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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yesterday. We had an incredible conversation though over a few
hours talking about what essentially was Donald Trump's executive order
suggesting that it should be a one year of jail
time for anyone who burns an American flag and they're
not trying to retire it out of protest, right, that's
a completely different thing. Well, I figure who else to
help us? You know, kind of put a punctuation mark
(00:22):
on this conversation. Then my flag guy himself, Tim Lutherland,
with Durable Flags, joining us on the phone line today. Tim,
how's it going man.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good afternoon. I's going great. How about yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Can't complain? Can't complain? Man? We talk about what you
guys do. You're such an interesting company. First, let's talk
about why you're the flag guy and how you got
into the business of flags with your company, Durable Flags.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sure. Well, it started more than twenty years ago out
in Arlington, Nebraska at my wife's grandfather started it, and
then her dad took that over for a number of years,
and about a year and a half ago her and
I took over the company. So it's just a continuation
(01:04):
of a family business and her dad grew considerably, so
we've just been blessed with the local area and really
this whole region with loyal customers.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, well you gave me a flag. Durable Flags dot Com.
By the way, if you want to see all the
different products that they have. With one of those flag
poles that you put in the side of the house,
it's really cool. It's got to spin air on it
so the flag doesn't get tangled up in itself and
things like that, and the flag is really durable, which
is why you guys call yourselves durable flags. But you know,
(01:42):
I didn't. I never owned an American flag to fly
like that before, so it was a bit of you know,
just like you want to make sure that you're flying
it properly. Do people ask you a lot about what
flag etiquette is and what they should or shouldn't do
with this flag.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oftentimes I'll get a question about the proper size flag
for a flag pole, which is typically it's one fifth
of the height of the pole. So if you have
a thirty foot pole, you know, you might do up
to a six by ten flag, but you can sometimes
(02:18):
go a little bit larger, maybe up to a quarter
of the flagpole size. But that really depends on how
strong that pole is you can put a lot of
drag on it, so you don't want it bending on you.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, that's it's a good point. The idea of what
you know, half staff like today, right Donald Trump saying
with the shooting in Minneapolis and just trying to note
that right and just be respectful of the American flag.
One thing is that you know people will talk about
with protests is like the upside down flag or now
(02:49):
we're you know hearing especially this week about flags being
set on fire. Now it is proper etiquette, correct for
you know, a retired flag or an old flag. That's
the way that you would just bose of that. Correct.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yes, typically you'll have a burning ceremony, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yes, so, but in protest it's a completely different thing.
So you know what would be you know what you
would say to someone as a flag guy yourself about
you know what Donald Trump kind of suggested, and you
know the symbol is and not just for an American flag. Honestly,
every single flag that you have is a symbol for something,
whether it's you know, fandom for a team or a
(03:26):
college or anything like that. You know, when you hear
flags be talked about this kind of what's your opinion
and your emotions on it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Absolutely, yes, the American flag, that's definitely a very strong symbol,
you know, obviously much more than say a sports flag.
But it has a lot of meaning to it. There's
the Constitution that it represents and what that means for
our country and what we as our citizens, citizen free
(03:56):
want to accomplish going forward for our own children. So
when you burn the flag out of out of protests,
it's it's obviously it's a very disrespectful thing to do.
I'm not sure what the statistics are that you know,
prompted President Trump to create that executive order. You know
(04:17):
how pervasive that that issue is with being uh well
they put it like a hate speech kind of or
inciting violence when I was reading through that, So I
don't know what those statistics are that would make it
the point where you felt like we needed to have
that law in place. I do recall when I heard that,
(04:40):
the first thing that came to mind was why, you know,
one of the things that we have right here to
do is is uh, I suppose you can be disrespectful
to the flag if you want, doesn't mean you're not
going to get you know, some people maybe bringing you
out back or something U slapping around a little bit.
I don't know, but you don't having a law that
put Jim jail for it. But I was curious where
(05:01):
that was going.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, same, And we spent I mean, if it
makes you feel better, Tim, we spent three hours trying
to figure that out yesterday. So you know, we sat
here and we had dozens of calls coming in of
people with different opinions about you know, is that are
we getting too close to kind of changing what the
constitution means if we did that, and things like that.
So it was really a productive conversation. But I really
just wanted people to know what a flag means to
(05:25):
you know, it is a piece of cloth, but it
symbolizes so much more than that, especially the American flag and.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What it means.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So you guys, you're you're really great not just at
selling the flags but also giving people all the information
that they need. What can people find at durable flags
dot com?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Oh, well, one can you can certainly find that we
have the strongest flags really in the region that are
based off of our Nebraska winds in Iowa, South Dakota, Kansas.
All this whole area where we don't have mountains breaking
the winds. It just is straight across the plains, and
so we understand that and as a result, how we
(06:03):
reinforce our flags is based off of that knowledge, and
they just last a lot longer than your typical US
flag will.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, and I have one, and you can feel it.
I mean just in the way that the material and
the way that the flag has made you can really
feel the difference. You also have a bunch of flag
poles like you mentioned, and parts for flag poles as
well that people can have, right, so you know, you
can kind of base what people would need on their situation,
whether it's a business, a school, or a house or
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yes, I do a lot of well we do. We
do a lot of commercial flag poles, residential flag poles, parts, maintenance, service, repair,
anything you can think of when it comes to flag poles,
we can do.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, it's awesome. Durable Flags dot Com obviously a big
partner of our afternoon show here and I'm so grateful
to have them be a part of the show because
such a unique business, but one that I think everybody
would have a reason to use no matter what they're
interested in and what they'd like to represent on their flagpole.
It's really an awesome business and here based in the
Omaha area. Tim As always really appreciates you for being
(07:08):
on the show. Can't wait to tell more people about
what durable flags does and thanks so much for your
perspective on this very interesting topic today.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, sure, you bet. I appreciate you
Yesterday. We had an incredible conversation though over a few
hours talking about what essentially was Donald Trump's executive order
suggesting that it should be a one year of jail
time for anyone who burns an American flag and they're
not trying to retire it out of protest, right, that's
a completely different thing. Well, I figure who else to
help us? You know, kind of put a punctuation mark
(00:22):
on this conversation. Then my flag guy himself, Tim Lutherland,
with Durable Flags, joining us on the phone line today. Tim,
how's it going man.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good afternoon. I's going great. How about yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Can't complain? Can't complain? Man? We talk about what you
guys do. You're such an interesting company. First, let's talk
about why you're the flag guy and how you got
into the business of flags with your company, Durable Flags.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sure. Well, it started more than twenty years ago out
in Arlington, Nebraska at my wife's grandfather started it, and
then her dad took that over for a number of years,
and about a year and a half ago her and
I took over the company. So it's just a continuation
(01:04):
of a family business and her dad grew considerably, so
we've just been blessed with the local area and really
this whole region with loyal customers.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, well you gave me a flag. Durable Flags dot Com.
By the way, if you want to see all the
different products that they have. With one of those flag
poles that you put in the side of the house,
it's really cool. It's got to spin air on it
so the flag doesn't get tangled up in itself and
things like that, and the flag is really durable, which
is why you guys call yourselves durable flags. But you know,
(01:42):
I didn't. I never owned an American flag to fly
like that before, so it was a bit of you know,
just like you want to make sure that you're flying
it properly. Do people ask you a lot about what
flag etiquette is and what they should or shouldn't do
with this flag.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oftentimes I'll get a question about the proper size flag
for a flag pole, which is typically it's one fifth
of the height of the pole. So if you have
a thirty foot pole, you know, you might do up
to a six by ten flag, but you can sometimes
(02:18):
go a little bit larger, maybe up to a quarter
of the flagpole size. But that really depends on how
strong that pole is you can put a lot of
drag on it, so you don't want it bending on you.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, that's it's a good point. The idea of what
you know, half staff like today, right Donald Trump saying
with the shooting in Minneapolis and just trying to note
that right and just be respectful of the American flag.
One thing is that you know people will talk about
with protests is like the upside down flag or now
(02:49):
we're you know hearing especially this week about flags being
set on fire. Now it is proper etiquette, correct for
you know, a retired flag or an old flag. That's
the way that you would just bose of that. Correct.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yes, typically you'll have a burning ceremony, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yes, so, but in protest it's a completely different thing.
So you know what would be you know what you
would say to someone as a flag guy yourself about
you know what Donald Trump kind of suggested, and you
know the symbol is and not just for an American flag. Honestly,
every single flag that you have is a symbol for something,
whether it's you know, fandom for a team or a
(03:26):
college or anything like that. You know, when you hear
flags be talked about this kind of what's your opinion
and your emotions on it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Absolutely, yes, the American flag, that's definitely a very strong symbol,
you know, obviously much more than say a sports flag.
But it has a lot of meaning to it. There's
the Constitution that it represents and what that means for
our country and what we as our citizens, citizen free
(03:56):
want to accomplish going forward for our own children. So
when you burn the flag out of out of protests,
it's it's obviously it's a very disrespectful thing to do.
I'm not sure what the statistics are that you know,
prompted President Trump to create that executive order. You know
(04:17):
how pervasive that that issue is with being uh well
they put it like a hate speech kind of or
inciting violence when I was reading through that, So I
don't know what those statistics are that would make it
the point where you felt like we needed to have
that law in place. I do recall when I heard that,
(04:40):
the first thing that came to mind was why, you know,
one of the things that we have right here to
do is is uh, I suppose you can be disrespectful
to the flag if you want, doesn't mean you're not
going to get you know, some people maybe bringing you
out back or something U slapping around a little bit.
I don't know, but you don't having a law that
put Jim jail for it. But I was curious where
(05:01):
that was going.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, same, And we spent I mean, if it
makes you feel better, Tim, we spent three hours trying
to figure that out yesterday. So you know, we sat
here and we had dozens of calls coming in of
people with different opinions about you know, is that are
we getting too close to kind of changing what the
constitution means if we did that, and things like that.
So it was really a productive conversation. But I really
just wanted people to know what a flag means to
(05:25):
you know, it is a piece of cloth, but it
symbolizes so much more than that, especially the American flag and.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What it means.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So you guys, you're you're really great not just at
selling the flags but also giving people all the information
that they need. What can people find at durable flags
dot com?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Oh, well, one can you can certainly find that we
have the strongest flags really in the region that are
based off of our Nebraska winds in Iowa, South Dakota, Kansas.
All this whole area where we don't have mountains breaking
the winds. It just is straight across the plains, and
so we understand that and as a result, how we
(06:03):
reinforce our flags is based off of that knowledge, and
they just last a lot longer than your typical US
flag will.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, and I have one, and you can feel it.
I mean just in the way that the material and
the way that the flag has made you can really
feel the difference. You also have a bunch of flag
poles like you mentioned, and parts for flag poles as
well that people can have, right, so you know, you
can kind of base what people would need on their situation,
whether it's a business, a school, or a house or
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yes, I do a lot of well we do. We
do a lot of commercial flag poles, residential flag poles, parts, maintenance, service, repair,
anything you can think of when it comes to flag poles,
we can do.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, it's awesome. Durable Flags dot Com obviously a big
partner of our afternoon show here and I'm so grateful
to have them be a part of the show because
such a unique business, but one that I think everybody
would have a reason to use no matter what they're
interested in and what they'd like to represent on their flagpole.
It's really an awesome business and here based in the
Omaha area. Tim As always really appreciates you for being
(07:08):
on the show. Can't wait to tell more people about
what durable flags does and thanks so much for your
perspective on this very interesting topic today.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, sure, you bet. I appreciate you
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