May 29, 2025 • 31 mins
Do athletes and celebrities need to tamp down the celebrations and vitriol? Or does it make the game more fun?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Takes us a little bit of radio magics get me
on the air. What you call it magic, it's a
little magic.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Right, Well, you could put it that way, you.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Know, the science. I don't know how it all works,
like all the science.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, you know. I still marvel at the idea that
your voice can go into a microphone through some wires,
and then even go out over a satellite, go through
the air, go to space, come back down somehow still
assembled in the proper way, go through another satellite, down
through some wires, and then come out through people's speakers
across the world. Like, I don't know how all this
(00:32):
stuff works. There's got to be a good explanation for it.
But I just went to community college. So yeah, let's
go with magic.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Magic. That's what we're gonna do. It's magic. Yeah, I've
made the decision anyway. I in the Moine, I had meetings.
I've been meeting with people. It's kind of weak, right,
I don't hit the step count, but I feel like
I've run a marathon. Is that I mean? Yeah, of
those days, right, it's just like man And so today
was one of these I have. I went through a
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drive through real quick, and the biggest mountain dew they have.
This can't be good for me, but I'm putting it down.
What about you? What are you drinking over there?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Real quick?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
What ounces? What are we talking like? Biggest mountain dew?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I don't think it's as big as the one we
get at the gas station, because I think that's forty four.
I think this is probably like thirty two.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, I guess, but it's a bottle. You grabbed that
out of a bottle.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
No, it's out of fountain.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh, I got you? Okay, sure, yeah, I mean that's
a lot of do for sure. I still I'm sipping
on the I need to go replenish my drink. But
I have been enjoying the cucumber fresh cucumber lemonade from
Busy Vegan that we had dropped off with their food
earlier today that they, among many others, will be out
at Taste of Omaha starting tomorrow through the weekend at
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the Omaha Riverfront. And I'm really enjoying.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
This delightful, delicious Anything you put cucumber in just smells
tastes fresh.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Anyway, cheers, cheers on this Thursday Thursday to you out
there in radio land. That are listening to me through
the magic of radio.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Cheers.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, okay, Now we'll get to more Elon Musk a
little bit later on the show. We'll get to more
talk about Nebraska baseball. We'll talk about the Pardons. I
wanted to bring this up because I think it's a
question that we all have. Where is the line of sportsmanship?
Where is the line of sportsmanship? That is, uh, Matt,
you're you're a guy who I mean, you don't you
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don't like you can I say this, you don't like
guys who pound their chest and are looking for conflict,
like like, that's just not your your jam.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, that you probably have me cornered there. I generally
I lean to the side of sportsmanship. I'm a I'm
not a fan of egregious tom foolery, We'll put it
that way. There's been there's a line, right like the
the bat flip after the home run, depending on how
you do it in baseball. If it's done in a
sort of like happiness sort of move, big whoop, But
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if you do it in a sort of demonstrative stare
down the pitcher, intimidation kind of move, it really he
is one of those you know, it when you see it,
kind of things like celebrate but also you've.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Been there, Yeah, a line of disrespect. I can't play
this audio, so I'm not gonna. But did you see
what happened at the game four Knicks and Pacers in Indianapolis?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I didn't see it, but was there more? I can
only assume it was the Pacers gloating in the Knicks
faces because they seem to have New York's numbers every
single playoff series those two meet up at.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, so there were a couple of really high profile
Knicks fans who were in attendance. Spike Lee was obviously there.
The new faces that we're seeing at all these games
is Ben Stiller and Timothy Shallome.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Mm mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And they were there. They had bought front row seats.
They wanted to cheer their Nicks on while they were
in Indy. Can you name me one high profile Pacers
fan who who says that he's a proud Pacers fan
and he talks about it a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I don't know if I can. I know that Larry
Bird was like their coach in g That's the only
person I think he's probably and he's from Indiana, so
is he a Pacers fan. That's the name that I
think of. But other than that, other than Reggie Miller
who played for them, I can't think of a person
Pat McAfee. Okay, sure, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
He played for the Colts, still lives in Indianapolis, does
this show in Indianapolis. By the way, Pat McAfee show,
which he's a polarizing individual. I have my own opinions.
He blocked me on Twitter probably five years ago or so. Really, yeah,
he blocked me, But I found out he blocks everybody
who says anything even remotely negative about him.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well can you say what you said or would you
prefer not?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I can because in twenty twenty, the XFL started up
again and he was named as one of the guys.
And I'm a McAfee fan. I think that the energy
that he has, you know, I was really excited. This
is a new type of athlete, former athlete. He's a punter,
but he's a former athlete that just has a huge personality,
loves being in front of the microphone. He can really
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hype people up. I see. I was listening to stories
he was telling on radio shows why he was still
a player before he even try to dabble in getting
into the media world. He's a funny guy, the way
that he talks about stuff. I really think that I
was one of the people that was kind of early on,
you know, him on the Pat McAfee bandwagon before this
was before he even got his own show. This is
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why he was still kind of a barstool guy. He
was doing dabbling with ESPN, and he was named as
a like a part of the commentary teams for the
XFL when it came back in twenty twenty, and I
knew he was like dabbling with calling games also, he
wanted to call some football games and kind of bring
that energy into the booth. I didn't think he would
be the next John Madden, but I felt like he
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could be a really interesting NFL commentator because nobody usually,
you know, like you think of Gus Johnson when you
talk about like high energy guys in the broadcast booth.
But McAfee is a he would be an analyst, and
he's really smart. I mean the way that he talks
about football, he's really smart. So I was kind of
rooting for that, and then I found out he was
going to be a reporter and that he didn't like
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so much. She only did one game, and then he
just kind of quit on the XFL coverage because he
didn't like the job that he was given. And I
noticed that, and I noticed that every time that anybody
said anything to Pat McAfee about anything, if it wasn't
exactly Pat's way, he would get really sensitive and defensive
about it. And so I kind of fell off the
wagon a little bit. And I saw somebody post something
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on x and I just kind of commented underneath it.
I think I don't remember the exactly what I said,
but it was something like, you know, Pat just is
too he's too soft, like he you know, he wants
to be this big media personality, yet he just won't
like he has to have everything done exactly his way.
And now look at him. He's making millions of dollars
to have an uncensored show on ESPN. He's getting everything
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that he wants. But I don't know, like I just
I felt like, you know, the momentum behind him, he
just seemed like he had the wrong attitude. Well anyway,
I'm blocked by him on social media, That's what I said,
and he apparently because he does at the time, he
was doing giveaways from him show like he would do
like random giveaways of stuff, and the way he described
it and I listened to this one time, that he
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would just block people that said anything negative so they
would never have a chance to win one of his
giveaways on social media. So gotcha. I apparently angered Pat
McAfee with my little comment. He's reading all the comments
and he's just blocking people that have negative things to
say about him. Whatever. Anyway, Pat McAfee was there and
they gave him a live microphone in the Gamebridge field
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House there in Indianapolis, and of course he used some
pretty colorful language because that's what Pat McAfee does, and
he called out all the big city slickers, the Shalo Maze,
the ben Stillers, the spike Lees, and says send their
behinds back to New York, using more colorful language than
I said, and it really fired up the Indianapolis crowd
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as you could imagine, right, and he's wearing Pacers gear
and he's a high profile guy at this point. What
do you think did that cross the line? Was that
across the line there, Matt?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I'd have to hear it because I could see it
done in in kind of a playful way that everybody
was having fun with, but then also knowing Pat McAfee,
I can't imagine it was done that way.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So well, yeah, it's done like in a I'm being serious,
but we're all gonna go back have a beer and
drink about this, right.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, he kind of has. I mean, it doesn't surprise
me that he's done some work with professional wrestling because
he kind of has that sort of air about him
that's like, I'm really serious.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But it's a work.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
We all kind of know. It's a bit Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now. I think that's part of it. And I think
if Shalame showed up and wanted to be on his show,
he would love to have him on, and they, you know,
goof around with each other, but you know, in that
moment you give him a life mic in front of
twenty thousand fans in Indianapolis, he's wanting to hype up
the home fans, and he sent his ire to the
celebrities that showed up for the Knicks. Well, there's another
Indian Indiana Pacers fan that many people probably didn't know
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that he's a Pacers fan.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
His name Little Bitty About Jack and Diane John Cougar Mellencamp.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
John Mellencamp a big Pacers fan.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, I had no idea exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
John Mellencamp, three hours ago has posted on social media
this is a couple of days after that game. By
the way, the Knicks Pacers games have been very entertaining
for anyone who likes basketball or sports. I attended Game
four in Indianapolis. Hoo's your hospitality. I was embarrassed when somebody,
under whose direction I don't know, called out some of
the people who had made the trip from New York
to support their team and in turn support our team.
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The audience booed these people. I'd say that was not
Hoo's your hospitality. One could only say it's poor, poor sportsmanship.
I was not proud to be a Hoosier, and I
have lived here my entire life on behalf of most Hoosiers.
I would like to apologize for our poor behavior. I'm
sure the Pacers had nothing to do with this SmackDown
John Mellencamp. Uh what John Mellencamp calling out Pat McAfee.
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I'm not on my Bengo card for this calendar year.
I'd have to say, so, Matt, are you team Cougar,
Are you team Pat?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I guess I gotta go with team small town John Cougar.
Mellencamp here.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah. See, he's not at all happy about the Pat
McAfee antics and the fact that he got all the
people in Gainbridge Field House to boo Shalomey, Ben Stiller
and Spike Lee. So I don't know now, See, if
I'm a Pacers fan, I want to boo those guys.
Like the documentary, Remember the Winning Time documentary with Reggie
Miller in it, Like Reggie versus Spike Lee. I mean,
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like you need some of that venom to just create
some like real memorable memories, right, like the lasting impact,
the iconic stuff that you know, we go back and
live that Indiana Versus New York thing. I mean it's
beautiful and it's kind of rehashing itself the last couple
of years in the playoffs. I think it's good for
the NBA to have kind of that venom in a
couple of markets that you're like, why are the Why
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does Indiana and New York hate each other? Like it doesn't.
It's not a natural rivalry. It's not Boston or Philadelphia
or La or anything like that. No, it's Indiana. But
John Mellencamp, who by the way, he's a Pacers fan.
He likes basketball and was born in Indiana, so that
tells you what you need to know about that. But
he's just like that to cross the line for me. Now,
maybe he's too close to the sun, Maybe he knows
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these guys personally, maybe he's too much of a celebrity
to feel like that's something that needs to happen. But
a couple of days later, he's still inspired by the
fact that he still feels disgusted by that that he's
going to post on social media that he hates the
way that the Pacers or or that Pat McAfee handled it.
He's trying to he's trying to distance himself from He
doesn't think the Pacer has anything to do with Pat
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McAfee getting a live microphone and getting the fans taboo
the celebrities.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh, and they probably did, though they had to of Yeah,
I mean at least at least some part of that
organism that the stadium or whoever, the media team McAfee.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, McAfee is a high profile Pacer supporter. Of course
they're going to try to coattail ride him like that
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
This playoff rivalry has always been very salty. There's always
been a lot of gestures and words exchange between these teams. Yeah,
I don't know. I mean, obviously he's a long term fan,
so he realizes that and something struck a nerve. I'd
have to go back and listen to what Pat McAfee said.
Maybe he was pretty rough. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, you can go back and listen to it. But
I don't wanna. I don't wan don't play it, don't play.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Was he dropping? Was he dropping four letter words?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Not four letter words, but words that I don't want
to play on the radio, at least on my radio show.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
See that's a difference maker right there. If he's blasting
out words that you don't want kids here and over
a live microphone like that, then I feel like, Okay,
then old Cougar's well within his his uh yeah, his
way there.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
All right, we'll talk more about this. You got you know,
a thought on what the line is there? I'd love
to hear from you at four oh two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten or email me Emory at kfab
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Speaker 4 (12:35):
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Speaker 1 (12:41):
Because it's really a McAfee stick. I mean, he's unabashed
and that's just who he is. At that Pacers game
that mellencamp was at and he said he did a
big disservice to Hoosiers, he's getting flamed in the comments, dude,
Like like people are just like it was all in
good fun and it's not that big of a deal.
McAfee's a legend. He can do what he wants stuff
like that. A whole surprised John Mellencamp's offended by something
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stuff like that, Right, I don't does does that does
the court of public opinion change your opinion on this
at all? Matt, Because I feel like I don't want
to be a McAfee apologist because I'm not. But at
the same time, that's him. I mean, it's unapologetically him.
And I think if you're an Indiana fan of any kind,
you're like, finally there's somebody that's like one of us
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that wants to to tout from the rooftops that they're
a fan of Indiana stuff and they live in Indiana,
they love Indiana all these New York fans LA fans.
You know, you got the stephen A. Smith going out
on TV talking about how much they love the Knicks.
You have all these people saying they want LA to win.
You know, you got Bill Simmons and Boston and all
these different media types, and now you have one of
your own. You really want him to lean into it,
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don't you, because that makes you feel proud to be,
you know, a Pacers fan.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Well, I see, here's my bias. I really find Pat
McAfee to be quite obnoxious.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So I hundred percent agree. I don't disagree. But if you,
if you, uh, I don't know. If somebody just emailed
me Pat McAfee and what he said here, you may
want to have like let me, I'm not gonna turn
my my mic on. But he did like an explanation
here about Uh. I can't I can't read this and
talk at the same time what he says because I
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don't wanna. I don't know, I don't want to say.
I don't want him to say a bad word. But
maybe i'll listen to this in the break and maybe
we can play because apparently he's he's already replied to
this he's already kind of had an answer, so uh yeah,
and and so I'll potentially play this, but I generally
agree with you. I'm not into the empowerment of Pat McAfee.
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He doesn't need us anyway, right he blocked me on Twitter?
What am I like? Like, I'm nothing to this guy?
But are we a little over overtly sensitive? Like I
think we are? Well?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And again i'd have to i'd I need to have
more context here, but generally, you know, he's entitled to
his opinion and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, I just I can't tell this off. There's no way.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Right there gives me enough context to just feel like, yeah,
you know I I I think that you can. I
think that you can voice your opinion without trying to
gate keep. But at the same time, you know, I don't.
I don't appreciate all the saltiness I you know, I
I But again, to each their own, I just I
but I'm kind of a bad source here because I've
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always found the whole Pat McAfee stick to be tiring
and just generally obnoxious. I'm just not a fan of
his to begin with. I just think that to me,
he's just a sign of I mean, the way you
explained his rise to relevancy is a perfect example of
how it happens these days. You do kind of have
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to be this, you know, super reactionary, really loud, not
not necessarily intelligent, but really bombastic personality that just continues
to go over the top over and over again. And
I think it's just obnoxious and the perfect example of that.
I'm a New York Knicks fan, and so this is
not me against the Pacers stephen A Smith, you know,
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so I just think that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, but Stephen Ay has made a career without having
to say the kind of language and tone that McAfee
and his cronies have like leaned into. Yeah right, they
are saying things that no one ever thought they'd hear
on ESPN, and ESPN has them put a disclaimer up
and says, hey, we're just joshing around. Don't get a
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thin in about the stuff that we're saying, because this
is just how dudes talk. It's just kind of a
barstool sports offshoot. Yeah, and not to say that you
can't like that, but it's I haven't met a woman
who likes Pat McAfee. Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, he's just he's a frat bro, you know, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
He's an overgrown forty year old frat bro.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, which to me is kind of cringey. I'm not
gonna lie. It's kind of like, hey, dude, you're a
little old for that stuff you were up pumped all
years ago. Yeah, he's definitely older than me. He's got Yeah,
he's in his forties, right.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
He's got to be.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean, either way, it doesn't even matter. You know.
What matters is the fact that he hits a a
demographic and the same thing with the barstool guys. It's
it's chiefly four men who wish that they could still
be twenty three and only care about sports. And that's
not bad. It's not bad because I think you and
me in a perfect world, like we could just escape
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and just watch games all day and like not have
to care about real responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh, he's thirty eight, by the way, he's actually younger
than I thought.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Okay, so thirty eight, so but still, I mean he's
the way that he and his bros talk, they sound
like they're twenty two year olds. Yeah, and that's not bad.
I'm not saying that it's bad and he's obviously making
a lot of money on it, but it's just weird,
you know. It's just a weird thing to me, and
it speaks to the younger generation. That's why ESPN loves
having him, and he brings a lot of juice because
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of how different he is. But he's not trying to
get you and me. He blocked me on Twitter. I
just I had a minor critique for the way that
he handles himself and he saw it somehow on Twitter
and blocked me. So that's I mean, like in whatever
I mean, Well.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Cougar Mellencamp is probably blocked now too.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Ah yeah, no doubt and no doubt even if Pat
McAfee hopefully he knows who he is, would be my
I would hope, but I don't know. I don't know
what the response will be. But they got another game.
This is that tonight game five tonight. Yes it is
in New York, so we'll see what the response is
going to be. An MSG in the Mecca it is
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Speaker 1 (18:28):
Ken Welcome to the show. Followings are open by the way,
four rold two five to five, eight to eleven ten.
If you're interested in calling in four two, five, five
eight eleven ten, Ken, welcome in. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well, I wanted to talk about the Big Ken baseball
tournament that was in town last week. Yeah, you know,
and in between pictures or whatever, they got to play music.
They got to play that rap crap that's just terrible.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Well, I mean, Ken, I mean that music subjective, right,
I mean, like I personally like the good rock and
roll stuff. Give me, like, give me some outfield, give
me some Ozzy Osbourne or something if I was walking
out there. But I think if I'm not mistaken, So
this is interesting. And I was talking to my wife
about this because we were out one of the games
over the weekend. I think the Big Ten because you know,
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they're bigger schools and they have like big PA systems
at all their stadiums. They have walk up songs, so
like when you're coming to the plate to bat, you
can have you can pick what song it is. So
they are guys that have country songs. There are guys
that have like Latin songs. Or Spanish songs. There are
guys that have hard rock and music. There was a
guy had bon Jovi and everybody was like singing bon
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Jovi on the Huskers when every time he'd come up,
and the pictures had the same thing. So when the
picture gets brought into the game, they have like a
list of the songs that are played, and then Charles
schwab Field, the people that are just running the tournament
will play their walk up songs. So I think the
players get to select the music when they come into
the game or they come into the plate. If that
makes a difference. Is he gone it did? Can up?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
He did?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, I had to dump him too. I don't know.
That was one of those on the line sort of things.
I'm not sure if he said what I thought he said,
but I'm not gonna you know, nah a chance.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, oh okay, Well either way, I mean, I don't
disagree with what he's saying. I maybe don't like a
lot of the music either. But that's the thing about baseball.
Those guys get to pick those songs.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, whatever gets some hyped, get some hyped, so that's
what they get. It's not for you, can it's for
them you.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Want to know something else though. It's an interesting topic. Actually,
now that we bring it up, college baseball is fun
because it's not as solved as Major league baseball, I think, yeah,
and it's really accessible. You can find, you know, solid
college baseball at almost every level, and you may not
be seeing those guys in Major League baseball one day.
But the baseball is generally pretty competitive, and there's a
lot of runs score because it's not just like a
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ton of pitchers that can overpower the other team, you know,
not that I don't love good pitching, but it's just like,
I don't know, there's a bit of excitement when you
know a bunch of runs are potentially going to be scored,
if that makes sense. So I like college baseball however,
and again this is an opinion. This is incredibly subjective.
This is me and how I'm seeing things. But I
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also like this goes back, honestly to the melon camp
versus McAfee thing. I'm finding like pitchers are yelling when
they get strikeouts in the fifth inning of games, and
they're like getting so amped, and it's an emotion. It's passion,
and I don't mind emotion and passion but in the
fifth inning, you strike out a guy with a runner
on second, and there's you know, it's a three run game,
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Like it's not that big a like, is it wrong
for me to be like, come on, man, we don't
have to like yell at the other dugout and like
do a gigantic fist pump because you've got a guy
out in the fifth inning, you know. And then the
guys that are you know, getting like hitting a home
run and they do the bat flip that goes like
to the ceiling right like like if we were in
a dome, it'd be scraping the roof of the dome
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and grow it that high. Well, maybe not that high,
but I've seen some high ones. I've seen some guys,
you know, like they'll hit the home run, they'll take
a couple of walks, you know, just like just walk
a few steps, and then they chucked the bat, you know,
into the air. They've actually had to review this because
this is a rule in baseball now in college baseball,
because they're trying to avoid teams like hating each other
and like clearing the benches and wanting to fight. So
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if you like, if you batflip the batflip itself is legal,
but if you batflip in the direction of someone or
if you're like the opposing dugout especially, they can throw
you out of the game. Like they don't even have
to like talk to you about it. They're like, oh,
he intended to do that, like he looked at him
or he said something to him, and then he like
batflipped them. It's kind of like the unsportsman like penalty
(22:34):
when you throw the football at an opponent right like
you when you get tackled and then you just like
chuck the ball in their direction. You can get a
fifteen yard penalty for that. Well, it's like that in baseball,
except they're so worried that these increasingly demonstrative acts by
baseball players are going to, you know, result in guys
wanting to get into fights on the field. They're just
(22:54):
throwing guys out as soon as they think that there's
any sign of aggression instead of just celebration. But they
all the guys who were doing that, not that you
shouldn't be passionate, and I like the passion It just
seems like, you know, we don't have to celebrate every
single thing that you do as like you just won
the World Series. I mean, it wasn't all that long
ago that that wasn't the case. And maybe people are like, well,
that's why baseball was dying. There wasn't enough celebration. There's
(23:15):
not enough passion in the game. It just seems like
a misplaced passion. You know. You remember Jose Bautista from
the Blue Jays, mm hmm, remember his big home run.
It was like ten years ago now. He hit the
home run against the Rangers in the playoffs and they
came back and they ended up like taking the lead
in like a super chaotic inning and it was so
loud in that place, and he hit a home run
and he watched it fly and then he just kind
(23:36):
of like tossed the bat. That was an appropriate batflip moment,
totally appropriate. There's never gonna be a bigger home run
in that guy's life than the one that he just hit.
And now we have guys that are twenty years old
playing for these colleges and they're striking out a guy
in the fifth inning, acting like they just like pulled
off the miracle of the century to save the game
for their team. Am I being a lame? Oh? Because
(23:57):
I think that that's a little too much.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, I tend to agree it really is. I know
what when you see it kind of thing, you know
when it's over the top and when it's not. And
I think generally if it's done in happiness, that's one thing,
but if it's done in spite or intimidation, that's another.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, And you're just like when you're looking at the sorry,
I have my computer sound on, when you're looking at
the batter and you do that and you're telling him
to sit down or something, it's like, come on, man, well,
like like why you're gonna It's like he's gonna beat
again in three innings at least, you know, like maybe
he'll be up next inning. Who knows, like it's the
fifth inning. I don't know. And maybe I I miss
(24:34):
a time where we were picking our spots with the
big celebrations. That's all right, but that there've always been
some great athletes like Michael Jordan, Like he was a
great trash talker, but he was never like super demonstrative
with his celebrations, Like he was never taunting guys on
the court. He would, you know, talk to him. But
then you look at a Muhammad Ali which I still
think a lot of people consider one of the greatest
boxers of all time. He was taunting guys weeks before
(24:57):
the fight even happened, you know, like uh for him. So,
I don't know, maybe there's a maybe there's a line
in there and I'm maybe I'm not alpha enough. I
don't know, but I'm saying I don't get the McAfee stick.
I don't I don't get the I don't get the
deal with you know, I don't understand the whole Barstool
sports kind of culture of you know, guys who are
(25:18):
forty acting like frat bros. It just doesn't make sense
to me. But it doesn't appeal to me.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
What do you think about? Okay, so Barstool, I agree
because Barstool generally, especially the guy who runs the thing,
I don't know. I'm not a fan of that guy
at Yeah, I think that guy, Yeah, you want to
talk about like, oh, you're not an alpha like that
guy's just don't want to be. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I'm not a fan of him. He's got a lot
of money, so he's got a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
To me, like, he just seems like an entitled frat boy.
Trust fund kid who just snubs his nose at people,
and I'm just not a fan of of the way
he goes about it. But how about Caleb Presley, the
Mulla guy, Yeah, the guy from a Sunday Conversation.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I mean, he's a different breed. It's pretty funny that, yeah,
I mean, they're a funny guy. I mean, I can't
tell you I don't find some of those guys entertaining
and funny, because that'd be a lie. And I think Portnoy,
you know, like honestly, I agree. I think it's funny
when people can clown on Portnoy when the Celtics are
getting beat by the Nicks in the second round. He's
a big Celtics in Boston guy. I love it when
his teams lose because he looks like such a clown.
(26:20):
But at the same time, he's done a lot for
like small businesses, and he's been like pretty generous with
the way that he spends his money. And he hypes
up like he does the pizza challenge thing. He goes
to small towns and tries their pizza and he actually
helps with a lot of business for them. So I mean,
I can't totally hate the guy. Yeah, but if you
look at his personal life, and this is no, it's
none of my business, but he is like a forty
(26:40):
five year old frat boy. I mean he literally lives
that lifestyle. Like he doesn't have a partner, Like he's
bringing girls in all the time, you know, at all
all points, he like gets bored and he starts day trading
with his you know, millions of dollars and like playing
the stock market. And a lot of people just kind
of like the fact that he's they they live they're
living vicariously through the I mean, he's living the life
(27:01):
that a lot of dudes that are our age wish
they could live. That's just not me. So I don't know,
and we're not the target audience. We have to just
come to terms with that. That's true. And I don't
know why the twenty year old, you know, pitchers of
these baseball teams are celebrating strikeouts in the fifth inning.
I don't know why they have to, you know, demonstratively
batfoot because they did something good. It's like, oh, are
(27:22):
you not used to doing something good? That's what this
looks like to me. It's like, Wow, I actually did
something good. Look at me.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Go yay me.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I'm not buying it. I just feel like maybe this
is my maybe I'm getting old moment. Maybe I'm just
getting a little old and I'm not just seeing what
all the fuss about this stuff is. But I don't know.
I like to think I'm kind of an old soul
at heart. I like to stay kind of in touch
with what the young people like. I'm not so sure
I'm there anymore. That's probably how we all feel at
(27:50):
some point of our lives, but maybe not those guys.
Congrats to them if they don't. Three forty nine will
come back with more on news radio eleven ten Kfab and.
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Speaker 1 (28:05):
I just sound weird saying this, right, because it feels
like the definition of what masculinity or outward masculinity is,
I just don't remember, you know, outside of a few
really special athletes that like Muhammad Ali is a great example, uh,
you know, professional wrestlers, obviously her playing a part as
much as they are actual athletes. It just seems like
(28:26):
we've gotten to a spot where everybody wants to be
like like they want to have a good moment, and
then they want to do a fist pump. They want
to like pump everything up, and I'm just not that
kind of guy. You like, have you played pick up
basketball recently, Matt, Like in the last five years or so.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Not recently, but I am definitely missing some pickup basketball.
I love it and I hope to again soon.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
All right, Well, we got to get a game to
go in or some I think so too.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Last time we talked about this, we got a text
from mister Scott Boarh. He's saying any time any place.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So yeah, yeah, we should do that. We need to.
We need to do that'd be good for us.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Do we have to get one other person know to
make a two on two or in and out?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
No, we should. We should just keep inviting people. We
should get, you know, at least three on three because
then that's that's actual basketball game at that point. Okay,
But anyway, I I play, and like I'm I'm not
a demonstrative guy. I hit a lot of like like
deep shots. I'm more of a three point guy when
I play. But I don't like talking stuff when I'm
(29:24):
out there, and I don't like being super demonstrative with
any celebrations. But they're guys talking all the time, Like,
and they're talking to each other, they're talking trash, they're
they're you know, saying, oh, I could do this all day,
or you know, like they they make a move and
they get a layup and they're talking to the guy
that they just burned, or they're the guy guarding him,
you know, stops a guy and he's like, you can't
(29:45):
come through me or whatever, And I'm just like, man,
is this so toxic? It feels like as much as
guys are talking, and maybe I'm just not in on it.
Maybe I just like, I don't understand what those guys'
relationships are, but it seems like they're like one bad
interaction away from like throwing hands. Like that's how it's
like how I see it from from where I'm at
on the court, And every time I make a shot
(30:07):
or I do anything that's positive, I mean, I'm just
playing the game. I'm trying to stay completely out of
the way. And maybe that's you know why, you know,
sometimes I get picked over because I'm not demonstrative enough.
But I don't know, I don't I don't like I
just don't like that, you know, I don't like the masculinity,
or like the testosterone so high that it just feels
(30:28):
like you're ready to fight someone at a moment's notice
for no reason. But alas you know, that's just the
current situation that we find ourselves to be in. I
didn't want to talk about baseball, just you know, when
we talk about Nebraska and Creighton getting set to go
for the regionals, the Chapel Hill Regional, which Nebraska is
(30:50):
a part of, is going to be taking place. We'll
get you some hardcore information on that when we come
back on the other side of this hour. Also talk
about the latest adjustments to the Huscar football schedule and
what those look like. Got to talk about some of
the big news in the country. Elon Musk is officially
done with Doge, and plenty of other things that will
(31:12):
be happening into the four o'clock hours, So stay with
us live here on news radio eleven ten kfab
Takes us a little bit of radio magics get me
on the air. What you call it magic, it's a
little magic.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Right, Well, you could put it that way, you.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Know, the science. I don't know how it all works,
like all the science.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, you know. I still marvel at the idea that
your voice can go into a microphone through some wires,
and then even go out over a satellite, go through
the air, go to space, come back down somehow still
assembled in the proper way, go through another satellite, down
through some wires, and then come out through people's speakers
across the world. Like, I don't know how all this
(00:32):
stuff works. There's got to be a good explanation for it.
But I just went to community college. So yeah, let's
go with magic.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Magic. That's what we're gonna do. It's magic. Yeah, I've
made the decision anyway. I in the Moine, I had meetings.
I've been meeting with people. It's kind of weak, right,
I don't hit the step count, but I feel like
I've run a marathon. Is that I mean? Yeah, of
those days, right, it's just like man And so today
was one of these I have. I went through a
(00:58):
drive through real quick, and the biggest mountain dew they have.
This can't be good for me, but I'm putting it down.
What about you? What are you drinking over there?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Real quick?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
What ounces? What are we talking like? Biggest mountain dew?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I don't think it's as big as the one we
get at the gas station, because I think that's forty four.
I think this is probably like thirty two.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, I guess, but it's a bottle. You grabbed that
out of a bottle.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
No, it's out of fountain.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh, I got you? Okay, sure, yeah, I mean that's
a lot of do for sure. I still I'm sipping
on the I need to go replenish my drink. But
I have been enjoying the cucumber fresh cucumber lemonade from
Busy Vegan that we had dropped off with their food
earlier today that they, among many others, will be out
at Taste of Omaha starting tomorrow through the weekend at
(01:43):
the Omaha Riverfront. And I'm really enjoying.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
This delightful, delicious Anything you put cucumber in just smells
tastes fresh.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Anyway, cheers, cheers on this Thursday Thursday to you out
there in radio land. That are listening to me through
the magic of radio.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Cheers.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, okay, Now we'll get to more Elon Musk a
little bit later on the show. We'll get to more
talk about Nebraska baseball. We'll talk about the Pardons. I
wanted to bring this up because I think it's a
question that we all have. Where is the line of sportsmanship?
Where is the line of sportsmanship? That is, uh, Matt,
you're you're a guy who I mean, you don't you
(02:22):
don't like you can I say this, you don't like
guys who pound their chest and are looking for conflict,
like like, that's just not your your jam.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, that you probably have me cornered there. I generally
I lean to the side of sportsmanship. I'm a I'm
not a fan of egregious tom foolery, We'll put it
that way. There's been there's a line, right like the
the bat flip after the home run, depending on how
you do it in baseball. If it's done in a
sort of like happiness sort of move, big whoop, But
(02:55):
if you do it in a sort of demonstrative stare
down the pitcher, intimidation kind of move, it really he
is one of those you know, it when you see it,
kind of things like celebrate but also you've.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Been there, Yeah, a line of disrespect. I can't play
this audio, so I'm not gonna. But did you see
what happened at the game four Knicks and Pacers in Indianapolis?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I didn't see it, but was there more? I can
only assume it was the Pacers gloating in the Knicks
faces because they seem to have New York's numbers every
single playoff series those two meet up at.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, so there were a couple of really high profile
Knicks fans who were in attendance. Spike Lee was obviously there.
The new faces that we're seeing at all these games
is Ben Stiller and Timothy Shallome.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Mm mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And they were there. They had bought front row seats.
They wanted to cheer their Nicks on while they were
in Indy. Can you name me one high profile Pacers
fan who who says that he's a proud Pacers fan
and he talks about it a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I don't know if I can. I know that Larry
Bird was like their coach in g That's the only
person I think he's probably and he's from Indiana, so
is he a Pacers fan. That's the name that I
think of. But other than that, other than Reggie Miller
who played for them, I can't think of a person
Pat McAfee. Okay, sure, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
He played for the Colts, still lives in Indianapolis, does
this show in Indianapolis. By the way, Pat McAfee show,
which he's a polarizing individual. I have my own opinions.
He blocked me on Twitter probably five years ago or so. Really, yeah,
he blocked me, But I found out he blocks everybody
who says anything even remotely negative about him.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well can you say what you said or would you
prefer not?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I can because in twenty twenty, the XFL started up
again and he was named as one of the guys.
And I'm a McAfee fan. I think that the energy
that he has, you know, I was really excited. This
is a new type of athlete, former athlete. He's a punter,
but he's a former athlete that just has a huge personality,
loves being in front of the microphone. He can really
(04:55):
hype people up. I see. I was listening to stories
he was telling on radio shows why he was still
a player before he even try to dabble in getting
into the media world. He's a funny guy, the way
that he talks about stuff. I really think that I
was one of the people that was kind of early on,
you know, him on the Pat McAfee bandwagon before this
was before he even got his own show. This is
(05:17):
why he was still kind of a barstool guy. He
was doing dabbling with ESPN, and he was named as
a like a part of the commentary teams for the
XFL when it came back in twenty twenty, and I
knew he was like dabbling with calling games also, he
wanted to call some football games and kind of bring
that energy into the booth. I didn't think he would
be the next John Madden, but I felt like he
(05:38):
could be a really interesting NFL commentator because nobody usually,
you know, like you think of Gus Johnson when you
talk about like high energy guys in the broadcast booth.
But McAfee is a he would be an analyst, and
he's really smart. I mean the way that he talks
about football, he's really smart. So I was kind of
rooting for that, and then I found out he was
going to be a reporter and that he didn't like
(05:59):
so much. She only did one game, and then he
just kind of quit on the XFL coverage because he
didn't like the job that he was given. And I
noticed that, and I noticed that every time that anybody
said anything to Pat McAfee about anything, if it wasn't
exactly Pat's way, he would get really sensitive and defensive
about it. And so I kind of fell off the
wagon a little bit. And I saw somebody post something
(06:21):
on x and I just kind of commented underneath it.
I think I don't remember the exactly what I said,
but it was something like, you know, Pat just is
too he's too soft, like he you know, he wants
to be this big media personality, yet he just won't
like he has to have everything done exactly his way.
And now look at him. He's making millions of dollars
to have an uncensored show on ESPN. He's getting everything
(06:44):
that he wants. But I don't know, like I just
I felt like, you know, the momentum behind him, he
just seemed like he had the wrong attitude. Well anyway,
I'm blocked by him on social media, That's what I said,
and he apparently because he does at the time, he
was doing giveaways from him show like he would do
like random giveaways of stuff, and the way he described
it and I listened to this one time, that he
(07:05):
would just block people that said anything negative so they
would never have a chance to win one of his
giveaways on social media. So gotcha. I apparently angered Pat
McAfee with my little comment. He's reading all the comments
and he's just blocking people that have negative things to
say about him. Whatever. Anyway, Pat McAfee was there and
they gave him a live microphone in the Gamebridge field
(07:26):
House there in Indianapolis, and of course he used some
pretty colorful language because that's what Pat McAfee does, and
he called out all the big city slickers, the Shalo Maze,
the ben Stillers, the spike Lees, and says send their
behinds back to New York, using more colorful language than
I said, and it really fired up the Indianapolis crowd
(07:47):
as you could imagine, right, and he's wearing Pacers gear
and he's a high profile guy at this point. What
do you think did that cross the line? Was that
across the line there, Matt?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I'd have to hear it because I could see it
done in in kind of a playful way that everybody
was having fun with, but then also knowing Pat McAfee,
I can't imagine it was done that way.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So well, yeah, it's done like in a I'm being serious,
but we're all gonna go back have a beer and
drink about this, right.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, he kind of has. I mean, it doesn't surprise
me that he's done some work with professional wrestling because
he kind of has that sort of air about him
that's like, I'm really serious.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But it's a work.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
We all kind of know. It's a bit Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now. I think that's part of it. And I think
if Shalame showed up and wanted to be on his show,
he would love to have him on, and they, you know,
goof around with each other, but you know, in that
moment you give him a life mic in front of
twenty thousand fans in Indianapolis, he's wanting to hype up
the home fans, and he sent his ire to the
celebrities that showed up for the Knicks. Well, there's another
Indian Indiana Pacers fan that many people probably didn't know
(08:48):
that he's a Pacers fan.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
His name Little Bitty About Jack and Diane John Cougar Mellencamp.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
John Mellencamp a big Pacers fan.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, I had no idea exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
John Mellencamp, three hours ago has posted on social media
this is a couple of days after that game. By
the way, the Knicks Pacers games have been very entertaining
for anyone who likes basketball or sports. I attended Game
four in Indianapolis. Hoo's your hospitality. I was embarrassed when somebody,
under whose direction I don't know, called out some of
the people who had made the trip from New York
to support their team and in turn support our team.
(09:22):
The audience booed these people. I'd say that was not
Hoo's your hospitality. One could only say it's poor, poor sportsmanship.
I was not proud to be a Hoosier, and I
have lived here my entire life on behalf of most Hoosiers.
I would like to apologize for our poor behavior. I'm
sure the Pacers had nothing to do with this SmackDown
John Mellencamp. Uh what John Mellencamp calling out Pat McAfee.
(09:45):
I'm not on my Bengo card for this calendar year.
I'd have to say, so, Matt, are you team Cougar,
Are you team Pat?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I guess I gotta go with team small town John Cougar.
Mellencamp here.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah. See, he's not at all happy about the Pat
McAfee antics and the fact that he got all the
people in Gainbridge Field House to boo Shalomey, Ben Stiller
and Spike Lee. So I don't know now, See, if
I'm a Pacers fan, I want to boo those guys.
Like the documentary, Remember the Winning Time documentary with Reggie
Miller in it, Like Reggie versus Spike Lee. I mean,
(10:21):
like you need some of that venom to just create
some like real memorable memories, right, like the lasting impact,
the iconic stuff that you know, we go back and
live that Indiana Versus New York thing. I mean it's
beautiful and it's kind of rehashing itself the last couple
of years in the playoffs. I think it's good for
the NBA to have kind of that venom in a
couple of markets that you're like, why are the Why
(10:42):
does Indiana and New York hate each other? Like it doesn't.
It's not a natural rivalry. It's not Boston or Philadelphia
or La or anything like that. No, it's Indiana. But
John Mellencamp, who by the way, he's a Pacers fan.
He likes basketball and was born in Indiana, so that
tells you what you need to know about that. But
he's just like that to cross the line for me. Now,
maybe he's too close to the sun, Maybe he knows
(11:03):
these guys personally, maybe he's too much of a celebrity
to feel like that's something that needs to happen. But
a couple of days later, he's still inspired by the
fact that he still feels disgusted by that that he's
going to post on social media that he hates the
way that the Pacers or or that Pat McAfee handled it.
He's trying to he's trying to distance himself from He
doesn't think the Pacer has anything to do with Pat
(11:24):
McAfee getting a live microphone and getting the fans taboo
the celebrities.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh, and they probably did, though they had to of Yeah,
I mean at least at least some part of that
organism that the stadium or whoever, the media team McAfee.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, McAfee is a high profile Pacer supporter. Of course
they're going to try to coattail ride him like that
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
This playoff rivalry has always been very salty. There's always
been a lot of gestures and words exchange between these teams. Yeah,
I don't know. I mean, obviously he's a long term fan,
so he realizes that and something struck a nerve. I'd
have to go back and listen to what Pat McAfee said.
Maybe he was pretty rough. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, you can go back and listen to it. But
I don't wanna. I don't wan don't play it, don't play.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Was he dropping? Was he dropping four letter words?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Not four letter words, but words that I don't want
to play on the radio, at least on my radio show.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
See that's a difference maker right there. If he's blasting
out words that you don't want kids here and over
a live microphone like that, then I feel like, Okay,
then old Cougar's well within his his uh yeah, his
way there.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
All right, we'll talk more about this. You got you know,
a thought on what the line is there? I'd love
to hear from you at four oh two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten or email me Emory at kfab
dot com. It's three twenty one News Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
And Marie on news Radio eleven ten kfab stick.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Because it's really a McAfee stick. I mean, he's unabashed
and that's just who he is. At that Pacers game
that mellencamp was at and he said he did a
big disservice to Hoosiers, he's getting flamed in the comments, dude,
Like like people are just like it was all in
good fun and it's not that big of a deal.
McAfee's a legend. He can do what he wants stuff
like that. A whole surprised John Mellencamp's offended by something
(13:03):
stuff like that, Right, I don't does does that does
the court of public opinion change your opinion on this
at all? Matt, Because I feel like I don't want
to be a McAfee apologist because I'm not. But at
the same time, that's him. I mean, it's unapologetically him.
And I think if you're an Indiana fan of any kind,
you're like, finally there's somebody that's like one of us
(13:25):
that wants to to tout from the rooftops that they're
a fan of Indiana stuff and they live in Indiana,
they love Indiana all these New York fans LA fans.
You know, you got the stephen A. Smith going out
on TV talking about how much they love the Knicks.
You have all these people saying they want LA to win.
You know, you got Bill Simmons and Boston and all
these different media types, and now you have one of
your own. You really want him to lean into it,
(13:47):
don't you, because that makes you feel proud to be,
you know, a Pacers fan.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Well, I see, here's my bias. I really find Pat
McAfee to be quite obnoxious.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So I hundred percent agree. I don't disagree. But if you,
if you, uh, I don't know. If somebody just emailed
me Pat McAfee and what he said here, you may
want to have like let me, I'm not gonna turn
my my mic on. But he did like an explanation
here about Uh. I can't I can't read this and
talk at the same time what he says because I
(14:20):
don't wanna. I don't know, I don't want to say.
I don't want him to say a bad word. But
maybe i'll listen to this in the break and maybe
we can play because apparently he's he's already replied to
this he's already kind of had an answer, so uh yeah,
and and so I'll potentially play this, but I generally
agree with you. I'm not into the empowerment of Pat McAfee.
(14:41):
He doesn't need us anyway, right he blocked me on Twitter?
What am I like? Like, I'm nothing to this guy?
But are we a little over overtly sensitive? Like I
think we are? Well?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And again i'd have to i'd I need to have
more context here, but generally, you know, he's entitled to
his opinion and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, I just I can't tell this off. There's no way.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Right there gives me enough context to just feel like, yeah,
you know I I I think that you can. I
think that you can voice your opinion without trying to
gate keep. But at the same time, you know, I don't.
I don't appreciate all the saltiness I you know, I
I But again, to each their own, I just I
but I'm kind of a bad source here because I've
(15:23):
always found the whole Pat McAfee stick to be tiring
and just generally obnoxious. I'm just not a fan of
his to begin with. I just think that to me,
he's just a sign of I mean, the way you
explained his rise to relevancy is a perfect example of
how it happens these days. You do kind of have
(15:43):
to be this, you know, super reactionary, really loud, not
not necessarily intelligent, but really bombastic personality that just continues
to go over the top over and over again. And
I think it's just obnoxious and the perfect example of that.
I'm a New York Knicks fan, and so this is
not me against the Pacers stephen A Smith, you know,
(16:04):
so I just think that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, but Stephen Ay has made a career without having
to say the kind of language and tone that McAfee
and his cronies have like leaned into. Yeah right, they
are saying things that no one ever thought they'd hear
on ESPN, and ESPN has them put a disclaimer up
and says, hey, we're just joshing around. Don't get a
(16:26):
thin in about the stuff that we're saying, because this
is just how dudes talk. It's just kind of a
barstool sports offshoot. Yeah, and not to say that you
can't like that, but it's I haven't met a woman
who likes Pat McAfee. Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, he's just he's a frat bro, you know, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
He's an overgrown forty year old frat bro.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, which to me is kind of cringey. I'm not
gonna lie. It's kind of like, hey, dude, you're a
little old for that stuff you were up pumped all
years ago. Yeah, he's definitely older than me. He's got Yeah,
he's in his forties, right.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
He's got to be.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean, either way, it doesn't even matter. You know.
What matters is the fact that he hits a a
demographic and the same thing with the barstool guys. It's
it's chiefly four men who wish that they could still
be twenty three and only care about sports. And that's
not bad. It's not bad because I think you and
me in a perfect world, like we could just escape
(17:15):
and just watch games all day and like not have
to care about real responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh, he's thirty eight, by the way, he's actually younger
than I thought.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Okay, so thirty eight, so but still, I mean he's
the way that he and his bros talk, they sound
like they're twenty two year olds. Yeah, and that's not bad.
I'm not saying that it's bad and he's obviously making
a lot of money on it, but it's just weird,
you know. It's just a weird thing to me, and
it speaks to the younger generation. That's why ESPN loves
having him, and he brings a lot of juice because
(17:43):
of how different he is. But he's not trying to
get you and me. He blocked me on Twitter. I
just I had a minor critique for the way that
he handles himself and he saw it somehow on Twitter
and blocked me. So that's I mean, like in whatever
I mean, Well.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Cougar Mellencamp is probably blocked now too.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Ah yeah, no doubt and no doubt even if Pat
McAfee hopefully he knows who he is, would be my
I would hope, but I don't know. I don't know
what the response will be. But they got another game.
This is that tonight game five tonight. Yes it is
in New York, so we'll see what the response is
going to be. An MSG in the Mecca it is
three thirty. We got more coming up. Thanks for listening
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on news Radio eleven ten KFA.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
B Emery Sung on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Ken Welcome to the show. Followings are open by the way,
four rold two five to five, eight to eleven ten.
If you're interested in calling in four two, five, five
eight eleven ten, Ken, welcome in. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well, I wanted to talk about the Big Ken baseball
tournament that was in town last week. Yeah, you know,
and in between pictures or whatever, they got to play music.
They got to play that rap crap that's just terrible.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Well, I mean, Ken, I mean that music subjective, right,
I mean, like I personally like the good rock and
roll stuff. Give me, like, give me some outfield, give
me some Ozzy Osbourne or something if I was walking
out there. But I think if I'm not mistaken, So
this is interesting. And I was talking to my wife
about this because we were out one of the games
over the weekend. I think the Big Ten because you know,
(19:14):
they're bigger schools and they have like big PA systems
at all their stadiums. They have walk up songs, so
like when you're coming to the plate to bat, you
can have you can pick what song it is. So
they are guys that have country songs. There are guys
that have like Latin songs. Or Spanish songs. There are
guys that have hard rock and music. There was a
guy had bon Jovi and everybody was like singing bon
(19:36):
Jovi on the Huskers when every time he'd come up,
and the pictures had the same thing. So when the
picture gets brought into the game, they have like a
list of the songs that are played, and then Charles
schwab Field, the people that are just running the tournament
will play their walk up songs. So I think the
players get to select the music when they come into
the game or they come into the plate. If that
makes a difference. Is he gone it did? Can up?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
He did?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, I had to dump him too. I don't know.
That was one of those on the line sort of things.
I'm not sure if he said what I thought he said,
but I'm not gonna you know, nah a chance.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, oh okay, Well either way, I mean, I don't
disagree with what he's saying. I maybe don't like a
lot of the music either. But that's the thing about baseball.
Those guys get to pick those songs.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, whatever gets some hyped, get some hyped, so that's
what they get. It's not for you, can it's for
them you.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Want to know something else though. It's an interesting topic. Actually,
now that we bring it up, college baseball is fun
because it's not as solved as Major league baseball, I think, yeah,
and it's really accessible. You can find, you know, solid
college baseball at almost every level, and you may not
be seeing those guys in Major League baseball one day.
But the baseball is generally pretty competitive, and there's a
lot of runs score because it's not just like a
(20:47):
ton of pitchers that can overpower the other team, you know,
not that I don't love good pitching, but it's just like,
I don't know, there's a bit of excitement when you
know a bunch of runs are potentially going to be scored,
if that makes sense. So I like college baseball however,
and again this is an opinion. This is incredibly subjective.
This is me and how I'm seeing things. But I
(21:09):
also like this goes back, honestly to the melon camp
versus McAfee thing. I'm finding like pitchers are yelling when
they get strikeouts in the fifth inning of games, and
they're like getting so amped, and it's an emotion. It's passion,
and I don't mind emotion and passion but in the
fifth inning, you strike out a guy with a runner
on second, and there's you know, it's a three run game,
(21:31):
Like it's not that big a like, is it wrong
for me to be like, come on, man, we don't
have to like yell at the other dugout and like
do a gigantic fist pump because you've got a guy
out in the fifth inning, you know. And then the
guys that are you know, getting like hitting a home
run and they do the bat flip that goes like
to the ceiling right like like if we were in
a dome, it'd be scraping the roof of the dome
(21:51):
and grow it that high. Well, maybe not that high,
but I've seen some high ones. I've seen some guys,
you know, like they'll hit the home run, they'll take
a couple of walks, you know, just like just walk
a few steps, and then they chucked the bat, you know,
into the air. They've actually had to review this because
this is a rule in baseball now in college baseball,
because they're trying to avoid teams like hating each other
and like clearing the benches and wanting to fight. So
(22:13):
if you like, if you batflip the batflip itself is legal,
but if you batflip in the direction of someone or
if you're like the opposing dugout especially, they can throw
you out of the game. Like they don't even have
to like talk to you about it. They're like, oh,
he intended to do that, like he looked at him
or he said something to him, and then he like
batflipped them. It's kind of like the unsportsman like penalty
(22:34):
when you throw the football at an opponent right like
you when you get tackled and then you just like
chuck the ball in their direction. You can get a
fifteen yard penalty for that. Well, it's like that in baseball,
except they're so worried that these increasingly demonstrative acts by
baseball players are going to, you know, result in guys
wanting to get into fights on the field. They're just
(22:54):
throwing guys out as soon as they think that there's
any sign of aggression instead of just celebration. But they
all the guys who were doing that, not that you
shouldn't be passionate, and I like the passion It just
seems like, you know, we don't have to celebrate every
single thing that you do as like you just won
the World Series. I mean, it wasn't all that long
ago that that wasn't the case. And maybe people are like, well,
that's why baseball was dying. There wasn't enough celebration. There's
(23:15):
not enough passion in the game. It just seems like
a misplaced passion. You know. You remember Jose Bautista from
the Blue Jays, mm hmm, remember his big home run.
It was like ten years ago now. He hit the
home run against the Rangers in the playoffs and they
came back and they ended up like taking the lead
in like a super chaotic inning and it was so
loud in that place, and he hit a home run
and he watched it fly and then he just kind
(23:36):
of like tossed the bat. That was an appropriate batflip moment,
totally appropriate. There's never gonna be a bigger home run
in that guy's life than the one that he just hit.
And now we have guys that are twenty years old
playing for these colleges and they're striking out a guy
in the fifth inning, acting like they just like pulled
off the miracle of the century to save the game
for their team. Am I being a lame? Oh? Because
(23:57):
I think that that's a little too much.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, I tend to agree it really is. I know
what when you see it kind of thing, you know
when it's over the top and when it's not. And
I think generally if it's done in happiness, that's one thing,
but if it's done in spite or intimidation, that's another.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, And you're just like when you're looking at the sorry,
I have my computer sound on, when you're looking at
the batter and you do that and you're telling him
to sit down or something, it's like, come on, man, well,
like like why you're gonna It's like he's gonna beat
again in three innings at least, you know, like maybe
he'll be up next inning. Who knows, like it's the
fifth inning. I don't know. And maybe I I miss
(24:34):
a time where we were picking our spots with the
big celebrations. That's all right, but that there've always been
some great athletes like Michael Jordan, Like he was a
great trash talker, but he was never like super demonstrative
with his celebrations, Like he was never taunting guys on
the court. He would, you know, talk to him. But
then you look at a Muhammad Ali which I still
think a lot of people consider one of the greatest
boxers of all time. He was taunting guys weeks before
(24:57):
the fight even happened, you know, like uh for him. So,
I don't know, maybe there's a maybe there's a line
in there and I'm maybe I'm not alpha enough. I
don't know, but I'm saying I don't get the McAfee stick.
I don't I don't get the I don't get the
deal with you know, I don't understand the whole Barstool
sports kind of culture of you know, guys who are
(25:18):
forty acting like frat bros. It just doesn't make sense
to me. But it doesn't appeal to me.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
What do you think about? Okay, so Barstool, I agree
because Barstool generally, especially the guy who runs the thing,
I don't know. I'm not a fan of that guy
at Yeah, I think that guy, Yeah, you want to
talk about like, oh, you're not an alpha like that
guy's just don't want to be. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I'm not a fan of him. He's got a lot
of money, so he's got a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
To me, like, he just seems like an entitled frat boy.
Trust fund kid who just snubs his nose at people,
and I'm just not a fan of of the way
he goes about it. But how about Caleb Presley, the
Mulla guy, Yeah, the guy from a Sunday Conversation.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I mean, he's a different breed. It's pretty funny that, yeah,
I mean, they're a funny guy. I mean, I can't
tell you I don't find some of those guys entertaining
and funny, because that'd be a lie. And I think Portnoy,
you know, like honestly, I agree. I think it's funny
when people can clown on Portnoy when the Celtics are
getting beat by the Nicks in the second round. He's
a big Celtics in Boston guy. I love it when
his teams lose because he looks like such a clown.
(26:20):
But at the same time, he's done a lot for
like small businesses, and he's been like pretty generous with
the way that he spends his money. And he hypes
up like he does the pizza challenge thing. He goes
to small towns and tries their pizza and he actually
helps with a lot of business for them. So I mean,
I can't totally hate the guy. Yeah, but if you
look at his personal life, and this is no, it's
none of my business, but he is like a forty
(26:40):
five year old frat boy. I mean he literally lives
that lifestyle. Like he doesn't have a partner, Like he's
bringing girls in all the time, you know, at all
all points, he like gets bored and he starts day trading
with his you know, millions of dollars and like playing
the stock market. And a lot of people just kind
of like the fact that he's they they live they're
living vicariously through the I mean, he's living the life
(27:01):
that a lot of dudes that are our age wish
they could live. That's just not me. So I don't know,
and we're not the target audience. We have to just
come to terms with that. That's true. And I don't
know why the twenty year old, you know, pitchers of
these baseball teams are celebrating strikeouts in the fifth inning.
I don't know why they have to, you know, demonstratively
batfoot because they did something good. It's like, oh, are
(27:22):
you not used to doing something good? That's what this
looks like to me. It's like, Wow, I actually did
something good. Look at me.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Go yay me.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I'm not buying it. I just feel like maybe this
is my maybe I'm getting old moment. Maybe I'm just
getting a little old and I'm not just seeing what
all the fuss about this stuff is. But I don't know.
I like to think I'm kind of an old soul
at heart. I like to stay kind of in touch
with what the young people like. I'm not so sure
I'm there anymore. That's probably how we all feel at
(27:50):
some point of our lives, but maybe not those guys.
Congrats to them if they don't. Three forty nine will
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Speaker 1 (28:05):
I just sound weird saying this, right, because it feels
like the definition of what masculinity or outward masculinity is,
I just don't remember, you know, outside of a few
really special athletes that like Muhammad Ali is a great example, uh,
you know, professional wrestlers, obviously her playing a part as
much as they are actual athletes. It just seems like
(28:26):
we've gotten to a spot where everybody wants to be
like like they want to have a good moment, and
then they want to do a fist pump. They want
to like pump everything up, and I'm just not that
kind of guy. You like, have you played pick up
basketball recently, Matt, Like in the last five years or so.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Not recently, but I am definitely missing some pickup basketball.
I love it and I hope to again soon.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
All right, Well, we got to get a game to
go in or some I think so too.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Last time we talked about this, we got a text
from mister Scott Boarh. He's saying any time any place.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So yeah, yeah, we should do that. We need to.
We need to do that'd be good for us.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Do we have to get one other person know to
make a two on two or in and out?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
No, we should. We should just keep inviting people. We
should get, you know, at least three on three because
then that's that's actual basketball game at that point. Okay,
But anyway, I I play, and like I'm I'm not
a demonstrative guy. I hit a lot of like like
deep shots. I'm more of a three point guy when
I play. But I don't like talking stuff when I'm
(29:24):
out there, and I don't like being super demonstrative with
any celebrations. But they're guys talking all the time, Like,
and they're talking to each other, they're talking trash, they're
they're you know, saying, oh, I could do this all day,
or you know, like they they make a move and
they get a layup and they're talking to the guy
that they just burned, or they're the guy guarding him,
you know, stops a guy and he's like, you can't
(29:45):
come through me or whatever, And I'm just like, man,
is this so toxic? It feels like as much as
guys are talking, and maybe I'm just not in on it.
Maybe I just like, I don't understand what those guys'
relationships are, but it seems like they're like one bad
interaction away from like throwing hands. Like that's how it's
like how I see it from from where I'm at
on the court, And every time I make a shot
(30:07):
or I do anything that's positive, I mean, I'm just
playing the game. I'm trying to stay completely out of
the way. And maybe that's you know why, you know,
sometimes I get picked over because I'm not demonstrative enough.
But I don't know, I don't I don't like I
just don't like that, you know, I don't like the masculinity,
or like the testosterone so high that it just feels
(30:28):
like you're ready to fight someone at a moment's notice
for no reason. But alas you know, that's just the
current situation that we find ourselves to be in. I
didn't want to talk about baseball, just you know, when
we talk about Nebraska and Creighton getting set to go
for the regionals, the Chapel Hill Regional, which Nebraska is
(30:50):
a part of, is going to be taking place. We'll
get you some hardcore information on that when we come
back on the other side of this hour. Also talk
about the latest adjustments to the Huscar football schedule and
what those look like. Got to talk about some of
the big news in the country. Elon Musk is officially
done with Doge, and plenty of other things that will
(31:12):
be happening into the four o'clock hours, So stay with
us live here on news radio eleven ten kfab
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