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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I was unclear or unsure that we were going to
get an actual verdict. Not a verdict, that's the wrong word.
That's the other story. I want to talk about, an
actual arrest. I didn't know if we were going to
catch this guy because my thought was that this was
going to be a person, the guy that killed Brian Thompson,
Iowa native who's the CEO of United Healthcare last Wednesday.
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My feeling was that this was going to be a guy,
that he was professional, It was done in a way
that he was going to be able to escape the
fact that they hadn't seen him for four full days
made me feel like he's out of the country. And
I'm not saying that I was like personally upset about this,
because of course I wasn't, you know. I think if
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you commit a crime like murder, for whatever your reasoning,
you should be caught and you should be prosecuted to
the fullest extent of the law and let a judge
and a jury decide whether or not you actually deserve
to serve time. Well, turns out that this guy was
not as professional as I was thinking that he was.
(01:04):
Twenty six year old Luigi Mangione not to get miss
mistaken with Chuck Mangione.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh what a poll that was? It was a poll.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Now I'm searching for dron No no, no, no, feel
so good? No, no so good, because it's gonna it's
gonna mess with our pod. I''m glad I didn't tell
you ahead of time. But yeah, not no relation as
far as we know to the legendary Chuck man Joni.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I think we could play like two seconds and then
we can get away with it with the copyright laws.
I just want to give people a little bit of
man Jon, you know, just a little bit of just
a lit up better Chucky, just a little.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Bit of man Jon. You're lucky. I put up with this.
It's Monday. Go ahead, what the people deserve. Oh, I
gotta find it.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, okay, don't find it all right? Window window god
Uh Chuck Chuck Manngoni. Not, as far as we know,
related to Luigi Manngoni McDonald's in Pennsylvania. Yeah, he was
out of McDonald's in Pennsylvania. This guy who who perpetrated
a high profile murder. We don't know why yet. We
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don't know if it was him or he was hired
by somebody else to do this. He was found at
a McDonald's in Pennsylvania. He was in Pennsylvania, a border
state to New York. He was in Altoona, Pennsylvania, not
all that far away from where all this stuff was
going on.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
No, I guess after the electric bike ran out of juice,
he traveled by horse.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Pennsylvania. McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Come on, man, this is not supposed to be how
this ends. And I'm not trying to like glamorize what's
going on here, but McDonald's in Pennsylvania. Now, I'd like
to know how they knew it was him. We were
talking about this before we went on the air. You
don't have a lot to go off of. Oh, not
at all. I mean, they released some new photos earlier
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today of this guy in a cab, But he was
in a cab with a mask, like a like a
face mask, you know, one of those things that we
had to wear a bunch during COVID. Yeah, it wasn't
like a scarf. I thought it was a scarf initially,
but it was just like a mask. Again, you have
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what the eyes and maybe like the bridge of the
nose that you can kind of see.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think a couple of those pictures where you got
the most of the full face.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, but like the one of him smiling and flirting
is like the best one, and I would be like Stamos,
he looks like John Stamos.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's as far as I would know.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
How much do you have to be able to recognize
somebody and what would they have to have on them
for you to be like, oh, yeah, this is the
person that the news is looking for.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The other disappointing part is for an alleged professional, he
had the weapon, he was still carrying the weapon.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't even know. Yeah, this is not a professional.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
This is the opposite the fact that what does it
say that it took us five days to find this guy.
This guy doesn't know anything. They think potentially based on
what we have heard over the last few hours and again,
this only happened, you know, like ten thirty our time
is when we got the note that there was somebody
in custody in Pennsylvania in connection to this. They believed
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three D printer. Three D printer. Oh really, that's what
they are saying. They may have the gun may have
been made on a three D printer.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
A dangerous new world.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What do you do right, like everybody who's crying out, like,
oh guns, gun safety, gun licensing, three D printer got
access to a really good three D printer.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They also said this, The NYPD returned to Central Park
today to search for evidence, including its dive cruise. What
is there water to dive in at Central Park? Or
is dive cruise? Does that mean something else? Like they
will deep dive into the woods find more information.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I watched I watched elfa over the weekend. A big
part of the climax of that movie is in Central Park. Yeah,
makes you just wonders, like the guy got lost in there,
whoever it was, That's all I was thinking about.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Do you think you were thinking about?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I was like, I was like, no, wonder Santa was
able to get away with this. In elf they can't
find a guy who literally murdered a person in the
middle of the day or in the middle of the morning,
in front of people in New York City as soon
as he entered Central Park. It's just like people forgot
how to look for him. He found a little underground
pipe to just go down into. You know that that
(05:44):
that that that Yeah, No, his name's Luigi All right.
We can only have so much fun with this.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
He's just down there collecting coins pops up in a Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
This is not not supposed to be. No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
They're gonna compare DNA swabs by the way from the
suspect here. We are hopeful to get more information sometime
this afternoon. We don't know what the timeline is on
this stuff. We will give you more information on this.
We'll open the phone lines too. If you've got thoughts
on this, you got thoughts on the crime, you got
thoughts on what I mean, the very seemingly anticlimactic into
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the to the manhunt. Here McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Then
we have phone lines are open four oh two five
five eight eleven ten. Four oh two, five five eight
to eleven ten. This is a Luig g.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Potentially here on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Emrie Sunger on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
He has ties to San Francisco. His last known address Honolulu, Huay.
Now apparently they also found on top of this.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
This isn't just. This isn't just.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And of course, if you're just joining us, Louis Mangioni
a twenty six year old found in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
He had a weapon that was very similar to the
one that was used in the gut and in the
killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last Wednesday in
New York. And he also apparently had a piece of
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paper on him. And well, let's just say this, he
was found out and it appears as though he is
the guy. Everything is pointing to this being the guy.
They have to get a little bit more evidence, like DNA,
maybe find a way to match up some of the
stuff that maybe they were able to locate through the surveillance,
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if he's got the same clothing, things of that nature.
But it sounds by all accounts that this is legitimately
that person.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Also, there was a like I mentioned the manifesto, but
he said, we don't think that there's This is the
people that are in charge of the NYPD talking.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
About this, and.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
This is Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenney, says he has
no prior arrest history in the state of New York
and said we don't think there's any specific threats to
other people mentioned in the document, but it does seem
that he has some ill will toward corporate America.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Show w don't we all, but we don't all resort
to that.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Well, this is what I was saying, is like, is
it a hit, because that could create a completely different problem. Right,
this is a person that was acting alone. Well, this
goes to all the other people who have done terrible
things while acting alone. Well, the person is detained, the
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problem is solved, right kind of right, Like, this isn't
like a piece of a greater movement. This is one
crazy guy who just decided he was going to, you know,
inflict whatever he believed was vigilante justice on a system
that he doesn't agree with. This isn't if it was
like a hit, an ordered hit, which again.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Maybe it is, Maybe it isn't. We still don't know
for sure, But it sounds like the document is a
hymn thing and not a bigger organization thing that he
was like assigned to take out Brian Thompson of all people.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, that's the best conclusion for certain I suppose certain people.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I suppose they said he said he was in possession
of what they're calling a ghost gun, had the capability
of firing a nine millimeter round and a suppressor a
McDonald's now Tuna, Pennsylvania. So when they make the documentary
about this, how are they going to make the like,
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what was he doing in the five days?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Since?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Was he waiting to get caught? Was that the whole point?
Because why else would he have this stuff? Why else
would he have the gun? Why would he have this
document on him that they are calling a manifesto.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Okay, So that right there makes you wonder if he
was waiting for this moment.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
They manifesto contained writings apparently critical of the health insurance
industry specifically. Now again I wonder why Brian Thompson was
the main target here, because how much power does a
CEO have of a publicly traded healthcare insurance company that
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certainly has a ton of people involved in it. Then
this is the other thing I was thinking about this too.
There's so many people out there that just do not
care that this guy got killed. They're like, well, I
guess I think I care about as much as him
dying as they seem to care about the person my
aunt or my mother or my father or whatever, where
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we had been denied care because of a pre existing
condition or something like that, right, It kind of and
you kind of made this you drew this line last week.
I don't know if we talked about it on the air,
but there's like a Robinhood quality to somebody from a
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public perception perspective.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Well, I was just looking at the picture that they
have of him, and he's wearing the literal hood, you know, hood,
and I just thought, how long until people are going
to make the Robin Hood comparison.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Because that they're saying that, Right, It's like, this is
a guy taking down a person who's making seventy six
thousand dollars a day running the healthcare insurance company that
denies more people than any other in America. Almost a
third of people who try to put in claims to
United Healthcare get denied. Who likes insurance companies?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
No one?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
This is I mean, this would be a crime where he,
probably in a public favor, is going to be considered
somewhat of a cult hero. And this is why I
was trying to draw the thing to dB Cooper. Everybody
knows dbe Cooper, right, the guy who in the early
seventies hijacked a plane, a regional flight from Seattle to Portland. Basically,
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he was a hijacker in a very loose term. You
could literally just walk up by. I think he paid
like twenty dollars to get on that flight and then
sat down handed the stewardess and note this says I
have a bomb. She sits down next to him, and
she basically is the run through to negotiate all of
this stuff with this guy who certainly dB Cooper was
(12:45):
not his or Dan Cooper or whatever anybody says that
wasn't his real name. He perpetrates this crime, gets two
hundred thousand dollars in unmarked bills delivered on bags along
with parachutes to this plane, and then and tells the plane,
I will blow the whole thing up if you don't
fly from Portland or wherever he was picked up. And
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then he was flying over Nevada with this two hundred
thousand dollars. He gets instructions from the pilots. He's in
the back talking on the thing while there's nobody else
on this plane. Like everybody else on this plane leaves.
This is a nondescript guy. They get everybody off this plane.
Nobody knows what's happening, except the pilots. They talk him
through jumping out of this like or like opening this
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stairlift that's on this specific type of plane, and he
jumps out parachutes. Whether he lives or he dies, we
don't know. We have not like they have some bills
that they think are his. That's the only true evidence
that they have found about this guy, right, And I
was thinking this could be like that where here we
are fifty years later, many people think DV. Cooper is
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like some sort of cult hero for perpetrating what was
not a victimless crime. It was a crime that affected
several people and really put a spotlight on the last
of security in the seventies over American airline companies and
their planes. Now, obviously it took us even more time
another thirty years after nine to eleven to really hunkered
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down on that. But I was wondering if this would
be a thing where the general public kind of celebrated
what this person did and maybe would spark some change
in the way that we talk about healthcare while also
committing a heinous crime that people apparently just do not
care that this guy got killed. Jim's on our phone
line at four h two, five, five, eight, eleven ten.
(14:32):
Wants to talk about that reaction. Jim, what do you
think about this?
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Hey, guys, a lot of people feel that way. Nobody
wants to condone murder, but the difficulties that insurance companies
present to their customers, you know, he I think a
lot of people can identify with possibly the way that
shooter felt, you know, the defend to deny the delay
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that he wrote on supposedly wrote on the bullets. A
lot of people have been through that ourselves. Included were
details where they say, yeah, you're covered, but then they
have a myriad of details that end up make being
not covered. So many people have been through that. There's
a lot of frustration. That's why people feel that way.
(15:17):
I hope the insurance companies will understand that you can't
really screw around with some people.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, and Jim, do you think that this is an
event that will spark at least some change in the
way that we talk about healthcare. I know that it's
not the kind of circumstance you would hope this conversation
comes about. But seeing the public reaction kind of more
so celebrating or at least being indifferent about this person's
murderous death. Maybe that would get some of our politicians
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to note that, Okay, the American public really thinks that
we have a terrible system for this in our country.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
You know, they've had that opportunity in the past. I
don't think so. My gut feeling is that the politicians
will stay away from it, and especially with the incoming administration,
and let business do business how they want as long
as it's not extremely a serious type of thing. But
now I don't think anything's going to change. I would
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hope the insurance companies realize that maybe we ought to
be a little bit better to our customers. I don't
see that happening.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well, that's the one thing.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
The almighty dollar speaks louder than anything else that you
could possibly think of, including the death of a CEO.
I guess time is going to tell Jim. I appreciate
your thoughts on this today. Thanks for calling us.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
You're welcome. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Guys, what do you think, as long as the money's
rolling in, why would they change what they're doing. They
don't care about us. It's been pretty clear. It's been
made clear over the years that the customer isn't what
the insurance companies really care about. And you talk about
people in the different kinds of care that they receive
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based on the insurance companies. It's weird because certain companies
only have contracts with specific healthcare providers. And you hear
about United Healthcare being so much more willing to deny patients.
It makes you feel like, what's broken in that system?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, I think the whole premise of insurance is weird,
especially whenever they can just pull it from you, whenever
it doesn't work for them.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Anymore exactly, and they can determine exactly what they will
and will not cover on a case to case basis.
If you want to call in and be a part
of this conversation, we'll explore are not just our feelings
for this, but we're also going to explore kind of
what the landscape change could end up. Especially if this
Luigi Mangioni guy is indeed the suspect who committed the crime,
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maybe we can get some answer this to what exactly
he was hoping to accomplish and what that might mean
to why this exactly happened the way that it did.
Two twenty eight, call us at four h two five five,
eight eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Emery's songer share with and when you on news radio
eleven ten Kfab.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
He had about four or so thousand followers. I think
just a couple hours ago, he's up to eighty seven thousand,
So people are following this account. And it's not that
he's going to be posting regularly because he hasn't really
posted at all. It's it's really just him reposting other things,
and the most recent of those was in June, so
it's not been recent at all, but it may give
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you an insight when you kind of scroll back through
maybe some of the things that he was into. And
a lot of people are doing that sleuthing right now.
I'll show some sleuthing of what I've I've seen be
shared over the last couple of hours. But we're also
keeping the phones open. At four two five five eight
eleven ten, we have Doug on the line as we
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talk kind of about the culture in why people are
kind of celebrating this murderous act while also at the
same time trying to figure out how it fits in
our society. Doug, thanks for calling in. What do you
think well?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
First, thank you very much taking my call, Emory. Seconds,
I do think what happened is terrible. You can't have
people going around shooting people on the street. That's just
not right. That instead, though, I have some real questions
about why in the world the FBI is offering fifty
grands as a reward for the arrest and conviction of
this guy, Because really, if you and I were a
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tourist in New York and we got shot in the
street and summer conditions, they wouldn't offer fifty grand for us.
I understand why New York City is offering ten thousands,
because it is kind of pr for them. But the FBI,
there's supposed to be biased and attached. Why are they
giving money for some fortunate five hundred executive gets shot?
Just a question?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, I mean I wouldn't even begin to know what
would create that, Doug, but I will say that it
is a pretty bad mark on anyone for this guy
in daylight. I mean it was early morning, but it
was daylight in Manhattan, and he was onmultiple surveillance cameras
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in multiple places, and they let him through their fingers,
And I mean, I don't know who phoned this in
This is sloppy work by him to only be less
than three hundred miles away at a McDonald's five days
later with the weapons still on him. But I mean,
there is a great chance that they all would have
looked really stupid if he would have gotten away forever.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, this guy is not the most competent assass And
you ever have seen the fact that the things he
did right in preparation were not very good, and then
he let him still get captured on the cameras and
then got all kinds of DNA and fingerprints and that
you know, obviously in the showcases they couldn't do anything,
but that the point is still have a lot of clues.
So if the d N and fingerts matched, she's done.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Well, and here's the other thing, thug, I'm not so
sure he didn't want to get caught. Him carrying around
that manifesto makes me feel like he was waiting for
that to happen and would be yeah, and I guess
we're going to hear why, because you would think it
seemed like he done everything to not get caught here
until the end when he got caught in a McDonald's
in Altoona, Pennsylvania is unreal. Thanks Doug for the call.
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Appreciate you listening to us. All right, what's some fun
facts about Luigi Manngioni. Some of the likes that he
has on x are quotes from Ted Kaczinski, the unibomber.
One of the manifestos are lines on the manifesto said,
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these parasites had it coming. Well, that's certainly going to
get you charged for murder. He was an IVY League guy,
Penn m Old Kazinski. Didn't you go to Berkeley? He's
a cal Berkeley guy.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah? Interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Four fake id's with names used throughout. He was carrying
all four. Wow, he was carrying all four. This guy
was trying to get caught. I really do think he was.
He was waiting on them to catch him. Four fake id's,
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a US passport, the manifesto, and he had the guns
on it. He had the silencer on it or the
ghost gun. They say it was printed on a three
D printer in a likelihood. We'll learn more about that
as well. Apparently the manifesto said this suspect acted alone,
So there goes the theory of maybe he's part of
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a larger network of this it's an American guy with
an incredibly Italian name. But to make no mistake, he
was born and raised in Maryland, went to Gilman All
Boys School in Baltimore, was an athlete, played soccer. The
high school tuition at this school forty thousand dollars a year,
he had said, And the New York Post did a
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lot of this ricon shoved it all together, so kudos
to them. But he was going to seek a degree
in AI and would focus on areas of computer science
and cognitive science.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
At Penn.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
He did an interview for the Baltimore Fish Bowl where
this was lifted from.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So he graduated in twenty twenty with his Bachelor of
Science and Engineering Computer and Information Science. He also completed
a Master of Science and Engineering Computer and Information Science
at Penn as well, and his LinkedIn profile says he's
a data engineer at a car company based in California,
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even though it says that he is operating out of Honolulu.
That could just be a lie. You can say you
are living anywhere on social media. Hoy yikes. Also, he
appeared in an article in a student publication at Penn
that praised him for starting up a student run video
game development club. So there you go, a lot of
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people apparently know this guy. Four h two five five
eleven ten is the phone number. George is on our
phone line. Welcome to the show, George, would it say
you afternoon?
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Brother? Hey, I've got a question here, specifically dealing with
the manifesto. It seems like the government only releases manifestos
when they want to, and it depends on what the
crime was. Because we still don't have the manifesto from
the transgender girl that went to the Catholic school and
gun the kids down there, I'm still sealed. It makes
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me wonder, you know, why is the certain manifestos are
not released. And I do not understand this, But I
guarantee if it was a white Nazi KKKA member, that
thing would have been on the front page of the
Washington Post in the morning.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, and that's you know, that's a fair point, Georgie.
And obviously it just kind of depends on what the
manifesto says. Now they haven't released the whole thing yet.
It's just that law enforcement say that they get from
this that he acted alone. This was a hymn thing.
But one thing I hadn't mentioned yet, is that he
had two elderly family members where they say the manifesto
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kind of suggests that he greatly disapproved of the way
that they were treated at their end of life because
of their denial for certain healthcare opportunities, and they both
passed away within the last decade or so, so that
seems to be kind of where the genesis of the
motivation for this was. And then also they mentioned the
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Unibomber quotes, which certainly that's a bit disconcerting.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
If there's a manifesto and you tell us there's one,
you better tell us what's on it, because why else
would it matter? Absolutely, Brother, appreciate it, George, thanks for
listening to us.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Bye, guys.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It's still nothing here.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Tells me that there's anything worth going and killing a
person for? Never And what the heck you go through
all the trouble to do all of this. You cover
your face. He's doing it. He's doing it, and he
knows where he's at. He knows where Brian Thompson's at.
He knows where to get him, when to get him.
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He prints a three D printer ghost gun that can
fire a nine millimeter bullet. He prepares the letters like
the the bullets with these words denied, delay and whatever.
The other one is to depose, to pose, and uh.
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He gets away on an electric bike, gets an essential park.
Nobody sees him. Five days later. He's carrying four fake
IDs with different aliases on him, on his person. He's
got the gun still, he's got the silencer on him.
He's got this manifesto on him. You got you can't
tell me? This guy had Like the whole point was
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he was going to be caught den I defend to pose.
Sorry my bad, No problem, there you go. That's crazy
to me. And Nick emails in an anti capitalist guy,
anti corporate guy had gone and was found in a
Mcdonaldy with an active Amazon account and on Twitter and
also people are saying that they're trying to match DNA
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from a Starbucks cup that he had in the car
or whatever. Starbucks and McDonald's two of the least capitalist
things that I can think of?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Am I right? Ladies and gentlemen, what are you talking about?
Me to McDonald's too much? They might raise your eights?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Look out E two forty eight More on the way
on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Emery Sunger on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
While Adam McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, less than three hundred
miles away from the scene of the crime. Well, we're
taking your calls and your thoughts on all this today
four oh two five five, eight eleven ten. Four oh
two five five, eight eleven ten, and we got Kevin
on the line.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Welcome Kevin. What's on your mind?
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. And right I follow
you guys a lot. I've never want to do Mitros
on air, but I will today. It's I'm done time
in Iowa and Nebraska. I was in Fort Madison. I
always say pent attention in the eighties. I fell next
to the most heinous murderer I was ever seen. I
know people that have committed these crimes. I have never
in my life met one of them that carried around
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a written confession with him after he committed the murder.
Never I'm just not buying that they have all of
this evidence wrapped up in a nice, pretty little package
with a bow on top. The convict this guy in Pennsylvania.
When it was pretty obvious to my eyes when I
watched the video that this was a professional hit. The
guy ejected around and caught it and looked at it,
then dropped it on the ground, hammered the receiver to
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launch the next cell into there, walked over and tapped
the guy again in a confirmed kill. I'm sorry, that's
what I saw with my eyes on the video the
day it was posted.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, and on top of that, Kevin, for five days
a successful getaway, was seeming very careful about who had
seen him, even though he did slip up a little
bit with the smile, with that, with the hustle, we know.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
We know the first forty eight hours are the most important.
If they don't catch a murderer in the first forty
eight chances are they don't catch him. That is just
a historical fact of the murder spray. It takes place
in this country, right I don't buy, especially especially with
the low approval rating that law enforcement has in this
country right now, especially federal level law enforcement. Pretty Much
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everybody I know thinks we should get rid of the FBI,
the CIA, the IRS, and about four hundred other government agencies.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, and this is this is going to be one
of those things, Kevin, that the manifesto, we're going to
really need to dig in on this and the fact
that this guy is still a lot. We're going to
see him, We're going to get to hear from him
at some point in the court of law, you would
imagine through a lawyer or something. Maybe we'll get a
little bit more clarity. But based on everything that we're
seeing here, it was just a twenty six year old guy.
We're led to believe that did all of this on
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his own.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
So I don't know exactly we're led to believe. I
like that you added that to that.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Thank you, Hey, no prouble, I'm wrong.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Maybe I really did commit the time, and if he did,
he deserves to have this happened to him.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Sure, But it's worth asking the questions.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
It is. It's absolutely worth asking. And for too long,
we the people have not asked enough questions of our
elected officials. That's got a change. Absolutely, you guys are
leading the charge on this thing, and I love what
you're doing. That's why I call you all the time.
And I appreciate you taking my call and put me
on the air.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Absolutely, buddy, I love it, hey, and I love that
you call Kevin call us again sometime.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Really appreciate your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
You bet, thank you either.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
All right, we'll take more calls if you want to
call in four h two five to five, eight eleven ten.
Four h two five five eight to eleven ten. It's
not worth like it's totally appropriate to ask the questions.
We were talking about this. I agree with him. The
video looks like a professional hit, and the getaway looks
like a professional hit, and the way he disguised himself
looked like a professional hit, like a person who had
done something like this before. That's why I asked those questions.
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Now you're telling me it's just an Ivy League guy
that had nothing better to do than to try to
take out the CEO of United Healthcare.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Got real sloppy all of a sudden, with every.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
They needed to get him, the four fake IDs, the manifesto,
the gun, the silencer, all of it was right there.
That's pretty weird. Did he think he could cash in
on that reward money or something by turning himself in?
It's worth asking the questions. We'll take more of your
calls at four h two five five eight eleven ten.
Next on news radio eleven ten KFAB
I was unclear or unsure that we were going to
get an actual verdict. Not a verdict, that's the wrong word.
That's the other story. I want to talk about, an
actual arrest. I didn't know if we were going to
catch this guy because my thought was that this was
going to be a person, the guy that killed Brian Thompson,
Iowa native who's the CEO of United Healthcare last Wednesday.
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My feeling was that this was going to be a guy,
that he was professional, It was done in a way
that he was going to be able to escape the
fact that they hadn't seen him for four full days
made me feel like he's out of the country. And
I'm not saying that I was like personally upset about this,
because of course I wasn't, you know. I think if
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you commit a crime like murder, for whatever your reasoning,
you should be caught and you should be prosecuted to
the fullest extent of the law and let a judge
and a jury decide whether or not you actually deserve
to serve time. Well, turns out that this guy was
not as professional as I was thinking that he was.
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Twenty six year old Luigi Mangione not to get miss
mistaken with Chuck Mangione.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh what a poll that was? It was a poll.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Now I'm searching for dron No no, no, no, feel
so good? No, no so good, because it's gonna it's
gonna mess with our pod. I''m glad I didn't tell
you ahead of time. But yeah, not no relation as
far as we know to the legendary Chuck man Joni.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I think we could play like two seconds and then
we can get away with it with the copyright laws.
I just want to give people a little bit of
man Jon, you know, just a little bit of just
a lit up better Chucky, just a little.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Bit of man Jon. You're lucky. I put up with this.
It's Monday. Go ahead, what the people deserve. Oh, I
gotta find it.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, okay, don't find it all right? Window window god
Uh Chuck Chuck Manngoni. Not, as far as we know,
related to Luigi Manngoni McDonald's in Pennsylvania. Yeah, he was
out of McDonald's in Pennsylvania. This guy who who perpetrated
a high profile murder. We don't know why yet. We
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don't know if it was him or he was hired
by somebody else to do this. He was found at
a McDonald's in Pennsylvania. He was in Pennsylvania, a border
state to New York. He was in Altoona, Pennsylvania, not
all that far away from where all this stuff was
going on.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
No, I guess after the electric bike ran out of juice,
he traveled by horse.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Pennsylvania. McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Come on, man, this is not supposed to be how
this ends. And I'm not trying to like glamorize what's
going on here, but McDonald's in Pennsylvania. Now, I'd like
to know how they knew it was him. We were
talking about this before we went on the air. You
don't have a lot to go off of. Oh, not
at all. I mean, they released some new photos earlier
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today of this guy in a cab, But he was
in a cab with a mask, like a like a
face mask, you know, one of those things that we
had to wear a bunch during COVID. Yeah, it wasn't
like a scarf. I thought it was a scarf initially,
but it was just like a mask. Again, you have
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what the eyes and maybe like the bridge of the
nose that you can kind of see.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think a couple of those pictures where you got
the most of the full face.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, but like the one of him smiling and flirting
is like the best one, and I would be like Stamos,
he looks like John Stamos.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's as far as I would know.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
How much do you have to be able to recognize
somebody and what would they have to have on them
for you to be like, oh, yeah, this is the
person that the news is looking for.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The other disappointing part is for an alleged professional, he
had the weapon, he was still carrying the weapon.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't even know. Yeah, this is not a professional.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
This is the opposite the fact that what does it
say that it took us five days to find this guy.
This guy doesn't know anything. They think potentially based on
what we have heard over the last few hours and again,
this only happened, you know, like ten thirty our time
is when we got the note that there was somebody
in custody in Pennsylvania in connection to this. They believed
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three D printer. Three D printer. Oh really, that's what
they are saying. They may have the gun may have
been made on a three D printer.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
A dangerous new world.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What do you do right, like everybody who's crying out, like,
oh guns, gun safety, gun licensing, three D printer got
access to a really good three D printer.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They also said this, The NYPD returned to Central Park
today to search for evidence, including its dive cruise. What
is there water to dive in at Central Park? Or
is dive cruise? Does that mean something else? Like they
will deep dive into the woods find more information.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I watched I watched elfa over the weekend. A big
part of the climax of that movie is in Central Park. Yeah,
makes you just wonders, like the guy got lost in there,
whoever it was, That's all I was thinking about.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Do you think you were thinking about?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I was like, I was like, no, wonder Santa was
able to get away with this. In elf they can't
find a guy who literally murdered a person in the
middle of the day or in the middle of the morning,
in front of people in New York City as soon
as he entered Central Park. It's just like people forgot
how to look for him. He found a little underground
pipe to just go down into. You know that that
(05:44):
that that that Yeah, No, his name's Luigi All right.
We can only have so much fun with this.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
He's just down there collecting coins pops up in a Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
This is not not supposed to be. No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
They're gonna compare DNA swabs by the way from the
suspect here. We are hopeful to get more information sometime
this afternoon. We don't know what the timeline is on
this stuff. We will give you more information on this.
We'll open the phone lines too. If you've got thoughts
on this, you got thoughts on the crime, you got
thoughts on what I mean, the very seemingly anticlimactic into
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the to the manhunt. Here McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Then
we have phone lines are open four oh two five
five eight eleven ten. Four oh two, five five eight
to eleven ten. This is a Luig g.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Potentially here on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Emrie Sunger on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
He has ties to San Francisco. His last known address Honolulu, Huay.
Now apparently they also found on top of this.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
This isn't just. This isn't just.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And of course, if you're just joining us, Louis Mangioni
a twenty six year old found in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
He had a weapon that was very similar to the
one that was used in the gut and in the
killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last Wednesday in
New York. And he also apparently had a piece of
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paper on him. And well, let's just say this, he
was found out and it appears as though he is
the guy. Everything is pointing to this being the guy.
They have to get a little bit more evidence, like DNA,
maybe find a way to match up some of the
stuff that maybe they were able to locate through the surveillance,
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if he's got the same clothing, things of that nature.
But it sounds by all accounts that this is legitimately
that person.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Also, there was a like I mentioned the manifesto, but
he said, we don't think that there's This is the
people that are in charge of the NYPD talking.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
About this, and.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
This is Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenney, says he has
no prior arrest history in the state of New York
and said we don't think there's any specific threats to
other people mentioned in the document, but it does seem
that he has some ill will toward corporate America.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Show w don't we all, but we don't all resort
to that.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Well, this is what I was saying, is like, is
it a hit, because that could create a completely different problem. Right,
this is a person that was acting alone. Well, this
goes to all the other people who have done terrible
things while acting alone. Well, the person is detained, the
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problem is solved, right kind of right, Like, this isn't
like a piece of a greater movement. This is one
crazy guy who just decided he was going to, you know,
inflict whatever he believed was vigilante justice on a system
that he doesn't agree with. This isn't if it was
like a hit, an ordered hit, which again.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Maybe it is, Maybe it isn't. We still don't know
for sure, But it sounds like the document is a
hymn thing and not a bigger organization thing that he
was like assigned to take out Brian Thompson of all people.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, that's the best conclusion for certain I suppose certain people.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I suppose they said he said he was in possession
of what they're calling a ghost gun, had the capability
of firing a nine millimeter round and a suppressor a
McDonald's now Tuna, Pennsylvania. So when they make the documentary
about this, how are they going to make the like,
(09:48):
what was he doing in the five days?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Since?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Was he waiting to get caught? Was that the whole point?
Because why else would he have this stuff? Why else
would he have the gun? Why would he have this
document on him that they are calling a manifesto.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Okay, So that right there makes you wonder if he
was waiting for this moment.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
They manifesto contained writings apparently critical of the health insurance
industry specifically. Now again I wonder why Brian Thompson was
the main target here, because how much power does a
CEO have of a publicly traded healthcare insurance company that
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certainly has a ton of people involved in it. Then
this is the other thing I was thinking about this too.
There's so many people out there that just do not
care that this guy got killed. They're like, well, I
guess I think I care about as much as him
dying as they seem to care about the person my
aunt or my mother or my father or whatever, where
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we had been denied care because of a pre existing
condition or something like that, right, It kind of and
you kind of made this you drew this line last week.
I don't know if we talked about it on the air,
but there's like a Robinhood quality to somebody from a
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public perception perspective.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Well, I was just looking at the picture that they
have of him, and he's wearing the literal hood, you know, hood,
and I just thought, how long until people are going
to make the Robin Hood comparison.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Because that they're saying that, Right, It's like, this is
a guy taking down a person who's making seventy six
thousand dollars a day running the healthcare insurance company that
denies more people than any other in America. Almost a
third of people who try to put in claims to
United Healthcare get denied. Who likes insurance companies?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
No one?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
This is I mean, this would be a crime where he,
probably in a public favor, is going to be considered
somewhat of a cult hero. And this is why I
was trying to draw the thing to dB Cooper. Everybody
knows dbe Cooper, right, the guy who in the early
seventies hijacked a plane, a regional flight from Seattle to Portland. Basically,
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he was a hijacker in a very loose term. You
could literally just walk up by. I think he paid
like twenty dollars to get on that flight and then
sat down handed the stewardess and note this says I
have a bomb. She sits down next to him, and
she basically is the run through to negotiate all of
this stuff with this guy who certainly dB Cooper was
(12:45):
not his or Dan Cooper or whatever anybody says that
wasn't his real name. He perpetrates this crime, gets two
hundred thousand dollars in unmarked bills delivered on bags along
with parachutes to this plane, and then and tells the plane,
I will blow the whole thing up if you don't
fly from Portland or wherever he was picked up. And
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then he was flying over Nevada with this two hundred
thousand dollars. He gets instructions from the pilots. He's in
the back talking on the thing while there's nobody else
on this plane. Like everybody else on this plane leaves.
This is a nondescript guy. They get everybody off this plane.
Nobody knows what's happening, except the pilots. They talk him
through jumping out of this like or like opening this
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stairlift that's on this specific type of plane, and he
jumps out parachutes. Whether he lives or he dies, we
don't know. We have not like they have some bills
that they think are his. That's the only true evidence
that they have found about this guy, right, And I
was thinking this could be like that where here we
are fifty years later, many people think DV. Cooper is
(13:49):
like some sort of cult hero for perpetrating what was
not a victimless crime. It was a crime that affected
several people and really put a spotlight on the last
of security in the seventies over American airline companies and
their planes. Now, obviously it took us even more time
another thirty years after nine to eleven to really hunkered
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down on that. But I was wondering if this would
be a thing where the general public kind of celebrated
what this person did and maybe would spark some change
in the way that we talk about healthcare while also
committing a heinous crime that people apparently just do not
care that this guy got killed. Jim's on our phone
line at four h two, five, five, eight, eleven ten.
(14:32):
Wants to talk about that reaction. Jim, what do you
think about this?
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Hey, guys, a lot of people feel that way. Nobody
wants to condone murder, but the difficulties that insurance companies
present to their customers, you know, he I think a
lot of people can identify with possibly the way that
shooter felt, you know, the defend to deny the delay
(14:56):
that he wrote on supposedly wrote on the bullets. A
lot of people have been through that ourselves. Included were
details where they say, yeah, you're covered, but then they
have a myriad of details that end up make being
not covered. So many people have been through that. There's
a lot of frustration. That's why people feel that way.
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I hope the insurance companies will understand that you can't
really screw around with some people.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, and Jim, do you think that this is an
event that will spark at least some change in the
way that we talk about healthcare. I know that it's
not the kind of circumstance you would hope this conversation
comes about. But seeing the public reaction kind of more
so celebrating or at least being indifferent about this person's
murderous death. Maybe that would get some of our politicians
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to note that, Okay, the American public really thinks that
we have a terrible system for this in our country.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
You know, they've had that opportunity in the past. I
don't think so. My gut feeling is that the politicians
will stay away from it, and especially with the incoming administration,
and let business do business how they want as long
as it's not extremely a serious type of thing. But
now I don't think anything's going to change. I would
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hope the insurance companies realize that maybe we ought to
be a little bit better to our customers. I don't
see that happening.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well, that's the one thing.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
The almighty dollar speaks louder than anything else that you
could possibly think of, including the death of a CEO.
I guess time is going to tell Jim. I appreciate
your thoughts on this today. Thanks for calling us.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
You're welcome. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Guys, what do you think, as long as the money's
rolling in, why would they change what they're doing. They
don't care about us. It's been pretty clear. It's been
made clear over the years that the customer isn't what
the insurance companies really care about. And you talk about
people in the different kinds of care that they receive
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based on the insurance companies. It's weird because certain companies
only have contracts with specific healthcare providers. And you hear
about United Healthcare being so much more willing to deny patients.
It makes you feel like, what's broken in that system?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, I think the whole premise of insurance is weird,
especially whenever they can just pull it from you, whenever
it doesn't work for them.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Anymore exactly, and they can determine exactly what they will
and will not cover on a case to case basis.
If you want to call in and be a part
of this conversation, we'll explore are not just our feelings
for this, but we're also going to explore kind of
what the landscape change could end up. Especially if this
Luigi Mangioni guy is indeed the suspect who committed the crime,
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maybe we can get some answer this to what exactly
he was hoping to accomplish and what that might mean
to why this exactly happened the way that it did.
Two twenty eight, call us at four h two five five,
eight eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten kfab.
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eleven ten Kfab.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
He had about four or so thousand followers. I think
just a couple hours ago, he's up to eighty seven thousand,
So people are following this account. And it's not that
he's going to be posting regularly because he hasn't really
posted at all. It's it's really just him reposting other things,
and the most recent of those was in June, so
it's not been recent at all, but it may give
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you an insight when you kind of scroll back through
maybe some of the things that he was into. And
a lot of people are doing that sleuthing right now.
I'll show some sleuthing of what I've I've seen be
shared over the last couple of hours. But we're also
keeping the phones open. At four two five five eight
eleven ten, we have Doug on the line as we
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talk kind of about the culture in why people are
kind of celebrating this murderous act while also at the
same time trying to figure out how it fits in
our society. Doug, thanks for calling in. What do you
think well?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
First, thank you very much taking my call, Emory. Seconds,
I do think what happened is terrible. You can't have
people going around shooting people on the street. That's just
not right. That instead, though, I have some real questions
about why in the world the FBI is offering fifty
grands as a reward for the arrest and conviction of
this guy, Because really, if you and I were a
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tourist in New York and we got shot in the
street and summer conditions, they wouldn't offer fifty grand for us.
I understand why New York City is offering ten thousands,
because it is kind of pr for them. But the FBI,
there's supposed to be biased and attached. Why are they
giving money for some fortunate five hundred executive gets shot?
Just a question?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, I mean I wouldn't even begin to know what
would create that, Doug, but I will say that it
is a pretty bad mark on anyone for this guy
in daylight. I mean it was early morning, but it
was daylight in Manhattan, and he was onmultiple surveillance cameras
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in multiple places, and they let him through their fingers,
And I mean, I don't know who phoned this in
This is sloppy work by him to only be less
than three hundred miles away at a McDonald's five days
later with the weapons still on him. But I mean,
there is a great chance that they all would have
looked really stupid if he would have gotten away forever.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, this guy is not the most competent assass And
you ever have seen the fact that the things he
did right in preparation were not very good, and then
he let him still get captured on the cameras and
then got all kinds of DNA and fingerprints and that
you know, obviously in the showcases they couldn't do anything,
but that the point is still have a lot of clues.
So if the d N and fingerts matched, she's done.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Well, and here's the other thing, thug, I'm not so
sure he didn't want to get caught. Him carrying around
that manifesto makes me feel like he was waiting for
that to happen and would be yeah, and I guess
we're going to hear why, because you would think it
seemed like he done everything to not get caught here
until the end when he got caught in a McDonald's
in Altoona, Pennsylvania is unreal. Thanks Doug for the call.
(21:08):
Appreciate you listening to us. All right, what's some fun
facts about Luigi Manngioni. Some of the likes that he
has on x are quotes from Ted Kaczinski, the unibomber.
One of the manifestos are lines on the manifesto said,
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these parasites had it coming. Well, that's certainly going to
get you charged for murder. He was an IVY League guy,
Penn m Old Kazinski. Didn't you go to Berkeley? He's
a cal Berkeley guy.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah? Interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Four fake id's with names used throughout. He was carrying
all four. Wow, he was carrying all four. This guy
was trying to get caught. I really do think he was.
He was waiting on them to catch him. Four fake id's,
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a US passport, the manifesto, and he had the guns
on it. He had the silencer on it or the
ghost gun. They say it was printed on a three
D printer in a likelihood. We'll learn more about that
as well. Apparently the manifesto said this suspect acted alone,
So there goes the theory of maybe he's part of
(22:32):
a larger network of this it's an American guy with
an incredibly Italian name. But to make no mistake, he
was born and raised in Maryland, went to Gilman All
Boys School in Baltimore, was an athlete, played soccer. The
high school tuition at this school forty thousand dollars a year,
he had said, And the New York Post did a
(22:54):
lot of this ricon shoved it all together, so kudos
to them. But he was going to seek a degree
in AI and would focus on areas of computer science
and cognitive science.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
At Penn.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
He did an interview for the Baltimore Fish Bowl where
this was lifted from.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So he graduated in twenty twenty with his Bachelor of
Science and Engineering Computer and Information Science. He also completed
a Master of Science and Engineering Computer and Information Science
at Penn as well, and his LinkedIn profile says he's
a data engineer at a car company based in California,
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even though it says that he is operating out of Honolulu.
That could just be a lie. You can say you
are living anywhere on social media. Hoy yikes. Also, he
appeared in an article in a student publication at Penn
that praised him for starting up a student run video
game development club. So there you go, a lot of
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people apparently know this guy. Four h two five five
eleven ten is the phone number. George is on our
phone line. Welcome to the show, George, would it say
you afternoon?
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Brother? Hey, I've got a question here, specifically dealing with
the manifesto. It seems like the government only releases manifestos
when they want to, and it depends on what the
crime was. Because we still don't have the manifesto from
the transgender girl that went to the Catholic school and
gun the kids down there, I'm still sealed. It makes
(24:28):
me wonder, you know, why is the certain manifestos are
not released. And I do not understand this, But I
guarantee if it was a white Nazi KKKA member, that
thing would have been on the front page of the
Washington Post in the morning.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, and that's you know, that's a fair point, Georgie.
And obviously it just kind of depends on what the
manifesto says. Now they haven't released the whole thing yet.
It's just that law enforcement say that they get from
this that he acted alone. This was a hymn thing.
But one thing I hadn't mentioned yet, is that he
had two elderly family members where they say the manifesto
(25:02):
kind of suggests that he greatly disapproved of the way
that they were treated at their end of life because
of their denial for certain healthcare opportunities, and they both
passed away within the last decade or so, so that
seems to be kind of where the genesis of the
motivation for this was. And then also they mentioned the
(25:25):
Unibomber quotes, which certainly that's a bit disconcerting.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
If there's a manifesto and you tell us there's one,
you better tell us what's on it, because why else
would it matter? Absolutely, Brother, appreciate it, George, thanks for
listening to us.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Bye, guys.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It's still nothing here.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Tells me that there's anything worth going and killing a
person for? Never And what the heck you go through
all the trouble to do all of this. You cover
your face. He's doing it. He's doing it, and he
knows where he's at. He knows where Brian Thompson's at.
He knows where to get him, when to get him.
(26:02):
He prints a three D printer ghost gun that can
fire a nine millimeter bullet. He prepares the letters like
the the bullets with these words denied, delay and whatever.
The other one is to depose, to pose, and uh.
(26:22):
He gets away on an electric bike, gets an essential park.
Nobody sees him. Five days later. He's carrying four fake
IDs with different aliases on him, on his person. He's
got the gun still, he's got the silencer on him.
He's got this manifesto on him. You got you can't
tell me? This guy had Like the whole point was
(26:42):
he was going to be caught den I defend to pose.
Sorry my bad, No problem, there you go. That's crazy
to me. And Nick emails in an anti capitalist guy,
anti corporate guy had gone and was found in a
Mcdonaldy with an active Amazon account and on Twitter and
also people are saying that they're trying to match DNA
(27:05):
from a Starbucks cup that he had in the car
or whatever. Starbucks and McDonald's two of the least capitalist
things that I can think of?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Am I right? Ladies and gentlemen, what are you talking about?
Me to McDonald's too much? They might raise your eights?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Look out E two forty eight More on the way
on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Emery Sunger on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
While Adam McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, less than three hundred
miles away from the scene of the crime. Well, we're
taking your calls and your thoughts on all this today
four oh two five five, eight eleven ten. Four oh
two five five, eight eleven ten, and we got Kevin
on the line.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Welcome Kevin. What's on your mind?
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. And right I follow
you guys a lot. I've never want to do Mitros
on air, but I will today. It's I'm done time
in Iowa and Nebraska. I was in Fort Madison. I
always say pent attention in the eighties. I fell next
to the most heinous murderer I was ever seen. I
know people that have committed these crimes. I have never
in my life met one of them that carried around
(28:13):
a written confession with him after he committed the murder.
Never I'm just not buying that they have all of
this evidence wrapped up in a nice, pretty little package
with a bow on top. The convict this guy in Pennsylvania.
When it was pretty obvious to my eyes when I
watched the video that this was a professional hit. The
guy ejected around and caught it and looked at it,
then dropped it on the ground, hammered the receiver to
(28:35):
launch the next cell into there, walked over and tapped
the guy again in a confirmed kill. I'm sorry, that's
what I saw with my eyes on the video the
day it was posted.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, and on top of that, Kevin, for five days
a successful getaway, was seeming very careful about who had
seen him, even though he did slip up a little
bit with the smile, with that, with the hustle, we know.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
We know the first forty eight hours are the most important.
If they don't catch a murderer in the first forty
eight chances are they don't catch him. That is just
a historical fact of the murder spray. It takes place
in this country, right I don't buy, especially especially with
the low approval rating that law enforcement has in this
country right now, especially federal level law enforcement. Pretty Much
(29:21):
everybody I know thinks we should get rid of the FBI,
the CIA, the IRS, and about four hundred other government agencies.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, and this is this is going to be one
of those things, Kevin, that the manifesto, we're going to
really need to dig in on this and the fact
that this guy is still a lot. We're going to
see him, We're going to get to hear from him
at some point in the court of law, you would
imagine through a lawyer or something. Maybe we'll get a
little bit more clarity. But based on everything that we're
seeing here, it was just a twenty six year old guy.
We're led to believe that did all of this on
(29:49):
his own.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
So I don't know exactly we're led to believe. I
like that you added that to that.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Thank you, Hey, no prouble, I'm wrong.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Maybe I really did commit the time, and if he did,
he deserves to have this happened to him.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Sure, But it's worth asking the questions.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
It is. It's absolutely worth asking. And for too long,
we the people have not asked enough questions of our
elected officials. That's got a change. Absolutely, you guys are
leading the charge on this thing, and I love what
you're doing. That's why I call you all the time.
And I appreciate you taking my call and put me
on the air.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Absolutely, buddy, I love it, hey, and I love that
you call Kevin call us again sometime.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Really appreciate your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
You bet, thank you either.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
All right, we'll take more calls if you want to
call in four h two five to five, eight eleven ten.
Four h two five five eight to eleven ten. It's
not worth like it's totally appropriate to ask the questions.
We were talking about this. I agree with him. The
video looks like a professional hit, and the getaway looks
like a professional hit, and the way he disguised himself
looked like a professional hit, like a person who had
done something like this before. That's why I asked those questions.
(30:51):
Now you're telling me it's just an Ivy League guy
that had nothing better to do than to try to
take out the CEO of United Healthcare.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Got real sloppy all of a sudden, with every.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
They needed to get him, the four fake IDs, the manifesto,
the gun, the silencer, all of it was right there.
That's pretty weird. Did he think he could cash in
on that reward money or something by turning himself in?
It's worth asking the questions. We'll take more of your
calls at four h two five five eight eleven ten.
Next on news radio eleven ten KFAB
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