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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Matt Case, What would you do if you were the
producer of this situation over here. I know you're a
radio guy but not a TV guy. But what would
you do? Would you dump this this lunatic out of
the way so we could listen to Donald Trump? Or
you just let him continue with his analysis?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You know what I would do? What I would dump
my TV in a fish tank and go for a walk.
That wasn't You're the producer, You're in the truck. You
can't just like, can't just do that? Oh well, then
I'll have to recalibrate, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Well, recalibration is probably not a bad thing at this
point anyway, if I was going to listen to what
he had to say, But the talking heads are just
dominating the conversation. Can we start there? Can we start
there for a second?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
How valuable are pundits zero? Well, especially in this scenario, right,
like like political political pundits, like they have to make
a living, but you'd think they could do something else
besides tell us stuff from a specific angle, like tell
me the strategies, tell me the ins and the outs,
and said, there's talking about policies, like I know how
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to think about this stuff. Why are you dominated? Like,
why are you telling me what I should be thinking.
That's one thing I try not to do on this
show is tell you what you should think. I'll tell
you what I think. So who, I don't know? Pundit's
zero value and it's not zero, it's not absolute zero.
What is the Who was the first? Like, like, who's
the first?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Pundit? Pundit? Who was the first pundit? The very first
of any kind? Yeah, the very first pundit.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It sounds like a question for Chad gpt Who was
the first pundit? Who was the first pundit? The answer
is It Originally comes from the Sanskrit word pandita, which
referred to a learned scholar or expert, particularly in Indian
philosophy or religion, in modern sense referring to a commentator
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or expert. It evolved in the seventeenth century, and one
of the earliest figures considered a pundit in this context
was an English writer and physician named Sir Thomas Brown
Brown with an E. He wrote extensively on a variety
of subjects, offering insightful commentary on contemporary issues, which aligns
with the modern understanding of a pundit as someone who
provides expert analysis and opinion. The answer to your question,
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Sir Thomas Brown, thank you chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, at least now we know who to blame.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well to him that blamed it was a second guy,
he was like, yeah, I could do that. That's true.
It was a second guy. He probably was like, you know,
actually that's not a bad idea.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
If I just tell people my opinions matter, maybe they'll
believe me.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So, Sir Thomas Brown, by the way, born October nineteenth,
sixteen oh five in London, died October nineteenth, sixteen eighty two.
He died on his birth and his seventy seventh birthday.
Poor guy seventy seven is a long time back then, though,
I mean he had a good run anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I wonder if he died like during his birthday party.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I don't think the threw parties in He probably to
be honest, he probably had no idea. He didn't even
know it was his birthday. Yeah, well, actually he probably did.
He lived in England in a time where England was
like recording things pretty religiously. There were recording things that
were happening in the letters that they have. They still
have the letters of the guys from Jamestown in the
time period when he was born, so they were recording
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things pretty well. He probably knew it was his birthday.
He just happened to die on it. Anyway, that's the guy. Anyway.
Can you take a listen? Is he talking now? Are
we listening to him?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Now? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
All right, fire away, here's Donald Trump in Michigan.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Violent crime.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I'll bet the people behind me don't have anything like that.
Just gets better, it doesn't get worse, including a fifty
eight percent increase in rape, eighty nine percent increase in
aggravated assault, and a fifty six percent increase in robbery.
The crime in America, the factors is out of control.
I watched last night in amazement as they tried to
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pretend that everything was great. The crime was great, the
border was great. There wasn't a problem at all, No inflation,
no nothing. There has been a report the job numbers
over the last period of time were fraudulent. They and
I understand that because I know how the job numbers go,
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and you want to be a bad person in high office,
you can be a bad person, but the numbers are
going to be revised that the job numbers were far
or less. At nobody's ever seen the six hundred thousand
to a million people less jobs less. And let's see
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if that turns out to be true. But that's what
the rumor is. It was reported by a very respected
outfit group, and we'll see what happens. But that's a
terrible insult to our economy because we were seeing numbers
that were okay, not great, but now we're seeing numbers that,
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when they're adjusted, are a disaster.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
But crime in America is out of control.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm going to make it, along with the economy, inflation, voters,
and energy dominance my top priority. I'm including crime in America.
You know, normally that's done locally, and we're going to
give the local people a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Of help like I did.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
All Right, that's Donald Trump in Michigan. Just a little taste.
He's talking about crime because he's in Howell, Michigan, Michigan,
a state that is notorious, especially around the Detroit area,
for having some real issues with crime in the last
few decades. Yeah, yesterday Joe Biden was the chief speaker.
But did you see who el spoke. I want to
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talk about more Biden. Biden what he said, it was
in honor of his life. Before we talk about who
Elle spoke. What do you think that feels like? Is
it is?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
It?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Is it like a elderly head football coach basically fired
from a job or parting ways mutually, if you want
to believe that, and not knowing whether or not there's
anything left for him after that. Bill Belichick, for example.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Reminds me of a Norm McDonald joke. Hit me as
long as you know, there's no curse words. She actually
outlived Norm m MacDonald. So he was reading a headline he said,
Barbara Walters announces her retirement. What's next for old Babs death?
(06:23):
She's outlived him, but yeah, rest in peace?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Norm?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Norman, Well, I just I wonder, right, like, what, let's
forget the politics for a second. What do you think
it felt like for him to go on that stage
everything that we know it was not his choice to
get out of this race. He's still the president through
the end of the year where January twentieth more specifically, right, yeah,
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what what would that feeling be like to go there
and hat in hand basically say hey, thank you for
all your support. It's been the honor of my life
to be your president. Now here's a couple of things
you can take with you as you go on without me,
You pieces of crap.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
He didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I got to imagine that there was a challenge to
him being like, yeah, all you people that also basically
were like, hey, get out of the way, grandpa. You
can take these two words and take it back where
it came from. He also didn't say that, but I
kind of wish he would have.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
They gave it to him and then they took it away.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, and this is the thing. They waited until that.
Everything was fine and peachy until that debate. It was
just peachy until the debate. But then once that was exposed,
it's like, this is what he is.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Then all of a sudden they're just like, oh wait
a second. Now the American public know know all the
secrets we've been hiding from them. He can possibly win. Well,
you got to get him out of hair. And then
they like hire Clooney to do that. Oh did I
say that out loud? Hire Clooney to do the op ed?
They didn't hire him. Might as well have, though, because
he's a guy that's in charge of a lot of
their fundraising. You know why, because he's in influential Hollywood.
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What do they say, mediaite, mediaite, socialite, that's it. Socialite.
He's a socialite.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
He's a yeah, a socialite.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
He's a socialite. Yeah, I don't know. And they had
all these different congress people coming out of the woodwork
saying he can't win and we need someone new. And
then I mean, and he's on the campaign trail until
he gets COVID nineteen. Remember he was doing the NATO thing.
He did the press conference that wasn't like super horrendous.
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We didn't learn as much as we would have liked to,
but you know, at least he took questions for an
hour or so.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But then he got COVID.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And then they trapped him in a room, probably all
wearing their fifteen ninety five masks and all that stuff,
to show him all the poll numbers right to his
face so he couldn't avoid him. And they're like, dude,
you're gonna lose. Just get out of the way. It'll
save you the trouble and at least give us a
fighting chance in November. Or they held him at gunpoint.
We don't know that either. They're not really the gun
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wheeled and tight. But you know what I mean, I
wonder what the emotions were for a guy of that age.
This is the same type of person that is going
to fight you when you have to take the keys
from them and tell them they shouldn't be driving anymore.
Right They're going to be surly about it, rightly, So
you're taking away some of the dignities that they've had
in their life. And he's got to go up there
and act like everything's good. And by the way, you
(09:19):
guys are awesome. Support the people behind me, these people
that you haven't voted for one single time in this
industry for this job, not once, but go ahead and
vote for him because they don't like me anymore. He
pieces a crap. You didn't say that either, but you
know what I mean, I would be I would have
been embittered by that. I would have been very embittered.
(09:41):
He's had a few weeks to ruminate on it and
probably put himself to pull himself together to leave with
as much dignity as he can. A bunch of people
holding up to thank you Joe signs, which you know
that wasn't staged at all. Things have not been great
in America in a lot of different ways. It's interesting
to watch them try to turn all of that into
a net positive somehow by completely ignoring the policies, ignoring
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the situation within the policies. They just are not acknowledging
them at all. And they have distracted us legitimately with
the Biden thing. They've distracted us legitimate with the Walls thing.
They're distracting us with the pointing the fingers at Trump
and in advance and talking about how terrible they are
about different things and all that stuff, and less and
less people who are in the middle are asking all
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those questions because they see a vibrant face like Kamala Harris,
who is such a stark contrast from what they have
been seeing with Joe Biden. It's an all time psychological move,
and nobody's talking about the policies of it.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Nobody.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It's crazy to me, Well, I am right now, but
you know what I mean. You're figuring out what I'm
putting there. You smell them when I'm stepping in.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah. It certainly has raised a whole lot of more
questions than we have answers too.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And they're not going to give you answers. That's the thing,
because nobody's going to make them give an answer, because
they're still going to have enough people in there to
make it look like they're having a jovial celebration about
all the great things that are happening in America right now,
even though every single thing that they say is great
is completely light about and manufactured to make them seem
better so they can win in November. That's politics for you,
straight up. It couldn't have worked out better for him either. No, No,
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the timing's perfect. That's perfectly perfect. You could literally talk
to them and like have lined this out. It wouldn't
have timed itself more perfect than it did for them,
right at the right time for them to get enough
momentum right before the election in early voting, not too
much time to where a bunch of stuff could get
poked holes into. It's just the right amount of time.
It's insane, and the Republicans had already played all their hands,
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including the JD Vans play if they didn't plan it,
because I'm not so sure that Biden was not on board.
It was pretty clear he wasn't on board with anything
that was happening, but you could not have planned the
timing better.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Straight up, you got thoughts on it?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Call us four h two five five eight, eleven ten,
two twenty on news radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Oh, nice song. You Won't go to College? On news
radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Is it your eighth anniversary because you've been together eight years?
Or is it really your seventh anniversary because your first
anniversary isn't until a year after you got married? You
picking up what I'm putting down there. Time is relative. Honestly,
I have no idea. It's probably still your eighth anniversary, right.
Who's to say if you said seventh anniversary, people would
be like that you've been together seven years. No, I've
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been together eight years. We've just celebrated seven anniversaries.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
My head hurt. Did you see Steve.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Kerr at the DNC last night? I did not Steve
Kerr tell the people what Steve Kurse famous for. He
was that white guy on the bulls, Judd Bushler, Bill Weddington,
Luke Longley. Okay, that were Tony kuh coach. Don't forget
Tony ku coach.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh that's funny. There was a bunch of them. I
guess if you think.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
About yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you're not gonna see that.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And do you remember that Bulls team after Jordan left,
they were led by Kup coach. Yeah no, not a
dumpster fire. The second best player was Cornell David those
video games overall, another noted white guy Cornell David by
the way, Yeah no, no. Steve Kerr, blonde white guy Arizona.
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Great broadcaster after he got done though, right Like, I
loved him on the broadcasts, and then he did the
GM thing with the Suns for a few years that
didn't go well. He was the GM for the Suns
while Steve Nash was there and they got shack and
all that stuff, and.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
He didn't go well. And then he went back to
broadcasting after a few years. Still was awesome in the booth,
loved it. And then at the height of I don't know,
like something changed where Phil Jackson had taken over the
Knicks and there was this whole thing is Steve Kerr
was going to like potentially be the next head coach
of the New York Knicks's by no coaching experience, and
then he just kind of decided to coach the Warriors
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who worked a little bit better position for the future. Obviously,
we found out that was the right move because they
won the championship in his first year. But anyway, he's
had quite an eclectic basketball career. But in recent years,
Old Stevie has gotten a little bit more outspoken about
his political viewpoints, especially on things like gun control.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
His father was.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Killed and murdered in Europe. His dad like teaching in
other places around the world. He's got a very interesting
kind of story with his childhood, and I'm not going
to pretend like I know what that's like. But with
each in every mass shooting that has happened in America,
Steve Kurr has been a very outspoken advocate for gun
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control and he gets very emotional about it. I was surprised, though,
fresh off of Squeak ping out a gold medal as
the head coach of USA Basketball, which, by the way,
what a coaching staff. His top two assistants were Eric
Spolstra of the Heat and ty Taran Lou from the
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Clippers Nebraska legend. By the way, tarn Lou, those are
the three coaches. Those are two assistants. And then Steve
Kurr was the head coach. They barely win the gold medal,
barely survived Serbia. Remember that that was a heck of
a game. But then he comes back first stop. Now
we're not getting ready for the NBA season or anything.
I'm going to go to the Democratic National Convention of
my old stomping grounds of the United Center where I
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made a couple of big time shots back in the day,
and I'm going to tell people that, just like Steph
Curry would say, we're going to put Donald Trump night night,
because you know, Steph Curry's thing is the hands and
you fall asleep on your hands kind of thing. That's
his deal. And Steve Kurr did that and said Trump
can go night night. Cringe effective. How many people do
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you think are going to vote now or get enthusiastic
about voting Democrat because Steve Kerr showed up and decided
to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I don't know, I don't think. I mean, I have
no idea.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Is that the kind of person that you think moves
the needle whole lot?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, the basketball fan who is generally a political was probably.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Not watching that, is correct. That's a good point. The
people in his realm that might be influenced by his opinion.
Probably do not give a rip about what's happened. They
probably don't even know.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
What's going on.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
The Democratic National could. They probably have no idea what
it is. I mean, I didn't know what it was
until I was in my twenties. It paid close enough
attention to that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
We think about it. Golden State Warriors are kind of
like privatized communism.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Oh boy, I can't wait to hear this theory. I mean,
they are located in the Silicon Valley. Eighty eight percent
of the world's wealth is owned by three companies. Well,
that's just an NBA thing, isn't it. It's mostly the
NBA and not necessarily just a Golden State Warriors thing.
The NBA kind of is trying to combat things like
the Golden State Warriors. Tom by the way says, don't
forget big Will Purdue. Oh, good white guy from those
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Bulls teams. I do not want to forget. That guy
had a go tee if I remember correctly. Yeah, John Paxson,
remember him from the early Bulls teams?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Sure who else? Who else?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Who else was in there? Or early Jordan teams. Dave Corsine,
remember Dave Corsine.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Dave Corsine.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Oh yeah, there's a big guy for you. I don't
know what are we doing. This is awesome. I don't
even know what we're talking about anymore. Anyway, whatever you
want to talk about, you can talk with us. We
went in like eight different directions there. If you just
want to like call in to name some random white
guys that played for the Chicago Bulls, I guess we
could do that too. You can call use it forth
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ten kfab.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Elrie's song on news radio eleven.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Ten kfab Mike, you got something on this for me? Hello, Mike, Nope,
audios Mike. So yeah, how does it happen? Because now
you're going to drop the call, and then Mike's gonna
call right back and be able to talk to us.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I'll put him back on hold and see if he's
still there. Maybe he had his mic muted. Sometimes that
happens when people are on hold for a little bit,
they mute their mic. Yeah, don't do that on their phone.
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I can't hear what you got going on unless you
literally think that I'm going to call on you and
then you're not gonna be ready to talk to me,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, because then at that
point that could be embarrassing. I could turn your mic
on and the phone on and you'd be talking to
somebody else.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Maybe best not the call.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
If you're like doing something else, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't want to accidentally expose whatever, like backroom dealings
you got going on.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Speaking of which, a guy called yesterday. It must have
been a pocket dial, but he was in a heated
discussion with somebody. I thought he was talking to me.
At first, I was like, what's happening right now? It was,
but it was two different people going back and forth. Oh,
I don't even know. Plenty of you might be called
to be a witness if something, you know, comes out
of that. Yeah, let's hope not.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Mike number two is on a phone line because there's
two mics on the line, because you just never know.
Yesterday was like six marks, got some mics today, Mike,
what do you got for me today?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yes, Harry, Hey, great, Hey, was listening to the commentary
from the last half hour about the DNC. Yeah, and
you know the observation I have is that you know,
for the longest time that the Democratic Party has been
playing chess and the Republican Party has been playing checkers.
You know, the Republican Party is worried about the next election,
and the Democratic Party, meanwhile, for the last twenty thirty years,
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has been seizing control of major institutions in this country.
You can talk about primary education, secondary education, you know,
the media, Hollywood, you know, the immigration system. I can
go on and on and on. But once you seize
those large you control those large institutions, the elections become
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really a foregone conclusion. They've become a you know, an
exercise in just you know, the process. And so until
and unless the Republican Party realizes that, I think, you know,
there's a strong likelihood that they're they're going to have
a long time in the in the into wilderness before
they see the White House again.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Well, Mike, I kind of I just want to I
want to follow up on that. So, well, what can
they do at this stage of the game to turn
the tide, because that's not something that you can change overnight.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
No, certainly you can't change you can't change this overnight.
I mean, it is what it is, right now they've
got to do the best with what they've got. I
think they have to. I think they have to focus
on on policy differences and on substance and not on
a personal attacks and personalities. I think, you know, if
they have any chance at all of winning this election,
but I think I think it may be. I think
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it may be too late for this go round.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, very well. I mean, I guess the proof will
be in the putting in November. I also know that,
you know, we've kind of set ourselves up both sides
to say, hey, if we lose or there's going to
be one hundred different excuses as to why that happens.
So it'll be interesting to see what the reaction to
that is and how that might have a ripple effect
into the way the next generation views these two political
parties because a lot of that work is being done
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to people who aren't an eligible to vote yet. Right,
they're just kind of being indoctrinating is kind of a
dangerous word. I don't always like to use that word,
but that's I mean, that's kind of what's happening. They're
preparing these fifteen sixteen year olds to be Democrats as
soon as they're eligible to vote, and it's working. That's
why they win the younger vote pretty much every single time. Mike,
thanks for the call. This is good.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
The other Mike's still still there. I heard you trying
to wake him up.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah he's he's there, so we can try him again.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
All right, Mike. On a completely different note, are you
there now?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
There he is?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You wanted to talk about some basketball for me?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, you know Baylor Shireman, a Baylor old Baylor Creighton
blue Jay.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yes, sir, he's.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
From Aroara in Nebraska before Baylor Shireman back in the seventies.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Or a guy named Tom Crop.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I don't know that Tom Crop.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
He would have could have went pros and football and basketball.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
He played for the Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Now we're talking.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
There's some old school You got some listeners. All right,
there we go. That's the kind of throwback I want
this show to be about.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Thanks for the call.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
You bet have a good one.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah you too. How about that got Ron on the
phone line?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Ron, you will pick up what he's putting down about
the Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
I wondering if you heard of the Nebraska guy Kid
that he went through college. He was supposed to go
to Nebraska, he didn't like it, went transferred to Carney,
played four years apart basketball and football at Carney, and
then when he came out of there, he got drafted
by the Chicago Bulls and the Pittsburgh Steelers. He shows
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the Bulls.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah is that name?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah? Is that Tom Crop?
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Yeah? Tom Crop?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So so literally, as you called in, we had Mike
explain that that as well. That is an interesting story.
So so Nebraska ties to our Chicago Bulls. White guy
conversation here on the show today. That's good. Hey, Ron,
thanks for the intro. That's it's pretty cool. I don't
know how many guys actually can say they were drafted
by two different sports teams at that level, but that's
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pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Thanks for the call.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
You bet.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Let's say you get drafted.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
By an NBA team who's generally terrible and in an
NFL team who's generally terrible.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Which one do you pick? NBA all the way?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, it's neck and neck, but I would say I
like basketball better. But that's not really the reason. Two
reasons one more money, there's less players, and there's so
there's more money to go around, so that'll probably be
paid better. Yeah, unless you were like an All star
quarterback or something. Yeah, and I'd probably come away in
much better physical condition at the end of my retirement.
That's the end of my playing. Credt that.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's probably also true. It's also probably true. Got a
little bit of Iowa connection here. Cheston says, don't forget
about Bobby Hanson.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Bobby Hanson. You don't know Bobby Hanson.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Bobby Hanson was an important factor on a couple of
those Championship Bowls teams in the early nineties, went to
the University of Iowa. Also is currently the color commentator
for the Iowa Hawkeye basketball games. Okay, for radio or
my sister station's over there in the Hawkeye Radio network.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
So yeah, So he gets an up close and personal
view of Fran McCaffrey's oh yeah situation.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh boy, Yeah, those broadcasters in Fran have not had
a good time.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Friend.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Fran doesn't have a lot of friends in general. But well,
you know, he's like the winningest guy in the history
of Iowa men's basketball now, so right, for whatever that's worth,
is he okay though?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Fran? Yeah, okay for what, I don't know. He just
seems upset. He's always upset exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, I mean, I haven't had any personal interactions with
fran I've talked to like Kirk Farns a few times.
He's there's nothing like you want to talk about the
personality of a wet blanket. But then again, you know
he knows he's talking to the media. He can't give
you anything.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
So there you go. If you got some thoughts.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I don't even know how we're getting I don't I
have no idea how we're like the rabbit hole we're
going through, but we're talking to the DNC. We're talking
about all different things. If you got thoughts, he can
call us. Phone lines are open four two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten, even if you just wanted to talk to
us about why guys who played for the Bulls, which
out of context, makes absolutely no sense as to why
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It was Steve Kerr actually who made the appearance over
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Speaker 2 (25:22):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, so you can find Bill Winnington instead of where
of the red Beard. Now he's just got a gray
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And Maurice Sunger on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I want to know what happened? Can we do a
little presidential history real quick?
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Matt?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Can you can you help me out? Let me know
what we've had back to back on presidents. Okay, so
the current president is Joe Biden, who's a Democrat, right,
then Democrat? And then who was the previous president? Donald Trump?
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Wriy.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
He was a Republican, right, and then the guy before
that was a Democrat that was Barack Obama. And the
guy before him was a Republican which is George W.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Bush.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And the guy before him was a Democrat which was Clinton.
And then the guy before him was Republican that was
George H. W.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Bush.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Now here's where it gets a little tricky, because Ronald
Reagan had eight awesome years and people thought, hey, we
want more of that. So Bush had four years after
Reagan had eight. That was twelve straight years of Republicans.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Before Reagan, it was a Democrat, Jimmy Carter. Before that,
it was Gerald Ford, but only because he took over
for Nixon in the middle of his second term. Ford
wasn't actually elected to be President of the United States.
Before Nixon, it was Lyndon B. Johnson, but he was
in office. He did get elected once, but he took
over for a Democrat who couldn't finish his term, which
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was John F.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
The previous election before that that a guy won was
a Republican. That was Eisenhower. Before that it was a
Democrat which was Harry Truman, and Hugh became the president
the first time because of Franklin Delano Roosevelt passing away
while in office. Who was a Democrat. Before that, it
was Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolich and Warren Harding who
were all Republicans. I'm back one hundred years now. I'm
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back one hundred years now of people from different political parties,
and it's never really been a run of them, one
after another after another after another after another. Sometimes he
had a guy like fdr who won multiple elections. Now
that there's a constitutional amendment that prevents somebody from doing that.
There has been the one time, which is the best
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example of Reagan having eight strong years, and people in
America in the late eighties said, you know what, we
still would like to have that kind of president. We
still would like to have a Republican. But it didn't
work the same way, and they replaced him with an
eight year long Democrat. And it's been going back and
forth ever since, basically my entire life. So I don't
(28:02):
I kind of reject the notion that Republicans haven't been
on equal footing as far as the way that we
perceive the political parties these days. I think the difference
is that Democrats know how to use the new technology
and the new social media aspect better than the Republicans.
Do they know how to reach children better than the
Republicans do. You can say that that's a bad thing
all you want. It's the game. I can't remember who
(28:24):
I was talking about it. I might have been Trump himself.
There's somebody that's talking to We have to start, if
you're a conservative, you have to start thinking we have
to play the game the way they're playing it if
we're gonna ever win, Because If one of you is
playing badminton and the other one is playing soccer, and
the game that we're being played that is being played
is badminton, you're gonna lose. You shut up with the
wrong equipment, you're not ready for the same sport. You
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have to understand what they're doing, and you have to
fight that fire with fire. Now, I'm not talking to
like get into political arguments and raise heck about stuff.
I'm saying strategically, the way that they're reaching the college kids, strategically,
the way that they're able to get policy and push
it on the back burner with frequency and still find
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a way to communicate to people in a way that
makes them want to vote for them. Most people under
the age of forty, I would guess, I don't have
actual information about this. Most people under the age of
forty that want to vote Democrat aren't thinking about policies.
If they are, it's like one policy and that's mostly
abortion and what they would consider abortion rights or health rights.
(29:26):
And I know I'm gonna get corrected in the email.
Somebody's going to say there's not a right to get
an abortion. Okay, I get that. I get that. Do
you think Anybody who's voting left because of that cares
you're not playing the same game they are, and that's
why there's a chance that Republicans are left in the
back burner.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Donald Trump has made Republicans relevant in a completely different
way than say the Republicans that were leaders of the past,
somebody like Ted Cruzer, Mark Ruby. It would have been
a more traditional selection in the twenty sixteen election if
we went to additional route, but politics and people bored.
People didn't feel like the politicians were looking out for them.
(30:05):
Donald Trump changed that. He deserves a ton of credit
for the way that people are looking at this as well. However,
the game changes, and you have to be able to
adjust the way you're playing the game if you want
to win. So I kind of reject the notion that
the Republicans aren't relevant. I just don't think they're playing
on the same playing field. Not that the Democrats are right,
(30:26):
but they're playing the game better than they that the
Republicans are. And that's continuing at the DNC.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
This week.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
We'll have more on this, and I got a really
fun conversation to have next on news Radio eleven to
ten kfab
Matt Case, What would you do if you were the
producer of this situation over here. I know you're a
radio guy but not a TV guy. But what would
you do? Would you dump this this lunatic out of
the way so we could listen to Donald Trump? Or
you just let him continue with his analysis?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You know what I would do? What I would dump
my TV in a fish tank and go for a walk.
That wasn't You're the producer, You're in the truck. You
can't just like, can't just do that? Oh well, then
I'll have to recalibrate, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Well, recalibration is probably not a bad thing at this
point anyway, if I was going to listen to what
he had to say, But the talking heads are just
dominating the conversation. Can we start there? Can we start
there for a second?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
How valuable are pundits zero? Well, especially in this scenario, right,
like like political political pundits, like they have to make
a living, but you'd think they could do something else
besides tell us stuff from a specific angle, like tell
me the strategies, tell me the ins and the outs,
and said, there's talking about policies, like I know how
(01:03):
to think about this stuff. Why are you dominated? Like,
why are you telling me what I should be thinking.
That's one thing I try not to do on this
show is tell you what you should think. I'll tell
you what I think. So who, I don't know? Pundit's
zero value and it's not zero, it's not absolute zero.
What is the Who was the first? Like, like, who's
the first?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Pundit? Pundit? Who was the first pundit? The very first
of any kind? Yeah, the very first pundit.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It sounds like a question for Chad gpt Who was
the first pundit? Who was the first pundit? The answer
is It Originally comes from the Sanskrit word pandita, which
referred to a learned scholar or expert, particularly in Indian
philosophy or religion, in modern sense referring to a commentator
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or expert. It evolved in the seventeenth century, and one
of the earliest figures considered a pundit in this context
was an English writer and physician named Sir Thomas Brown
Brown with an E. He wrote extensively on a variety
of subjects, offering insightful commentary on contemporary issues, which aligns
with the modern understanding of a pundit as someone who
provides expert analysis and opinion. The answer to your question,
(02:12):
Sir Thomas Brown, thank you chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, at least now we know who to blame.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well to him that blamed it was a second guy,
he was like, yeah, I could do that. That's true.
It was a second guy. He probably was like, you know,
actually that's not a bad idea.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
If I just tell people my opinions matter, maybe they'll
believe me.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So, Sir Thomas Brown, by the way, born October nineteenth,
sixteen oh five in London, died October nineteenth, sixteen eighty two.
He died on his birth and his seventy seventh birthday.
Poor guy seventy seven is a long time back then, though,
I mean he had a good run anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I wonder if he died like during his birthday party.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I don't think the threw parties in He probably to
be honest, he probably had no idea. He didn't even
know it was his birthday. Yeah, well, actually he probably did.
He lived in England in a time where England was
like recording things pretty religiously. There were recording things that
were happening in the letters that they have. They still
have the letters of the guys from Jamestown in the
time period when he was born, so they were recording
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things pretty well. He probably knew it was his birthday.
He just happened to die on it. Anyway, that's the guy. Anyway.
Can you take a listen? Is he talking now? Are
we listening to him?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Now? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
All right, fire away, here's Donald Trump in Michigan.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Violent crime.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I'll bet the people behind me don't have anything like that.
Just gets better, it doesn't get worse, including a fifty
eight percent increase in rape, eighty nine percent increase in
aggravated assault, and a fifty six percent increase in robbery.
The crime in America, the factors is out of control.
I watched last night in amazement as they tried to
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pretend that everything was great. The crime was great, the
border was great. There wasn't a problem at all, No inflation,
no nothing. There has been a report the job numbers
over the last period of time were fraudulent. They and
I understand that because I know how the job numbers go,
(04:09):
and you want to be a bad person in high office,
you can be a bad person, but the numbers are
going to be revised that the job numbers were far
or less. At nobody's ever seen the six hundred thousand
to a million people less jobs less. And let's see
(04:30):
if that turns out to be true. But that's what
the rumor is. It was reported by a very respected
outfit group, and we'll see what happens. But that's a
terrible insult to our economy because we were seeing numbers
that were okay, not great, but now we're seeing numbers that,
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when they're adjusted, are a disaster.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
But crime in America is out of control.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm going to make it, along with the economy, inflation, voters,
and energy dominance my top priority. I'm including crime in America.
You know, normally that's done locally, and we're going to
give the local people a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Of help like I did.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
All Right, that's Donald Trump in Michigan. Just a little taste.
He's talking about crime because he's in Howell, Michigan, Michigan,
a state that is notorious, especially around the Detroit area,
for having some real issues with crime in the last
few decades. Yeah, yesterday Joe Biden was the chief speaker.
But did you see who el spoke. I want to
(05:35):
talk about more Biden. Biden what he said, it was
in honor of his life. Before we talk about who
Elle spoke. What do you think that feels like? Is
it is?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
It?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Is it like a elderly head football coach basically fired
from a job or parting ways mutually, if you want
to believe that, and not knowing whether or not there's
anything left for him after that. Bill Belichick, for example.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Reminds me of a Norm McDonald joke. Hit me as
long as you know, there's no curse words. She actually
outlived Norm m MacDonald. So he was reading a headline he said,
Barbara Walters announces her retirement. What's next for old Babs death?
(06:23):
She's outlived him, but yeah, rest in peace?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Norm?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Norman, Well, I just I wonder, right, like, what, let's
forget the politics for a second. What do you think
it felt like for him to go on that stage
everything that we know it was not his choice to
get out of this race. He's still the president through
the end of the year where January twentieth more specifically, right, yeah,
(06:48):
what what would that feeling be like to go there
and hat in hand basically say hey, thank you for
all your support. It's been the honor of my life
to be your president. Now here's a couple of things
you can take with you as you go on without me,
You pieces of crap.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
He didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I got to imagine that there was a challenge to
him being like, yeah, all you people that also basically
were like, hey, get out of the way, grandpa. You
can take these two words and take it back where
it came from. He also didn't say that, but I
kind of wish he would have.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
They gave it to him and then they took it away.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, and this is the thing. They waited until that.
Everything was fine and peachy until that debate. It was
just peachy until the debate. But then once that was exposed,
it's like, this is what he is.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Then all of a sudden they're just like, oh wait
a second. Now the American public know know all the
secrets we've been hiding from them. He can possibly win. Well,
you got to get him out of hair. And then
they like hire Clooney to do that. Oh did I
say that out loud? Hire Clooney to do the op ed?
They didn't hire him. Might as well have, though, because
he's a guy that's in charge of a lot of
their fundraising. You know why, because he's in influential Hollywood.
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What do they say, mediaite, mediaite, socialite, that's it. Socialite.
He's a socialite.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
He's a yeah, a socialite.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
He's a socialite. Yeah, I don't know. And they had
all these different congress people coming out of the woodwork
saying he can't win and we need someone new. And
then I mean, and he's on the campaign trail until
he gets COVID nineteen. Remember he was doing the NATO thing.
He did the press conference that wasn't like super horrendous.
(08:32):
We didn't learn as much as we would have liked to,
but you know, at least he took questions for an
hour or so.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But then he got COVID.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And then they trapped him in a room, probably all
wearing their fifteen ninety five masks and all that stuff,
to show him all the poll numbers right to his
face so he couldn't avoid him. And they're like, dude,
you're gonna lose. Just get out of the way. It'll
save you the trouble and at least give us a
fighting chance in November. Or they held him at gunpoint.
We don't know that either. They're not really the gun
(08:58):
wheeled and tight. But you know what I mean, I
wonder what the emotions were for a guy of that age.
This is the same type of person that is going
to fight you when you have to take the keys
from them and tell them they shouldn't be driving anymore.
Right They're going to be surly about it, rightly, So
you're taking away some of the dignities that they've had
in their life. And he's got to go up there
and act like everything's good. And by the way, you
(09:19):
guys are awesome. Support the people behind me, these people
that you haven't voted for one single time in this
industry for this job, not once, but go ahead and
vote for him because they don't like me anymore. He
pieces a crap. You didn't say that either, but you
know what I mean, I would be I would have
been embittered by that. I would have been very embittered.
(09:41):
He's had a few weeks to ruminate on it and
probably put himself to pull himself together to leave with
as much dignity as he can. A bunch of people
holding up to thank you Joe signs, which you know
that wasn't staged at all. Things have not been great
in America in a lot of different ways. It's interesting
to watch them try to turn all of that into
a net positive somehow by completely ignoring the policies, ignoring
(10:06):
the situation within the policies. They just are not acknowledging
them at all. And they have distracted us legitimately with
the Biden thing. They've distracted us legitimate with the Walls thing.
They're distracting us with the pointing the fingers at Trump
and in advance and talking about how terrible they are
about different things and all that stuff, and less and
less people who are in the middle are asking all
(10:26):
those questions because they see a vibrant face like Kamala Harris,
who is such a stark contrast from what they have
been seeing with Joe Biden. It's an all time psychological move,
and nobody's talking about the policies of it.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Nobody.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It's crazy to me, Well, I am right now, but
you know what I mean. You're figuring out what I'm
putting there. You smell them when I'm stepping in.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah. It certainly has raised a whole lot of more
questions than we have answers too.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And they're not going to give you answers. That's the thing,
because nobody's going to make them give an answer, because
they're still going to have enough people in there to
make it look like they're having a jovial celebration about
all the great things that are happening in America right now,
even though every single thing that they say is great
is completely light about and manufactured to make them seem
better so they can win in November. That's politics for you,
straight up. It couldn't have worked out better for him either. No, No,
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the timing's perfect. That's perfectly perfect. You could literally talk
to them and like have lined this out. It wouldn't
have timed itself more perfect than it did for them,
right at the right time for them to get enough
momentum right before the election in early voting, not too
much time to where a bunch of stuff could get
poked holes into. It's just the right amount of time.
It's insane, and the Republicans had already played all their hands,
(11:34):
including the JD Vans play if they didn't plan it,
because I'm not so sure that Biden was not on board.
It was pretty clear he wasn't on board with anything
that was happening, but you could not have planned the
timing better.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Straight up, you got thoughts on it?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Call us four h two five five eight, eleven ten,
two twenty on news radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Oh, nice song. You Won't go to College? On news
radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Is it your eighth anniversary because you've been together eight years?
Or is it really your seventh anniversary because your first
anniversary isn't until a year after you got married? You
picking up what I'm putting down there. Time is relative. Honestly,
I have no idea. It's probably still your eighth anniversary, right.
Who's to say if you said seventh anniversary, people would
be like that you've been together seven years. No, I've
(12:24):
been together eight years. We've just celebrated seven anniversaries.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
My head hurt. Did you see Steve.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Kerr at the DNC last night? I did not Steve
Kerr tell the people what Steve Kurse famous for. He
was that white guy on the bulls, Judd Bushler, Bill Weddington,
Luke Longley. Okay, that were Tony kuh coach. Don't forget
Tony ku coach.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh that's funny. There was a bunch of them. I
guess if you think.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
About yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you're not gonna see that.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And do you remember that Bulls team after Jordan left,
they were led by Kup coach. Yeah no, not a
dumpster fire. The second best player was Cornell David those
video games overall, another noted white guy Cornell David by
the way, Yeah no, no. Steve Kerr, blonde white guy Arizona.
(13:27):
Great broadcaster after he got done though, right Like, I
loved him on the broadcasts, and then he did the
GM thing with the Suns for a few years that
didn't go well. He was the GM for the Suns
while Steve Nash was there and they got shack and
all that stuff, and.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
He didn't go well. And then he went back to
broadcasting after a few years. Still was awesome in the booth,
loved it. And then at the height of I don't know,
like something changed where Phil Jackson had taken over the
Knicks and there was this whole thing is Steve Kerr
was going to like potentially be the next head coach
of the New York Knicks's by no coaching experience, and
then he just kind of decided to coach the Warriors
(14:04):
who worked a little bit better position for the future. Obviously,
we found out that was the right move because they
won the championship in his first year. But anyway, he's
had quite an eclectic basketball career. But in recent years,
Old Stevie has gotten a little bit more outspoken about
his political viewpoints, especially on things like gun control.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
His father was.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Killed and murdered in Europe. His dad like teaching in
other places around the world. He's got a very interesting
kind of story with his childhood, and I'm not going
to pretend like I know what that's like. But with
each in every mass shooting that has happened in America,
Steve Kurr has been a very outspoken advocate for gun
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control and he gets very emotional about it. I was surprised, though,
fresh off of Squeak ping out a gold medal as
the head coach of USA Basketball, which, by the way,
what a coaching staff. His top two assistants were Eric
Spolstra of the Heat and ty Taran Lou from the
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Clippers Nebraska legend. By the way, tarn Lou, those are
the three coaches. Those are two assistants. And then Steve
Kurr was the head coach. They barely win the gold medal,
barely survived Serbia. Remember that that was a heck of
a game. But then he comes back first stop. Now
we're not getting ready for the NBA season or anything.
I'm going to go to the Democratic National Convention of
my old stomping grounds of the United Center where I
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made a couple of big time shots back in the day,
and I'm going to tell people that, just like Steph
Curry would say, we're going to put Donald Trump night night,
because you know, Steph Curry's thing is the hands and
you fall asleep on your hands kind of thing. That's
his deal. And Steve Kurr did that and said Trump
can go night night. Cringe effective. How many people do
(15:56):
you think are going to vote now or get enthusiastic
about voting Democrat because Steve Kerr showed up and decided
to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I don't know, I don't think. I mean, I have
no idea.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Is that the kind of person that you think moves
the needle whole lot?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, the basketball fan who is generally a political was probably.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Not watching that, is correct. That's a good point. The
people in his realm that might be influenced by his opinion.
Probably do not give a rip about what's happened. They
probably don't even know.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
What's going on.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
The Democratic National could. They probably have no idea what
it is. I mean, I didn't know what it was
until I was in my twenties. It paid close enough
attention to that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
We think about it. Golden State Warriors are kind of
like privatized communism.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Oh boy, I can't wait to hear this theory. I mean,
they are located in the Silicon Valley. Eighty eight percent
of the world's wealth is owned by three companies. Well,
that's just an NBA thing, isn't it. It's mostly the
NBA and not necessarily just a Golden State Warriors thing.
The NBA kind of is trying to combat things like
the Golden State Warriors. Tom by the way says, don't
forget big Will Purdue. Oh, good white guy from those
(17:00):
Bulls teams. I do not want to forget. That guy
had a go tee if I remember correctly. Yeah, John Paxson,
remember him from the early Bulls teams?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Sure who else? Who else?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Who else was in there? Or early Jordan teams. Dave Corsine,
remember Dave Corsine.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Dave Corsine.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Oh yeah, there's a big guy for you. I don't
know what are we doing. This is awesome. I don't
even know what we're talking about anymore. Anyway, whatever you
want to talk about, you can talk with us. We
went in like eight different directions there. If you just
want to like call in to name some random white
guys that played for the Chicago Bulls, I guess we
could do that too. You can call use it forth
to five to five eight eleven ten News Radio eleven
(17:37):
ten kfab.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Elrie's song on news radio eleven.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Ten kfab Mike, you got something on this for me? Hello, Mike, Nope,
audios Mike. So yeah, how does it happen? Because now
you're going to drop the call, and then Mike's gonna
call right back and be able to talk to us.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I'll put him back on hold and see if he's
still there. Maybe he had his mic muted. Sometimes that
happens when people are on hold for a little bit,
they mute their mic. Yeah, don't do that on their phone.
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I can't hear what you got going on unless you
literally think that I'm going to call on you and
then you're not gonna be ready to talk to me,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, because then at that
point that could be embarrassing. I could turn your mic
on and the phone on and you'd be talking to
somebody else.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Maybe best not the call.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
If you're like doing something else, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't want to accidentally expose whatever, like backroom dealings
you got going on.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Speaking of which, a guy called yesterday. It must have
been a pocket dial, but he was in a heated
discussion with somebody. I thought he was talking to me.
At first, I was like, what's happening right now? It was,
but it was two different people going back and forth. Oh,
I don't even know. Plenty of you might be called
to be a witness if something, you know, comes out
of that. Yeah, let's hope not.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Mike number two is on a phone line because there's
two mics on the line, because you just never know.
Yesterday was like six marks, got some mics today, Mike,
what do you got for me today?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yes, Harry, Hey, great, Hey, was listening to the commentary
from the last half hour about the DNC. Yeah, and
you know the observation I have is that you know,
for the longest time that the Democratic Party has been
playing chess and the Republican Party has been playing checkers.
You know, the Republican Party is worried about the next election,
and the Democratic Party, meanwhile, for the last twenty thirty years,
(19:23):
has been seizing control of major institutions in this country.
You can talk about primary education, secondary education, you know,
the media, Hollywood, you know, the immigration system. I can
go on and on and on. But once you seize
those large you control those large institutions, the elections become
(19:43):
really a foregone conclusion. They've become a you know, an
exercise in just you know, the process. And so until
and unless the Republican Party realizes that, I think, you know,
there's a strong likelihood that they're they're going to have
a long time in the in the into wilderness before
they see the White House again.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Well, Mike, I kind of I just want to I
want to follow up on that. So, well, what can
they do at this stage of the game to turn
the tide, because that's not something that you can change overnight.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
No, certainly you can't change you can't change this overnight.
I mean, it is what it is, right now they've
got to do the best with what they've got. I
think they have to. I think they have to focus
on on policy differences and on substance and not on
a personal attacks and personalities. I think, you know, if
they have any chance at all of winning this election,
but I think I think it may be. I think
(20:34):
it may be too late for this go round.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, very well. I mean, I guess the proof will
be in the putting in November. I also know that,
you know, we've kind of set ourselves up both sides
to say, hey, if we lose or there's going to
be one hundred different excuses as to why that happens.
So it'll be interesting to see what the reaction to
that is and how that might have a ripple effect
into the way the next generation views these two political
parties because a lot of that work is being done
(20:59):
to people who aren't an eligible to vote yet. Right,
they're just kind of being indoctrinating is kind of a
dangerous word. I don't always like to use that word,
but that's I mean, that's kind of what's happening. They're
preparing these fifteen sixteen year olds to be Democrats as
soon as they're eligible to vote, and it's working. That's
why they win the younger vote pretty much every single time. Mike,
thanks for the call. This is good.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
The other Mike's still still there. I heard you trying
to wake him up.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah he's he's there, so we can try him again.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
All right, Mike. On a completely different note, are you
there now?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
There he is?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You wanted to talk about some basketball for me?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, you know Baylor Shireman, a Baylor old Baylor Creighton
blue Jay.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yes, sir, he's.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
From Aroara in Nebraska before Baylor Shireman back in the seventies.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Or a guy named Tom Crop.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I don't know that Tom Crop.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
He would have could have went pros and football and basketball.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
He played for the Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Now we're talking.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
There's some old school You got some listeners. All right,
there we go. That's the kind of throwback I want
this show to be about.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Thanks for the call.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
You bet have a good one.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah you too. How about that got Ron on the
phone line?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Ron, you will pick up what he's putting down about
the Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
I wondering if you heard of the Nebraska guy Kid
that he went through college. He was supposed to go
to Nebraska, he didn't like it, went transferred to Carney,
played four years apart basketball and football at Carney, and
then when he came out of there, he got drafted
by the Chicago Bulls and the Pittsburgh Steelers. He shows
(22:34):
the Bulls.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah is that name?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah? Is that Tom Crop?
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Yeah? Tom Crop?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So so literally, as you called in, we had Mike
explain that that as well. That is an interesting story.
So so Nebraska ties to our Chicago Bulls. White guy
conversation here on the show today. That's good. Hey, Ron,
thanks for the intro. That's it's pretty cool. I don't
know how many guys actually can say they were drafted
by two different sports teams at that level, but that's
(23:00):
pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Thanks for the call.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
You bet.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Let's say you get drafted.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
By an NBA team who's generally terrible and in an
NFL team who's generally terrible.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Which one do you pick? NBA all the way?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, it's neck and neck, but I would say I
like basketball better. But that's not really the reason. Two
reasons one more money, there's less players, and there's so
there's more money to go around, so that'll probably be
paid better. Yeah, unless you were like an All star
quarterback or something. Yeah, and I'd probably come away in
much better physical condition at the end of my retirement.
That's the end of my playing. Credt that.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's probably also true. It's also probably true. Got a
little bit of Iowa connection here. Cheston says, don't forget
about Bobby Hanson.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Bobby Hanson. You don't know Bobby Hanson.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Bobby Hanson was an important factor on a couple of
those Championship Bowls teams in the early nineties, went to
the University of Iowa. Also is currently the color commentator
for the Iowa Hawkeye basketball games. Okay, for radio or
my sister station's over there in the Hawkeye Radio network.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
So yeah, So he gets an up close and personal
view of Fran McCaffrey's oh yeah situation.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh boy, Yeah, those broadcasters in Fran have not had
a good time.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Friend.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Fran doesn't have a lot of friends in general. But well,
you know, he's like the winningest guy in the history
of Iowa men's basketball now, so right, for whatever that's worth,
is he okay though?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Fran? Yeah, okay for what, I don't know. He just
seems upset. He's always upset exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, I mean, I haven't had any personal interactions with
fran I've talked to like Kirk Farns a few times.
He's there's nothing like you want to talk about the
personality of a wet blanket. But then again, you know
he knows he's talking to the media. He can't give
you anything.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
So there you go. If you got some thoughts.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I don't even know how we're getting I don't I
have no idea how we're like the rabbit hole we're
going through, but we're talking to the DNC. We're talking
about all different things. If you got thoughts, he can
call us. Phone lines are open four two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten, even if you just wanted to talk to
us about why guys who played for the Bulls, which
out of context, makes absolutely no sense as to why
we were. This hour radio brought to you by Bill Wennington.
(25:12):
It was Steve Kerr actually who made the appearance over
there at You know Bill Willington what he's up to
these days. He's the radio broadcaster, he's the radio color
commentator for the Chicago bulls.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, so you can find Bill Winnington instead of where
of the red Beard. Now he's just got a gray
like Fu Manchu. Look, but yeah, that was a big guy. Anyway,
you can call us four h two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
And Maurice Sunger on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I want to know what happened? Can we do a
little presidential history real quick?
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Matt?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Can you can you help me out? Let me know
what we've had back to back on presidents. Okay, so
the current president is Joe Biden, who's a Democrat, right,
then Democrat? And then who was the previous president? Donald Trump?
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Wriy.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
He was a Republican, right, and then the guy before
that was a Democrat that was Barack Obama. And the
guy before him was a Republican which is George W.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Bush.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And the guy before him was a Democrat which was Clinton.
And then the guy before him was Republican that was
George H. W.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Bush.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Now here's where it gets a little tricky, because Ronald
Reagan had eight awesome years and people thought, hey, we
want more of that. So Bush had four years after
Reagan had eight. That was twelve straight years of Republicans.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Before Reagan, it was a Democrat, Jimmy Carter. Before that,
it was Gerald Ford, but only because he took over
for Nixon in the middle of his second term. Ford
wasn't actually elected to be President of the United States.
Before Nixon, it was Lyndon B. Johnson, but he was
in office. He did get elected once, but he took
over for a Democrat who couldn't finish his term, which
(26:57):
was John F.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
The previous election before that that a guy won was
a Republican. That was Eisenhower. Before that it was a
Democrat which was Harry Truman, and Hugh became the president
the first time because of Franklin Delano Roosevelt passing away
while in office. Who was a Democrat. Before that, it
was Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolich and Warren Harding who
were all Republicans. I'm back one hundred years now. I'm
(27:19):
back one hundred years now of people from different political parties,
and it's never really been a run of them, one
after another after another after another after another. Sometimes he
had a guy like fdr who won multiple elections. Now
that there's a constitutional amendment that prevents somebody from doing that.
There has been the one time, which is the best
(27:41):
example of Reagan having eight strong years, and people in
America in the late eighties said, you know what, we
still would like to have that kind of president. We
still would like to have a Republican. But it didn't
work the same way, and they replaced him with an
eight year long Democrat. And it's been going back and
forth ever since, basically my entire life. So I don't
(28:02):
I kind of reject the notion that Republicans haven't been
on equal footing as far as the way that we
perceive the political parties these days. I think the difference
is that Democrats know how to use the new technology
and the new social media aspect better than the Republicans.
Do they know how to reach children better than the
Republicans do. You can say that that's a bad thing
all you want. It's the game. I can't remember who
(28:24):
I was talking about it. I might have been Trump himself.
There's somebody that's talking to We have to start, if
you're a conservative, you have to start thinking we have
to play the game the way they're playing it if
we're gonna ever win, Because If one of you is
playing badminton and the other one is playing soccer, and
the game that we're being played that is being played
is badminton, you're gonna lose. You shut up with the
wrong equipment, you're not ready for the same sport. You
(28:45):
have to understand what they're doing, and you have to
fight that fire with fire. Now, I'm not talking to
like get into political arguments and raise heck about stuff.
I'm saying strategically, the way that they're reaching the college kids, strategically,
the way that they're able to get policy and push
it on the back burner with frequency and still find
(29:06):
a way to communicate to people in a way that
makes them want to vote for them. Most people under
the age of forty, I would guess, I don't have
actual information about this. Most people under the age of
forty that want to vote Democrat aren't thinking about policies.
If they are, it's like one policy and that's mostly
abortion and what they would consider abortion rights or health rights.
(29:26):
And I know I'm gonna get corrected in the email.
Somebody's going to say there's not a right to get
an abortion. Okay, I get that. I get that. Do
you think Anybody who's voting left because of that cares
you're not playing the same game they are, and that's
why there's a chance that Republicans are left in the
back burner.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Donald Trump has made Republicans relevant in a completely different
way than say the Republicans that were leaders of the past,
somebody like Ted Cruzer, Mark Ruby. It would have been
a more traditional selection in the twenty sixteen election if
we went to additional route, but politics and people bored.
People didn't feel like the politicians were looking out for them.
(30:05):
Donald Trump changed that. He deserves a ton of credit
for the way that people are looking at this as well. However,
the game changes, and you have to be able to
adjust the way you're playing the game if you want
to win. So I kind of reject the notion that
the Republicans aren't relevant. I just don't think they're playing
on the same playing field. Not that the Democrats are right,
(30:26):
but they're playing the game better than they that the
Republicans are. And that's continuing at the DNC.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
This week.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
We'll have more on this, and I got a really
fun conversation to have next on news Radio eleven to
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