The Kiss Cam & Cuddle Gate

The Kiss Cam & Cuddle Gate

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Chief people officer, the chief people officer Chris and Cabot
and Andy Byron's the CEO's name. We didn't know who
these people were or why we should care about them
until yesterday when we sat down and talked about Coldplay
doing a show in Boston this week and this allegedly
the CEO and his chief people officer of this billion
dollar company, a AI tech company called Astronomer. We're outed

(00:24):
as like having an affair. They're hugging each other. Coldplay's
doing like a kiss cam. They get shown on the
big screen and they both panic and have this like
how would you describe it?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Like the woman kind of like covers her face and
turns around. The guy just kind of like hits the deck.
And then Chris Martin is like, either they're very shy
or they're having an affair. Well, it's been recreated many times.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Have you seen the memes.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
It's very well memed at this point as well. Yeah,
there's some very very funny ones. Yeah, the memes. Yeah,
I like the memes.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
So my thing here right on this is you shouldn't
ever cheat on your wife or your husband or whatever.
Not to say that you know everyone is, but I
think we talked about this yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's just like this.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Sometimes you have to work. It's a challenge, you know. Sometimes,
you know, things get bored, things get monotonous. You're looking
for a little spark, a little excitement. How do you
find that. Well, you shouldn't be cheating on your wife,
especially with your chief people officer. Those two people together
are worth millions of dollars. So a lot of people are,
you know, saying like, what's going to happen next? Well,
yesterday this statement started uh circulating and I didn't know

(01:35):
where it came from. Looked like a screenshop, but people
were sharing it all over the place. And this is
what it says. I'm gonna read it to you. I
want you to grade this on a scale of one
to ten, okay, of like ten being a great explanation
and apology, one being a terrible you couldn't do worse.
It says this statement from CEO Andy Byron. I want
to acknowledge the moment that's been circulating online and the

(01:57):
disappointment it's caused what was supposed to be an of
music and joy turn into a deeply personal mistake playing
out on a very public stage. I want to sincerely
apologize to my wife, my family, and the team at Astronomer.
You deserve better for me as a partner, as a father,
and as a leader. This is not who I want
to be or how I want to represent the company

(02:18):
I helped build. I'm taking time to reflect, to take accountability,
and to figure out the next steps personally and professionally.
I ask for privacy as I navigate that process. I
also want to express how troubling it is that what
should have been a private moment became public without my consent.
I respect artists and entertainers, but I hope we can

(02:39):
all think more deeply about the impact of turning someone
else's life into a spectacle. As a friend once saying,
lights will guide you home and ignite your bones, and
I will try.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
To fix you Andy.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Of course, that is the lyrics of the chorus of
fix You by Cold Play.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Hi to the whole thing together.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Here.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
It's a little salty, a little sincere, little you know what.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
You got, what you got one one through ten. Oh,
I don't know this.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
It's tough because you know you're asking me to grade
someone's heart, right, It's just it's it's a collection of words.
He's not apologizing to me. There's a caveat here. Pretend
like you don't care about this man at all. You're
just grating the apology.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I don't know him personally, so like, but grade the
apology without thinking about a heart per se, because I
will explain, I.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Don't know, I don't really I don't you know. I uh,
would it be acceptable? Is that an acceptable apology? Well,
it depends the only person who can answer that. The
only person it's important to answer that it would be, well,
who's the apology to?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's to everybody, it's his wife, is his family, it's
to his company, which he also I would greatly embarrassed.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I would say, the only person who really the apology
is important to is his wife and his family, and
then maybe secondarily his company. Sure, well, so here's the caveat, Matt,
I would say that this is an okayology. It's in
the middle when he said, which should have been a
private moment, became public without my consent.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Get over yourself, pal.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, but the two things here. First off, sir, you
don't owe me an apology, right, But secondly, you also
the digital age that we live in. That's just life,
you know, well, literally it's life. And also you are
at a show, and are you going to tell everybody, hey,
you shouldn't be filming the crowd at these shows.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
That's how all I mean.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
I went to everyone the Sandler concert. Was it last
year or no, about a year and a half. It
was like October of twenty three, I think that sounds right.
And he did a lot of crowd interaction and there
was a really funny moment when he panned to someone
in the crowd that looked really familiar. Turned out it
was Kevin James. Evan James was there. Hilarious, an awesome moment.
So don't take that moment away from that's what he said.

(04:49):
That's what he's suggesting. Well, guess what, it's not real.
That apology is not real. It's not real.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
What somebody used artificial intelligence wrote it up, screenshoted it,
and somehow started circulating online. But not from Astronomer and
not from anything that Andy Byron like, nothing has come
out from them, But I would I believed it last
night when I read it, and it was a lot
of legitimate people were saying, this guy's an idiot for

(05:15):
blaming Coldplay for showing people in the crowd well apparently,
and this is what happens when you don't say anything right,
Like I know, it's like easy to lay low, but
if you just are in hiding, people are going to
take advantage of that and put stuff out there that
is about you that you have no consent over.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Literally, And that's what this is. You know what.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm not saying he needed to come out and have
an apology and say, yep, that was me. We're looking
at what the next steps are going to be or whatever.
I'm just saying, Like I think everybody was kind of
expecting him to say something because he is a notable person.
They allegedly there are reports that they had just raised
one hundred million dollars as a company, like days before
that happened. I mean, this is not a tiny company.

(05:59):
This is a billion dollar company. And two of their
top people are there hugging each other. I mean it's
quite literally the funniest thing, right is, and it's the
leader of the HR department is quite literally committing an
HR violation by even being there with him. I think,
like you can say it's a company function, but one

(06:20):
of the big like if my wife or like my
sister or somebody like that wanted to work in my
building here at iHeart and they wanted to get a job.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
There are caveats to that.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
It's just like we can't even be in the same
place at the same time, you know what I mean,
because a favoritism, b nepotism, but also to keep the
workplace balance correct, right, and you do not like I
think most corporations or most big companies are like this
where to keep everything fair. HR departments are very careful
about that. They don't want to hire people who are

(06:51):
directly related to people that are in management because of
what it could mean. So I don't know this statement,
by the way came and originated. They were able to
backtrack it to someone who has fifty followers in their
social media account and the account had included CBS News
as its user name. Because on like X. This is

(07:12):
the one thing about X that I really don't like.
You can be completely anonymous with your picture and with
your username, and you can change your username whenever you want.
Oh that's very sketchy, and it's not your handle. Your
handle you can't change all the time, but your name
you can change. So like my handle is still at
Emory Songer. But if I decided I wanted to change
my name to like Emory the dog loving dude, I

(07:35):
could just do that and then tomorrow I wake up
and be like, I just want to put the Chicago
Bears record and say Emory Songer, and then you know,
want to know, I can change it whatever I want.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
But the username can't change. So that's how you do
some slew thing there. Right.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
You could look deeper, but when the headline or the
name of the account looks and says CBS News and
nobody's catching on that this is like a parody or
a fake, it's already caught enough traction where people think
it's real. They're sure, they're screenshotting it and just sharing
it and again.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
And then Elon took over Twitter to quote unquote fix
that stuff, fix the bots and the trolls.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, that has not happened, And honestly, if you look
at Twitter on that front, I think that is I mean,
it's no better. I mean, if anything, it might be
even worse. I like that you can say things and
there can be community notes and people can get their
opinions out and not be like Shadow Band or like
blocked and stuff.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
For that.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I like the transparency, but it's just too easy to
make fake stuff. It's just way too easy and you
can't detect it. Community notes is a great thing, and
it's been interesting to watch other social platforms adopt a
similar strategy. But I agree some of these top posts.
What happens is they get popular enough and then all
these other big accounts that are either bought accounts or

(08:45):
just accounts that are trolling for your attention, they just
post things on there that are clear either you know,
like I don't know if you'd call them phishing attempts necessarily,
but just sort of like attention phishing attempts. Oh yeah,
that are all not even pertinent to the conversation. You
got to scroll down to even get into the conversation. Well, yeah,
what Twitter is for, and what's interesting is on top
of that, you can buy advertising in like high performing posts.

(09:06):
So like if something goes viral, even if it's might
maybe fake or completely troll job, those paid advertisements from
the original post are just going to be the first,
like six things that you see.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
It is not great.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's not a great I enjoy certain corners of it,
but that's this kind of thing can just go wild
on a platform like this because there's no real checking
of it until it's already gone everywhere, real fascinating stuff.
So we still haven't heard.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
From those people. For whatever it's worth.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Two thirty news ready eleven to ten kfab and raised
on there. We have to ask ourselves a couple of
different things. Number one, the fake apology, all things consider whatever.
But number two, is there some merit even with if
this apology is fake? To end the privacy invasion that
is the kiss cam? Because I have been at sporting
events where a kiss kimp goes on and I'd be

(09:51):
sitting next to my wife. But I do not want
to call attention to myself like that. I do not
want to be put on the jumbo tron and then
expected to give my wife a big smooch in front
of everyone.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
So what'd you do? I haven't.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
I've been lucky enough to where that hasn't happened. Oh,
you've never been singled out that way.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
But I don't want to be. I got you, okay,
you know what I mean. Like, it's not the kind
of attention I'm looking for. Like a lot of people
like ooh in the crowd, right, it's so much more
fun when you're not the one under the spotlight.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Also surefire away to really like, imagine you're on a
first date with somebody and you're you're building chemistry, but
you're nowhere near that sort of spot tough.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, right, do you go in? Do you try?

Speaker 6 (10:30):
No?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
You probably don't, right, but yeah, but what right, Like
a lot of stipulations there. You could really you could
mess up too, right, like you.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
If you don't? Right, Like, how do you feel that out?
Do you just look at this?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Just like the Seinfeld episode, it's a mats of Baal,
it's a Manza ball just hanging out there. You don't
want that, Hey, don't give me that kiss cam heat?
Im on my first date over here? Yeah, but how
do you we know?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Right?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
And then I saw this.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
This one went viral in Europe and I'm sure it's
a plant, right, Like I'm sure it was done to
go viral. But it's a guy sitting next to a
woman and they get put on a kiss cam and
he has like a prepared piece of paper, opens up
and it points at her and says, that's my sister.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah, So maybe just in case, if you ever take
somebody on a first date to a ball game where
they have a kiss cam. Maybe you just have a
piece of paperpired, yeah, it says this is our first date.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Don't blow this for me?

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah exactly, like he can you the lights are too bright?
Leave me alone back or the way you can do
this is when kiss cam comes on, just at completely
disinterested in one another, right, Like that's the other thing,
like if you got your hands or your arms on
your female or vice versa. The cameramen are looking for
that sort of thing for the kiss cam. So can

(11:41):
we just maybe like, has anybody's life been made better
by the kiss cam? Can we actually like maybe this
is anti American. I don't know what I'm about to suggest,
but is there a chance that maybe the kiss cam
has run its course and maybe there is a point
to this, like, hey, we don't really need to be
like putting the bright lights on and a camera on
somebody and say, hey, show us a public sign of affection,

(12:04):
a public display of affection because we want to be
entertained by it. I mean, even forty fifty years ago,
it probably would have been somewhat offensive. Maybe it was
novel and fun at first because there was a little
heat and spice to it, because nobody ever done that.
But now it's like, you really are like forcing me
or pressuring me to kiss this person that I'm sitting
next to because you think that we're a couple, And

(12:25):
even if we are a couple, you want me to
kiss my partner on command of you an intern running
the video board at a minor league baseball game, or
you know, I'm at a band's concert or a show,
and you start just putting people up there without knowing
the story, and just like bang, now again, I'm not

(12:46):
trying to give excuses to this guy. And obviously I
mentioned that the apology where he said where he allegedly
said that I feel a bit disturbed that this was
a private moment that should have never been made public.
It was a fake apology, Like I kind of thought
about that, and I was like, yeah, I mean, suck
it up, man, Like there's gonna be cameras everywhere. You
probably would have got got somehow some way. Anyway, you're

(13:07):
a pretty high profile person. But even with it being
a fake apology, and I started thinking about it, the
kiss cam itself, which is literally looking for people like that,
with the idea of like giving them like directions like hey, yeah,
better smooch now, Like I like the one where you
know people have a beer and they're like, hey, chug cam,
Like that's fun. I can do that without having asked

(13:27):
for permission from somebody. Kind of encouraging alcoholism, isn't it.
And it's not a good way to spend your money.
I mean, that's expensive. Hey, as long as you're not
spilling it all over yourself. But even then, you could
make yourself into a legend if you're able to like
nail it when you get put on the big screen. Though,
there was one guy who I can't remember. He caught
a baseball, like a foul ball in his beard glass

(13:48):
like he had a big thirty two ouncer, and the
ball landed in his cup. And while the baseball's in there,
he just doubt like it was spilled everywhere obviously when
the baseball hit it, but whatever is left, he just
chugged it to where nothing but the baseball was left,
and then he grabbed the ball and held it up. Legend, legend,
you know what I'm saying. But he didn't have to
ask for anybody's permission when that happened.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's the risk reward though, because.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
There's not a risk reward though, what's the reward if
you're on a first date and then you get put
on the kiss camp and you go in for a
kiss that like makes your night and it like leads
to a great relationship. Okay, what are the other rewards
for anyone else in that situation, whether you are or
are not willing to kiss the person next to you?

Speaker 3 (14:27):
What? What do who gains? What? What are we gonna do?

Speaker 4 (14:29):
We're gonna make people sign a consent for him when
they enter the stadium. Now, I'm just saying, no more
kiss camp.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
What anything? But the kiss Camp's fine? But this wasn't
even a kiss cam thing. It was a kiss camp.
Was at the Coldplay concert. Yeah, he Chris Martin was
like having people who looked like they were having romantics
and he was like pointing them out when they were
getting pot showed on the screen and he was like,
you know, making a moment for each person that he
would bring on the screen is like hey, let's see
you know, like see this couple.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
It was a kiss cam moment.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
You know what, Actually, can I propose something different than
stopped doing oh, I guess stop cheating on your significant
other and going to concerts. I mean just generally stop
doing that and then going to concerts in that situation.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I mean that. Yeah, it was just Look, I don't think.
I don't know. I feel like it's an overreaction, right.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
It's an overreaction to take this away completely. We talked
about it last week when you were talking about how
they were getting rid of the whole thing where you
have to take your shoes off at the airport.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, we did quite interesting.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
And that was that was a one time thing, and
then we made a new rule that lasted for about
twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
We did.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
We had a guy that tried to unsuccessfully, might I add,
carry a bomb in a shoe, and so everybody for
the next forty five years in the United States when
they went to the airport, you just like had to
be prepared to take your shoes off to go through
security so they could check your shoes for bombs.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
But I think you could argue in this Cold Play
concert situation, is it heartbreaking for the people who were
being Yes, but they were being most likely I don't know.
I can't say this for certain. There's a lot of
different things that could have happened, But it's quite possible
that that infidelity was happening before this concert even began.

(16:13):
I would say that there is a highlight isn't effect
in that case? Yeah, But again I'm not saying that
what they were doing was right. What I'm saying is
that the kiss camp itself is an antiquated and unusable,
like completely irrelevant and unnecessary thing that only creates more
tension and problems versus any type of reward. Unless you're

(16:37):
in the very strange predicament where you're on a first
or second date, you haven't even got the first base yet,
and this was like a perfect excuse to go in
for one and maybe it works for you, But there's
also a risk that if you did that, it would
go bad for you, and then the kiss can ended
up ruining your relationship or your date, or you just
sit there and you don't know what to do, and
that could also be a bad problem. Like I'm just saying,

(16:58):
I would be okay with abolish kiss cam. That's all
I'm saying. We could be We could be hunting for
a problem here. Can anyone even say that that's happened
to them? Where they've had a horrible kiss cam thing that.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yes, yes, it's gone viral before where.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
People have been filming the kiss cam.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I think just in case they got on it or something,
and then two people, you know, like a guy goes
in and gets basically rejected on the camera. Like I've
seen it happen. I've seen it. It's not a fool
proof option. And what's the reward if you do get
to kiss everybody in the stadium's like ooh yay. Like
the way you get attention by that in a positive
way is to start making out with your significant other

(17:36):
and like, who wins in that?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I don't want to see that.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Maybe we can make a rule that the only time
people can use kiss cams going forward is that Christmas
concerts when they're playing baby it's cold outside. That's like,
that's that sort of like double negative territory where it's
it's acceptable within those confines.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
How about that? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
We'll need to get this in writing, and I'm going
to start the petition. I think even though they two
people deserve to get got, and I'm okay with them
getting got, I think I would be okay with the
abolishment of the kiss cam. Just throwing that out there,
moll that Oliver for you. Would your life be any
worse if we got rid of the kiss camp? I
don't think so. Two forty nine News Radio eleven to
ten kfab em sung where the boyfriend rejected his girlfriend's kiss,

(18:17):
so she kissed the guy on her other side. Now again,
it's probably staged, and she acknowledged that, and then the
boyfriend stormed off. But that's kiss cam, right, Like, in
a theoretical perfect sense, you're going to stage something like
that for the viral moment that it could create. Right,
what's the most interesting or awkward way to do a
kiss cam? That's like they do a dance cam, right, Like,

(18:38):
he'll do a dance camp and then it'll be like
a random guy that keep showing up that says like,
I'm not dancing, but he's actually a really good dancer,
and they keep coming back to him and he says, no,
I'm not dancing, and then eventually he starts dancing and
everybody's like, oh yeah, and then he's like a really
good dancer and stuff. You know, there's ways to manufacture
that through these you know, through through the what's the
conduits of the little funny little spaces, But to just

(19:00):
be putting random people up there and being like, hey,
kiss your significant other, I tell you now, and if
you don't, you're a loser.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Look.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
I think we can't get rid of this medium that
could really be fun and jovial and sincere. I just
think there needs to be more education. I think the
intern running the camera needs to have more education on
who he needs to be panning to. But I think
the people in the crowd need to be Maybe maybe
there's a moment in high school when we just take

(19:28):
a week where we talk about the kiss cam.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, no, I think every relationship this is like first
or second date stuff. Now, if we got put on
a kiss cam, what do we do if you're taking okay,
discuss There's the thing. If you're taking the date e're on,
it's your first date and you're going into a situation
that you know there could be a kiss cam, there
needs to be a conversation while you're walking into this state.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
There shouldn't be yes, the idea that you would even
think to kiss somebody on their first date in that way,
I agree, zero percent chance. I agree, But if I'm
sitting next to a first date, and I haven't been on.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
A first day in quite a while.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I will tell you there is a zero percent chance
that I'm going in for a kiss if I'm put
on the screen for any reason. If she looks at
me and she wants to like hop over and be like,
then I'm not gonna say no. But I'm certainly not
gonna be the one to try to do that if
we're on like the fourth date, though, now we're in
some weird territory, especially if we haven't kissed yet.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Right?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Is that too many dates without a kiss? Do you
want the kiss camp to really be the catalyst for
you having your first romantic moment like that with this
person that you're just starting to see? This is what
I'm saying. It is a bad idea. And if you
are insistent on continuing to keep the kiss cam, we
need kiss cam clauses in every marriage and every relationship.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Write it down. If we're put on kiss cam, do
you want to kiss or not?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Like?

Speaker 3 (20:44):
What's the reaction? Do we laugh? Do we laugh it off?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Or do we just like suck it up and smooch
so they get the camera on somebody else? Do we
perform right, they put the cameras on us, and do
we just decide we're gonna make this more than just
a kiss cam. We're gonna stand up and do a
little salsa dance before we you know, lock glips. Do
we do some sort of like acrobatics. Do we practice
something to where we do something that you know, like
sirc do so Lee would do, and then we kiss

(21:08):
so we can get like go like viral that direction,
Like could we should talk about this before it actually happens.
I'm just trying to protect the people out there, Matt.
I'm not trying to over govern things. I'm just saying
the kiss cam more bad than good.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
So you're said get rid of it. It's gone.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
I would get rid of it. I would have gotten
rid of it yesterday. And Emory's America there's no kiss
cam allowed exactly.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
You can have your guns, you can have your your
your First Amendment rights, you can you can practice.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Whatever religion you'd like, But there's no kiss cam, not
on my watch. All right? News Radio Eleven k.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Hr manager for his company, which is like a billion
dollar AI tech company, and they're pretty notable and recognizable people.
If you can kind of put the two and two
together and you have you know, internet solus can figure
anything out these days, so you don't even have to
be notable. Well, that happened, and I was just saying
not to say that, you know, they should be in charge,

(22:04):
you know, like they should definitely have some consequences if
this is what it looked like, is that they were
getting a little intimate when they both are married to
other people, and this is a direct HR violation, And
it's just kind of ironic that it's the HR manager
that's doing the HR violating.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
But however, right like I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
To myself, isn't it kind of weird that we just
kind of normalized the idea that we're just putting a
couple of people on screen and just telling them to
kiss through kiss him at concerts or at sporting events.
And I'm asking you if you have experience or you
have thoughts, I want you to, you know, let me
know Emory at kfab dot com and get a bunch
of emails on this. And we're just having fun with it. Honestly,

(22:44):
It's really just a fun conversation. And you could also
call us at four h two five five, eight eleven ten.
But I got an email from Terry and it said,
did you see where this guy's hands were? It looked
to me that he was working on getting to third
and potentially fourth base at the same time. Is that
Is that too much for over the air?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Not when we say it like that, I don't know.
We were kind of debating that, like it's hard we
get like two seconds of seeing them before they're like
hiding their faces and trying to get out of frame.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
So it's hard to know.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Matt, you kind of suggested like there's also a chance
that maybe this wasn't an ongoing thing. Maybe this was
just something that could have started to happen just in
that moment. Not to make that doesn't make it better,
but maybe it's not like something that has been occurring
over weeks leading up to this moment. Right, Well, I
think you just have to entertain all possibilities. I think
that it's so easy to jump to now, Okay, Okham's

(23:30):
razor the most logical conclusion based on the evidence, right
is one thing.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
But I think you have to when you're thinking about it.
And by the way, what's it got to do with me?
And why do I need to sit here thinking about it,
like I I right, Like I just think that when
when you're having a conversation about it. Yeah, it is
within the continuum of possibilities. It is possible that that
was literally like the first moment of them ever in

(23:56):
like some sort of romantic interaction.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
They were together, like he was hugging her for like
a total five seconds. Maybe it was even more playful
than it wasn't now their reaction would suggest that it's not,
and more evidence if this was a kisscam thing that
they were doing, which I'm led to believe that it
absolutely is. Okay, So if the person who's operating that
video is looking for couples, they would have noticed them
ahead of time, right, So it would have had it
been going on for at least like thirty seconds going
into that right. And this, by the way, if they're

(24:20):
listening the the VA Byron and his HR manager, this
is gonna what this is going to go on? Your
and your deposition should just be prepared to discuss these things.
You're worth millions of dollars and his wife, Andy Byron's
wife is already the leaded her Facebook. I'm sure she's
on the phone to a lawyer. I don't know. Like again,

(24:41):
he's going to have to defend himself. But man, she's
that alimony check is going to hit like like nothing else.
You know, I got rid of that loser and I
got half of his money. Thanks appreciate it. I mean,
he can't argue it at this point.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Cameron's on our phone line at four h two five five,
eight eleven ten. Cameron, thanks for being back on the
show today. You have some experience on the kiss cam.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
I understand, yes I do, and I say, barn it.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Oh okay, I want to hear this all right, tell
me tell me about your experience.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
So I was at an avalanche game and I came
up with the girl sitting on my left who was
about half my age. First of all, I turned probably
as bright right as a Christmas light. She did the
same thing. It was very, very awkward, and I started
getting booed. Oh no, no, I got booed at an

(25:32):
avalanche game. I'm like, what's going on here? So then
I start mouthing because the person that was on the
other side was my wife. Okay, so I started mouthing
my wife's sitting right there, and still got booed. Well,
when it all calmed down. My wife leans into me
and says, you know, I really wouldn't have minded. And
then the guy that the other girl was with weeds overges,

(25:54):
well I would have, so we all laughed about it.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I would have. I would
have definitely if I was the guy in my uh,
you know, nice girlfriend that I'm interested in is kissing
another guy on the kiss cam.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
You know, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
You can't just guess as to who's a couple and
just like put the cam on him.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
You're you're these interns that are you know, doing this
camera work in this cutting. Not to say that there
aren't professionals that might be doing it. You can't just
pick two random people. You got to pick two people
that look like they're actually together. They're already like with
their hands held or you know, they are the arms
over the guy's shoulder or something, you know, like make
it obvious. I feel bad for your camera, and that
is example a as to why we should be getting

(26:35):
rid of the kiss cam.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
That is terrible.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I'm so sad that you had that experience that what
should have been a fun hockey game.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Well, exactly the other part is, even if they were
showing me and the wife, if you don't do a
good enough kiss, you get booed too. You do too much.
Nobody wants to see that. I mean, there's.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
No exactly, there's no reward at all. There's like nothing.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
You know, we're on the same page camera, And I'm
glad that you called in to help corroborate my argument here.
I thanks so much for calling in. May appreciate it
you too. All right, we got a couple of emails here,
John says this. Garth Brooks was in Omaha back in
twenty eighteen. His wife Christie Yearwood, came out to seeing
She's in love with the boy.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
You know that's a pretty famous song, you know that
sing it for the people. She's in love with the boss.
Nice job. All right, that's enough. I didn't. I don't anymore.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Thank you a strong and she strongly advised anyone at
the concert with an affair should consider going to the bathroom.
Maybe her verbiage needs to become law. If we're going
to keep the kiss cam, do you have to do this?
You should you buy by law have to say if
you're having an affair, this is the time where you
go to the bathroom or go grab some popcorn. I

(27:53):
mean she said that because she was doing a kiss
cam thing, like while she was doing the song right now,
I'm not saying, like, like theoretic that could be a compromise,
like a legally capable thing of just like and I'm
not saying hide people that are having affairs, because there's
plenty of people who aren't having an affairs that I
think also don't want to be on the kiss camp
like me for any reason. Like Cameron said, what do
you gain by even going in for the kiss? You

(28:16):
have to have like an agreement between the two people.
And even like I said, the only person that might
actually legitimately benefit from a legitimate kiss cam moment is
the first or second date guy who hasn't actually had
a kiss with this woman yet, And this was like
the perfect excuse for her to allow that to happen.
Or maybe he sees that she's willing in that moment

(28:38):
and that kind of kick starts maybe a little bit
more passion between them.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
All I'm saying is that's like the only scenario I
can see this being a good thing for the people
on camera. So you're an agreement. I've turned you. You're
now team ban and abolish the kiss cam.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
I can't say that I am, but I've never I.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Have never been.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
I don't I guess I don't think I've ever even
been at an event where there was one.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
A kiss cam. I don't do you not get out
like there's a kiss cam? Like everything may now now
you say that, Actually, I've been to a few storm
Chasers games this year and I don't recall seeing a
kiss cam. They have all sorts of other like dance
type cams, like to raise the roof cam and like
different things, or muscle cam. I went to like every
single home game that the U and O hockey team had,

(29:26):
and they have a really good production team, and I
don't recall them doing a kiss cam either, now that
you mention it, like maybe maybe there's less places doing
kiss cam style things than I'm thinking of now that
you mentioned it.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
You know, what, is there a way we can do
a poll? Matt?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I'm going to give you a payroll or a bank roll.
You have ten thousand dollars, and over the next three
hundred and sixty five days, at least two times a week,
you have to go to a sporting give it somewhere
within two hours from here. I think that you can
probably do that for ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
I don't know if I could fit that into my schedule,
but I can attempt to, all.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Right, And then you have to report back how many
kiss cams that you see and where they were, and
then if you are, you know, film it. That way,
we can review the footage and review the film and
see and kind of see, like, if there's a.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Seems like a suspicious and weird thing to be filming,
I would I would like.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
To, Hey, somebody was filming it in Boston at a
Coldplay concert. That's the only reason we're talking about it
right now.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Okay, So my concern too that there's a lot of
things to be concerned with here. My concern too is
that what if you have an intern operating the video
that like is just salty. Maybe maybe he just got
broken up with or something and he's just putting all
kinds of people who don't belong on the kiss cam,
like Cameron's example right there. Do you think that was
an honest mistake or was that guy trying to mess around?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well, that's the thing, right, if you're a camera operator
and you know kiss cam's coming up, are you being
told directly to find people that are likely to kiss,
or are you finding a pair of people that aren't
likely to kiss and you're trying to get like some
sort of tension and entertainment. I think what ended up
happening to Cameron is bad for Cameron and the girl,
but it was actually good for the rest of the

(31:00):
arena because it got them to react. If they just kissed,
nobody cares. I think people, more than anything, just want
to have a reaction to something, and what is there
to react to? Unless two things happen, there is that
awkward tension, or you see somebody having an affair, or the
other end, somebody gets so into it that it gets
a little bit dicey as to whether or not you
can even show that on camera.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Has that happened, I'm sure it has.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
If I've decided I want it to be super performative,
that's what I do. I would just like we urt agreement.
Like let's say me and my wife are like, hey,
if we get on kiss Camp tonight, we're going all in.
You know what we're gonna do, Like she's going to
hop in my lap, I'm gonna stand up, I'm going
to lift her onto my shoulders or something. We're gonna
walk down like we're gonna We're gonna make a scene
out of it, and then I think people will be like, oh,

(31:44):
that was so awesome. I don't think a lot of
people have done that. But I'm just saying, like, if
you really wanted to make a moment out of that, yeah,
there you go. You just have to consent to it.
I got my people working behind the scenes on this.
We're gonna figure out what it will take, whether or
not it's worth going to legal matters to outright band
kiss cam at every sporting evating concert from here from henceforth,

(32:06):
this is now my priority. And I don't care about
the adulterers they should have gotten caught. I'm just saying,
like the kiss cam in general, it's just it's an
outdated and bad idea and there's nothing funny or cute
about it anymore.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
It's run its course. You know what we need? Knee cam?
A knee cam?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yep, everybody, show me your knee and then we can
really see who's flexible and who's.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Been working out. Knee cam.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Okay, I don't feel like that will land the same
I wonder if that won't attract the same attention.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Hey, that's the thing though. If you think the kiss
cam is good, I'm saying the kneecam is no worse.
All right, I'm just throwing that out there. Three nineteen,
News Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Em Marie's songer on news Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
If we're examining all angles, maybe this guy's wife is
just a bad person and he finally found someone who's
warmed to him. Just a thought, and there's that a maybe.
You know, we and we talked about this. There's pictures
of his wife circulating. We're talking about the cold Play
astronomer CEO and him hugging his HR manager, and certainly
they are not together, and they're married to different people,

(33:13):
and they're being added for being adulterers and a lot
of people are judging them right now. She's attracted like
his uh, his wife, and you and I agree that
she's actually like more attractive objectively than the woman here.
But that doesn't tell the whole story, right because I.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Like the word objective because I have the subjectively right,
If you look at the two I think if we
if we pulled one hundred guys, I think eighty of
them would agree with us. Well, it's take that the
family feud before we can say for sure.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
All right, well either way there the attractiveness isn't the
point here, right, This guy is like fifty fifty five
years old. Probably he's got a ton of money, he's
his life is probably pretty good, and anything negative in
his life he's probably feeling like he has a solution
to Unfortunately, his solution was I'm going to go to
a Cold Play concert with a couple of my coworkers,

(34:00):
and then he starts hugging on his you know, his
HR manager. We do not know how long that was happening,
or if this was something that had been building for weeks.
We just don't have those answers. But at the same time, right,
it's like you, even with like what seems to be
a great looking wife and a great family at home,
maybe it wasn't a great situation for him and he

(34:20):
couldn't get.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Out of it. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Well, and see here angles, Adam, if we really were
to examine all the angles, good sir, we could pose
it that possibly maybe he sneezed and his hands through
in front of him, and it just happened that they
land in this embrace, right or maybe or maybe they
were so excited and caught up in their the moment
of their favorite song. She looked over and said, uh,

(34:44):
I don't know. Uh, let's do like.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
A ballet move, you know, and they got caught mid
mid ballet move.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Or what if it was a super glue accident, right,
like he was trying to super glue a piece of
his pants back together. And we've all been to that
awkwardness before that horror, the horror find mistake of your
pants falling off in a Cold Play concert. Surely we've
all experienced he.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Had super glue and he was super glueing stuff and
his hands got his.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Hands got stuck somehow around her waist, Your honor.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
It's possible, your honor.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I would just say that all that would be debunked
based on the reaction as soon as they were shown
on camera.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
That would be what I would say.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Right, And then he took his hands promptly off and
then put him on his face.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
She put her hands on her face, and he just
kind of ducked out a frame, right, you just like
dull out a frame.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Okay, so super glues off the table. Super glues off
the table. I would say, sneeze is no.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I think it is because you know, like they were
there long enough to get on the cam to begin with,
and they were looking for people who looked like couples.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
For whatever it's worth.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Not to give them a lot of outs here. And
I'm not saying again I have to I have to
keep saying this. I'm not saying they shouldn't have got caught.
I'm just also saying that we don't know the whole story.
And is this five seconds of video like enough? I mean,
it's been enough to get people talking and sharing it.
It's been the most viral thing of the last two
days on social media, still going viral. It helped that

(36:05):
there was a fake apology that was released last night
that has gone, you know, made the rounds and still
seeing that apology everywhere as if it's real. So that's
but it's not real forever exactly. So you have all
of this and there's going to be like an actual
moment when they do say something right, and this is
something that nobody actually needs to care about, but it
does kind of open the door kind of like a

(36:26):
mirror to us, like what would we have done in
that situation? But also it's kind of entertaining to see people,
you know, doing stuff that's kind of weird, right, Like
it's like, why would they dive off screen like that?
That's the only reason that this has become the moment
that it's become, and it's actually kind of interesting to
see how people reacting to it. At the same time,

(36:47):
we don't like, is this enough for like a documentary
to kind of investigate the entire thing that somebody would
investigate these people's personal lives to understand why they were
doing this in the first place, or maybe it just
was a moment of lust kind of bore out of
just being in those same place at the same time.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Have we considered maybe he was in the middle of
performing the Heimlich maneuver there, it's it's the dark. They
could have she could have been eating popcorn. Who knows,
Maybe he reacts cherry again, I would be eating cherries
with pits her her her colleague, which we also know
is her second in command in the HR department, is

(37:25):
standing right next to her, and she has like got
a huge smile on her face and she is laughing
as they're being shown on the big screen. But these
are smart people. Obviously they said the room quickly. They
understood the optics. I don't think that was what it was.
I think we can debud the reaction debunks all of
your suggestions. I'm just saying that Scooter says, uh, Scooter says,

(37:45):
let's replace kiss cam with booger cam.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Booger cam. But then that would I suppose he just
like that? Does he mean like the pick good? I
think probably catching people in the act of oh yeah,
just like finding people who are like fish for gold
up there. Now, that could be kind of funny but
incredibly embarrassing. If you have an idea of what to
replace kiss cam with, call us four oh two, five five,

(38:08):
eight to eleven ten. You're listening to news radio eleven
ten kfab and raised on Cuddlegate or is that what
we're doing.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
I'm calling it Cuddlegate.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
That was on a chairoon up on the TV up
here that plays Fox News. Yeah, maybe they're checking that out,
or maybe that has already kind of made the rounds
as the name for we got to put gate on everything,
you know, Yeah, thanks Nixon, weirdo, I'm not a crook.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
We got you.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Remember, I offered you ten thousand dollars, by the way,
to go around the country and observe stadium kiss Cam.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Has that the price you settled on tenth oul.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, but you had to use that as a bank
roll to like buy the tickets and buy the food.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
I gotta be honest, if I'm going around the country
and doing this and trying to keep my life organized
here in place, I don't think that's worth a squeeze man,
Like I I'm gonna need a lot more than that.
Can I get a per diam? What's a perdium?

Speaker 3 (39:01):
How much?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
How much money do you think I have for kiss
cam research? I might as well just send like one
hundred bucks to like fifty people and let them do
the work collectively, and I'm gonna save.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
A ton of money. Yay, perdium?

Speaker 1 (39:12):
That was right, Oh man, I nailed that. Take what
you can get, well, I take it back anyway. I'm
gonna put the ten thousand dollars into a toilet paper fund,
because whatever the heck we have in that bathroom is sandpaper.
I'm just gonna throw that out there.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
You know, maybe they didn't have to make that such
a public thing for everyone that just hear that, and
now they're thinking about that, And now they're sitting at
their day job in front of an audio board. Now
they're just going to be thinking about that.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I'm just saying, maybe if I just put a little
bit of public pressure out there into the ether, maybe
we could get some actual toilet paper that's usable around here.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
That's all I'm saying. I don't disagree. That thing is
not even one play. It might be half ply. I
think it's actually two ply of sandpaper. Oh so you
go on the other way. It's a thick sand like.
I don't know, man, it hurts my hands just to
hold it. You get a splinter. You're saying, you got splinters?
Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
It's like, I just I never felt like those Charman
bears really like we're relatable until right now.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
I'm just gonna say that. All right, there you go,
all right, okay, well there you go. People.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
It's sorry, it entered my mind all right to the
things that you experience that all of a sudden kind
of cloud your judgment. We are taking calls, we're talking
about the kiss Cam, and we're kind of trying to
come up with like maybe an alternative because I want
to abolish it, and I think if we outlined the
pros and the cons, I think the cons went out

(40:33):
pretty easily. So let's just abolish the thing. But we
need a new idea, like what's going to take its place.
Brian's on our phone line of four h two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten and wants to be a part of the
show today. Brian, what's on your mind?

Speaker 6 (40:44):
Hey see, I think you got to keep the kiss Cam,
but you do opt in, so you walk in, you
put your ticket stub in a bucket or whatever something
like that. Then you've got a bunch of fun people
who want to be on the video. They want to
be you know, kissing live and whatnot, and they can
enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
They can get a little saucy, you know, Yeah, were prepared. Yeah,
And if you if you come in and you have
that and then they tell you, like where where you're
going to be sitting, and like you sign off on
being on the kiss Cam. I mean, you could really
plan to do all sorts of theatrics when you get
put up there, right like there would.

Speaker 6 (41:14):
Definitely be some theatrics, like what you were saying with
your wife, possibly put her on your shoulders and yeah,
people would be ready to do some stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Or maybe hear me out on this, maybe you like
do like a one eighty and you just start kissing
the people next to you on the other side, like
you rope them in like somehow, and like all of
a sudden, like the entire row is like kissing different people.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
That would go viral. I mean if that's.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
Next level, Yeah, that's the next level if.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
We're trying to get attention. I mean, like that would
do it, wouldn't it. I mean I think there's a
I think there's a market for that kind of virality. Brian,
I like where your brain's at. Thanks for being on
the show. Thanks for calling it, John says weggiecam Now,
that is something you're absolutely gonna need. Consent, will consent

(42:01):
for consensual consent? I guess is that is ever done?
The consensual consent? Yeah, you both have to consent about
consenting at the same time.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Right, you must consent consensually? Must we consensually consent to
this on camera? Weggie? I don't like it. I don't
like it. I want it to go away. How would
that be executed?

Speaker 4 (42:29):
By the way, there are plenty of uncomfortable people listening
right now. I had a sweet older lady call in
and say she didn't even want to kiss her husband
on their wedding day.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Oh so that almost like a different problem.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Well different She reminded me that back in the eighteen
hundreds they just kissed on the hand.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
What else did they do in the eighteen hundreds, I
don't know, but she called it. Did she have like
did she have experience? I just kind of am interested.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
I'm just telling you, for instance that for reference, there
might be some people out there who are who are
turning into prunes right now because they're having trouble with
this conversation.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Okay, well lighting up, Like what do you want me
to say? Would you prefer us talk about Weggiecam some more?

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
So so okay, so you're on Weggie Cam. Let's just
let's play this out. You're on Weggie Cam, and the
whole thing is like I think you have to be
given a weggie right, Like, by the way, people were
dropping like flies back in the eighteen hundreds, So like
maybe right.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Right, I'm just saying like what do you what are
you doing? I mean, seize the day? What a formal bunch?
Do you think what was to be gained?

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Right?

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Like?

Speaker 1 (43:51):
And we have all these TV shows that obviously show
that there was some promiscuit, PM promiscuity, promiscuity that was
going on in the uh, in the in the era,
there were places where you could go find yourself a
gal for the evening if you wanted to. It's not tender,
but you know, it's kind of a district the yeah,
like the eighteen hundred, like the eighteen eighties version of

(44:14):
tender was you know, you just have a saloon that
happened to have a gal there that was kind of
operating a business upstairs, if you know what I mean.
There are plenty of depictions of that. Anyway, wedgie cam,
so you stand up, you're on the camera, you stand up,
and like your border has to just like give you
a wedgie? Like is that the way we didn't.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Visual My only thought is that we're, uh, we're.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Creating more problems here.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Imagine the face of the first guy. It would have
to be staged, like the only way we make that
work as at stage. But I think everyone would laugh everyone.
Oh man, Johnny, that was too good. I can't help myself.
That was really funny. Got some more emails coming in.

(45:11):
I promise you we won't talk about this all day,
but as long as the thoughts are coming in or
you want to be on the show, call us.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I were having fun. It's a Friday. What do you
want from me?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Four oh two five five eight eleven ten four oh
two five five eight eleven ten. Would be happy to
chat with you on news radio eleven ten KFAB and.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Rays Songer on news Radio eleven ten KFAB. We have
Beth on our phone line. Bet you got some thoughts
with us today?

Speaker 7 (45:33):
Yeah. I have a couple of ideas for cam.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Okay, let's hear you could do that.

Speaker 7 (45:38):
Well, one of them I got from you. You could
have a laugh cam for people laugh.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 7 (45:44):
Yeah, and you could have a uh I just forgot
what the other one was, so it was a laugh
cam and something else I was thinking about. Well, I
thought about a whole lot of them. I thought about
flash your teeth cam. You could do that. That'd be
a healthy you could do. Uh, what do people do?

(46:05):
I mean you have to think about that or just
say what's in your head? Cam? Like, what do you
think of cam?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Well, Beth, does that mean you're not in favor of
the wedgie cam?

Speaker 7 (46:15):
No, I don't even like because he cam that's awful.
I know that's that funny really, but I think laughing
is funny.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
It is it is funny laugh and it's it's harmless,
which is you know, also part of it. So uh yeah, Beth,
I appreciate you call it in. Thanks so much for
listening to the show and taking part as always, have
a great day. Uh Man had a Adam Adam emailed back,
you know, Adam, the guy who's you know, saying, are
you guys really trying to like figure out what was

(46:44):
going on this affair based on five seconds video? And yes,
we were for the record with the Boston Coldplay astronomer,
CEO and HR leader. Who were you know, hugging each other?
Adam says, uh, I'm pointing out the absurdity of the
time frame top based on the available evidence. But I
also got to disagree with which woman is better looking.
My vote is for kristin Cabo. The difference isn't super drastic,

(47:07):
but I'd say seventy five to twenty five in favor
of Kristin versus his wife, who just looks fantastic again
in the pictures. And I suppose it's a blonde versus
brunette argument, but it's also a new versus old argument, right.
I mean, if you were seeing both women, one every
day for the last twenty five years, and the other
woman you've seen, you know, just at work over the

(47:28):
last six months, there's a little bit of you know,
this is the thing. I'm not saying. Cheating is good,
and it's never good. There's no good excuse ever to
do it. Infidelity is bad. We've covered that, right. But
while this is a jovial, lighthearted conversation about kiss kims
and whatnot, I think we do need to lay this
out here, right. There's no doubt this situation is more

(47:49):
complex than we're gonna know or these people are gonna
be willing to share. And it's not gonna make the
significant others of these two people feel any better. It's
not gonna make the people who invest in donated money
into this company feel any better. Now that this you know,
scandal is kind of overriding any good that this AI
development tech company was doing. The millions and millions and

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millions of dollars that they, you know, have at their fingertips.
But what I will say is, as far as a
personal thing, I have no idea. It's easy to say
that Andy Byron's a fool for what he was doing.
But if if we can't put ourselves into the exact
moment that was being shared and what was going on
up there, I don't know that we're ever going to
be able to truly know exactly why it happened, or

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how it happened, how long it was going on, and
all that stuff. That's not to say that I'm in
favor of what they were doing. It's not to say
that what they did was good or forgivable. What I'm
saying is it's kind of I don't know, easy for
us to armchair quarterback this situation without knowing all of
the truth. That's all I'm thrown out there. Dan's on
the phone line at four h two five five, eight,

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eleven ten. Daniel with Emery on eleven ten, kfab Yeah,
I was at a game.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I was at the Twins game last year. It may
have a look alike cam. Oh, and they showed a
picture of Andy Reid, and I looked at my son
and I went, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
And sure enough, and I see that's a that's a
pretty harmless way, right to have some fun with people, right,
Like the lookalike Kim. I had an email that said
that too, that's hilarious. That like that to me is funny, right,
and you were laughing too, I bet.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Right, Oh yeah, it was hilarious. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Now see, like there there's a good kiss cam replacement
right there. Dan, appreciate you coming in, man, thanks for listening. Yeah,
that there you go. There you go find doppelgangers of people.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
That is.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
That is honestly a great and I would say generally
wholesome alternative absolutely to the kiss cam, because have you
ever seen compilations of those?

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Oh yeah, they're very funny, right.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
And I think I have actually been at a sporting
event where they did that and it was fun and
it's funny to see who they pull from the crowd
and who.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Would you who would you look like? Who would be
like the doppelganger you would expect?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Like, like, I'll give you the two that I've had
people in my adult life compare me to, Well, they
are not exactly very similar. Looking people, Okay, well, this
is the thing, right, he said, he saw Andy Reid
show up and he just knew it was probably gonna
be him, and it was, right, is there like a
celebrity they could throw up there and you'd be like, oh,
this could be me, and then it shows and it
could be you.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Who is it.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
I'll give you two that people have compared me to one.
It was Okay, here's the situation. I used to work
way back in college for a summer. I worked for
a facility, not Boystown, but similar to it. It was
a facility that basically helped care after and helped correct
wayward boys who had gotten into some trouble in their

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youth and now had to live at this facility and
there and we were playing pickup basketball, was one of
the I was one of the people working there as
kind of like in a counselor role, you know, basically
just helping day to day. And this kid who was
kind of mad at me. I can't remember why, but
he told me he called me Andy Milanacus.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Wow, that's the name. I haven't heard of in a while.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
And most people haven't and most people are like, don't
look it up, though, he's like a fifteen.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
I want to keep the facade. He's like, what's might
look like a potential fifteen? Like a perpetual fifteen. Yeah,
it wasn't good. You know, I have some condition that
made him like look and act and sound like he
was like fifteen even though he was a grown man.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Yeah, you know, you play it off tough in the moment.
I'm not gonna lie. I went home and looked at
the mirror for a long time that night. Okay, so
that I mean that would hurt in the moment. Yeah,
what what was the other one?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Had?

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Another one? This was really interesting. Remember the the the
pr lady who came in with mister Monopoly.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Oh yeah, she.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Told me I looked like Jason Sadekis. I was like,
I don't see it, but okay, like I'm not take
your glasses. I'm not mad about that.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Do you see that?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
I don't see that at all. Put your finger or
wear like a thick mustache. Okay, I think it's in there,
you think so I do. I got a littles.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
I think you got it that you'd have to lose
the glasses and the mustache. You have to be thicker.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Ted last style okay, but kind of in the eye
knows range, she might be onto something.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
I might have had the facial hair then too. I
don't know, I have never seen it.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
You know, like you kind of have to look compartmentalize
your whole face. You can't look at your whole face
and be like, oh, yeah, you look like sidekis. But
like up here in the eye knows region, I think
it might she might be onto something.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
I'll take that over Andy Milanacus every day all day.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I think Trevor Lawrence is the obvious one that I've
been compared to quite a bit with their area. Yeah,
but anyway, we're having fun. Thanks for listening to news radio.
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