Should AI be the Next Governor of California?

Should ChatGPT be the Next Governor of California?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today is the day that you're supposed to put that
jelly out for the first time. Make sure you get
him so rape jelly, right, that's what I use. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know when it does something else. There's a lot
of different things going on out there in the world today,
but in a half hour, we're going to take your
mind off of it. What do you think about if
I told you there's a possibility of Gavin Newsom, Yeah,

(00:25):
thinking about a bid for the presidency in twenty twenty
eight and maybe leaving the governorship of California behind. Who
would be a name that you'd kind of like, Yeah,
that's probably a name that's probably gonna happen for California governor. Yeah,
let's see. I think they need to go back to
Hollywood for that one. Well, that's the thing is, like,
that's totally in play. I would say Andy Milanakas, Remember

(00:48):
that guy, He has that thing where he looks like
a child but he's fully grown. I think that would
fit well out there. He used to do pranks on MTV. Yeah,
I remember, Yeah, Andy Milanakas, that guy still probably does
it really matter? It's California, They'll figure it out. No,
they won't. That's the problem. Well, he's not gonna do
any worse. No, no, what if I a politician, let's say,

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let's say, let's let's keep it to politicians. Uh, give
me a politician. You think it's a high profile job.
You're the the governor of the well they got to
live there. Well, yeah, I about Luka doncic No, no, no,
come on, you know what I got though. Here's why
she's a little political. Yeah, mix it up, mix it up,
Sheryl Crow. No. Remember she was talking about how we

(01:35):
need to use less toilet paper. Yeah, I remember that.
I can't. I can't not think of that when I
listened to her music. You know, I was singing Kamala Harris.
Oh sure, doesn't that make more sense than anything you
just said. I think most things do make more sense
than the things I say. Uh. Now, I haven't seen
too much of her. Tim Wall's going like some big tour,
capitalizing on the momentum of his name being in the

(01:57):
in the news. But he certainly is not going to
be doing a whole lot, a whole lot to move
in the way of you know, how do you explain
this to somebody? Right, It's just like you're not gonna
win any office, but there are some people out there
that really like you, and they'll go see if you
travel to their town. That's kind of the Tim Walls
experience right now. I think you have zero percent chance

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of ever going and having a chance of winning a
higher office. In fact, you've probably done enough damage to
your name throughout the presidential campaign to not be able
to maintain your status in Minnesota for very long either.
But if you're bouncing around while your name is still
kind of hot. Because remember twenty sixteen, who was the
vice presidential nominee for Hillary Clinton? That was his name,

(02:40):
Tim Kaine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good job. Look at me?
Go wow? Who was the failed vice presidential candidate alongside
Mitt Romney in twenty twelve? Mitt Romney? Boy, that's a
good Oh No, okay, No, it wasn't Sarah Palin because
she was the VP for King John McCain. Who was
Mitt Romney? Let me think about it. Uh, can you
give me like a state I'm gonna give you. I'll

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give you fifteen seconds to work through it in your head.
Nothing's coming to me, all right. It's a guy who
had held a pretty decently high office afterward he wasn't
elected to it. Well, he was elected to it, but
he was also you know, like he's a he was
a younger guy. Younger guy. Yeah, I got nothing. Come on,
what's what's he look like? Does he? He's got a

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big hair game like he Yeah. Look, he's a good
looking guy. Good looking guy. Where's he from? Dang, Wisconsin? Wisconsin? Oh?
That guy? Yeah? Is it? It's old Ron Johnson or
something like that. No, No, I don't know. Paul Ryan,
Paul Ryan. You know, I was working my way there,

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Paul Ryan, Paul Ryan. Sure, he's the brother of those coaches, right,
the Ryan brothers from the NFL. I don't think so. No, okay, yeah,
he was the running mate. He's a young, exciting Republican.
Where did that guy go to? He joined the board
of directors at Fox in twenty nineteen, joined the faculty
of the University of Notre Dame as a professor of

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practice for the twenty nineteen twenty twenty academic year. Was
a guest lecturer in political science and economics. In April
twenty nineteen, he was nominated as a delegation leader to
represent President Trump and a visit to Taipei. In twenty twenty,
he joined the public relations and advisory company to Neo
as a senior advisor. It's a public relation company. February
twenty twenty one, he was a partner in a private

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equity investment in Boston, a firm called Solomeir Capital. And
in twenty twenty three he unbuilt his official portrait at
the US Capitol. And yeah, it's about all we know
about Paul Ryan since he decided he didn't want to
be in Congress anymore. But nay, just twelve and a
half years ago, Paul Ryan was the running mate for
one Mitt Romney. Could have been Ryan Paul, could have

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switched it around. You know, one of those first names,
last names kind of guy. He is one of those guys.
I mean, Ron Paul's not that far off rand. Paul
Ryan Paul definitely in the mix anyway. The reason I
bring that up is you have to capitalize on your
name while it's there. Tamala Harris needs to rerun for
office soon, right, thust herself off, get back into like
Tim Wallace, he's got no hope. But if she runs

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for governor then she probably won't be able to run
for president. Again, you think that's a good idea. You
really think running for president Kamala Harris is a good idea?
Why not? Because if you had an election like a primary,
you think she would do anything? I don't know, no zero.
She got plenty of votes for president and look at
how many times Joe Biden tried at it and he
eventually got there. Yeah. Well, okay, so let's break this
down from a fundamental standpoint here. Okay. Number one, Kamala

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Harris did run for president once. Remember that one time before? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
it was in twenty twenty, and she got absolutely smoked.
Tulci Gabbert ended her political career. We thought, we never
thought we'd see her again because she got smashed in
the debate so hard it was crazy. Okay, that being said,
she comes back because Joe Biden says, you should be

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my vice president, and he said that she was qualified,
she was the right person for the job. I'm not
here to say who is or is it qualified for
the job? You want to know what I think. I
think there are a lot more people more qualified than
she was for that job. But it didn't matter. Joe
Biden got handed it anyway. He was handed the keys
to the kingdom anyway. You know why, because Bernie Sanders
was in position to take that nomination and the Democratic

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Party changed the rules again to screw him out of it.
So Joe Biden, who would have a chance at winning
in a regular, legitimate election, would have a chance in
a general election because Bernie was certainly not have a
chance because of how lefty wingling guy he is. So
Biden got handed the keys to the kingdom, commonly got

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handed the right hand man of the kingdom. I think
the American public would be much better off seeing, Well,
we're not really Biden's supposed to talk tonight. Did you
see that he's supposed to give a speech tonight? Really?
What's it about. I'll tell you more of the details
when I want to dig into it, but it's not
that important. Who knows what he's going to look like
and sound like? We haven't really seen this guy since

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Trump has been anaugurat. What it's going to be about? Yeah, yeah,
I'll get to the details in a second. But he's
supposed to talk tonight. He's supposed to like have a
public speech. Kamala has been pretty you know, she's on
social media, but we haven't seen a whole lot of
her since losing the election back in November. And you
know what, that's already what five months ago? Over five
months ago? Now it's crazy. I was fast time five.

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So what's she been up to? I guess we'll find out.
The reason I bring this up is because people in
California were asked, uh, what do you think Kamala Harris
governor of the state of California. This was a survey
conducted by Politico and UC Berkeley's Citron Center, and they
registered voters to select group of policy insiders, which included lawmakers,

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and the registered voters were enthusiastic, with thirty three percent
saying they feel joyful about the possibility of her becoming governor.
Thirty six percent of the policy influencer says they felt
indifferent about it, and four percent said they'd be outraged,
twenty two percent said they were mostly excited, twenty percent
said they were irritated by that. So it basically says

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it's a jumbled mess. Nobody really is super excited about
that if they feel like that about her for governor,
which is a job that probably she could feel is
legitimately more capable and more qualified for than to ever
run for presidents. Again, I can't imagine that her running
for president would be a good idea either, especially when

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we got people like Josh Shapiro, and you have Gavin
Newsome and maybe Big Gretch getting into the way of
trying to become the Democratic nominee. There are several others
out there that could probably make some noise. Why would
the American public actively vote for Kamala. They've had tight
chances to do that they didn't. So I say, if

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you're the Democrats, you got to get back to the
drawing board. Talkback. You can talk to me back on
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leave me up to thirty seconds of good audio. Paul
is in the talkback Heary matt Hey in California. If
they could have the first AI governor, m let's try

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that out. Can't be any worse. Great show, guys, Thanks buddy,
have a great day. I'm actually, you know what, not
a bad idea. They'd be the ones to try it.
Is that not a bad idea? Let's do it. Let's
see what happens, like, how do you elect AI? Though?
That would be the problem. Yeah, surely this won't go wrong.
I'm going to ask AI how an AI model would

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do as governor of California. And you know what they'll do.
What they'll pretend like they're not interested. Oh flattered, But no,
I don't think it's in the best interest of humans.
But no, we're on to you AI. All right, I'll
ask and I'll tell you what it says. Next on
news radio eleven to ten kfa B and were you songer?
All right? Here we go. I asked Chad Gpt how
would AI do as the governor of California? Because that

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was a question because we had Paul in the talkback
tell us that maybe they should go that route. This
is what Chad Gpt said, AI, And you can you
can throw a flag on this if you get to
a point where you dislike. Okay, we're saying AI is
the governor of California. That'd be one wild ride. Let's
break it down where AI could excel one. Data driven Decisions.

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AI is built to analyze massive amounts of data, fast
budget allocations, environmental data, public health trends. AI could process
it all and offer optimized bias free policy suggestions. All
good there, except it's not true. Well, I don't know.
I think maybe it can be. There's always a bias
because they're getting their information from humans. Two, no special interests.

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AI doesn't have donors, lobbyists, or re election worries. It
could focus purely on outcomes without playing political games. Come on, okay,
let's do it. I mean that's true though, right, Like,
if we program this thing to be independent and make
decisions based on a model that exists, or we just
plug in all previous outcomes and it makes decisions based

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on that, where's the bias? It's there wouldn't be sec interests.
Around the clock availability. AI doesn't sleep emergency wildfires at
three am, always on, always alert. That's true too, right,
you don't have to knock on the door and wake
them up. Number four Efficiency and bureaucracy, from DMV systems
to housing permit backlogs. AI could streamline slow government processes

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and improve digital services for residents. Isn't that what we
all want our government to do more for us? However,
it follows up where AI would struggle or totally crash.
Number one Human empathy and judgment. AI lacks emotional intelligence.
Being governor isn't just about data. It's also about leadership,
comfort during crises, negotiation, and understanding people's lived experiences. See

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it's aware of itself. It's aware of itself Matt. Number
two nuanced politics. California is a diverse, complex state. AI
might struggle to navigate cultural sensitivities, local politics, and grassroots activism,
all crucial parts of governing. Who do you tests two?
If AI is running your state, I hope somebody protests

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when they roll out their first initiative, kill all humans,
and now for my first executive order to kill all
humans stop. Number three Accountability and transparency. Who's responsible when
an AI governor makes a mistake? Who programs its ethics?
AI decisions could be seen as opaque or unaccountable. I mean,

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I am applauding to i GPT for being so transparent
in this analysis. Number four legal barriers. US law requires
governors to be human citizens. Even if AI could run
the state, well, it's a legal and constitutional non starter
at least for now. And so it gave me a verdict.
Are you ready hear the verdict? AI would make a
killer chief of staff analyzing data, optimizing workflows, and helping

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make evidence based decisions. But as governor, California's too big,
too diverse, and too human for AI to lead solo. Still,
if AI wrote, some of the speeches sound better than
some of the few humans we've heard, oh, slam dunk.
So then I said, okay, well, is there a state
best suited for AI to be a governor? Because if
it's not California because of those reasons, that maybe something else. Yeah,

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it said Top candidates for AI governance. Yes, m M,
And this is the United States, one of the fifty
states best fit to try an AI governor. Well, Montana,
Montana did not make the top four. How about Nebraska,
it did not make the top four. Okay, you're kind
of in the right mindset, I think, yeah, because you
want it. You don't want a whole lot of people,

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because this could go bad. Correct, that's a really good point.
If you think about less people, you would run right
into number one on the list. Well, that's why I said, Montana.
Who's who's the least I guess Rhode Island. Nope, Okay,
actually pretty dense in population when you look at it. Well, right,
because you want it you know, nice and spread out.
Let's see Montana's bordering the state Okay Wyoming. Bingo Wyoming

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fits because low population, tech forward leadership, and all already
friendly to crypto and blockchain innovation. Did you know that?
Okay bonus? If AI messes up, there are fewer people
to impact while debugging the governor code. There you go.
Also Nevada number two, which is kind of a surprise
to me, but it says tech companies already test AI
and autonomous systems in the state of Nevada already, and

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the state's mix of rural and urban areas could be
a perfect AI pilot. And also an AI governor would
love optimizing casino revenue and managing energy in the desert.
Interesting Number three is Utah high digital literacy, streamlined government services,
and a reputation for clean data infrastructure. Did you know
Utah had that? And here we thought they only had
Mormons in a salty lake. They still do have a

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lot of Mormons in a salty lake. Though also it
says Utah is already good a balancing tech with strong
social values, ideal for a co governor AI setup. Lastly
was Delaware. It was kind of your Rhode Island Point,
but they went with Delaware instead because it's small, efficient,
and very focused on business and digital regulation. A smaller
sandbox for AI to try. It's governing chops could also

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be a model for AI helping with corporate law, finance,
and digital services. It also mentioned that the three states
it would say are the worst suited for AI are Texas,
New York, and Florida. It said Florida between hurricanes headlines
and Florida man AI might short circuit before the first
press conference. That's a little rude to say that about Florida.

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Many Hey, JGBT very aware, very very aware. I don't
think that our computer should be trying to crack jokes.
I like that my computer likes to crack jokes. Thank
you very much. You stay out of my business. I'll
have you know. Anyway. Guess what how about we talk
about some birds. Let's change things up. Let's throw a
wrench into this conversation by having had a fluttery, sing

(15:44):
songy situation. We will talk to my bird guy. His
name's Ken Keffer. He'll be joining me next on news
radio eleven ton KFAB andries on news radio eleven ten
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