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All right, it is five twenty one. I'm Emory Songer.
Matt Case is my producer. All right, Matt, TikTok. Did
you download yet? No, I have not. I don't plan to.
I would highly doubt if I ever do, honestly or not,
I'll tell you why. Because while get getting in, while
I'm getting good, getting while they getting good, I am
generally good. I don't really have much generally good. Well,
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what arrogant thing to say? Really generally good? I'm not
acting like I'm above TikTok. I just you know what
it is. Honestly, it's a mental health thing. I just
don't think it's good for me to be sitting around
on these apps wasting my life away. And so I
put it. I put it aside. I think that when
you're driving your car called life, stop looking at the
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stuff inside your car and watch out the windows. You
can see where you're going. And I think that there's
too much clutter in today's world. And so I try
to declutter my space, my mind space and my physical space.
And I just generally try to live my life that way.
And also I do consume TikTok just through YouTube, because
the good stuff gets filtered to me. So yeah, I
am a bit of a king in my own way.
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I get it filtered to me and fed to me
like a grape. That's right. YouTube feeds me little TikTok
grapes while I lay on my couch and do nothing
with one hand in my trousers, as as a king
would do. Yeah, I mean, who doesn't do that Al
Bundy style? Right? Exactly? That's what I'm talking about. YEA
while you could while you consume your beating. He could,
he couldn't. He he was watching pro wrestling while he
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was sitting on a couch having a beer, one hand
in his belt loop. And that's what you do. That's
what you do for some reason, That's just what you do.
It's a man's right of passage. I don't like. I
don't like being on the TikTok And just like like
my wife does the like she'll be looking for something
and then it just the algorithm just keeps feeding her videos. Right,
And that's like the thing, You just keep watching the videos,
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you know what I do? I go to YouTube and
I search for things that I actually want to watch,
and sometimes I then get into like a wormhole through
that that's a completely different style of video that you
usually see, but you can still get those shorties that
are on TikTok. I like having TikTok though, because it
does reach a completely different audience. So like, I post
a video of like my bird feeder, and I get
like a few hundred people that like watch it and
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like it and comment on it and stuff. Nice. I
put a video of a blue jay landing on the
bird feeder, and it sounds like the blue jay lands
really hard, like think but it's actually like my heater
starting in the house. But I don't correct anybody. Oh,
I like it so like so like it timed up.
The blue jay landed at the same time like the
noise that starts my heater landed, so it sounds like
the blue jay lands, and all of a sudden there's
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this like twenty lands. And I have a ton of
comments on TikTok from people I don't know who are
just like, oh, blue jay go THNK right, And it's fun, right,
Like you get a chance to reach out to people
that fall into your algorithm. Yeah, you know. So I
don't know. I guess there's just a little bit of
me and I'm not like if TikTok goes away forever,
it's not gonna affect my life at all. But I
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just because I don't make money on it, Like I
don't have the kind of following, Like I'm a late
I'm late to the game on it, and I don't
make videos like that, you know, not to We're not
going to be coached in the future during our jobs
to like have some sort of presence on that specific
app or an app like it. Yeah, you know what
I would do. I like Snapchat because all the silly filters,
and I would love to just like put a funny
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filter on my face and then leave a really serious
note about a cool guest that you're gonna have coming up.
But I like my face looks like a clown. I
think that's hilarious. You can actually do that on TikTok.
Oh you can. You can, Okay, see I don't really
know anything about TikTok. Yeah you can. You can do
that and put like licensed songs on there and all
sorts of different background filters on there. Yeah that is Yeah,
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that's different. That's a bit of a game changer. I mean,
it would certainly would behoove my career as your producer
to get involved with TikTok. Well, you are on social
media now people can find you. I don't really do
much with it, but not yet, but like you're there,
you have a presence. Hold on, let me go take
a picture of my food. RB. You literally took a
picture of a burned up popcorn ball and put it
on your Facebook and I got some engagement with that
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as well as what I'm saying, you're proving my point,
like somehow through this conversation that you know you actually
are better at social media than you think you are.
You just I'm hearing what you say. But you can
still have the apps without just like scrolling them, like
I have TikTok, and I have it in a spot
where like, uh, explain where it is. It's like right there,
Oh sure, it's so it's a lower to the right
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to the far right, and uh and and and low
and mid lower mid range and what goes there? Usually
with when I'm holding my phone, it's in a thumb spot.
A haha, I'm easy to reach. Thumb spot. What's right
next to it? Location, location, location, what's right next to it?
What's right next to it? Right beneath it is the
iHeartRadio app Boom, So I have it there, but I'll
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be honest with you, I basically open it to post
stuff and I get out of there. I don't really
watch that much on TikTok, so you know, it's just
one of those things that I just I filter it myself.
But I still have it available just in case, you know,
something happens and I decide that I want to do stuff.
But the idea that it could just not be downloadable
after Sunday kind of makes me feel like I'm glad
I have it just in case. That way I can.
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I'll use it for the time being, but I'm not
going to chase all these crazy kids who are jumping
all these other apps like Clapper in Red though it's
not happening. Not interested. You know, I may not be
the oldest guy in the room, but I certainly am
not interested in doing this wild goose chase to try
to catch up to a bunch of twenty year olds.
That's just not happening. But I will say is it
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is fascinating that there are people on both sides of
the aisle that are trying to find a way to
maybe push this and kick this can down the road
a little bit and prevent TikTok from disappearing for the
time being. Even though Byte Dance, the parent company just
does not want to sell it. And let's be honest,
why would theay Like how much would you have to
offer one hundred billion dollars for them to be like, Okay,
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that's good enough. Like they have all the cards, they
have all the cards. You want our app because you
get to talk to a completely new generation of people.
You ban this app up, I guess nobody gets paid.
You ruined this entire ecosystem that we had built up
that you are part of, just because you're afraid of
the Chinese government or the Chinese government's alled not really
alleged they are connected, but the connection the Chinese government
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has to the parent company. Okay, fair enough, But that's
just that's it. That's you willing to lose the ability
to reach this entire generation of one hundred and seventy
million Americans who are on this app. Okay, fine? Could
you call TikTok a modern day or postmodern day version
of the Chinese finger trap because you use your finger
to press on the app and then you get hooked.
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I feel like you made that connection and you wanted
to say it. I did. It's kind of a decent analogy,
but I also just in the last five minutes proved
that to be wrong. It did. And yeah, by saying
I have the app, it's in a thumb spot on
my phone, very easy for me to just click on
it and open it. I don't ever open it unless
I'm posting and then I get the heck out of there.
It doesn't trap me like the finger trapped does. You
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don't feel like you're trapped. I don't. You don't feel
like now they have all your infos so I don't.
I feel very secure and they don't have anything more
than Facebook does. And what's the Chinese government going to
do with my information? I can understand, And like, if
you think this is some sort of major security threat
to our biggest economic challenger, sure, okay whatever. Am I
personally concerned that byte edance and TikTok have my information?
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Am I concerned that Elon has my information, or that
Zuckerberg has my information, or that my employer has my information,
or that anybody who's trying to hack into my employer
has my information. I've already had my taxes stolen from
me once I got my identity stolen as they were
trying to like claim my taxes. With the hacking of
my company, that was a real pain in the behind
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to try to resolve and fix. And I told myself
I would never have that happen again to me. So
I feel pretty secure with the way that we have,
like the cybersecurity plan that I have got, that's good.
That's good to have, you know, but you can do
what you want. Everybody else that's worried about the security
aspect of it, do what you want. I'm just saying,
this is a big ecosystem of social media that could
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be utilized by any political party, any candidate, any business,
any personality, anybody who's looking for it's there for them.
And if they can't figure this thing out, I think
it's you know, I think it's a worse world for it.
To be completely honest with you, we got to take
a break. We'll come back. We're also gonna do a
fun little thing called the Thursday three since I'm not
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gonna be here for our Friday four tomorrow, We'll do
that next coming up on news Radio eleven ten KFAB
Emery Sunger on news Radio eleven ten kfab It's gonna
be a good time. I'll post on social media what
we're up to, so be sure to follow us for that. Okay, okay, okay,
there all over my social media, which you can find
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Emery Songer on Facebook on x Emysnger Radio on Facebook
as well. Any truth to the rumors you're going down
there to, you know, get that old baseball team to
maybe think about Omaha, you know, I would love to
do that, but I'll be honest with you, I don't
even know where to start, Like, who do I talk to?
Try knocking on the stadium door? See who answers the
stadium that has no roof. That's what Dorothy did. She went,
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you know, she just went right up there and knocked
on the door and somebody answered she got in there.
It's kind of crazy. Are you talking? Are you comparing
the Land of Oz to Tropic Canna Field. I'm comparing
your journey to Tropic cana Field to Wizard of Oz.
I feel like there's a lot of similarities there. There
isn't any similarities there. It's zero. Like a house fell
and crushed the Wicked Witch of the East. A hurricane
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crushed the stadium that you're telling me to knock on
the door of to see if I can talk to
somebody and talk them into moving their team to Omaha, Nebraska. Yeah, yeah,
it's not the same. Good try though, Yeah, I don't
even I think I might drive by it. And by
the way, that's in Saint Petersburg, not even in Tampa,
so i'd have to go the opposite direction from the airport,
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away from where I want to go, just to see
this roofless domed stadium, just to say I saw it.
Things are dump. It's been a dump since they built it,
and it's one of those stadiums that got built before
the renaissance of the baseball stadium. So when the stadium
roof fell through, it's tropic Canna Field. So I guess
now you could say that that orange juice has pulp
the stadium falling down onto the fields. That's like the
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pulp to the orange juice. The tarp tarped roof that
ripped because of the hurricane and it fell into the stadium.
It fell in, and that that was the pulp. Now,
now we can't claim that Trapicana Field is a no
pulp stadium anymore pulp? Do you think about these things
before you say them out loud? No, they just come out.
They had come right out of the old, the old
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I don't know what mouth. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't remember
that word. I'm back on the caffeine. If you can't tell,
you had pulp right on the edge tip of your
tongue though. Yeah, okay, well in that scenario, that's great. Hey, Matt,
I was wondering, since it's kind of my Friday, if
we could do this thing called a Thursday three. Yeah,
and I didn't really we didn't really prepare this, but
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I was thinking that you and me could do this,
you know, and you can play along at home. But
I was thinking, can you think of the three most
absurd movie characters that you've ever seen that you actually
secretly kind of like could technically be a television show too? Right,
It's like you are supposed to dislike this person or
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this thing, Oh, but you kind of found yourself just
kind of like not a terrible like, like you kind
of feel for them in a way where you can
relate to them in a way. It's like, eh, not
the worst person. I have a like I was thinking
about this and it comes back to one of my
favorite topics all time, but Airbud, the movie Airbud. You know,
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I'm very opinion about Airbud and how ridiculous it was
that they decided to play a dog in like a
championship game, especially a dog that somehow they had four
dog sized sneakers for him to wear after he unexpectedly
shows up for the championship after he was allegedly abandoned
by the kid he was trying to prevent him from
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being adducted by the clown. Now, the clown guy, he's
a real nasty guy. I mean, they did a heck
of a job making this guy seem like the worst
type of But there were moments in there right like
in like I kind of felt bad for the clown.
Now I wasn't rooting for the clown. And I'm glad
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the clown. You know, spoiler alert, the clown doesn't get
the dog in the end, but the guy who it
does the clown act and all this stuff. There were
moments that I'm just like, this guy's down. Man, this
guy has a terrible life. He has no one around,
he doesn't seem to have any friends, he has this
dog that he's basically employing, but he does know how
to take care of the dog. I think that this
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guy's just really lonely and doesn't have a whole lot
of people in his life, and the dog was what
he had. And the dog runs away, and rightly so,
because the guy is, you know, not a great owner
to him and is somewhat abusive in certain ways and
scares the dog, and the dog ends up having this
ridiculous talent that this guy notices and he wants to
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get his dog back that he deserve the dog. No,
but were there moments in that movie where I was
just kind of like, I'm not so like he's very
villainous in the way they portray, but I feel like
there's more to the story that we need to know
about this character, and I feel kind of bad for him.
That was the genesis of this idea. So when we
come back, how about we try to get a Thursday
three of the villains we actually kind of either relate
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to or fell bad for in movie or television history. Okay,
just a quick list, Okay, Okay, we'll do that coming
back here on news radio eleven ten kfab movie or
TV villains that you actually kind of sympathize with or
agree with, or feel like we're actually, you know, not
as bad as they seemed once you kind of watched
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or maybe rewatched, Matt, what you got for me? Well,
off the fly, I did come up with a couple.
Maybe I can get the three. We'll see the first one.
And I could talk about this forever, because there are
so many fascinating aspects of Jungle Book that now that
I've revisited that movie as an adult and thought back
on it, It's been years since I've watched it, but
I look at it now through adult eyes, and it's
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a really fascinating story. And one part of that story
is well, one of the bad guys in that story
is King Louie. Remember King Louis, So Mowgli goes into
King Louie's court and King Louie is just there trying
to convince Mowgli to teach him something about the ways
of man so that he can learn and so that
he can basically make his empire stronger and better. And
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Bagheira and Bullou are both very much discouraging Mowgli from
being pulled into the fascination of King Louis and and
just staying on his quest, his quest to find other
humans because that's what he wanted to do, and staying
true to his quest. But I sympathize with King Louis
first off, because he's just so fun and I love
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the song he sings. If you want to be a
man man cub any anytime, anytime you can get a
good villain song, Yeah, it kind of Oh boy, it helps,
it does, It helps, And so King Louis is definitely
one for me. But also, have you ever thought about
the vultures of Jungle Book? The vultures themselves? I mean,
not as a villain, but oh yeah, I mean I'm
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gonna posit them as a villain that I don't really
root for. You wouldn't think of them as a villain, though,
would you let me tell you why they are? They
were working. They were working with Shear Khan, I'm sure
of it. Can I tell you why? Okay, why they're vultures?
What do they do? They eat dead things, that's right.
So what were they doing to Mowgli when he was
passing through? What you're saying is they just wanted a
quick meal. They were trying to distract him long enough
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for shear Khan to get there. Remember what they kept
saying to him, No, not that straight up, just distracting
that kid. They were there to distract him for as
long as they could so that Shear Kan could pounce.
That's what those vultures were doing. They were waiting for
their meal. Those two work together. Guaranteed, those vultures are
bad guys, and they're not on my list. But I
just wanted to talk about that because that's a really
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fascinating part of Jungle Book that as a kid, you
don't put together until you're older. Dang, that's that's interesting.
That's interesting. Yeah, you know what, I got a few here.
I'll run through these because I mean that I didn't.
I didn't think animation. You know, you could have go,
you could go with Scar, And in some ways, now
that we know the origin story that Scar, you know,
kind of had his spot taken away from him for
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bloodline wise, he did too from toy story. That's another
kid that I feel like you can find some inroads
of relatability, right, He's just kind of a tortured kid.
I'm gonna go with the Avengers though, kill Monger, who
is the villain of Black Panther, and this is a
I guess it was. Black Panther is a very very
interesting movie, but it's kill Monger's played by Michael B. Jordan.
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Really good acting job by him here. But the explanation
for why he wants to try to kill Challa who
is the Black Panther, is because his dad showed up
and killed kill Monger's dad and he wants to get
revenge and he hates the world that they live in
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in Wakanda, and he just wants to get revenge and
he wants to be the guy in charge, and he
wants to, you know, for the legacy of his family.
And then he ends up just wanting it too bad
and it ends up costing him in the end. But
I mean, you talk about just a guy that otherwise
in any other movie, you're rooting for him because he's
the one that was forsaken in all this. He lost
his dad because of this guy's dad. Yet the guy's
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dad who killed his dad is the one who's the
good guy. Make that make sense? You feel bad for him.
How about Eric from Billy Madison. Now, he's kind of
a jerk and he doesn't like Billy Madison, but of
course he should be the guy that runs the hotel business.
And that's a good point. What are we talking about here?
That is a fantastic point. And they run through this
entire movie just for Billy Madison to somehow work his
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way to winning like this academic decathlon or whatever, only
to just hand over the company to Carl or yeah,
to Carl the assistant, just to keep it away from
Eric because he's a bad guy. I mean, he obviously
was more equipped than Billy Madison to run this hotel.
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But then again, we wouldn't have had one of the
most hilarious and stupid movies of the last forty years,
if you know, it would have been that easy. No
Veronica vaugh either, Oh yeah, I love Veronica von And
then you know, I don't have enough time to get
through this, so I'm just gonna go ahead and go
with the one I already have done the explanation for
Norm Snivelly, that the clown from Air Bud he needed
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some friends. If he would have just had a friend
or two, he wouldn't have been such a terrible person. Anyway,
I'm gonna go to Tampa, Florida. I'll talk to you
guys in a few days. News Radio eleven ten kfab