Suspect Arrested; When Will We Know More?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
How you don't my memory. I'm happy to have you
with us. Scott Voorhes is alongside saddled next to me
for the next four hours. Happy Friday, Scott, We've made it.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah? Why not? Man? I mean, I don't know about you,
and I've been going home every night and I had to,
especially on Wednesday. Now, I'd like find a way to
chip out of the show. I was in casing myself
in Yep and go shoot hoops with my son and
hug my wife and have a glass of wine and

(00:32):
stop myself from having eight glasses of wine. But I thought,
you know, you gotta you gotta keep keep on.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I think this is one of the most challenging weeks
I've had doing radio. I was talking to my wife
about it. You know, I don't I don't really like
talking to my wife about work that much, but sometimes
you just you have to. You're taking it home with
you in some ways. On Tuesday night, Tuesday night, I

(01:08):
told her about you know, just like first couple of
days were rough because I was living in the thought of,
in the visuals of this horrific killing in Charlotte and
the just processing how that was the thing that happened

(01:28):
in the United States of America, and I felt so
bad for the victim, and I felt bad for anyone
who just wants to feel safe taking the public transportation
systems in their town. Certainly that doesn't happen everywhere, but
if it happens once and you hear about it, it
certainly makes you think differently before you jump on a

(01:50):
train or a bus or anything like that. And then
I got in here on Wednesday afternoon, I was sitting
at home right before I went to work to do
this show, saw the breaking news. It's like, okay, great, great,
now somebody's trying to take out Charlie Kirk. I didn't

(02:13):
know how bad it was. I sat here and then
the video started to pop up on social media. Wednesday
was tough. I mean, Wednesday was a hard thing to do,
to sit here and just we were in limbo kind
of for an hour and a half. But you and
I think both knew the eventual news that he was
not going to make it was coming, and then it

(02:35):
was a matter of who did it. Do they have
a suspect in custody? We heard twice during that show
there was someone that they had in custody. They were
questioning that was a person of interest in Both of
those people were not the suspect. It took him thirty
three hours until late last night they did get the suspect.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Question.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
For you, you feel better after hearing that they had
the suspect and you learn more about who this person.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Was, Yeah, I mean better. It kind of felt like
if someone is punching you in the face and then
momentarily stop. That does feel better. It doesn't feel great.
I don't love that this person's going to have a platform.
And let me add on to what you've been saying,
because obviously, bad things happen to people all the time.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
They do.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Generally when something bad happens, and in the news it
could be any number of things. I mean, you look
at a school shooting, for example. I don't then go
on my social media and see people I know celebrating
the school shooting, right, that was that extra layer of
ah man that hurts because Charlie Kirk was killed ostensibly,

(03:54):
and certainly the celebration of his death is because of
what he thought, what he talked about. Yeah, and and
people didn't like it and thought it's just fine that
he's dead. And there are a lot of people Emory thinking,
wait a second, I think those things. Maybe not every
single thing he says, but you know, I kind of
feel that Charlie Kirk is right about a lot of things.

(04:16):
Do I deserve to be dead?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
It's not even that. It's people who think anything now
have to think that this is something that could happen.
The governor of util you heard in the today, I presume,
pretty interesting way that he explained this. This could be
a watershed moment for America because it could lead to
worse stuff people could. I mean, you heard about the

(04:41):
threat of the DNC headquarters, right, the bomb threat or whatever.
The inevitability of bad things are still going to happen
in some way is going to happen, right, But the
way we talk about it is what can change. And
the way we approach discussion, debate words. Everybody both sides.

(05:06):
Words he said, words or words violence is violence. It
doesn't sound like rocket science, but there's a lot of
people out there that think, well, political words are fighting words.
To me, it doesn't have to be like that. I
thought he was incredible today, Spencer Cox.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, he really was. And then you look at what's
happening just North of Omaha, apparently because this guy who's
now in custody in Washington County, Utah, his father was
a longtime member of law enforcement in the county. So
people are just typing in that last name of Washington
County and you get a longtime member of law enforcement

(05:47):
with the same last name Washington in Washington County. But
it's Washington County, Nebraska, just north of Omaha, in the
area of Blair. And people have apparently been sending death
threats to this guy who's with the Sheriff's department in
Washington County, Nebraska.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
And by the way, the dad did the best thing
he could have to.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I don't know where the threats are coming from. I
don't know if there are from people who are mad
that he turned in his son, or if they're mad
that you raised this guy who killed this person. I
really like, probably a combination to the two. But don't
do that.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
That's bad, no, And I mean it just tells you
how stupid people are. I hate to be that blunt,
but not even looking as to where this person's located,
they're pretty clear that this was a person from Washington County, Utah. Today,
But some of these keyboard warriors see the first thing
that they see, and they just assume that they have

(06:44):
the right person.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
You're thinking about someone who's willing to threaten someone that
they don't know and have no idea on the circumstances.
Their level of intelligence is not real strong coming out
of that gate, regardless of their Internet search ability.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
That's true. That's true, this particular individual. I am going
to continue my practice, my personal practice. I understand the
news is going to have to say names. I understand
that the news is going to have to clarify whom
they are talking about. I am not going to say
his name, and I don't care the people who have

(07:26):
the three names, the three named people. We talk about
them a lot. The historical figures who are famous mostly
because they attempted or successfully killed someone, they got famous,
they got famous, they're being talked about to this day.
There are many people historically that have become famous because

(07:49):
of their assassination, attempt or their successful assassination of major
figures of importance, whether it's politically related or otherwise. I
am not going to give this person, nor future people
who commit heinous acts of this level, including school shootings,

(08:11):
including you know by the way, did you see that
the kid who was the school shooter and shot themselves
in that Denver area shooting also happening on Wednesday, That
person died. I'm just not going to say the name
of people who decide that that's what they want to do,
because you're not going to get attention out of me.

(08:32):
You're not going to get fame out of me. I
get that the news has to do what they have
to do. But with that being said, it's twenty two
year old from Washington County, Utah. It's a guy. It's
not a transgendered guy, but it's definitely a guy that
shares a lot of progressive and very hardcore socialist level

(08:54):
liberal viewpoints despite being raised in what appears to be
a conservative of Christian backboned house, which isn't entirely unlike
the person who was found to be the shooter of
that Minneapolis Catholic school a couple of weeks ago. We

(09:17):
say the family is the backbone of America. I don't
know exactly the upbringing of these two families that I
have just mentioned, but if the upbringing was in a
Christian manner in church, was part of this person's life
growing up and seemed like the family had somewhat conservative

(09:40):
values at the very least, maybe even more than just somewhat.
At some point, can we can you even identify a
person like this? This is not a twenty two year
old person with a long history of committing crimes. So

(10:02):
what gives in that regard? Is there a way for
us to be able to know? I don't they His
family seemed to think it may be him after it happened.
Maybe they didn't think he was capable of it until
it was over with. But he did it, That's what

(10:25):
we're told. They have him multiple times at the college,
going to the college, coming back from the college, on
surveillance cameras at the college and around surrounding neighborhoods, and
he went home after it took place. We'll talk more
about who this person was, what radicalized them to a

(10:46):
point where they thought this was the best thing to
do is to kill Charlie Kirk. And as we do that,
we will try to understand how something like this could
be prevented and if this is indeed a watershed moment
in America where we get further down this rabbit hole

(11:07):
of political violence, or we as a team as a society,
as people from both sides are able to come together
and realize that we don't need to be this way.
It's on us to make that determination. To seventeen, it's
news Radio eleven to ten kfab and are you songer?
We have the suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination. This

(11:33):
was a twenty two year old, which kind of surprised me.
So let's before we get into who this was personally.
And I talked about what the shellcasings. I'm sure you've
heard by now in the news. We're engraved with different things.
This apparently is the new thing to do, is to
engrave the shellcasings that you're going to use to commit

(11:54):
murder of some kind. We heard of this with Luigi Mangioni,
who I am saying his name as it relates to
him killing the CEO of United Healthcare, Brian Thompson, and
the way that he wanted to be kind of like
some sort of healthcare robin Hood instead of stealing from
the race, decided to kill him. He wrote on the casings.

(12:20):
The school shooter in Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago,
used wrote on the shellcasings it took a video of
all the shellcasing what was written on them, and then
this shooter had written on the shellcasings. This person and
their ideology certainly would have put them in a position
where they would have hated Charlie Kirk, but instead of

(12:42):
debating him, decided they were just going to kill him.
Not a student, despite being of college age, not a
student at Utah Valley University, did briefly attend Utah State
University one semester in twenty twenty one, and he was

(13:02):
only there for at Utah State for one year. He
was from a few hours away Washington County, Utah is
down in the very south western area of Utah, kind
of that four corners spot on the like on the

(13:24):
other side of that, This campus Utah Valley is what
they said, like three and a half to four hours
north of there. But he had to have some idea
of the layout of the college of the university and
knew how to access the roof of this particular building,

(13:45):
which leads me to my biggest point of contention about
the people around Charlie Kirk and the people in aorum
Utah and the people who are designated officers at Utah
Valley University. It is an epic failure on their part,
and they are ninety five percent to blame for how

(14:09):
this was allowed to happen. Certainly one hundred percent of
the blame of the crime goes to this twenty two
year old, assuming that he is who they say he is.
That's what we're led to believe. Ninety five percent of
how it was allowed to happen is on them. The
other five percent anybody in this kid's life, this man's life.

(14:31):
He's not a kid, he's a twenty two year old man.
The other five percent of the people in his life
who heard maybe some very fired up political rhetoric, again
with no history of violent activities, no run ins with
the law, paying closer attention to politics, and at least

(14:53):
having a bit of an inclination that, yeah, he really
doesn't like this particular person. Is that enough to decide
to like report this guy to police? And if it is, then, man,
we're gonna be reporting a lot of people to police
over the next six to twelve months. At least, you
would think, if we're gonna get really sensitive to that,

(15:15):
I'm asking a lot there. But if these people knew
that he was potentially capable of it. After it happened,
then maybe there was something, just even a little something
that would have given them inclination that this could have
happened before. Again, I'm not putting that much a blame
on them, but just something in my head that says,
if you talk to yourself, any idea he could have

(15:37):
done this after it happened, then there had to been
something before that would have given you at least a
tiny red flag for you to at least say, son,
you're not actually gonna go to Utah Valley University to
see Charlie Kirk, are you, and maybe make a decision
to try to help out your twenty two year old son,
not you know, completely destroy his life in your family's life.

(15:58):
The other ninety five percent is another epic failure by
security and law enforcement. The map of the university and
the building that was used that we have on surveillance
of seeing this person run off and jump off the
side had full access, complete ease of access, and there

(16:19):
was no one who was monitoring this building from above
or even the access point to the roof two hundred
yards away a little bit less and a clean line
of site straight on. Essentially from where he was going
to be speaking, had a clear line of site. Yes,
he was under a tent, but anybody who's seen Charlie

(16:39):
Kirk do his things, they know where he's going to
be positioned where that tent is. So I kind of
blamed a little bit the concealed carry law in Utah,
if they're one of two states that you can conceal
carry on college campuses. I don't feel that way as
much anymore, knowing that it wasn't gonna matter the way
that person unless the building would have been outfitted with

(17:02):
some sort of like metal detection technology that as soon
as he would have walked in with the bolt action
rifle stuffed in his pants, it would have set off
the alarm potentially that could have prevented this in some way, potentially,
But this was a person that was going to attempt

(17:24):
to do this one way or another, somehow, some way,
and he was gonna be at Utah State University. Charlie
Cuek was supposed to be at Utah State University after
the Utah Valley event. But the idea that this polarizing
individual who has a large following millions and millions of
people are familiar Carrie is quite a bit of weight

(17:44):
in the political realm. Even if the big thing he
does is just go in debate college students and puts
the videos up on his social media platforms. He's big
enough deal to me that he's got his own security team.
That is true. They have told us that, so his
security team doesn't get a secure perimeter in local law enforcement.

(18:07):
And they talked about having, you know, like a handful
of people who were just in street clothes, not even
in uniform, that were just kind of dispersed amongst the
crowd because they expected a big crowd. There was a
big crown. They're just dispersed in the crowd just to
make sure everything was safe. Nobody thought that maybe one
of those people would be better off getting high ground
in the buildings that are nearby, especially after seeing what
happened when President Trump was in Butler County, Pennsylvania, and

(18:30):
they left a building completely unoccupied and that allowed a kid,
another twenty year old, to get up onto the roof
and get shots off at a former president, a presidential candidate,
killing a guy nearly taking out Donald Trump. Oh it
was too steep to have somebody up there. How did
the twenty year old then get up there. How did

(18:51):
the twenty year old have position to fire shots pretty
accurately at Donald Trump? You sound foolish saying that it
was too steep to have somebody positioned up there. Well,
that wasn't a problem with this building. Anybody could have
walked up there and walked around there, and this individual
obviously knew how to get up there, And not only

(19:11):
does he get the shot off, a successful shot, but
after he has that successful shot, somehow is able to
run to the back of the building, jump off of
the building, and escape without anybody noticing it was him. Now, yes,
they did catch this individual thirty three hours later, but
you can't tell me that security is in some way not.

(19:35):
I don't think they helped this person do this, but
they certainly enabled it. With another absolute horrific failure of
just doing the bare minimum of securing an area where
an important individual who has a polarizing following would be located,

(19:56):
sitting there in broad daylight. I just cannot fathom how
that occurred. We'll have more about this individual and the
situation as we've known. We've learned more today coming up
on news Radio eleven ten KFAB and Maurice on on
news radio eleven ten KFAB this morning. It was a
pretty profound morning as we sat here. I'm with Scott Vorhies.

(20:18):
You and I both do a show for different stations
at nine to eleven. You're here on KFAB and I
do one for stations in Iowa. I'm sure when we
sat down and you sat down and you were getting
ready to go here, and you saw that news conference
happening and we were going to learn about this suspect
that was detained, I mean, what was your reaction to

(20:41):
the information as it was coming out.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I thought the governor of Utah, Spencer Cox, did a
fantastic job. Really impressed also with the FBI director Cash Betel,
especially since a lot of his detractors alike he's just
a conservative mouthpiece and he just has his lips on
Trump's buttocks, and yeah he does. He's not qualified for this.
He looked pretty qualified today. And the thing I was

(21:04):
really wondering about him when he was heading to Utah
last night. I didn't know if that was a good thing. Like,
we have someone identified and now we're working to bring
him in, which, as we learn now, is exactly what
was happening last night, or I didn't know if he
was heading there because local law enforcement said we got nothing.
He's like, well, I better get over there and see

(21:25):
what I can do to help. So there was a
lot of confusion around it, all around all of this,
and those two individuals did their best not just to
inform the people but also reflect I think what a
lot of us are thinking, and that is this is madness.
This can't be just another in a string or the

(21:46):
start of a string of political violent acts. This has
got to be the end of this. And I thought
they did a really good job. I agree.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I think Spencer Cox kind of put himself on the
right a little bit for the future, not necessarily if
he wants to be a president.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I didn't get the impression that's what he was thinking
when he did it. No, I know that happens, but
I don't think he was like, this is my chance. No.
I didn't get that impression. No.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I agree, And same with Jos Shapiro. To be honest
with you, in the fall out of the Pennsylvania assassination attempt, right,
it's just like I don't think people had really heard
this person speak before, and this gave them an opportunity
to get to know the leadership of that state. Now,
whether it's Democrat like Shapiro, whether it's a Republican like
Spencer Cox, it doesn't matter. What matters is that you

(22:33):
show leadership in that kind of moment. And I think
Spencer Cox did the best job he possibly could do.
But this is a red state, you tays. Certainly there
are blue areas, and certainly college campuses is one of
those things. We're not under the impression that this twenty

(22:53):
two year old was radicalized in college. This seemed to
be a person that just kind of fucked what they
the people around them thought, and then got just very
involved into following politics in a way that a lot
of people who are young and get to vote for

(23:14):
the first time get to participate in the process. They
just get very interested in learning as much as they can. Certainly,
there is an additional screw or too loose here that
we would have to, you know, figure out specifically how
it got to a point where this person decided to

(23:34):
take a bolt action rifle, which we're still kind of
figuring out the relationship this person had with this particular
gun and also guns in general. This is not some
beginner that can hit a shot from this distance for
whatever it's worth. But you have to keep in mind
the idea that it's not just teachers, it's not just

(23:59):
college campuses, not just the television that we watch that
formulates our own opinion. There is a chance that you
find stuff that you're looking for on social media with
friend groups or groups of individuals that are like minded.
And when you talk to enough people that think the
same way you think, especially when you get to a
more radical area, just makes you feel a bit more

(24:23):
convicted in the way that you think and that it's
the right way to think. We've gotten locked in these
echo chambers a lot over the last ten years especially,
and this is why these networks exist. Your legacy media.
I hate talking about the media like this because I
am a part of the media. We sit here on
the media. Essentially, we have our own medium that we're using,

(24:46):
but we're the media. We're not the same media that
I'm talking about, though. I'm talking about legacy national media
that relies solely on the fact that you are watching.
How do they get you to watch? Well, it's what
Ron Burgundy said an anchorman too. Why not tell them
what they want to hear instead of telling them what
they need to hear. That's exactly how it works. And

(25:08):
nowadays it's a matter of trying to get you out
raised enough to where you'll just keep tuning in because
it becomes your safe space. Oh, I agree with these people.
They'll tell me what's going on. I can trust them.
And it's be afraid of this, be scared of that,
this crazy thing happened. And these people are out to
get you. And that's entertainment. And I've gone on many
a tirade about that, and it isn't news. And we

(25:30):
need to stop expecting news from these types of legacy
media entities who are literally just banking on you watching
enough so they can sell advertising during their shows. That's
not how we operate. We have legitimate newsrooms that are
trying to get things done to tell you that information.
And I'm certainly not gonna be a person that's gonna
try to conjure up a lot of fear to get
you to somehow be interested or more interested in listening

(25:52):
to me. It's like the lowest common denominator of entertainment.
It's like I'm gonna, you know, freak you out that way.
You just feel like you can only trust me. That's
not how I operate. And if that's what I'm if
anybody tells me that's how I have to operate, then
this job isn't gonna be for me anymore. Now this
particular situation, we're gonna need to this person's alive. They'll

(26:14):
get a chance to ask this guy questions. They'll get
a chance to dig deeper into who was in his life,
what his upbringing was, where maybe in his life politics
became a major interest, and when he got obsessed. You know,
this was a thing that they found out after the fact.
With the shooter in Minneapolis. This person was obsessed with

(26:37):
school shooters and mass shooters. You can't just explain that.
There has to be some other thing in there in
that person that would take them to that level of
deep end. I'm not sure this person had that. I

(26:59):
think this person and saw an opportunity to take advantage
of a soft target. Even though you can conceal carry
in Utah on college campuses, it's a soft target. How
many college students are walking around carrying guns at Utah
Valley University that number is probably minuscule. If there's a
number at all. Somehow security allowed this to happen with

(27:26):
their horrific planning and their lack of execution, keeping Charlie
Kirk and everyone there safe. We are very lucky, honestly
that more people were not injured or killed in this situation.
And then this person had no getaway plan except jump

(27:47):
off the roof. Wasn't that far of a drop. Somehow
dispose of the weapon in a way that makes it
seem like maybe you couldn't. I mean, this is not
a James Bond mastermind. This is an individual that didn't
really have an exit plant other than the fact that
I'm going to get rid of the gun and act

(28:08):
like life is normal and I'll be fine, or maybe
I want to get caught. We don't know. But he
just went home. It's like like one of the craziest
things if you want to be if you want to
get away. He had thirty three hours, he could have
been anywhere in the United States, and he was home.

(28:32):
I just I don't know what that says, but there's
something in there of this is just not a rational
thinking person, or the fame is what they're looking for.
I'll tell you what the weapon is. I'll tell you
about the dynamic of what happens next, and we will
do that when we come back on News Radio eleven

(28:53):
ten kfab. We learned an awful lot about the suspect
in the assassination of Charlie Kirk earlier this week. I've
been really hard in this hour on security as we
learn more about the failings to me of a true
plan to keep Charlie Kirk and everyone in this event
safe by just not having an individual on the high spots.

(29:14):
You know, a lesson that I think was learned the
hard way in July of twenty twenty four, when Donald
Trump had someone a twenty year old not like a
secret superagent or anything like that, just a twenty year
old person that wanted to shoot him, had access to
a roof and tried to take him out. Ended up
killing a person, wounding three others, including Donald Trump. So

(29:35):
somehow it was allowed. History was allowed to repeat itself
here and a lunatic with a long range rifle had
a shot at Charlie Kirk, and this time it was
a successful assassination on a building with a straight shot,
essentially where Charlie Kirk was sitting. Scott Voories, I didn't
ask what you think about that aspect of what we're
talking about here.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Today, you're one hundred percent right when you're talking about
one of the individuals, either with the college or his
private security team, doing what we would think is the
bare minimum here, which is fly a drone see if
anyone's on the roof, or have someone stationed up on
a high line so you can see what's going on there.
But the reality of the situation is, if someone really,

(30:20):
really really wants to take you out, it is I mean,
you've got to be right every single time. They only
have to be right one time, and it's almost impossible.
So then I'm sure they had that conversation with Charlie.
His private security had probably had that conversation with Charlie
and his family. Hey, Charlie, the best way to keep

(30:42):
you safe is to keep you locked in your house,
no one in or out, and this will be the
way you live the rest of your life. And he said,
I'm not going to do that. That's I might as
well be dead. That's not the way I want to
live my life. I want to be out there as
far as the security presence will have a presence there,
but I don't want it to be overwhelming. I don't
want these college kids to feel like, you know, they've

(31:04):
they've entered a prison or something like that, So don't
make it be overwhelming. I do these events all the time.
I know there are threats out there, but I here's
also another component of Charlie's life that if you're the
security person he tells this too, you appreciate it, but
you still do what you're saying, Emory, and that is right,
We're going to check the roof anyway. But Charlie is

(31:26):
a man of very deep conviction and faith, didn't fear death.
So it's you know, when you tell that to your
security guy, your security guys like, all right, I appreciate that,
I'm gonna go check that roof anyway. But Charlie was
not going to be the kind of person going I'm
not going out there until I know that everyone's given
me an all clear. He was doing what he wanted

(31:48):
to do the way that he wanted.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
To do, and I'm hearing you, and my counterpoint to
that would be exactly kind of what you alluded to
is that even if that was way he felt, I
think if you gave him the option of being safe
and not being safe. He would say, I'd like to
be safe. I'm sure he wasn't ready to go this week. No,
But I'm saying, though, if if I am hiring security

(32:10):
staff to be with me at all, the reason they
exist is to keep me safe. Otherwise I would travel
with no security or you know, that's the company that's
providing all that or whatever. And it's on the campus too.
And I'm not saying that it's only Charlie Kirk's people,
but even the Secret Service had a horrendous mistake YEP
a year ago when it came to this. Apparently it's

(32:32):
harder than we think it is to secure a perimeter
and the high ground that should be bare minimum. If
Charlie Kirk, if it was raining in orm Utah on Wednesday,
you want to know what I think probably would have happened.
They would have done that event somewhere indoors. They would
have gone to the small little arena that probably could

(32:54):
fit enough people at Utah Valley University. Know what, they
would have done the exact same thing side, except they
would have had it secure and there would have been
no chance for anyone to commit a murder like this
because there would have been metal detectors. There would have
been security measures that every arena at this level. I mean, heck,
have you gone and watch like a Creighton women's game

(33:15):
or a Creighton volleyball game, and you know a little
arena that they have on campus, they're so cool, Like
you walk in there, there's security and uh, middle of
detector right there. It would have been the same at
the university campus. But he likes to do these things outdoors.
He wants it to be kind of an open and
free moving environment. The very least you should be able

(33:38):
to do is make people feel safe. And you don't
get the high ground. And I've got a lot of
emails already. The drone thing is what people just are
stuck on. It's like you couldn't like of all the
drones that we're seeing that people can control very easily.
It's it's hard to say why one wasn't involved here.
I have no idea. Well of the three o'clock hour

(34:00):
coming up more on the way. Thanks for listening. It's
News Radio eleven to ten KFAB. We're talking about this
situation with Charlie Kirk assassination and this morning there was
a you know, thirty minutes or so press conference, and
questions were asked and answered about who this person was.
Twenty two year old whose name I'm not saying. You'll

(34:22):
hear it in newscasts. I'm sure for information purposes, but
I'm not glorifying this person. It was family members who
turned this individual in. Het me talk about that part
of this father, who had law enforcement background, seemingly a
conservative family, a Christian family, or you know, I think

(34:45):
Mormon is the surprisingly. From what we are gathering, neighbors
have said. I don't know if the family said this,
but they were. The family had gone to this Latter
day Saints church in Washington, Utah. For whatever it's worth,
Gray Dodge Challenger was the suspect vehicle. I found that

(35:10):
car there, which corroborated what they had saw from the
individual that they saw on surveillance in and around Utah
Valley University and then the get away. That vehicle was
at the residence of this individual's family. He was just

(35:33):
back at home. A family member referenced an incident where
the twenty two year old came to dinner and in
the conversation he had mentioned that Charlie Kirk was coming
to Utah Valley university, which isn't I mean, it's not
that close. And it was like somebody in Oglala saying

(35:55):
that you know, somebody's going to be making an appearance
at you know Carney or Lincoln or something, you know
far enough away. It was just like you'd have to
go out of your way to get there to see
this individual. According to Spencer Cox, the governor who was

(36:17):
relaying this information today, said, they talked about why they
didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had. Also,
he had a roommate. He's living with a roommate, and
this was the quote that Governor Spencer Cox mentioned here
as it relates to what the roommate may have been told.

(36:38):
Investigators interviewed the roommate, who stated that his roommate, referring
to the twenty two year old suspect, made a joke
on discord, which is a platform where individuals they might
be playing like games or something together and they'll just
be chatting while they're playing the content of these messages
included a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point,
messages related to visually watching the area where the rifle

(37:01):
was left, engraving bullets, and a message referring to having
left the rifle wrapped in a towel. Now, I want
to just put you in the shoes of like a
twenty two year old, like college senior, college aged. He
We don't think this person was in college. Only thing

(37:23):
we know about their secondary education was that they went
for one semester four years ago to Utah State University.
Now you're twenty two year old and you are roommates
with this individual, or maybe even friends with this individual,
or you are talking to this individual at least a

(37:43):
little bit pretty regularly, and they say stuff like that,
what would be your reaction, because in hindsight, it's like,
say something, tell someone this sounds serious, and this is
this seems to be what he did. They recovered a
rifle wrapped in a dark colored towel, that bolt action rifle.

(38:09):
Everything that seemed to be like a joke in the
moment was what he did. But at twenty two years old,
when this guy who you know is talking like this,
is that something that you'd be like wanting to further
investigate or you just kind of like shrug it off
and just kind of chuckle at it because it's the
person you don't know them, to be a criminal of

(38:32):
any kind. This all sounds insanely radical. You don't know
this person to be that way. I don't know. I'd
like to think i'd ask more questions about it, but
I don't know that i'd just go run to somebody
and say, he's talking about some really bad stuff with
a gun and a drop point and Charlie kirkan engraving

(38:54):
shell casings. I don't know. Personally, I don't know that
I would take it that sere if I knew this person.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
We don't know that the roommate didn't tell anybody. This
might be how we know about the conversation on that
social platform. I know I'm thinking about it with like
roommates I had in college, these individuals that I would
never First of all, I would never suspect of doing

(39:24):
anything like this. As something like this happens, I would
not suspect that they would do that. But at the
same time, I also wouldn't suspect that they would make
a dark joke like that if it weren't serious. As
soon as you hear something like this that's specific and
we're talking about engraving shell cases and all that, if
you don't already know that person. I mean, at this point,
you are, especially if you're living with the guy, you

(39:46):
know him to be the kind of person with a
sick sense of humor who would just say something like that,
he would just go there. And if that's the case,
and this is consistent with that warped behavior, it's easy
or to dismiss it as such and not call the cops.
But if this is someone who doesn't say stuff like that,

(40:08):
seems to be committed to whatever kind of cause that
he obviously was committed to, and now he's telling you
where a rifle might be and talking about engraving shell
cases and so forth, you tell someone immediately, let them
figure it out.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I mean, I think this is a lesson to people
who hear their friends maybe saying something like this that
you just can't take things like a joke. You can't
act like this is something flippant that was being said.
You really do have to take things seriously, even if
you do kind of seem like a narc on your friends.
I mean, that's the other thing, right, It is just

(40:51):
like the social structure. If somebody shows up to this
particular person's residence or he was apparently a third year
student in an electrical apprentice program at Dixie Technical College,
so that's what he had transitioned to doing versus traditional college.
So that's what we're under the impression. But they show
up at the college or something and kind of confront him,

(41:11):
question him. Then he comes back and says, Okay, who talked,
And then you know how it goes. You could pretty
easily deduce who may have, you know, what you would
consider snitched on you, and you could have just said
I wasn't even serious about that. Right As a kid
on the other end of that conversation, you're thinking about that, well,
what if he doesn't mean any of this stuff? What

(41:32):
if I tell somebody and it ruins my friendship with
this person because maybe it was maybe it was just
a joke. There are social structures involved there beyond just
you know. And this isn't to say that you shouldn't
say anything, but.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I hear the mental gymnastics you're going through. You would
know in this case. You would know, unless it's like
if you're playing a video game and you don't even
know who you're playing with and they start saying crazy stuff, right,
you tell someone we're talking. Yeah, let someone else figure
it out. I don't know this guy. You know user
handle this and that at eighty seven said this, go

(42:10):
find and figure it out. If it's your roommate, you've
got to have a few minutes there where you're thinking,
do I live with a murderer? And you'd probably know
you at least have a pretty good idea. If you
can immediately dismiss it with one hundred percent of everything
you know about the person and dismiss it like now,

(42:33):
not not him, then that's got to be a pretty
scary situation. I've had some bad roommates. I had a
bad roommate. He wouldn't have killed anybody. There was one
morning I thought about killing him. But you know, you
would know if the guy was to the point where

(42:55):
something like this was capable.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Well, uh, no doubt. I think this more than anything.
This is one of those situations where the more we learn,
maybe we could get to something like this. I was
telling you off the air this though. Two weeks ago.
I sat in this chair and was talking about the
Minneapolis school shooter. And then we needed to hear from

(43:21):
the parents. We needed to hear from anyone who worked
with that individual, who may have lived with that individual,
so we could figure out what they would have seen
or known about that individual who seemed way more radical
than this guy did, based on the transgender ideology, the
amount of weapons that they had purchased, the amount of

(43:44):
bullets they fired, the writings on them. I mean, a
truly unhinged person twenty three years old. I know at
twenty three I wasn't talking to my parents all that often,
but they certainly would have known if something weird was up.
Nobody knew that this person was going completely off the
deep end. And here we are two weeks later, and

(44:06):
we've already forgotten about it as a society. We've already
we've already just like.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Well, that process work itself out, but.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
We haven't heard a peep, and and what about this?
But it's not the process. We're not gonna hear.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
It's not going to hear a whole heck of a
lot about this guy here after this weekend. It's the
process will be processing.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
And I don't disagree with that. He's going to get
a trial. It's going to be major national news about
what they find in the trial. He's going to likely
be charged with the possible penalty of the death penalty,
they're going to fight in different ways. I think through

(44:47):
his defense of trying to explain what maybe can explain
the behavior and why maybe life imprisonment is the better version.
That will be a process where we're going to get
to no thing. When a person kills themselves, we have
no answers except for the people that are around them,
and it's on us. And I said this a couple

(45:08):
of weeks ago. We have to stay diligent in learning
about as much information about these people as we can
so we can try to figure out what those red
flags are for the next person. But we never get
the answers. And yeah, you're right, there is a process,
but nobody's gonna get charged, nobody's gonna get tried. There's
not gonna be a trial. We're gonna have to dig
in deeper and people are gonna have to interview parents, interviews, classmates, friends,

(45:33):
the only friend that we heard from in that particular case,
with somebody who knew when they were sixteen, obviously things
have changed until they were seventeen that they started to
call themselves a different name. All I'm saying is we
cannot just forget. We have to learn more about who
these people are, and then maybe we can start developing
a pattern in what red flags are legit, because, like

(45:53):
you said, if it's a random person on Discord that
you're just playing video games with, you're not gonna say anything.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
But who are you yelling at right now? I mean
all the people? But so I look at the people
in my life. I don't know anyone who's capable of this.
You know, the people who do are either also maniacs,
and they're not going to say anything. They're the worst
parents you could ever meet. They're not going to say
anything because they don't know and they don't care. Or
and here's what Charlie Kirk talked about, this justice system

(46:21):
that keeps letting people out no matter how long their
criminal record is. He was talking about the guy and
Charlotte going fourteen arrests, many of them felonious, are having
to do with violence and threats, and he's still out there. Yeah,
this is wrong, And now see there's something you can
talk about. But as far as like the people, you're saying, well,
if you're close to this person, how do you not know?

(46:41):
They probably do know, and they you hear from a
lot of them and afterwards they're like, Oh, I didn't
think he'd actually do it, and that's such a weak,
pathetic thing to say.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
And I one hundred percent agree. And even though I
would maybe have a tough time if I was really
good friends with that person, knowing if they're serious or not,
and then deciding I'm going to turn them in, I'd
like to think that I would if I felt like
it was a legitimate thing that could potentially happen this person.
We're going to get to learn more about that when

(47:12):
we get to a trial in questioning. For the people
that are killing themselves or are killed by police in
those situations, we're not learning about them, and we don't
pay close enough attention to figure that out because we
had it's been two and a half weeks. Has anybody
still talked, at least in public in some way to
the parents of that trans individual who shot up that

(47:33):
Catholic school. We haven't heard it in the news. If
they have, there had to have been more red flags
that maybe we could learn about so we can prevent
the next one. That's what I'm saying. It's on all
of us to be curious about that so we can
prevent the next one. Three twenty News Radio eleven ten
kfab and raise longer. Jason emailed in and said, Utah
Valley University has a drone degree program, and if you

(47:58):
really wanted to be thorough, you could have in theory
utilized their program to help with drone surveillance. Now, I
say that's a great idea under supervision, if you were
to do something like that, it'd be a great opportunity.
I ran a half marathon. It was during a marathon.
There were people running the marathon and one of the
local colleges that is like a medical school in Des

(48:20):
Moines where I ran this race, The Moyne University is
what they were called. They had a free area that
you could come and if you were feeling like any
pain after your race or something, you could come and
they could massage it a little bit. But they also
used it as practice for trying to figure out exactly
what was bothering you, whether it was like a joined
attend in muscles anything like that, and the proper terminology.

(48:43):
And they had supervisors that were kind of just like
walking around. It was actually kind of cool and you
didn't have to pay for it, and it was great
practice for the students. That you could absolutely use big
events like this, which I would imagine rarely happen on
Utah Valley University's campus, as a way to you know, like, hey,
we can be a part of this as kind of
a branch of what security is doing. I think that's

(49:05):
a great idea. Obviously somebody would need to be in
charge of that, that's a legitimate security person, but that's
doable to me. You could have worked with local law
enforcement and done that, but they didn't. Scott different Scott,
not you. Scott different Scott said, you know, you were
talking about Charlie Kirk and you know his viewpoint on

(49:26):
life and very outgoing and wasn't afraid of death kind
of thing, although he had security wanting to make him safe.
He said, I believe this is a failure for security.
But the regime change is why I think people are
afraid to have this argument. It's under Trump this time
because when the attempt was made on Trump's life, it

(49:47):
was Biden in the Lighthouse Biden security secret Service situation,
and a lot of people on the political right blamed
the failure on Joe Biden's regime and his secret service. Well,
I think people they didn't blame Biden as much. They
blamed the people in charge of the Secret Service and
they lost their jobs. But I also you got to
remember that is a secret service issue. He's a former

(50:10):
president and also a president's candidate. He had secret service
with him that is directly governmental related. No one on
Charlie Kirk's detail was from the government. This is a
private security detail. And then Utah Valley University police. That's it.
So it's not the same. It's just not the same.

(50:33):
Blaming Trump for a security failure at Utah Valley University
would be like blaming what's a good example, blaming John
Cook for you know, Westside High School's volleyball team all
of a sudden becoming terrible. Right, It's just like, what

(50:53):
does he have to do with any of it. He's
only sort of adjacent to what they do, but he
does no control over it. Right, same concept here then,
and Mitch say, one thing you and Scott haven't considered
is maybe the roommate isn't normal either, normal meeting traditional values.
Maybe he didn't think that these messages on discord were

(51:13):
all that crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
That's what I just said. You know, you see a
red flag, you don't call attention to it because you
are also on some sort of level of maniac.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Yeah, it just doesn't like maybe it's just kind of
like it's not that crazy to me, or well, we
talk like this, but maybe he's not actually going to
do it, or.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Or your roommate is crazy, and you're like, he already
signed the least and nothing I can do, and I
don't have much interaction with him. Every once in a
while he walks in and says something kind of nutty
and you're like yeah, and you just kind of go
back to whatever you're doing and trying to ignore it
and keep your head down.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah. And then got this message from my friend Chris
from pub culture Bariacations dedicated listener love hearing his thoughts
on what we're talking about, and he said, what if
this guy just pleads guilty, like the Idaho killer, we
know nothing more about why he did what he did,
and he also didn't kill himself. I don't know the answer,

(52:07):
but not sure if we would ever have the answers
we want or hoping for. And that's a good point
if they aren't trying to actively defend him, if they are, like,
the evidence is way too against you and there isn't
going to be enough for like an insanity or that
somebody failed you or anything like that. Well, to be

(52:27):
quite honest, it could be like that. They could just
show up, say he's pleading guilty and he wants life
in prison. If they want to try him and try
to sentence him to the death penalty. I don't know
if that changes what the trial looks like and the witnesses,

(52:48):
because they'll have a sentencing hearing, and with Utah having
the death penalty, that could make things a little bit
more complicated in just pleading guilty and getting out of
there without having to create answers. But I think because
of the elevation, no disrespect to the victims and that
Ohio killing, because that's horrible too, I mean, those four
lives that were lost. This being a high profile individual,

(53:11):
this will be national news, well beyond the coverage, and
it was still national news when that the Idaho killer
was being tried. It's going to be there's going to
be a big spotlight here and they are going to
do whatever they can to get answers, even if it
isn't as traditional as maybe like a regular trial in

(53:33):
theory would be. With that being said, what's the next
step for this, Well, it sounds Tuesday is going to
be when the official charges are going to be out.
He's going to be held until then, and from there
we will find out what the reaction is. But we've
had some pretty good conversation I think for people on
the political left also to this point, now that we

(53:56):
know who this is, a lot of people are pulling, Oh,
he's from ebxservative family. Oh, you know, he was raised
the Christian Oh you know, he's somebody from Utah in
now you know, they're trying to say, you have this
all wrong. It's not some transgender person with some left
leaning ideologies. Even though this person does have socialist ideology,
he's raised in a conservative household that is muddy the
water enough to where people in political left are saying, oh,

(54:18):
it's one of your own that did all this. Try
to ignore that the people who are the adults in
the room are mostly the politicians, at least at this point,
because they actually have either condemned this or made statements
talking about how we need to protect our freedoms, including
the First Amendment. And Charlie Kirk did not deserve what
happened to him. Hopefully that's the trend that continues. More

(54:41):
coming up on news radio eleven ten KFAB The Truth
and Everything Important in Omaha and Beyond. Emri Sunger on
news Radio eleven ten Kfab saw this out of Iowa.
This is an Iowa situation. This is not western Iowa.
This is eastern Iowa. Johnson County. Pop quiz. What city
is in Johnson County, Iowa? The city of Johnson, Iowa.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
No.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
It's a weird thing about Iowa is that there is
absolutely no rhyme or reason to the naming. I grew
up in Wappolo County, but the city of Wappolo is
an hour and a half away from me.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
All my friends from the city of Pottawatamee disagree. Graduates
of Pottawatamee High School in Pottawatamee County. No, Mills, it's
weird what I don't know anyway, you were.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Saying Anyway, Johnson County.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I finally got you to laugh. For an hour and
a half into the show, I finally got a chuckle out.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Yeah, we need to laugh more. Iowa City, it's where
Iowa City is Johnson County. It's next to Lynn County.
Which is another little blueish area in Iowa. Cedar Rapids
is Lynn County, Iowa City just down south of Cedar
Rapids by one county in Johnson County. Well, what do
they call the people in charge of the counties in

(55:59):
Nebraska stupid for not knowing this.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
People, Well, there's the county boards.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
That's it. County commissioners on the county board kind of commissioners. Well,
there's a board of supervisors Iowa. It's the board of supervisors.
Every county on ninety nine counties have a board of supervisors,
and depending on the size of the county, they have
different people in charge. And I saw this today from
a person named John Green, who is the chairman of

(56:26):
the Johnson County Board of Supervisors. He said on his
Facebook on my personal authority as the chairman of the
Johnson County Board of Supervisors, I have determined to defy
the governor's orders that our colors be at half staff
through Sunday on behalf of Charlie J. Kirk. I condemn
Kirk's killing, regardless of who pulled the trigger or why,

(56:47):
but I will not grant Johnson County honors to a
man who made it his life's mission to denigrate so
many of the constituents I have sworn an oath to
protect and who did so much harm, so much too harm,
not only the marginal, but also to degrade the fabric
of our public politic or our body politic. Johnson County
flags will fly as usual. I will accept any consequence,

(57:10):
whether legal or electoral, for my decision. It is mine alone.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Now.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
The reason I know about this is not because I
follow John Uren on facebooks, because Governor Kim Reynolds as
a screenshot I didn't put it on her social media
accounts and says it's disgraceful, disgraceful that a locally elected
officialist shows him to put politics above human decency during
a time like this.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Well, thanks for letting us know. John.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I would be very curious what exactly Charlie Kirk said
that led him to say the what give me that
line again about what he has done to denigrate his
his people there in Johnson Gown. I will not grant
Johnson County honors to a man who made it his
life's mission to detigrate so many of the constituents I

(57:57):
have sworn an oaths to protect, and who did so
much to harm not only the marginalized, but also to
degrade the fabric of our body.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Politics, it's so much to harm the marginalized. What exactly
it's all that's LGBTQ plus stuff right there. I mean,
but what did he what did he do to harm?

Speaker 1 (58:17):
He talked, He spoke and said that he didn't agree
with that lifestyle. Apparently is enough for a guy like
John Green. Look, this is this is the thing with politics.
John Green is making a statement because he wants it
to be about him.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I know this isn't a Nebraska thing or a western
Iowa thing, but this is just how many people in
Cedar rap not Cedar Rapid's stupid, Emory, stupid, it's dummy
Iowa City. How many people in Iowa City are flying
their their flags at full staff now because John Green
said this? I mean, if I had a flag outside

(58:53):
my business and the Johnson County Board a supervisor said Nope,
not in our county, you won't put that thing back
up there. It's like, I don't even know if I
would notice no disrespect to anyone who wants to run
for their county board of Supervisors in Iowa or be
account of commissioner in Nebraska. But anybody following these people

(59:15):
on social media and listening to their words with baited
breath seems kind of crazy to me. I'm sure John
Green is not the only person in America who felt
they had some authority to say, Nope, nope, we're not
doing this. Charlie Kirk's not worth put in the flags
at half mass. And you could make that, you could

(59:37):
make the argument for me as to why, Like what
makes Charlie Kirk the person for half mass? I mean,
we've put the flag at half mass for a lot
of different reasons, for a lot of different people and stuff.
There are only a few people that even have the
authority to do that, the President of the United States
being the first one, and then the governors of each

(59:58):
subsequent state. What's the rule there is it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Does it does it go local and out? So like
if the mayor said for flying or flags at half
staff in this city, or we're flying him at full
staff no matter what in this city, do you listen
to them before you listen to the county commissioners, before
you listen to the governor, before you listen to the president,
Like how does that even work? Like what would give
him the idea that he would just all of a

(01:00:23):
sudden be able to poll rank on the governor of
Iowa and the President of the United States and say,
fly your flags up to the top of your polls.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I don't know. I know that he had the ability
to issue a statement and did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah, but okay, you can't really even enforce anything on that,
can you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Right. Well, and so here's the other thing that kind
of goes along with what you're asking. The governor says
we should all flags should be flown at half staff. Yes,
The guy in charge of the Board of Supervisors says,
not here in Johnson County, Iowa. But you're the guy
in charge of the flag pole outside of the courthouse
at whatever town.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
What happens if he comes out and says, well, yeah,
you're talking about how Charlie Kirk said things that denigrated
certain people in your constituent. I happen to think Charlie
Kirk was right about a lot of things, and I
hate the fact that he's not around to say them.
I will be lowering the flag at half staff. So
then what does the Board of Supervisor's guy go out

(01:01:19):
there and find him?

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Well, the Board of Supervisors really only has jurisdiction and
control over places that are unincorporated in their counties anyway,
the way that I understand them, at least in Iowa.
So so he wouldn't even have like he's saying this
is if he like is king of the castle, the
little Johnson County castle. But that's not what my understanding
is his job to do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
So well, he had a chance to make a statement.
He did what everyone's going to do, whatever they do
with their flags. We're talking about for the next couple
of days. Yeah, this isn't about flags. It's about he
wanted to make a statement, and he did. I would
be say thanks for letting us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Know, but it does ask it beg the question though,
who's authority? And then what is the right because now
all of a sudden, Johnson County, maybe you have some
people flying him at full staff, maybe you have some
people flying him at half staff, or half of those
people wrong or can you do anything about it? Because
if you're flying a flag at half at full staff

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when it's been you've been told that in your jurisdiction
or whatever your place of living, and it's supposed to
be half staff, there is some sort of protocol to that.
I don't know. Let me do some recon on this,
not just about Iowa, but in Nebraska also, because I
think that is kind of an interesting question that I
don't think this is about flags though I understand, but

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I want I want to know because why else, when
what other situation would a local county level official pull
rank on the governor of the state that they're living
in like that. Just that seems so backwards to me.
I just want to I just want to clarify for
myself and maybe for the listeners that that's not even

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a thing you can do. And maybe he's just ignorant
to that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
And by the way, just like you know, laterally making
a decision and nobody else can like even say anything
about it seems pretty weak from an elected official, and
you know, big man, chairman of the Johnson County Board
of Supervisors. Way to Go three forty seven, News Radio
eleven ten KFAB. I have answers for you on who
gets to decide flag rule now that there is some

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sort of it's not really a debate. It's one crazy guy.
Crazy guys, it's an elected official. Who's the chairman of
the Johnson County Board of Supervisors, which is Iowa City,
Iowa City, Iowa. And he said he condemns Charlie Kirk's killing,
but he says Johnson County flag should be at full
staff and Johnson County flags will fly as usual. And
this guy says, I'll accept any consequence, whether legal or electoral,

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for my decision. It's mine alone. Congratulations, John You're getting
talked about on the radio today and the only reason
anybody knows because KEM. Reynolds, Governor of Iowa. Screenshot of
this and Sheridan said, look at this guy. Uh yeah,
this is what she said. No, she said, it's disgraceful
that a locally electioned official has chosen to put politics
above human decency during a time like this. But she

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might as well say get a load of this guy.
Just that sounds more like Governor Reynolds. Then yeah, check
this guy out, Like, who do you think you are?
Pal So again, this is just you know, big big
man posturing by a guy who thinks he's a big
deal when he's really just the chairman of the county
Board of Supervisors. And again, if you're a Board of

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Supervisor member, or a county commissioner in Nebraska. Please don't
take this the wrong way, but you are not the
governor of the state and you do not carry any
such authority over the state. So I looked at this
and I have I have an answer to you. Who
really gets to decide where the flags are? At the

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federal level, of course, president of the United States can
order flags on federal property half staff nationwide. At the
state level, the governor then says they have the authority
to direct us and state flags on state government buildings
of their state to half staff, and then mayor's, county
boards and other local officials can also issue proclamations for
municipal or county owned buildings, but they cannot override the

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governor or the president. So if the governor and president
says it is half staff, everybody's half staff. If it's
full staff. At other places, a local municipality can make
the determination they want to be at half staff for
some reason locally, you know. So sometimes you'll see Iowa
go to like half staff, or Nebraska could go to
half staff because of the loss of somebody very important

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in their state. May not be a national thing, but
it could be like a local thing, and that it
would be okay, But you cannot supersede a half staff
rule from the president or even a governor. So with
that being said, local officials can't overrule that, but they
can choose to do additional observances on county property. If

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the governor orders half staff, that applies across all of
the government buildings in the state, no matter what. In
this example, specifically, the Johns County Board only has say
on county owned buildings. So if, for whatever it's worth,
you know, the county courthouse would be technically a county building.
If they choose to ignore the governor, they would try

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to apply their rule just to county owned buildings. But legally,
by the letter of the law, the governor's order carries
more weight, and almost everyone, specifically schools, counties, and cities
are going to follow it out of law and respect.
I was doing some research here and they say an
attempt to contradict this rule would certainly be seen as

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out of line and would cause confusion, but they do
not have the authority to nullify the governor's order. So
this just goes to tell you not only is John
Green trying to be a big man from his you
know spot as the chairman of the Johns County Board
of Supervisor to score political points with you know, democrats in
a pretty democratic area of Iowa, the Iowa City area.

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But he is a full because or he's just ignorant,
because everything he just said is completely null and void,
because the governor's rule is going to supersede what he
would say when she says flags in the state are
at half staff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
May I repeat myself from a few minutes ago. Sure
it's not about the flag. Look at it this way.
If Governor Pritzker had said, we're not following the president's
dictate that the flag be lowered to have staff, we're
not going to do that in the state of Illinois,
and then the mayor of Champaign or whatever says here

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in our area, in our town, our county, or whatever
we will, you and other people will be saying, God
blessed that leader of the Board of Supervisors by doing
the right thing here. So it's about who gets a
chance to posture for their people and get their kudos
or detractors. This guy is going to be cheered by

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a lot of the students there at the University of Iowa,
and and a lot of those who are who feel
like this, this Board of Supervisor's president who apparently think
that that Charlie Kirk spent his life just wishing gay
people dead. As far as what I can tell, he
wasn't a big fan of men competing against women or
kids going through transgender surgery. So if the president of

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the Board of Supervisors has any strong feelings about these
particular things, I would encourage him to share them, because
I don't know specifically what Charlie Kirk said that got
him so upset.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Well, I think it's mostly just the brand, right, this
is an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Definitely the brand all it's all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
About, you know, Like I'm sure you could go through
and find Charlie Kirk quotes in or out of context
that people who are of LGBTQ, especially that tea part
and Charlie Kirk was outspoken and said that he did
not agree with the lifestyle of gay marriage, even though
he would debate. He would talk to people who did

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say that they were gay or lesbian, but he talked
to them. Yeah, he wasn't making legislation to ban them
from living. But again, because of his stature as a
conservative talker and an influencer, and how respected he was

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for the platform he built himself, just the brand Charlie Kirk. Oh, well,
he was a hardcore Republican and I won't dare put
my flag at half staff for a Republican. Good job, pal,
You're an idiot. This has been just a week. It
feels like I have aged months, maybe years. But you
know what, that's life. That's where we live, that's what

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we do. We talk to you about the things that
are happening. I haven't laughed a lot this week. You
made mention of that when I did get a chuckle
about twenty minutes ago. How do we laugh in times
like these?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
You ever laugh at a funeral? No, not laugh at
a funeral, but you're at a funeral and someone tells
a humorous story or says something poignantly funny, and look,
laughing is a great emotion. Crying it has its place,
But laughing through tears. I don't know if there's anything
better or more cathartic. I've been doing some of that

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this week.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Help me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
I don't know right now how we go about doing
that right at the second. It's like going to a
comedian like oh you're comedian. Make me laugh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yeah, all right, you got one of them. Terrence and
Philip from South Park fart jokes or something.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Those are great, but no, so make you laugh through tears.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
I can, no, I don't. I can kick you in
the groin and then tickle you. Oh no, no, no, I'll
pass on that. That sounds rough. I you know. That's
the thing I also thought I was going to learn
about myself during this time, is you know, just how
do you smile in times where it feels like you
just want to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Be sad or as you have on it because you
have to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Do you have to though, because that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
It's like, there was a really trite thing that people
were saying twenty four years ago and it actually became
kind of a joke thing to say, became a punchline,
and that was, well, if we don't do this, then
the terrorists win. Now. Starting off twenty four years ago
on nine to twelve, two thousand and one, that was
a robust, rallying cry, and people knew what it meant.

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After a while, it kind of became a joke. Yeah,
if I don't if I don't go to KFC today,
then the terrorists win.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Yeah you know what, I hear you. Yeah, so I
hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
But going back to before it was a trite cliche,
it is it's an important thing to realize, like you're
here and if you decide, And this is kind of
what that cry has been around Charlie Kirk, and that is,
if people stay silent, then this guy in Utah and

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all of those who consider him a hero, and let's
not lose sight of that. You know, people are wondering
why he did this, probably because he wanted to be
a hero to some people in this country. He just
took out Hitler, and so why wouldn't he feel good
about himself? Why wouldn't he be a hero? Charlie Kirk Trump,

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these guys are Hitler. I took out Hitler, and so
yeah he feels great, thankfully. Not everyone feels that way, thankfully.
But if you stay quiet and you don't call that
out and talk about how deluded and insane that is,
then the terrorists win.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Nice, you've done this before, Well done.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Did I say something?

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
You did a good job.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Sometimes if I keep talking, I might accidentally say something.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Yeah, it's a good point, you know, trying to find
a little bit of relief from the heavy weight that
you feel like you are bearing when it isn't really
ours personally to bear.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Right, people say like, how can you be excited about
a football game tomorrow at a time like this, because
I have to be, because the alternative is I just
I just lie down and I don't get back up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Yeah, it's interesting. I just got an email from Rob
and he says he talked to you about this morning
via email. Says it's terrible the Kirk family lost to
father and husband. But had this been an outspoken liberal
like Al Sharpton or David Hogg, there's no way you
would still be talking about it Wall to Wall. I
guess we kind of have talked about it at Wall

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to Wall over the last three days. It was wrong
that he was shot. It's terrible for his friends and family,
but he spoke controversially in today's society, that's the risk
you take if a firefighter gets killed in the line
of duty. It's terrible, but it's a risk of the
profession he's in. Same with mister Kirk. I disagree with that.
I disagree with that a lot. I disagree with pretty
much everything that Rob said there. If David Hog got killed,

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And for those who don't know who David Hogg is,
he was a survivor.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Of Marjorie Stoneleigh Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
There's so many of those these days, I forget. But
he has become a very outspoken Democratic activist, and of
course gun control is his big platform. But he is
twenty five right now, was a member, one of the
chairs of the DNC until recently when he started calling

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out other Democrats and they basically said, hey, buddy, get
lost kind of thing, and he's just gonna worry about
helping candidates get elected through his super pack. But he's
a polarizing individual as well for the way that he
talks about people on the other side. Now, for whatever
it's worth, if David Hog were to get assassinated, first

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of all, a shot, that would be major, major national.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
News, and it would be god awful.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
It would be the worst kind of situation ever, considering
what he's been outspoken against. Right the words of Charlie
Kirk have been unfortunately taken out of context and used
against him about how he views guns, guns rights, guns
control the Second Amendment, and a lot of people who
hated Charlie Kirk have used that out of context against him.

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For David Hog to survive a school shooting, use that
platform he got to try to do what he thinks
is the right thing, even if we disagree on most
of what he thinks about the world in politics. If
he were to get assassinated, we'd be Waldwall unequivocally and
we would be talking about this. Maybe the rhetoric would

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be a bit different because we disagree a lot more
with what he said than the stuff that Charlie Kirk
was usually saying, But that doesn't make it less of
a story.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
No. I would be disgusted because I know that some
of the same people are out there right now making
it their social media mission is to find the people
who are happy and cheering on the death of Charlie Kirk,
and then finding out where they work and going to
their bosses and going is this what you support? You
hired this person. A lot of those same people would

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probably be saying similar things if it was one of
these liberal pundits or whomever that they disagreed with who died.
There'd be some people, not all of them, there'd be
some people who would be celebrating that, or at least
making sure everyone knew their indifference to it, and that
would make me sick too. All of it would make
me sick. And so it's up to our humanity to

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be consistent in things like that, or at least if
you don't have anything good to say, then shut your
flip and mouth. Is that what mom used to say?

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Yeah, you don't have something nice to say, don't say
anything at all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Yeah, maybe that's what your mom said. My mom had
a mouth on her though.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Maybe Yeah. So, for whatever it's worth, David Hogg is
a kind of the balance, No, is he not?

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
If David Hogg had an event anywhere in the country,
you're not going to get the thousands of Yeah, he's
not debating.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
People, Yeah he's he's he's doing rallies for people who
already like him. So it's not really the same thing.
But I'll tell you what else David Hog wouldn't do.
And this is also what made Charlie Kirk great. I'm
saying this to celebrate Charlie Kirk and not done a
great David Hogg. There's no way David Hogg would go
into an area full of conservatives and invite them to
have an open mic and talk to him. There is

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zero chance hear any of those guys that do it.
This is what him for him, May I feel like
he might have a better reason than maybe some other
people not to do that for whatever it's worth.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Well, okay, then then pick pick your person. They're not
gonna do AOC would not go do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
And there are a lot of Republicans. You'll notice they
don't do a lot of town hall because they get
run out of the room. This is what Charlie Kirk did.
He's like, hey, we're having a town hall. If you
disagree with me, grab a microphone and let's talk. And
you said something in the first hour of this program today, Emory,
that I thought was especially tragically poignant, and that is
you know, this guy who killed Charlie Kirk wanted his

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moment of fame. You know how else he could have
got it by having a good reasoned conversational and a debate.
Point to step up to the microphone in orm Utah
the other day and shut Charlie Kirk down with reason
and a debate and make Charlie Kirk look foolish. Good
luck with that. But if he was able to do that,

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he would have had a ton of social media clout
and he would have been raised up as a potential
member of Congress someday or something if he had just
done that. Of course, there's no chance he could do it.
That's why he took this cowardly approached.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
I was going to say, Yeah, people who can't do
that decide violence is the right answer. Think about that.
When you think about violence being the answer, when you're
unable to properly articulate your own words, that's when people
generally are turning to violence, which is why you hear
somebody like Gavin Newsom, who had long conversations with Charlie Kirk,

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have a much different tone in the way that he
talks about Charlie Kirk than people who did not know
or did not meet Charlie Kirk because he wasn't a
human to them, because they didn't have a human connection
with him. Even the people who there are a couple,
what's the one Dean Withers I think is one of
the people who debated him on his show, And Dean

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Withers became kind of people followed him on social media
because of his ability to debate, and a lot of
people thought he won his little debate with Charlie Kirk,
and Dean Withers went on his social media crying about this.
He looked him in the eye and had a hardcore
debate with him about ideals and of you know, what

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the world should be. They disagreed about as far apart
as anyone possibly could, and when Charlie Kirk was shot
and assassinated on Wednesday, it brought that guid to tears.
We have stopped humanizing the people who are running our

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country or the people who are talking about policies or
political ideals in this country. That in and of itself
tells me the least we could do is try to
talk to each other more. And when you humanize people,
we can have those debates and we won't have to
fear that lunatics will take to violence to try to

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silence your opinion. Again, I have to reiterate, I don't
want us to lose sight of the fact that, yes,
this is a side effect of a much larger problem
of discourse in this country. But we're talking about one
specific individual who decided to take this shot. One radical
individual should not be representative of an entire political ideology

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or a country for that matter. But we can use
this specific incident as a way to understand what it
would take for us to come together to prevent lunatics
like this from deciding to take a shot like this
against anyone, whether there's a politician or a person who
talks for a living. We could be better tomorrow. It's

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four nineteen. Thanks for listening to news radio eleven ten
kfab em Rais songer. Time to time to take our
shirts off?

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Scott Voorhees, Wow, let me get my headphones off.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
You're you're looking You're looking nice, trim and in shape
for a for a bully man your age.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
How long do I have to keep my gut sucked in?

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
That's a good one. I've noticed myself, and maybe you
could help me with this. Yeah, I don't like Well,
it's just because you know, it's just like take a load.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Off, right, Just like is that how you take a
load off? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
SURET sure. I mean usually at home it'll be my pants,
but I feel like that might be inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
When I want to relax, I put more clothes on.
It makes me feel better. Yeah, makes everyone around me
feel better too.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
I bet it. I bet it does, but it does.
I was, I was wondering about just the one thing
I haven't done yet is a proper like october Fest
celebration in and around Omaha.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
I refuse to go to them until they move them
to October. Oh no, not, you can't do this. What
is it called September Fest? Did I miss something?

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
No? But october Fest takes place in September in Germany,
so I disagree with that. But but you have to
take that up with the Germans doing it in September.
But doing this in September here is authentically German. I mean,
did did Germans do it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
No? I don't drink a single beer month of September,
just in protest. I wait till October.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
It's single. You won't drink a single beer in protest
that october Fest is in September.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Yeah. Words matter, words have meaning.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Octoberfest Is it October?

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Like you are associated Octoberfest in October is the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
I know, I'm the crazy one, But.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
October Fest and October are not the same. Like we've
made that determination that they should be the same, but
they're really not the same. It's like Octoberfest definition is,
you know, not what October's definition is. I mean, you
could realistically have something that's called, you know, like march
Fest in February.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
No, and I will only listen to the song wake
Me Up when September ends on the last day or
short any really, anytime, I guess in the month of
September by Green Day. It's a great song, but it's
only a great song in one month out of the year,
and when the December has come to town, it better
be during the month of December.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
You're a very literal person. I can respect it. A
man of values and integrity all I have. It depends
on what you care about, I guess, but at least
you stand for something. It's an important development for us.
That being said, it sounds like there are some October
FESTI things this weekend and next week, and I think

(01:24:22):
it might bounce around to you know. The biggest thing
for me is there are also a lot of weddings
happening right now. Have you noticed that? Have you ever
been to a September or October wedding?

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Yeah? I'm at the point in my life though, where
all my friends are getting divorced, not married.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Is there a party for that? No? Sometimes I was
gonna say, I was like the get together that you
get invited to. Here's where I'm at on that. I
got married August twenty it was just before football season.
I would never do that to someone. I would never
do that to someone.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Don't bring this up around. My wife got married in
November and oh no, yeah, and on a on a
Saturday in November. Now, the only saving grace is this
was in two thousand and two. Nebraska's football team was
not very good that year. Relatively they had been right. Yeah,
it was a very disappointing year. But it was still

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the evening of the Nebraska Texas game at oh No.
And her family from Kansas didn't care. My family. There's
some comments made. There's some comments made, and every time
my wife would hear it, wait, that's the day of
the Texas game, she would get more and more mad.
And she's still mad today. It's been twenty three years.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Why why November? Like you, you didn't have to say
it on this because we got did you schedule this
three years early?

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Oll? I bought nine eight nine months and it advanced
and uh and not not because we were trying to
get it in before she gave birth. That was just
a timeframe. We got it engaged in February and by
that night she we already were looking at dates and
she came up with that date. And I was blinded
by love and excited because I'm engaged, and I wasn't thinking, oh,

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that's football season. I wonder when the Texas game.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
It's big, big venue, like the venue you couldn't move
dates on, or something.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Like when a woman decides this is when we're getting married. Okay,
it's it's like, hang on, I'm halfway down this water slide.
I would like to stop and talk about the water slide.
You can't stop. Okay, Well, don't tell her I said this.
But that's an insane thing to do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
And in two thousand and two, I would forgive it
because we don't have everything on our fingertips now that
we would have otherwise, right, Like you would be able
to watch that game no matter what. But now it's
like I could watch a thousand games on a Saturday.
Robbing me of that by scheduling your wedding on a
Saturday in September, October or November.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
In our defense. At that time, a lot of games
were one o'clock kick. We got married at five or
six o'clock, and I forget which which hour we got married,
so we thought perhaps the game would be over in
our defense. You tried, Yeah, you failed. So many of
these are tbds. I understand. It's just no football season.

(01:27:27):
And I just got a text for my wife. Thanks
right after you called her insane. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
I didn't say she was insane. I said that the
idea was insane.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
How she took it, No, missus Moore, he said, I'm
coming down there to strangle Amory.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Well, I deserve it. Ladies and gentlemen, it was a
nice knowing you. Thanks for listening on your Friday on
news radio eleven ten kfab Em he's telling that happy
day to of course, all the latest on the Charlie
Kirk situation, different teachers, different social media posters, people who
you know, Charlie Kirk himself in twenty sixteen. If pretty

(01:28:03):
viral is going ReViral again? If that's a word of teams,
so you tell a lot about somebody by the way
they reacting. Someone dies, right, We're seeing that. We're seeing
that about a lot of different people. Try to have
a good heart, Try to understand that the people who

(01:28:24):
have their hate in their heart right now, there will
be an opportunity in the future for a mirror to
come up and show them the kind of rhetoric in
the conversation that they have and they just can't help
themselves then to spew that out on social media. So
we're all gonna be better off if we try to
be the bigger person. And I know I'm going to
get a bunch of hate emails now because I said that,

(01:28:45):
because people want me to fight fire with fire. That's
not who I am. It's not who I'm going to be.
But yeah, seeing some of the social media posts, especially
now that we know who the suspect is in the shooting,
has opened another can of worms since to ways we
can attack each other politically. I hate it, I really do.
I hate it. You know what we wen to talking
about now instead, though, because you'll have plenty of time

(01:29:08):
to go back and listen to us talk about this
on the Emery Songer podcast page on the free iHeartRadio app.
Standing up at football games, standing up at events like
concerts when most of the rest of the crowd is seated.
What are your thoughts, Scott voy is with me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
I think my thoughts are exactly the same as what
we've been talking about, and that is, look out for
each other, read social cues, and if the people in
front of me are standing up. Let's say you're at
a show and you want to sit down, but everyone
in front of you is standing up because either a
great play is going on at a football game or

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your favorite band is now playing your favorite song, and
everyone's on their feet. You don't get a chance to
sit back there and sit down and go, hey, sit down,
all right, come on, grandma, stand up like the rest
of us, or stay se didn't look at my back
of my jeans, enjoy the show of my jeans. But
if you decide like, hey, I'm the only one around

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here that wants to stand up, because I think it's
more cool if I stand up and you look around.
The people in front of you are sitting down, the
people behind you were sitting down, and everyone's trying to
look around you. Sit down, you can see sit down.
Let's look out for each other.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Yeah. So here, I've flipped on this a little bit
because if you would have asked me a couple of
years ago how I felt. And I went to a
lot of things, but most of the games I was
going to, I was working most of the time. I know,
a very privileged thing to do, working, whether I was
on press row, whether I was doing MC work like

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I do for the Maverick hockey and basketball teams, which,
by the way, I'm doing the basketball games this year.
The men's basketball games.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Oh cool.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
I hope they continue to be really really yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Fun.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
But it's fun to do that stuff, right. I get
a pretty good see to see what's going on, you know,
I get it. I may have been a little bit
out of touch the last couple of years. I've gone
to a lot of games, Nebraska games, Creighton games, U
and O games where I'm not working. I have gone
to a lot of concerts at like Steelhouse. Those are

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all usually standing yeah, But when you go to like
the Orphiam or the Holland Center, there might be an
act that people want to stand up for and be
excited about, but there are chairs and a lot of
people are seated. Your enthusiasm level isn't necessarily indicative of
what the appropriate thing is to do. And I have

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learned that the last couple of years, because you're right,
it is pretty easy to identify who the jerk is
in the scenario if there's a person standing and all
the people behind them are subsequently trying to sit and
they're not standing just because it's a big play. They're
standing just because they want to stay. And there are
places in the stadium that you could do that, there

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are places in in of arena that you can do that,
but everybody else is trying to sit down.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Sit down.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Yeah, I don't think that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
To ask some people that say, if you're sitting down,
you're not really enjoying it. Yeah, I am. I paid
for this, I'm enjoying it, and it's all it's fun.
Like for the football game this past Saturday, when suddenly,
you know, Rayola is passing one in the air to
Barney and people suddenly get on their feet because they
want to see if he's going to bring it in
for a touchdown. That's fun. That's a cool experience. Now

(01:32:38):
the people in the visualize that. But you know, I'm
also a little bit out of touch. I mean, I'm
not a giant, but at six foot I'm average or
maybe a little bit above average. At No. Point. At
hardly any point unless i'm you know, standing behind the
you know, nineteen eighty seven Los Angeles Lakers or something
like that. I'm not usually missing anything because I can't see. Now.

(01:33:00):
I'm married a wife who is fun sized. She's a
little shorter. She is somewhere between a dwarf and little person. Wow. Well,
since we're already trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Have you seen have you she's seen people that would
consider themselves a little person. I feel like she's a
little taller than they are.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
I know, I'm already gonna hear it when I get home.
I'm mightna get home and she'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Like, I can't all right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
You know how little kids will tell you like I'm
four and a half, and my wife will tell you
I'm five three and three quarters. Like that's how that's
how tall she is. She has to put n three
quarters in there to get as much as possible. My
wife is like five five, it's not that much taller.
So so my wife can't see as well. So for

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me to be like, it's not a big deal. Some
people stand up and all that stuff, she can't. If
everyone's standing up, she usually can't see that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
In okay music, festivals, a certain situation where you're going
to be standing under no circumstance. Yeah, will you not
be standing? I feel terrible for people who are short,
like five seven and shorter. You're really in a bad
situation there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
But that's when my wife will grab me by the
wrist and drag me up towards the front of the stage,
which if I can get there first then I'm okay with,
of course, But if suddenly she's like, well, I want
to be able to see this is my favorite band,
and she drags me up there and I'm like sorry, sorry,
and now I'm move in front of someone. I look
back and I just kind of knifed in front of
someone who I'm taller than. I feel terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Have you ever thought, yeah, yeah, I'll let her, let
her go do her thing, and you'll stay back.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Yes, And she knows why I'm doing it because I'm
I'm one of those weirdo's that doesn't like to be
in people's way.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
But no, I just think that you are truly aware
of your surroundings, look out for everybody. I'm with you.
The reason I bring this is because I saw some
discourse about the Nebraska football game last week of people
in certain sections that we're standing for periods of play,
especially in the first half. We're excited about, you know,

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the Nebraska home opener, and they were obscuring the vision
of some older folks who might have been a row
or two behind them, who didn't want to stand for
the entirety of the game. I get, it's a free country.
You should do what makes you happy. At the same time,
it's kind of like be respectful of you know, what
everybody else is kind of looking at and feeling like,

(01:35:34):
I feel like that's common courtesy four forty seven. Somehow
that turned into a debate for some people. I guess
we got more coming up on news radio eleven ten
KFAB fifteen minutes or so, I'll have Sean Callahan on,
we'll have our final Husker Buzz of the week, and
the Husker Online show is going to be on the
air at six o'clock tonight. We're previewing. These are the

(01:35:55):
tough games to talk about, honestly, the ones that you're
excited for, but you're excited just to see the team play.
And Scott vories with me, you're a big Red fanatic. Yes,
you're gonna watch this game.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Yeah, yeah, and I like it eleven o'clock kick because
I can get some meat smoking or you know, on
the grill or whatever in the morning and have that
ready to go and just be ravenously hungry by eleven o'clock.
I won't have breakfast tomorrow. I'll do an eleven o'clock brunch,
which will be meat with more meat, and I'll watch

(01:36:32):
that football game. And will I still be watching deep
into the second half of this one? I kind of
hope not, because I don't want it. I don't want
it to be a close game. You want the interest
level to do. If I end up watching the whole game,
it'll be on my terms, not because it's a close game.
Or maybe now you're like, Okay, I've got the entire

(01:36:53):
afternoon to do whatever it is I want to do,
which might be watch other football games. I don't know.
I haven't figured it out yet.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Yeah, so I'm it's interesting. So I'm I like football
and I like watching. I'll do if I'm at home,
I have YouTube TV, and I'll make a quad box
out of the games that I'm most interested in, and
then if there's a single game that I'm really interested in,
whether it's you know, Nebraska or Iowa State or on
Sundays the Bears. I'll have a second television. I'll actually

(01:37:20):
bring in my living room and just put that game
on that television. This game I was thinking about going
to this game, decided against it, just because that's an
early tailgate for a game that my wife would certainly
be falling asleep during by the third quarter, hopefully just
the fact that we're up by fifty and that's the end. Hopefully.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
You're saying she's fall asleep because she's bored. Yeah, not
because she starts sundowning at one thirty in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
You're right, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
No, no, no, you are married to a ninety three
year old woman, but she doesn't look a day over
ninety one.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Yeah, no, no, that's I don't roll quite quite that way,
but that you know, My thought is, if we're going
to go to a game, we're going to try to
be a part of a game that has conference implications
and might be you know, a bit more interesting for longer.
You know, maybe we're getting a little greedy on that.

(01:38:17):
I'm not so sure, but I scout this stuff out.
What are the other games going on in that window
because this weeks two and three, Week one, there as
quite a few really solid games Week two and week three.
You're kind of a lot of these bigger schools, much
like Nebraska, schedule some weaker opposition for a chance to
you know, get a win before they get into conference play.

(01:38:39):
That is mostly the mostly the case. The eleven am window,
Wisconsin at Alabama could be kind.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Of yeah, that's a good game. I will win.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
That I don't but you know, like it could be interesting.
Oklahoma on the road at Temple at eleven am, which
is very strange that a ranked Oklahoma goes to Temple.
I found this out. A lot of those are like
home and homes, and instead of paying a team four
or five million dollars to come and get beat just
for a game at your home, you schedule a home

(01:39:14):
game for both of you so you can go and
try to beat them there too, and then they'll come
and play you and you don't have to pay them money.
So in this new age, you're trying to save as
much money as possible so you can give it to players.
That's that's a way. Like I always says, doing the
same thing against Arkansas State, but Clemson and Georgia Tech's
an eleven AM kick that also could be kind of fun.
But I don't know. I hope not to care about

(01:39:35):
this game for long. I'll be honest, last hour with
you until we hit the six o'clock hour, where you
will hear the Husker Online Show with our good friend
Sean Callahan breaking down everything from this week, what we know,
what we've learned, and what we can expect intomorrow's game
against Houston Christian. We've got some Husker pulls going on

(01:39:56):
right now, though, and Sean is joining us here on
the phone line on how you doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
Well, good afternoon, Memory. I'm getting ready to take over
the mic for you at six o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Yeah, and I appreciate that. Here's a question, it's probably
incredibly unprofessional, and you don't have to answer if you
don't want. How do you get yourself up for a
week like this?

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Oh gosh, I mean I've been doing this so long.
I mean I look at it every Saturday as a
precious Saturday, and there's only twelve of them technically told
the Bowl games and stuff, and this is number three,
so we're twenty five percent through, So you've got it.
I mean, we talk about this all year, get ready
for it. So anytime you assemble in that stadium, it's

(01:40:40):
it's a big deal. And you know, I don't care
who they're playing. And the amazing thing is it will
be a sellout tomorrow for this game, so you know
there's a lot still on the line. Always when Nebraska
gets in there and plays a football game.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Yeah, and you're right, it's just you know, I couldn't
imagine all the stuff that you have to do on
a week to week basis during the year, and you
have a game where do we have a line yet?
Is there any spread that you've seen anywhere on this one?

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
Well, don't quote me officially on this, but I was
speaking in Springfield last night the Springfield Legion Club, and
a gentleman and the crowd shared that a bookie he
knows of in South Omaha has it at forty nine
and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
A boogie he knows.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Usually like on a game like this, you might only
be able to find action on a local book. There
is no that I've seen at least Vegas number, because
it is very unpredictable what this could do. I mean,
last week, Nebraska made it look so easy and it
could easily happen like that. Again, it could easily be
a forty point win. So I think the odds makers

(01:41:46):
don't know how to probably set a game like this
because you don't know how a team will play their
starters and what they'll do. But yeah, I think Nebraska
is a six or seven touchdown favorite if you're being
realistic about what the number would be.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Yeah, well probably realistically, if we're gonna be honest with ourselves,
they should be considering the talent that it's been brought in.
It's just a matter of what they realistically put the
foot down on the gas pedal that much in this game.
You've talked about Houston Christian though, I mean they put
sixty nine points up in their first game. Again, that
is not a team at the Division one level that

(01:42:20):
they played, but you know they can run the ball.
They've least shown the ability to do that. Akron could
end up being a much worse team than Houston Christian theoretically,
based on what we'll see the rest of the season.
I'm comparing it to last week though, because it's in
our memory. Sixty eight points. It was a really impressive
showing there by the Huskers. Would you anticipate with the

(01:42:42):
ball control that Houston Christian theoretically could have that should
be at least marginally better than what we saw from Akron.
Do you anticipate there being even enough possessions to get
you know, a seven or eight touchdown victory.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Yeah. I'll tell you what. Last week, what made it
happen was the defense got off the field. Akron was
one of fourteen on third downs last week one of fourteen,
and Nebraska went eight consecutive possessions of touchdowns. So, I mean,
this doesn't happen. I've covered a lot of football games
in my life, and I don't know if I've ever
seen that kind of game from Nebraska where it went

(01:43:18):
that way both ways. I mean back in the nineties,
you know, there were obviously games where Nebraska hung, I
mean hung seventy seven points on Arizona State when Jake
Plumber was the quarterback. So they lost them the next
year after that, though, But you know, this doesn't happen though,
like what we saw last week very often. I That's

(01:43:40):
why it's hard to believe that they could do it again,
because a lot of things have to go right with
your defense on third down winning and getting off the field,
and your offense has got to execute, not fumble, not
throw the ball, not miss the protection. I mean, there's's
got to be a lot of things that go right
to win a game the way Nebraska did, especially because
Akron last week was not turned it over. It wasn't

(01:44:01):
like they were just dropping the ball and fumbling it. Now.
They did have six drop passes too. That was another
thing that helped that game get out of whack. A
lot of those third down conversions might have happened, but
there were six drop passes by the Zips.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
Well, and it just tells you how frustrating it probably
was for their coaching staff just to try to get
through that game and in one piece. As far as
this game goes, Sean, you know, I sit with the
rosters and things in front of me, and you mentioned,
what was it, one hundred and eight players got on
the field last week.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
The one hundred and eight players and no punters.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Oh yeah, it's crazy, right, So I'm sure that that's
going to be something in the back of the mind
of different coaches and everything. I was talking earlier today
on my other show with the play by play voice
of the Iowa State cyclones John Walters, and they're on
the road at Arkansas State this week, which is very strange.
Oklahoma's on the road at Temple seems very strange. Is

(01:45:00):
this kind of a future thing, because this was something
that he said to me, is that, you know, you
generally have to pay for a team like Akron or
Houston Christian or Arkansas State or Temple to come and
you know, get beat up for a week in the
early part of the non conference season. And what Iowa
State has done at least is they schedule home and
homes with Ohio and Arkansas State and some of the

(01:45:22):
other group of five schools that they'll end up playing,
So they will every other year basically be playing a
smaller school on the road, and because of that deal,
they don't have to pay four or five million dollars
to get that school to agree to come and get
beat up for a game in ames. Is that something
you see as being the future of scheduling for these

(01:45:45):
power conference teams. I know Nebraska hasn't historically done that,
but you know, and it's hard to imagine Nebraska going
on the road to play an Akron, if you will,
But is that something that you see in the changing
landscape of paying players and trying to save as much
money as possible to be a realistic, you know, thing
to do instead of a bye game.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
Yeah, I think in some leagues it will be the
acc in the Big twelve, particularly we saw West Virginia
go to Ohio last week and lose, and that's driving
distance for that fan base. But you know what is more,
you've seen this for a little window, but not in
a while. At Nebraska, they scheduled what's called a two
for one where two of the games are in Lincoln
and one is on the road, and they did a

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two for one with Fresno State, a two for one
with Wyoming. They had a two for one with Southern Miss,
and then Southern Miss realized they needed the money and
they were going to move the game to Arrowhead or
New Orleans, and then Osborne just said, how about we
just pay to play the game in Lincoln, And so
they got paid a lot more to play the game
in Lincoln on that two for one. But that's really it.

(01:46:46):
I mean, they've done a few two for ones over
the years, but not really any true home and homes
with lower group of fives. I mean they went I
don't consider Wake four obviously a group of five, but
that was an obscure non conference series back in two
thousand and six and seven. I would have been five.

(01:47:08):
In two thousand and five and seven. Around that time,
they had a series with wake Forest and that was
kind of out there as when Nebraska traveled out to
wake Forest, but that was still a big game. Wake
Forest won the Orange Bowl the year the year after
Nebraska went out there and played him. So they've done
some games like that that are obscure. But no, nothing
like a home at home. And I was I saw,

(01:47:29):
I was listening. I saw a clip with Chris Hassel
and Williams and they were talking about Iowa State as
a game with the Bowling Green on the road, which
is just shocking. I mean, you just don't see, you know,
the big rock band take the show into Bowling Green.
It just doesn't you know, you don't do that when
you're a ranked our four team. So it is interesting,
but I get it. I mean, people are trying to

(01:47:50):
find dollars where they can find them right now.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Yeahs Sean Kelly enjoying us. Yeah, as long as Pudge
the Cat is still a thing. I am totally down
with a road game for I was stay at Bowling Green.
Last thing for you sean pretty light week. Again, there
are a few ranked matchups which are pretty interesting. First,
what is your pick on what's gonna happen with the
Huskers against Houston Christian If you can give me a

(01:48:13):
score that you think is realistic, I know it's gonna
be tough considering circumstances.

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
Yeah, I'll go fifty five to seven. Yeah, I think
Nebraska breaks fifty. I think you'll probably give up a point.
But it would be something. If they could get back
to back shutouts that has not happened since two thousand
I'm sorry, nineteen ninety seven. It is rare. I mean
they didn't have a shutout Emory and since two thousand
and nine. And if they could go back to back,
I mean that's quite a feat, especially for a defense.

(01:48:42):
I don't think a lot of people consider an elite
in Nebraska defense right now. I mean it's a developing defense.
It's this is not a eighty six Bears in Nebraska
defense by any means. But if they could get back
to back shutouts, that would be something. But yeah, it's
gonna be hard. Because you know, to get a shutout,
you have to really you can't miss a tackle, you
can't turn it over. You got to do everything right.

(01:49:03):
And they did that last week and their turnover was
at the one yard line and actually helped them get
a safety on the other side of it, so that
worked out even though they turned it over at the one.
But yes, I think for Nebraska is stopping the run,
getting off a field on third down, coming out and
executing at a high level, possibly finding points on special
teams with the return game. Those are all things. And

(01:49:25):
you got to get the crowd going. Eleven am game,
you got to get you got to get the beer
lines flowing. You got to get people going in that game.

Speaker 1 (01:49:32):
Yeah, well we'll see if the beer lines actually get flowing,
we'll see what happens open up. Yeah, well that's the
thing is. Hopefully that's going to be a thing that
continues to get better. Also in Memorial Stadium as the
season wears on. Sean Callahan as always great stuff. Can't
wait to hear what Husker Online show looks like about
forty minutes from now. Appreciate the time, Thank you, have

(01:49:54):
a great weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
We'll talk one day.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
Yeah, sir, it is five nineteen. Thank you so much.
There are other sporting events that are going on this weekend,
some other intriguing college football matchups we'll talk about. There's
also some very interesting volleyball matchups that we'll talk about,
including Big Red and also you pretty dog on Big
Fight that's happening this weekend, and we will get to
that also on news radio eleven to ten kfab. Em

(01:50:19):
Riiszonger on news Radio eleven ten kfab. Sounds like a
little bit of drama in Nebraska volleyball lands and I
just wanted to alert this because Nebraska volleyball is about
to play yet another ranked team. By the way, kind
of crazy to me how often that they schedule ranked teams.

(01:50:40):
This is why this program is so good, because they
play so many tough opponents. But this night, Nebraska is
in Lincoln taking on twenty second ranked Utah and that
is going to be first serve just after six o'clock
today and you can watch the game on FS one.
Apparently there was some drama today as Rebecca Alex who's

(01:51:03):
a volleyball player in place, she's an important player for
the team. Our brother was a men's basketball player for
the Huskers as well, but she shared on her Instagram
a post basically grieving the loss of Charlie Kirk this
week and apparently, and again, I could go do a

(01:51:24):
lot of investigation all the way down through all these
hundreds of comments that Harper Murray, who many would probably
consider to be one of, if not the best players
Nebraska hasn't also in the country, has apparently liked a
bunch of comments in the comment section that are mocking

(01:51:48):
Charlie Kirk's death are opposed to Rebecca Alex's post here. Now,
with that being said, right, that's social media. Harper Murray
is kind of an interesting individual. It's quite a sketchy
past and got in trouble and missed some time because
she was arrested for shoplifting and also has a DUI
on her record. Nebraska has been patient with her. I

(01:52:09):
think her volleyball skills helped that. She seems like a
nice enough person when she speaks, but has had problems
with decision making in the past, And last night apparently
made a post on her TikTok or Instagram story or
whatever and says the urge I have to repost so
many tiktoks, But I go to school in Nebraska, so

(01:52:30):
no one will agree with me. Laughy face, laughy face. Look,
if Charlie Kirk was alive and he was asked about this,
he would say everyone would have a right to have
their own political opinion or their own opinion about whatever
is or isn't happening, and whether or not that should

(01:52:52):
determine how we feel about a person. I guess is
on us, but it certainly is dividing at least some
Nebraska fans over the last day or so. For whatever
it's worth, there is a photo of warm ups today
where Harper Murray is hugging Rebecca Aleck in person. Now
whether or not Nebraska fans decide that they're going to
turn on Harper Murray now after she was arrested for

(01:53:13):
shoplifting and got arrested for a deuy and has been
a fairly squeaky wheel personality wise, even for John Cook,
but she loves playing volleyball for Nebraska. It seems she
is going to play tonight. It will be interesting to
see if there is any sort of weirdness with the match,
But it does not appear as though in person there's
any sort of weirdness between Harper Murray and Rebecca Alex.

(01:53:36):
So I'm not making a comment on this as far
as how I feel about it. I think that everyone
has a right to have whatever opinion they are and
we can make a determination on what that says about
them as a person. But as far as whether or
not you support Harper Murray and or Rebecca alec and
or the entirety of the Nebraska Cornhusker volleyball team, as
far as I'm concerned, go big Red. That game first

(01:53:59):
served after six on FS one. Utah a ranked team
coming to town to take on Nebraska. It is five
twenty eight. More coming up on news Radio eleven ten
Kfab and Rare You Songer on news Radio eleven ten Kfab.
I am looking forward to this volleyball match tonight. I
am probably gonna go hang out watch the game, have

(01:54:20):
some beers celebrate the end of a work week. A
tough work week for me, I know, relatively speaking, it
was not tough for many other people. My job doesn't
seem tough, I should say, I don't know, you know,
it's just like every single day we possibly can work
on our the meaners and how good of a person

(01:54:45):
that we are in some days and some weeks it
feels like an easier thing to do than others, if
that makes sense. What we can learn from that is
up to us, and that's what I'm hopeful to do,
is to learn be better. Come back next week, do
some awesome shows.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
Another thing that we're gonna do is talk about some
fun stuff this week, and that's happening. And one of
those things is the Bud Crawford fight against Canelo Alvarez.
That fight is tomorrow and the weigh ins are complete
and both fighters weigh the exact same weight one hundred
and sixty seven zero point five pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
How much fat is on Bud Crawford as a percentage, Well,
let's just b am.

Speaker 1 (01:55:28):
I I don't know what it is, but I would
imagine that it's more now than it was a few
months ago because Bud Crawford weighed in before his last
fight at one fifty four, So he is bumped up
to what is a career.

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
High in weight. Muscle weighs more than fat.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
But that's the thing is are you putting on that
much muscle for like, in that amount of time Because
he had to make weight at one fifty four.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
You kind of body like that, though you can have
a glass of water and get three pounds. Hey, I
don't know he's calling Bud Crawford fat. No, I'm just saying,
you know, saying he looks paunchy. No, what I'm saying
is incentive cutting weight. He bulked up, which is kind
of the other way. He usually goes the other way around, right,
which is at one fifty four. I mean, you want
to talk about just muscle mass and BMI. There's not
a lot there.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
So when you're looking at him pudgy, portly stouts, what
do you he looks. He looks the same, maybe just
a hair thicker, but certainly just whatever his body makeup is.
And this is why they have a ton of people
working on these guys' camps, because the nutrition to fight Canelo,
he had to get up to this weight. I mean,
he could have fought him when he's weighing one hundred
and fifty eight one hundred and sixty pounds, but in boxing,

(01:56:39):
I mean that's a disadvantage. You you don't have as
much mass, you don't have as much power to deal
with Canelo, and Canelo this is kind of his weight.
I mean, one sixty eight is like a healthy cut
for him. The most he's weight in a fight was
a few years ago when he was up to around
one hundred and seventy five. You would imagine he probably
is most comfortable. You know, if he was not a

(01:57:00):
boxer an athlete, he would weigh probably one to eighty something.
But he is able to cut down and be ripped
at one sixty eight, whereas Bud has to. You know,
he's got to bulk up to be able to get
to that weight. He's never been this heavy before going
into a fight. Not that they you're calling it fat,
slow and weak, that he's not gonna have the power. No,

(01:57:23):
he didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
A lot of weight on him.

Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
No, you're making things up as you hear them.

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
You said he's a hair thicker.

Speaker 3 (01:57:30):
He is.

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
He's a hair thicker. He's put on fifteen pounds almost
since his last fight.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
Next time one of our female coworkers comes in here
next week, say hey, you just look a hair thicker
than last week. See how that goes over.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
This is we're talking about boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:57:45):
Bud Cropper is going to kick your butt.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
I can't believe what I'm hearing right now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
If you look at the pictures from his fight last August,
he looks like butter Beean.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
No, but he looks just a little thicker. I mean,
when you've add fourteen pounds, you are going to look
a little differently. He is still jacked, he's still ripped.
He still looks like he's like he looks like a man,
right like, he looks like a real fighter. I'm not
saying that he's fat or anything. I'm just saying if
you look at him last year when he had his fight,

(01:58:16):
the last time we saw him fight, and you look
at him now, he has to put on weight. But
it's not because he just put on weight for no reason.
He put on weight because he needs to put on
weight to be able to match the power of Canelo
Ouverz because mass equals gas. I don't know if you
know this, but in terms of like for for power,
weight and acceleration matters.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
He is saying he's gassy.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
He's just he's fast, He's got all the moves. He
is an undisputed champion of multiple weight classes pound for pound,
one of the best fighters in the world. Still to
this day, Canello is a great fighter too. He's one
of the ten best according to the pound for pound rankings.
He's a top ten pound for pound guy. Still, he's
a famous guy. He does a lot of endorsements, a
lot of people know who he is. He's a mover

(01:58:59):
and shaker. Two these are two guys that I mean.
This should be a fantastic fight. But this weight advantage
Canelo Alvarez. He has fought at one sixty eight more
times than he has fought at any other weight class
in his entire career, and he can fight heavier. He
cuts to this weight, which you could say is an
advantage for him because he knows like he's more cut

(01:59:22):
at this weight than Bud Is. Budd's just a little
bit smaller by nature, which is why he cuts down
usually around one fifty four. So now that he's bulked
back up to get to one sixty eight, one sixty
seven and a half, to be exact, he is fighting
at a weight he has never fought at before. That
could lead to not saying this is going to happen,
but that could lead to him tiring a little bit quicker,

(01:59:44):
a little bit more weight on the feet. We know
how these guys train. He's certainly going to be ready
for that. But over the course of twelve rounds, I
mean that could really start to add up if you
have to really be active with your lower body as
you're working on Canelo Alvarez. And then you throw in
the fact that not only has he not fought like this,
but he's facing one of the top fighters. Not that
he hasn't faced great fighters, but he's facing a truly

(02:00:04):
top fighter of his generation in Canelo Alvarez at his
preferred weight class.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Man, I hope he quits and the game quits the
sport before tomorrow night. He has no chance.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
I'm breaking it down as if it's like Nebraska when
they were at their peak taking on maybe those vaunted
Miami Hurricanes, and you're sitting there, you're just kind of like,
you know what, the weather it kind of actually plays
a factor in favor of Miami, you know what. The
speed of the game, if they're playing on this surface
or these conditions, it could favor Miami. This is what
I'm saying. I think Bud's gonna win. Bud hasn't lost

(02:00:34):
a fight yet. I have no reason believe he's going
to start losing now. But Canelo is a formidable opponent.
He's won sixty three fights of sixty seven fights he's
fought in his life. He's fighting at his preferred weight class,
and Bud has had to bulk up fourteen pounds from
his last weight class from his last fight, which I
know is a year ago, but it's still a change
in a body makeup for a guy who's never fought

(02:00:55):
at this weight. I'm just saying it's going to be
an adjustment for him. I'm sure he's trained for it,
but do not be surprised if this seems to be
a bigger challenge, then you might be thinking, well, Bud's
not going to get challenged. He's taking care of everybody
he's ever fought. He has Canell Lalvarez though he's still legit.
So just throwing it out there. So when Crawford wins
in the first round, not gonna happen. How does what

(02:01:17):
do you do on Monday when I bring when I
play back this segment?

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
Do you just go oh and then just do a
time check and go to traffic? Is that no?

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
I mean, I'll say I was wrong. That's fine. I've
been wrong about stuff before. I said I was wrong.
I said I was wrong on this show, I was
pro staying up whenever you want at a stadium. A
couple of years ago, on this show, I admitted defeat
and said, that's not the way that you should behave.
You should look at the other people around your section,
and if they're all standing, feel free to stand. If
they're all sitting, you should get out of people's eyelines.

(02:01:49):
Like there's no I'm willing to eat crow. But if
Canelo Avarez or Bud Crawford in this fight and win
this fight within three or four rounds, I'd be floored.
I mean, it would be the upset of the century
would be the fact that this fight didn't make it
into like the at least the eighth or the ninth round.
These are two well conditioned athletes that are still in

(02:02:10):
their physical primes. They're both two of the best that
have ever done this, especially in the last twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
Now you're saying that, No, what I'm said us ago
you were saying that Bud Crawford was a gelatinous tub
of crap. Is that what you called him? No, what
I said was he was Sudd Crawford is a big, fat, gassy,
gelatinous tub of crap.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
I said mass equals gas, and that he weighs fourteen
pounds heavier than he did a year ago when he
last fought, and that that could be an adjustment that
could play at the Canelo Alvarez's hands, who did not
have to gain a bunch of weight to get to
a proper weight limit for these two to be able
to meet and fight in Vegas tomorrow. Just throwing it
out there. I still think Bud's gonna win. For whatever
it's worth. It is five forty seven. Thanks for listening

(02:02:53):
to news Radio eleven ten kfab absolutely looking forward to
watching volleyball tonight, football tomorrow, boxing tomorrow night, and my
Chicago Bear is trying to get their first win of
the season on Sunday, Scott Boards, what are you up to?
What do you got to going in?

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
I have zero plans tonight. If that sounds pathetic to you,
then you haven't reached the point in your life where
saying well, I got nothing to do tonight sounds super awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
Yeah, I do not.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
I have nothing I have to do tonight, and I
love it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:23):
So do you go out like? Are you a go
out and find something to do?

Speaker 3 (02:03:26):
Guy?

Speaker 2 (02:03:26):
If I go on couch. If I go this is
where you go home and you read the wife. If
the wife is still wearing kind of work clothes, nice
work clothes, it's like, hey, let's go get a drink. Nice.
If my wife already has her pajamason like, hey, let's
go watch another episode of Only Murders in the Building.

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:03:50):
If my wife is not wearing anything at all, we're
staying in. You just got to read the situation. Let
me know when we go live. Are we on almost
how often does that last one happen? I? Uh, if
I I think I've said too much, the.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
Answer to the ladies and gentlemen is not as much
as it used to. And thank you for listening to
our radio show. We are in deed live here on
your Friday. You know what I'm gonna do it a
uh bar. There's some octoberfesty stuff happening at a couple
of bars. I'm gonna maybe hit one of those up.
Just get my October festiness on. Some people send me
the German American Society uh here in Omaha, got there

(02:04:34):
big octoberfest next weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
So that's that's always a really cool place to hang out. Now,
if you're looking for a slightly younger vibe. That might
not be it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
But I am young. I'm very youthful. Yes, I am
a youth.

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
Having never been to an october Fest event at the
German American Society, I might not know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:04:53):
I'm sure. I'm sure that particular event is going to
feel younger than maybe general events that are happening there.

Speaker 2 (02:05:01):
Anyone who goes to an october Fest event is automatically
young at heart. Sure, don't let the gray hair fool you.
They can drink you under the table, every single one
of them. Yeah, I bet they can. You know what
I'm gonna tell you is that later hosen. I like
getting festive, but I don't have later hosen, So I

(02:05:21):
feel a little bit kind of not all the way
in on october Fest until I go to one of
these wearing later hosen. So what you're wearing now, you
just call those tights? Is that what we have on
something like that?

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
You know what I am gonna do, though, So I'm
gonna drink some beer, I'm gonna have some food. I'm
gonna watch sports and revel in the presence of my friends,
my dogs, my wife, and have a great weekend and
recharge and come back hopefully with a lot of good things,
positive things and news that can uplift us and break

(02:05:55):
down and things that are progressing one way or the
other in this nation. And that hopefully is going to
be what we talk about next week, because I could
use that because guess what next week is?

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
Michigan Week.

Speaker 1 (02:06:10):
Yes, but also my birthday, oh and your birthday, my birthday, I'll.

Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
Get you some.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
I'm graduating from being a youth to being a slightly
older youth.

Speaker 2 (02:06:20):
Yeah, I'm sure some of Bud Crawford's old leader host
in a pitches since he's big fat guy.

Speaker 1 (02:06:24):
Now, hey, you know what if Bud wants to donate
his later host and I'm sure he could sign them
and they'd go for a pretty penny for a charity
on eBay, and maybe that's where we should put it.
Five fifty five. Thanks for listening Huskar Online show coming
up next with Sean Callahan. We thank you for listening
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