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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Memory, How are you not too bad?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You know, I was on a little excursion, a little trip,
you know, all scroll social media just while I got
something else going on, and yeah, well, you know, this
was something that was kind of rumored a few weeks
ago that the United States would have something to do
with what is happening in Venezuela, and then the capture
of Nicholas Maduro becomes you know, international news. Obviously, can
(00:27):
you kind of walk me through what generally the people
who are in Washington, DC are feeling about this right now?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I think it's a little bit of a wow, I
can't believe this happened type of type of feeling. I mean,
it definitely was a.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You know, a.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Shock, especially when you talk about all the leaks that
happened so often here in DC. For this one to
fly under the radar the way it did and ultimately
to Maduro's arrest and on a Saturday, nonetheless, it was
quite rather shocking. But at the same time, it's that
kind of plays into the questions going forward because you have,
(01:05):
you know, you have these people who are asking, well,
why should Congress have been notified? Why wasn't Congress notified?
And the Trudministration has explained that for the most part,
one of the things President Trump did use as his
justification for not notifying Congress was because he was concerned
the would be leaks involved. So there there certainly are
a lot of different ways people are talking about this.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I did see that there was a rumor, I don't
know how accurate this was, but that there was potentially
a leak and people did not want to share the
leak through the media because it could, you know, put
American troops into an unsafe situation if that information would
have been notable or known ahead of time. Is that
(01:48):
something that is going to continue to be a trend
that Donald Trump and the executive branch are going to
keep everything really on the down load just because they're
afraid of who may end up a hold of that information.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I think it depends. I mean, Nicholas Maduro was a
unique case where this is somebody who was not recognized
as a legitimate leader. He had a warrant out for
his arrest going back to twenty twenty. You know, the
United States did not recognize as presidency as legitimate. They
refer to him as a narco terrorist. So I don't
know if there's many other leaders who have that designation
(02:26):
attached to their name, there certainly are people that the
United States wants out of power. But whether or not
there's any other operations the United States might go with,
I don't know, but this one was certainly a unique case.
For the most part.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Ryan Schmills is joining us here today. Okay, Ryan, So
let's talk about the general international part of this. Other
nations in the United States see foreign conflicts like the
Israel thing like Ukraine and Russia, and especially what we're
seeing right now. I'm sure they're seeing it on a
completely different level. But all of the videos, at least
(02:59):
that I seen on social media seem to depict Venezuela
in a much more positive mood after this than it
seems like a lot of other people around the world are.
What's the feeling and the thought from you know, the
Trump administration about not just what they've done here, but
how they have to answer questions about this moving forward,
(03:20):
especially considering Donald Trump said he was going to be
America first in this term.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, there's going to be a briefing today on Capitol
Hill where they will answer questions. Members of trumpministration will
to the Gang of Eight, which is the national security
team of members of Congress that it includes leadership members
and then the top members on the intelligence committing some
other relevant committees as well. That's what they'll answer some
of those questions. Then you also have you know, I mean, well,
(03:48):
you wanted to mention how the world's taken this. While
people in Venezuela are celebrating, I've seen some videos of
people in Miami throwing parties in the streets. But also
I've been speaking to some people who have ties to
our Iran who have said that this is probably the
most confident they've ever felt about the Iran regime being overthrown,
considering the pressure that's being placed on them and seeing
(04:10):
how Maduro was just toppled. So this could embolden some
of the opposition movements in some other countries.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We've talked about the history, I mean, I say we
as social media has really talked about the United States
and regime changing, regime building, nation building in different parts
of the world, and how that ended up not really
working out at least how many people thought it would
when we went to the Middle East twenty some years ago.
(04:38):
Is this a preview of that because this doesn't feel
like it's that complex of an issue. We went to Venezuela,
we captured what we considered to be an illegitimate leader,
a dictator, and there happens to be some natural resources
is a part of this. This doesn't feel like something
where the United States is going to just occupy Venezuela.
(05:00):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I mean it's a wait and see approach. You know,
there they allowed their Maduro's vice president to be sworn in.
They did not replace her with anybody else that was handpicked,
who was the person who was the next in line
to the presidency. There, she's now going to be running
the country. She has said she's going to cooperate with
the Trump administration, though she's criticized the arrest of Maduro.
(05:22):
You know, we are not at war with Venezuela. There's
been no declaration of war from Congress. We were at
war with the countries in the Middle least, like Iraq
and Afghanistan. But I mean, we'll see what ultimately happens next.
I think that's kind of where everyone's what everyone's waiting
to see happens is how the United States governs or
or or is involved with the government in Venezuela and
(05:45):
just how this new new president decides to run the country.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
All right, Schmael's joining us. Last thing for you on this, Ryan,
I mentioned the America first thing. I understand that Donald
Trump really wanted to be known as the war or
under the peacetime president. He ran in his entire campaign
really saying that there were no wars in his first
term and he was going to end all of the
wars in his second term. And the Israel thing is
(06:12):
seemingly winding down. You have the Ukrainian in Russia war
that rages on. Hopefully there's been at least some progress
as we headed a twenty twenty six. But this is
a new thing. This is something that you know, with
the striking of those drug vessels, and now to this
point you have essentially just the extraction of a leader
(06:34):
in flying them into the United States to face trial
and you know, taking them away from a you know,
a sovereign nation, at least from the appearances of this,
How does this get explained by the Trump administration as
something that is indeed America first?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well, he was asked that at the press conference recently,
and I mean, look, he said that this is not
a declaration of war. They're just trying to get Maduro
out of office. They believe that Maduro Is was a
narco terrorist who was you know, not They've had a
warn out for his arrest, so he was supposed to
be arrested, and they felt that they just did kind
(07:11):
of what they've been supposed to do for years at
this point now, which is arrest a narco terrorist who's
been on the United States watch list and had a
bounty out for his arrest for years. But you know,
there are some like Marjorie Taylor Green who are criticizing
this move saying this is not what MAGO or the
America First Movement voted for. So so there might be
(07:32):
some of those questions that President Trump does have to answer.
But you know, I think we would point out that
he did kill a number of terrorists while he was
president the first go around, so it's not like it
was just this thing where he stopped all conflict and
stopped strikes overseas. There are plenty of strikes like the
strikes in Syria. There were multiple terrorists that were murdered
by the trumpdministration are taken out by the Trump administration.
(07:54):
So you know, there's still a you know, there's still
a lot of i mean conflicting information about out you know,
what his presidency was like the first time and what
it still is like.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, that's a really good point. Ryan Schmells has always
great stuff from Fox News Radio. We'll chat again soon. Ryan,
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Thanks Emory, you have to go one
Memory, How are you not too bad?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You know, I was on a little excursion, a little trip,
you know, all scroll social media just while I got
something else going on, and yeah, well, you know, this
was something that was kind of rumored a few weeks
ago that the United States would have something to do
with what is happening in Venezuela, and then the capture
of Nicholas Maduro becomes you know, international news. Obviously, can
(00:27):
you kind of walk me through what generally the people
who are in Washington, DC are feeling about this right now?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I think it's a little bit of a wow, I
can't believe this happened type of type of feeling. I mean,
it definitely was a.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You know, a.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Shock, especially when you talk about all the leaks that
happened so often here in DC. For this one to
fly under the radar the way it did and ultimately
to Maduro's arrest and on a Saturday, nonetheless, it was
quite rather shocking. But at the same time, it's that
kind of plays into the questions going forward because you have,
(01:05):
you know, you have these people who are asking, well,
why should Congress have been notified? Why wasn't Congress notified?
And the Trudministration has explained that for the most part,
one of the things President Trump did use as his
justification for not notifying Congress was because he was concerned
the would be leaks involved. So there there certainly are
a lot of different ways people are talking about this.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I did see that there was a rumor, I don't
know how accurate this was, but that there was potentially
a leak and people did not want to share the
leak through the media because it could, you know, put
American troops into an unsafe situation if that information would
have been notable or known ahead of time. Is that
(01:48):
something that is going to continue to be a trend
that Donald Trump and the executive branch are going to
keep everything really on the down load just because they're
afraid of who may end up a hold of that information.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I think it depends. I mean, Nicholas Maduro was a
unique case where this is somebody who was not recognized
as a legitimate leader. He had a warrant out for
his arrest going back to twenty twenty. You know, the
United States did not recognize as presidency as legitimate. They
refer to him as a narco terrorist. So I don't
know if there's many other leaders who have that designation
(02:26):
attached to their name, there certainly are people that the
United States wants out of power. But whether or not
there's any other operations the United States might go with,
I don't know, but this one was certainly a unique case.
For the most part.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Ryan Schmills is joining us here today. Okay, Ryan, So
let's talk about the general international part of this. Other
nations in the United States see foreign conflicts like the
Israel thing like Ukraine and Russia, and especially what we're
seeing right now. I'm sure they're seeing it on a
completely different level. But all of the videos, at least
(02:59):
that I seen on social media seem to depict Venezuela
in a much more positive mood after this than it
seems like a lot of other people around the world are.
What's the feeling and the thought from you know, the
Trump administration about not just what they've done here, but
how they have to answer questions about this moving forward,
(03:20):
especially considering Donald Trump said he was going to be
America first in this term.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, there's going to be a briefing today on Capitol
Hill where they will answer questions. Members of trumpministration will
to the Gang of Eight, which is the national security
team of members of Congress that it includes leadership members
and then the top members on the intelligence committing some
other relevant committees as well. That's what they'll answer some
of those questions. Then you also have you know, I mean, well,
(03:48):
you wanted to mention how the world's taken this. While
people in Venezuela are celebrating, I've seen some videos of
people in Miami throwing parties in the streets. But also
I've been speaking to some people who have ties to
our Iran who have said that this is probably the
most confident they've ever felt about the Iran regime being overthrown,
considering the pressure that's being placed on them and seeing
(04:10):
how Maduro was just toppled. So this could embolden some
of the opposition movements in some other countries.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We've talked about the history, I mean, I say we
as social media has really talked about the United States
and regime changing, regime building, nation building in different parts
of the world, and how that ended up not really
working out at least how many people thought it would
when we went to the Middle East twenty some years ago.
(04:38):
Is this a preview of that because this doesn't feel
like it's that complex of an issue. We went to Venezuela,
we captured what we considered to be an illegitimate leader,
a dictator, and there happens to be some natural resources
is a part of this. This doesn't feel like something
where the United States is going to just occupy Venezuela.
(05:00):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I mean it's a wait and see approach. You know,
there they allowed their Maduro's vice president to be sworn in.
They did not replace her with anybody else that was handpicked,
who was the person who was the next in line
to the presidency. There, she's now going to be running
the country. She has said she's going to cooperate with
the Trump administration, though she's criticized the arrest of Maduro.
(05:22):
You know, we are not at war with Venezuela. There's
been no declaration of war from Congress. We were at
war with the countries in the Middle least, like Iraq
and Afghanistan. But I mean, we'll see what ultimately happens next.
I think that's kind of where everyone's what everyone's waiting
to see happens is how the United States governs or
or or is involved with the government in Venezuela and
(05:45):
just how this new new president decides to run the country.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
All right, Schmael's joining us. Last thing for you on this, Ryan,
I mentioned the America first thing. I understand that Donald
Trump really wanted to be known as the war or
under the peacetime president. He ran in his entire campaign
really saying that there were no wars in his first
term and he was going to end all of the
wars in his second term. And the Israel thing is
(06:12):
seemingly winding down. You have the Ukrainian in Russia war
that rages on. Hopefully there's been at least some progress
as we headed a twenty twenty six. But this is
a new thing. This is something that you know, with
the striking of those drug vessels, and now to this
point you have essentially just the extraction of a leader
(06:34):
in flying them into the United States to face trial
and you know, taking them away from a you know,
a sovereign nation, at least from the appearances of this,
How does this get explained by the Trump administration as
something that is indeed America first?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well, he was asked that at the press conference recently,
and I mean, look, he said that this is not
a declaration of war. They're just trying to get Maduro
out of office. They believe that Maduro Is was a
narco terrorist who was you know, not They've had a
warn out for his arrest, so he was supposed to
be arrested, and they felt that they just did kind
(07:11):
of what they've been supposed to do for years at
this point now, which is arrest a narco terrorist who's
been on the United States watch list and had a
bounty out for his arrest for years. But you know,
there are some like Marjorie Taylor Green who are criticizing
this move saying this is not what MAGO or the
America First Movement voted for. So so there might be
(07:32):
some of those questions that President Trump does have to answer.
But you know, I think we would point out that
he did kill a number of terrorists while he was
president the first go around, so it's not like it
was just this thing where he stopped all conflict and
stopped strikes overseas. There are plenty of strikes like the
strikes in Syria. There were multiple terrorists that were murdered
by the trumpdministration are taken out by the Trump administration.
(07:54):
So you know, there's still a you know, there's still
a lot of i mean conflicting information about out you know,
what his presidency was like the first time and what
it still is like.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, that's a really good point. Ryan Schmells has always
great stuff from Fox News Radio. We'll chat again soon. Ryan,
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Thanks Emory, you have to go one
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