:29):
a text credit for the business. It's a voluntary program,
it is not a mandate. It does not set up
another entitlement. We've shown it works and we want to
make it permanent so we can help families.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
It is something that I know a lot of people
are rooting for, and we're working for a lot of
progress in any way, shape or form. Letting us know
where we are on progress is Senator deb Fisher. Senator
Fisher has always a true honor to speak with you.
Thanks so much for being a part of our show
today and keep doing some great work for us.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Thank you very much, Talking again soon.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Absolutely, four twenty is the time on news radio eleven
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